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Just out of curiosity are the assistant coaches of teams that fired their head coach still under contract. If they lost their job also I'd much rather have a guy like Greg Knapp from the falcons.
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Garrett has never had a shot at being OC, so how do we know what he brings to the table? We don't! He has been around and around some people who he should have learned from. Sometimes it takes a while for a guy to get his chance. Davidson hasn't wowed me with his offensive scheme either but I would have been alright with him getting a full season too. Who knows, maybe Garrett will come in here and do a fantastic job and we will be wanting him to replace RAC. <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> (Though it does depend upon the talent brought in on the OL side)
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j/c: LMAO..........some of you never fail to amaze me. I especially love the one about Garrett learning under great coaches. Hmmmm........didn't RAC learn under two of the all-time greats? Parcells and Belichick. Yet, you want him fired. <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" /> Am I the only one who saw the irony in this? In defense of Garrett and Mularky........Miami's offense struggled mainly because they have a pathetic offensive line. Sound familiar?
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Now I went to University School (Class of 02') and I'm not impressed.
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didn't RAC learn under two of the all-time greats? Parcells and Belichick. Yet, you want him fired. [color:"white"] The difference is we've had two years of watching RAC, so even though you may not agree with the opinions, there's plenty of evidence to base an opinion on. We can't say the same thing about Garrett. All we can do is speculate why he's under consideration.[/color]
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Well Garrett did one thing that I havent seen mentioned. He helped Harrington to become a better quarterback. I saw more progress in Joey this year than the entire time he was in Detroit. Hell he might think Frye and Anderson are upgrades to what he has worked with in Harrington and Culpepper lol.
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can we just go after an offensive coordinator in the NCAA who is very successful and offer them a spot??
LSU's offensive coordinator maybe?
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Well Garrett did one thing that I havent seen mentioned. He helped Harrington to become a better quarterback. I saw more progress in Joey this year than the entire time he was in Detroit. Hell he might think Frye and Anderson are upgrades to what he has worked with in Harrington and Culpepper lol. I was thinking the same thing. Compared to the past, Joey looked alot better this year. Plus the article did state QB coach slash OC. Could be just for QB coach.
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Mularky being a good guy to learn from is debatable. [color:"white"] Yes......and no, hehe. Mularky is a failed head coach. Check. Mularky isn't loved in Florida. Check. However, what he wants to do in pounding the ball doesn't jive in a city where they still have visions of Dan Marino winning games by himself and throwing for 4000 yards every year. Here in Cleveland, that's exactly what we're looking for, as it's the identity of the entire division. Also, nobody can argue with his schemes in Pittsburgh, and he has a wealth of knowledge that's worth something to someone like Garrett. I'd note that we're not talking about copying Mike's offense, but rather simply knowing that Mularky is someone who's got a ton of knowledge as an OC and has had success at various levels. Besides, do Dolphins fans really HONESTLY think that the Nicktator let Mularky pick and chooose his offense? I sure don't. I've watched two teams the most over the past 5 seasons: Browns and Dolphins. My best bud that I watch ball with every week is a diehard Fish fan, so I know that team nearly as well as I know the Browns. I'd hope that the fans making all the noise about Mularky would have considered that the offense was Nick's as much as it was Mularky's, and that blaming the OC for a pathetic offensive line and two mediocre QB's is about as wise as blaming RAC for a 4-12 record. If Mularky didn't have success at other players under different circumstances, that arguement wouldn't hold much water.[/color] I agree with you on all points. I didn't realize that you knew as much about the Fins as well. I was just trying to pass on some info that I hear down hear. And by the way, I have always enjoyed reading your posts the past few years. <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />
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I don't think Harrington was any better. He was the same Joey as always. Inconsistent as hell. He had good games in Detroit, only to follow that w/two bad ones. He did the same [censored] in Miami. Hell, they benched him for some guy I never even heard of.
I'm not saying this to knock Garrett. I just know that Joey is Joey and will always be Joey.
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Mularky being a good guy to learn from is debatable. [color:"white"] Mularky! Mularky! Mularky! I guess I'm the only one who has problem taking a guy with a name like Mularky seriously. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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I was just trying to pass on some info that I hear down hear. And by the way, I have always enjoyed reading your posts the past few years. [color:"white"] Glad someone gets something out of my rambling rants, hehe. And KEEP passing on info. That's what this is all about. If persons A-Z throw one fact out there, the odds that one of those facts is something I didn't know are about 100% <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> [/color]
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[color:"white"]Harrington is a guy I completely missed on. I remember thinking that he was a match made in heaven for a team running the WCO, since that's what Belotti ran in Oregon.
Joey won't get any better. He is what he is, which is an enigma. He's got all the tools, but can't put four games together. Career backup on his way to another stop is what we're going to be reading from him over the next few years.
Sad part is that he looked like a far superior passer to Culpepper, which is scary. At least Dante has an injury excuse, though the whispers that he was just a long-baller are now shouts.
Anyway, I don't know a thing about Garrett. I think I know he went to Princeton, so that should count for something *L* [/color]
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Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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Who knows....maybe he can.
Or can't.
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So be it...Frankly I don't care if we get Pina Collada as our OC it ain't going to do squat. The problem isn't changing one guy calling the plays.
I'm OK with Davidson at OC...I'm OK if we make a change and Davidson goes back to OL coach.
We're probably going to have an OL overhaul again - so we will not have any cohesion and repeat so it really won't change much.
Just remember Shaffer is the only sure thing we got on the OL coming back and if things go right he won't be coming back at the LT position anyways. The OC new the OC Davidson and he completes his new play book...means diddly.
We need to get the right players in.
Bentley & Fraley back.
Need a RT...need a RG...probably need a LG too Andruzzi is getting more knee work done in the off season don't know how long he will be effective.
Talk about OC is meaningless.
JMHO [/quote] [color:"GOLD"]EO...I agree that the offense has more problems than just the OC but the Browns have not really had a good experienced OC yet. We have had Carthon who definitely had issues and Davidson who is very limited in experience at the OC coaching position. Crennel's experience is on the defensive side of the ball so whomever the Browns find for their OC position, previous success and experience with a NFL style offense are a must. There are limits as to who the Browns can hire due to the fact that lateral moves in the NFL are prohibited. The top OC's in the NFL become candidates to move up to head coaching jobs so that limits the pool of available OCs even more. A couple of questions I do have...could the Browns hire a top OC and make him an Assistant Head Coach? Would such a move meet the NFL requirements for a OC moving up and therefore not be a lateral move? I know we already have Davidson as an assistant head coach but I have not read anything that says there are limits as to how many assistant HCs a team can have. There may be but I'm not aware of any. I guess that becomes another question..lol. The Browns may be limited to hiring an assistant NFL OC (which Garrett is) or turning to the college ranks to find an OC. An experienced OC from a major college program may not be a bad move. I was just reading the bio of Ohio States OC, and he had coached in the pros as a TEs coach for two different teams but returned to the college ranks where he has been with OSU for the last 7 years. Someone with experience in the pros and college football might be a good choice too. [/color]
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As mentioned earlier ( forget who , sorry ) " Hudson Houck " Line coach is who I would love to see us bring in for a chat .. ( As a OL coach ) .. This guy has always been good at getting the most out of the cards ( players ) he has been dealt ! <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />
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[color:"white"]I know Vers went apecrap over him when the Dolphins signed him. I wanted him here as well, but didn't think he was that important or worthy of debate. Well, the Dolphins signed a bunch of iffy players (LJ Freakin' Shelton <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> ) and their line sucked despite Houck. Shelton was so bad they moved him to guard, where he....... **drum roll please**.......still sucked *L* Frankly, I don't know how good a line coach Davidson is. My God, look what he had to work with <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> [/color]
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A few things: I liked Joey coming out of college too. I thought he was going to be a great one. He has all the physcial tools you want in a qb. I was dead wrong about him. I do remember thinking it seemed a bit odd that he had so many off-field interests. Piano playing, acting, magazine articles, etc. I don't know the answer to this one, but perhaps he was never as serious about football as he should have been? <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I really am not bad-mouthing Garrett. Hell, I don't know the first thing about him as a coach. I just thought that if we were going after an OC, we might think a little bigger. Yes, I wanted Houk bad. I think he is the best OL coach in all of football, but you are right..........Miami's OL sucks. I have no answers on this thread. I do have a plan that will reveal some answers, but that ain't for this thread. Although I am not sure if I should share them. LOL.......I get called clueless, negative, and not a Brown's fan when I give my predictions, and then blasted for pointing out the predictions came true. <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> [censored] this!
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What is so 'Great' about this Garrett guy?
He's an ex-Qb that held the clipboard for a very, very long time. I don't think that in itself makes him particularly qualified to be the offensive coordinator of a professional football team.
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perhaps we need a predictions forum where you can argue with folks <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
we may have a good shot at that miami OL coach now that saban went after the $$$
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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let's just have a VERS forum... <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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Sorry Clem, but I plan on living forever. Thanks all the same Now, Toad... That's coming dangerously close to validating those posters who already think you suffer from a "God complex"... (hehehe) still enjoying your "posts from On High," Clemdawg
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I'm still working on my shrine of him. How's yours coming along?
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I don't know about you guys...but the incense and candles are starting to choke me up.....cough, cough... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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pretty well, so far.
I'm having trouble finding the ivory and goat's blood, tho-
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Wait one! Y'mean the Toad ISN"T God after all? And all this time . . . . But, he said . . . . Kidding! Maybe the Toad is an appointed interim deity. For all I know, he is an OC as well. seems like a bunch of 'em end up as candidates. I just want a proven scheme that worx for the Pound on the Pond. Toad, can you make it so. Like in my lifetime? Pulleeez? Da Browns! Be a fan of the future! Hang tough today! <img src="/images/graemlins/azzangel.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/saywhat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" />
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[color:"white"]You guys are killin' me <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> But like alot of churches, forget the shrines and just put money into the plate. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> If God wants some of these Pastors and Reverends to drive Lincoln's, then maybe he wants me to have a new 42" flatscreen so I can see the Browns that much better <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> [/color]
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The funny thing is that you would have to connect that flat screen to SopCast to watch the game...
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