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If we were to draft a QB this year I would stop being a Browns fan.
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If we were to draft a QB this year I would stop being a Browns fan.
Even if we got Matthew Stafford of UGA??  
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If I were Phil Savage....
I would be looking for a new coach...Or job...Maybe both.
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Yes. Yes I would.
Romeo's seemingly lack of concern over this team's play recently (lack of effort, lack of fundamentals, etc.) tells me he already knows he's gone. He'd have to be an idiot to not realize this.
The fact that the organization has not come out with an official statement on Savage's e-mail last week (or maybe they did and I missed it) tells me that maybe Savage is on his way out, too.
At first I wanted a new head coach with Phil remaining here. If dumping/demoting Phil means we can get Cowher then I am now all for it. We need someone who will light a fire under these guys.
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I think you have to take BPA for the Browns needs..and people we got more than I thought..
It's obvious what the defense needs..some hammer LB's..and a big corner and some depth..well we got depth..just make a few starters backups and there's your depth..
We need another WR..and a RB..
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I will say if we could get Sam Bradford, I would take him.
But as you said......you always want to get the best player available, but you do have to temper need into the mix somewhere.
What you don't do is set a needs list and just draft to that...I am taking a linebacker no matter who is available at that position and no matter who else is on the board.
That makes less sense that selecting a Sam Bradford.
That comment isn't so much at you AD...I know you wouldn't draft in that manner....just go about selecting positions.
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I agree, we need a couple impact players... and we have enough needs and will be drafting high enough, that I can't help but feel that we will "need" on the top 2 or 3 best players available.
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Assuming the worst -- losing the next five -- we should be picking in the 4-8 range or so.
There are going to be plenty of BPA's that early in the first round, ones that can/will fill the any of the many holes we have.
Personally, my definition of BPA at this point would NOT include a QB, so I respectfully disagree with BallPeen on taking Sam.
Again, just an opinion, I do not believe the defense is that far away,...they have to play too much pressure ball because our offense cannot sustain anything, let alone score. That does not mean I would not take JL or Jenkins at the "supposed spot" nor would I pass on Beanie. (Bias not intended--but those 3 kids ARE top ten picks.)
That said--another opinion I voiced somewhere else on here--if Joe Thomas' twin brother is there, you consider taking him. The inconsistent status of our offensive line is as big a problem as Edwards' drops.
Just some thought food,....
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And I understand your feeling.....and maybe I wouldn't take him....no doubt you don't keep drafting qbs, or rbs or whatever position year after year.
There has to be some common sense in the process....but in the end.....good players make you better....you have to weigh it all out.
Actually...I would trade down if Braford was there when I drafted.
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I agree, we need a couple impact players... and we have enough needs and will be drafting high enough, that I can't help but feel that we will "need" on the top 2 or 3 best players available.
No doubt....I mean, really...there are only about 2-3 players on this team that we couldn't improve upon.
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I would wait on Tebow,.... 
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no doubt you don't keep drafting qbs, or rbs or whatever position year after year.
And if only you could have sent this dispatch to Matt Millen 8 years ago.
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Don't you think though, that drafting Sam Bradford would kill Quinn's confidence? It would be an odd situation for him, assuming we get rid of DA, he's finally got the reigns of the offense and the confidence of the coaching staff whoever it's going to be.
What I would do would be draft the BPA other than QB, and I know that whoever I pick is going to be starting for us day 1. I don't care if it's a wr or a linemen hopefully he's going to be a stud and an upgrade anywhere would help.
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The point is if you took a player like that, you think he is a clear step above...I think Bradford is....we will see what the "experts" think.
I guess, to be real honest, if I drafted Bradford, I wouldn't care about BQ confidence.
Remember, we are talking hypothetically here...this isn't what I think is going to happen or even what I want to happen.
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While I don't see that much of Bradford and don't doubt his ability, I personally take into consideration the talent surrounding him too. Just for example, you take Krenzel out of that 2002 Ohio State lineup, and he's selling cars--and that's for real.
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While I don't see that much of Bradford and don't doubt his ability, I personally take into consideration the talent surrounding him too. Just for example, you take Krenzel out of that 2002 Ohio State lineup, and he's selling cars--and that's for real.
Wasnt Krenzel the really smart QB that was a bionuclearer technician or something like that? I get your point but Krenzel would have a nice job without football, unless that was another OSU QB Im thinking of. 
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Actually it was molecular genetics, but close enough. I was actually thinking the same thing as you when I read that post.
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Krenzel isn't a good comparison...though a good one to get people on this board on your side. 
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No, maybe not in terms of ability, but in terms of having the crew around him,... I care less about getting people on my side,... Has an Oklahoma or Ohio State QB ever really "succeeded" as prototypical in the NFL,....? I'm not counter-arguing; I'm just not going to waste a pick on a QB when other needs are seemingly more important. (And BTW, Oklahoma's defense, while having done a good job vs. TT, has NOT seen an offense like Florida's; hence we aren't going see much of Sam in the NC game.)
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I'm definitely not on board with taking a QB.
Gentlemen, are we allready giving up on Quinn after 3 starts? 
Hey, I have questions about his accuracy, but having questions and doubting are two very different critters. I also have a question about his ego, but that's different than believing it's a problem. Simply put, it's WAY too early to pass judgement. We've got two unfinished QB's. We don't need a 3rd when we have so many other holes.
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Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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I guess if we took Bradford he'd be the starter, I just hope that doesn't happen.
I don't think he's a big enough step above to take, we could a player at any other position and it would be a bigger upgrade than a QB. That's just my thinking.
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We need to just continue building around the QB position; even if Quinn is not the answer.
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And I understand your feeling.....and maybe I wouldn't take him....no doubt you don't keep drafting qbs, or rbs or whatever position year after year.
There has to be some common sense in the process....but in the end.....good players make you better....you have to weigh it all out.
Actually...I would trade down if Braford was there when I drafted.
Unless of course you are Detroit looking at WR's
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