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Every team in the PAC 10 has that schedule...? Huh... Get out of the box DC...
They do? I checked the PAC 10 schedules and NOBODY has to go TO USC, Cal, Oregon and ASU all in the same year.. nobody. And if you happen to BE USC, then you don't have to play USC...... so the only teams that could POSSIBLY play that schedule are the bottom half of the PAC 10.... 
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IMO, you are wrong. No team in the country can play a full PAC 10 schedule and go undefeated. Don't care what you easterners say, cause you just don't know...
 What? I had to look up the dates, but USC lost to Cal on 9/7/03... then they finished '03 without losing a game, they went undefeated in '04, they went undefeated in '05 and lost to Texas in the title game, then they lost again to Oregon on 10/28/06... they went more than 3 YEARS without losing a conference game?... so it's not possible? 
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Maybe if the Big 10 could play 0, pass the football, we'de have somthing to argue about...  Since you threw up only Pac 10 stats why don't you throw up the same stats for ALL the Big 10 teams and we'll compare... Then we'll see who knows what...  Your argument still doesn't explain the rest of OSU's non confernce schdeule and accknowledge the weakness of the bottom half of the Big 10 conference... Most conferences have similar issues. You don't see me on here pimping my college team, ignoring the facts of OSU's schedule and try making statements and comparisons about other conferneces that have nothing to do with OSU's schedule... Admit it, other than USC, OSU's non confernce schedule is a total fricken cake walk... And other than two other quality teams in the Big 10 right now, they have very little to worry about... There are good teams, some average teams and some poor teams in the Big 10 ... Just like every conference... Don't we have the same BS arguement every single year... There will be no winners here on this topic...
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Don't we have the same BS arguement every single year...
Of course we do, that's what makes it fun.... 
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Can your Turtles play themselves?  Did the Beavers and Stanford not beat USC a couple of years ago? So how do those losses figure into your equation? Guess you didn't look hard enough...  Hum... Do any teams in any confernces play all the teams at home in the same year? My "play a full Pac 10 schedule", still stands... No matter how the schedule ends up year to year.
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Yeah besides USC it is deff not a hard schedule. I hate that we play damn Youngstown State, but I see why b/c it's Jim's old stomping ground. Plus we can ask Michigan about playing those kinds of teams. All of the Big10 plays the MAc so nothing can be done there. And in the defense of playing Troy, LSU also plays them this year and both Florida and Georgia played em last year. They have won 8 games the past 2 years. yeah this is still troy but it could be worse 
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Can your Turtles play themselves?
I don't know, I played with myself quite a bit when I was at Maryland.
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Did the Beavers and Stanford not beat USC a couple of years ago? So USC didn't go 3 years without losing a confernce game right? Guess you didn't look hard enough... Hum...
Three calendar years, not three consecutive football seasons, they went from the middle of the '03 season to the middle of the '06 season without losing a regular season game....
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Do any teams in any confernces play all the teams at home in the same year? My "play a full Pac 10 schedule", still stands... No matter how the schedule ends up year to year.
So you are saying that there is no way USC can go undefeated in the PAC 10 this year?
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Good reply...  All teams have tune ups that is just the way it is. I'ts hard to schedule quality regional opponets when there aren't many or they don't want to suit up against you... You don't see me on here denying that OSU is not one of the finest college football programs of all time. Sometimes you just have to call BS, BS... And in like many things here there is a lot of BS on some topics. The Big 10 just isn't so Big right now... Period. It won't stay that way for long.
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Can you say I played with myself on here? Oh, it's the 3 calandar year thing... I see...  Your question is not exactly a soup question now is it?  I have said what I said... I don't believe what I said is what your asking or the true question... Are you guaranteeing that USC will go undefeated in the PAC 10 this season? We are not talking about the calandar year right? 
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Are you guaranteeing that USC will go undefeated in the PAC 10 this season?
No, just stating that it wouldn't be any more difficult to do it in the PAC 10 than it would be in the Big 10... USC could lose to Cal, OSU could lose to Illinois for example.. (and let's be honest, those are the only 2 teams that have a legit shot of going undefeated in their respective conferences).. There is even less of a chance that an ACC team is going to go undefeated and that's not because the conference is so good, that's because the best teams in the ACC haven't seperated themselves from the middle of the ACC... (somebody might surprise me, possibly Clemson or Va Tech, but again this year I don't really expect an ACC team to be in the hunt for a national championship shot down the stretch)....
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Why wouldn't it be more difficult? You don't know and can't prove that it would or will be... Sorry man, you can try as you may...
USC lost to Stanford and the Beavers in the last couple of years so anything can happen any week... The Beavers have been top 25 ranked a few times in the past few years...
The ACC is the ACC... The Pac 10 is the PAC 10 and the Big 10 is...
Just so many of you know... USC has some issues this year... Yes they are one of the deepest most talented teams on the planet... But they have unproven QB/'s... The 0-Line has talent but they are young and newly put together... Unanswered ???'s at WR and RB too. At this point in time they are not as bullet proof as they have been in the past 4 or 5 seasons. So their #2 ranking is inflated IMO... But some one has to be # 2...
Georgia #1... Based on their record in their own division, schedule this year I don't see that lasting very long... OSU #2 I'm not completely sold on that either... QB? Their schedule is the big reason they are ranked where they are... IMO
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Why wouldn't it be more difficult? You don't know and can't prove that it would or will be... Sorry man, you can try as you may...
When did you become such a damn literalist? I'm not trying to PROVE anything..... I know I can't PROVE who is going to win week in/week out in any given conference (or I'd be a millionaire)... and I know I can't PROVE who would win if a team in one conference played another conferences schedule.. I can't PROVE any of it... that's why it's speculation, that's why it's an OPINION... not unlike the whole freakin' rankings system. sheesh... if we're only allowed to talk about things we can prove, this board is going to be an awfully loanly place.
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I take a different tone and tact with different folks here... If you treat or deal with everybody the same you're treating most people incorrectly... IMO. If you'll notice I threw my opinion/s in there too/often... so come on... Let's just agree to disagree and move on, cool? Didn't insinuate that you couldn't do or write anything... Stated my thoughts and opinions... Don't agree with this West coast East coast bias... When one uses the same speak or spin or twist as the other, it needs to be OK... Until it is OK, we'll keep having these talks every year... Until next time...
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I have no problem having this talk every year... what will we talk about next year if not this? We could always talk about whether or not the Browns will successfully defend their super bowl or not...  I don't really have a west coast/east coast bias... I think USC might be the best team, I think Oregon is formidable... I think teams from all over the country are good.. it's just fun to speculate what would happen if they all played each other under similar circumstances....
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Just to make a point....all the big teams need to schedule a game with a lesser school...that is big bucks for that school.
I have no problem with a OSU playing YTSU or the Gators playing the Citadel.
The big guys need a break somewhere and the little guys need the half a milliion or more they get to go get creamed.
The SEC as an example has always had a working relationship with the Southern Conference. The SC needs the money they get from scheduling SEC games. OSU should do the same with the MAC of some of the others.
I would be in favor of factoring strength of schedule throwing out the low school. That way those schools don't run the risk of the big boys eventually eliminating those games.
That would kill many programs.
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OSU #2 I'm not completely sold on that either... QB? Their schedule is the big reason they are ranked where they are... IMO
post of the decade, right here, folks.
their schedule is the biggest reason why they are ranked where they are?
that's laughable.
please don't talk anymore college football, because you haven't the slightest clue about it.
nevermind the fact that a team that lost just 2 games (both of which were lost to teams that made bcs games, one of them being the eventual champion) is returning most of their starters, and are returning 2 players who would have been easy first round picks in the nfl, or the heisman front running halfback who could go for 2,000 yards
you give ohio state no credit, and it's painfully obvious, dude.
oh wait, you're the same guy that said the big 12 was the toughest conference in america, lolz
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