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Also, don't fool yourself...Winslow is cut from the same cloth. Yet you call him a leader and Edwards a punk.




Actually I don't agree at all. Winslow has trouble containing his fire and passion. He gets openly frustrated and he's vented immaturely. But Winslow is not a person who going to say "woe is me" and pull this team into an abyss like Edwards. Winslow's a guy who's going to get in people faces and make them care. He's like a gigantic ball of energy and he's going to will his team forward, adversity be damned.

That's a leader. Crawling into a hole, or breaking team rules, or hanging your teammate out to dry (Brian Russell) is not something that Winslow is going to do.

He's going to lead and put everything he has out on the field.

I respect that greatly.




I get what you're saying. We don't know these people personally so it's really hard to believe one way or the other. You are using deductive reasoning which I think is fine. But, I just don't know if Winslow wouldn't be that guy if things were going bad, and I say that although he is my favorite player on the team. I do agree with many of the things you said about him ... but I'm just speculating based on his play, interviews, etc.

But Winslow is so ultra competitive, I think he would bark if things were bad with no sign of getting any better. Ultra competitive guys also tend to have strong feelings about the FO, staff, and their competency, and if someone like that saw no light at the end of the tunnel, I think they'll turn into a very unhappy camper. Goes with the territory when you're wired that way.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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D... I hear what you're saying... and I think it is easy for most folks to forget that these guys are people too.



I don't play football in front of 70k+ fans, but I do make my living in front of the public... and my job performance is continually subject to review in public forums.

There have been a few off concerts, and I've had my tuckus handed to me each of those times. The first couple times, it hurt- bad. You spend hours and hours preparing for "the big day," and in a couple of paragraphs, the whole newspaper's readership finds out what an underserving hack you really are.

Over time, what makes it tolerable is balance... if you throw down a good performance (and the writer is truly fair and honest each time), you get slurrped in front of the same number of people.

Getting that balance is MY responsibility. If I suck repeatedly, then I should expect to get hammered in the press. If I play well every time, but act a fool in interviews, backstage and at receptions, I should expect some neagativity, as well. Best defense: stay on top of your game, conduct yourself like a gentleman at all times, and never let them see how deeply your're hurt. If your skin isn't thick enough, you find out real fast. I've seen some very, very talented folks who could play circles around me burn out and dump the entire career for something a little less public.

Braylon, to his credit, has learned what to say and what not to say. Back when I was calling him "Brayleon" (my bad), it was because of his talk/production ratio. As soon as the talk died, so did his nickname. New year/clean slate... and we also seemed to see a new player who was much easier to like. I suppose he's always been this kind of guy, but the hard times were showing in his demeanor... and as a professional in a job with many similarities, I viewed this behavior as immature and unprofessional. Didn't mind voicing it, either. He's grown up a bit now...and my attitude about him has changed accordingly.

I also don't mind hearing him now admit to not liking his environs/situation... lends credibility to the things he will say down the road. Honesty counts with me. And as for him regressing if the Browns falter- it's possible, but less likely with each day being another closer to that all-important post-football TV career...

Kid's growing up day by day- and we Browns fans get a ringside seat to see it all happen. Kinda cool, if you ask me.

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btw- I did have a chance to turn the tables once... a few weeks after a particularly scathing concert review. I sometimes fill the role of Narrator for pieces that involve the spoken word. We were doing a piece by Camille Saint-Saens called "Carnival of the Animals." The players were tired of the Ogden Nash script, and asked me to re-write it. One of the movements is entitled "Wild Asses." I saw the music critic in the 3rd row when I walked out on stage, but it was too late- I only brought my script out with me. So with heart in throat, I recited:

In this world, there are "talkers" and "doers."
Translation: "performers" and "spewers."
So while good people play
Others sit back and bray
Like wild asses- or concert reviewers.

Brought the house down. Not surprisinly, the review was quie complimentary- narration and all. Sometimes the best way to handle an anonymous bully is to shine the light directly on him, as you sock him one in the nose.


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You would have to if you were the best receiver in that draft. he didnt go to a great team, but

this is ohiostate michigan

these are the facts. BE has made the single largest single contribution um.

I embrace BE, not so much for what he does on the field, but you cant deny what he does off it.

he has embraced ohio, we should only do the same


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He gets openly frustrated and he's vented immaturely. But Winslow is not a person who going to say "woe is me" and pull this team into an abyss like Edwards. Winslow's a guy who's going to get in people faces and make them care. He's like a gigantic ball of energy and he's going to will his team forward, adversity be damned




Remember when Edwards did that. He was yelling at the O-Line about protecting Charlie...... He got a lot of crap for that. First people thought he was yelling at Frye, but when it turned out he was yelling at the O-Line people said, O he shouldn't do that in a game. He shouldn't embarass those guys in a game.


Are you really saying that Edwards, a guy who has managed to become one of the best at his position in the NFL, is not ultra competitive. You have got to be kidding me.

May be the money isn't the only thing going on in Braylon's head, may be he wants to be liked also. And I don't care what you make, having an entire city ripping on you is demoralizing. Taking that kind of blame is very difficult. Yes, he got a ton of money, yes he has a huge ego, but it still sucks to face that kind of criticism no matter who you are. And I don't know what job you have or what, but have a city want to trade you and that's what you're going to get from a guy.


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Now, I agree with you that many fans take it to a whole other level and jump on every little thing. That's just ridiculous to do.




Really, when it comes right down to it, those are the ones I'm referring to mostly..

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If I can't handle someone being adversarial to me, I shouldn't be an attorney. If I can't handle someone yelling at me, I shouldn't enlist in the military.






Ahh.,,, apples and oranges my friend.. I"m talking about the "SO CALLED" experts that fashion themselves as know it alls and try to foist thier opinions on others by being what they think is 'Cute, Funny or Smart" when in reality, they aren't any of those things..

I'm not talking about peers, associates or bosses.


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Crawling into a hole, or breaking team rules, or hanging your teammate out to dry (Brian Russell) is not something that Winslow is going to do.




IIRC, popping wheelies in a parking lot on a crotch rocket was a violation of his contract and, therefore, team rules.

Winslow and Edwards are cut from the same mold, and to think otherwise is to display a bias. I happen to like them both a lot...but they're both liabilities due to their ego. Both also happen to be exhibiting signs of maturity in recent years...let's hope that continues.

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Braylon also noted during the interview that him being a Michigan guy made it harder to play in Ohio.

This is not a big deal at all. He was being upfront and honest, I'd rather have be forthright than phony.

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