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j/c If praying gives Brady confidence on the field then I'm all for it. I couldn't care less what he does on the sidelines if it helps his game. He could dance with strippers on the sidelines for all I care, if it helps him win games.
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I always wear my rope chain with a simple, plain gold cross. The chain's not too long so the cross is almost always visible. I wear it mostly to show that it's ok to be of faith. I don't preach.
Hopefully BQ does what he does with the purist of intentions.
Do the players still huddle after games for prayer? Just curious. I can't remember the last time I saw that.
Good point,...good question. Do they still do it,...? or is there NO media coverage of it anymore, since it would tend to swing right,.... 
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I am quite sure Brady could quietly be sitting on the bench with his thoughts and beliefs without the national display.
He was on the sidelines, on one knee, with his head bowed... and a quick sign of the cross... he wasn't out in the middle of the field offering up burnt offerings or performing animal sacrifice or trying to get the whole team to join him in singing Amazing Grace.. he was essentially doing exactly what you said he SHOULD be doing (quietly exercising his beliefs on the sidelines).. the only problem is, the camera happened to catch him doing it, which is beyond his control.
So, let me get this right...
If BQ was Muslim, it would be ok for him to lay out his mat, face Mecca and get on his hands and knees perform his (whatever they call they bowing motion) chanting whatever it is those people chant on the sideline?
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Do the players still huddle after games for prayer?
I'm not sure about the professional games but at the college level I have seen it often.
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If BQ was Muslim, it would be ok for him to lay out his mat, face Mecca and get on his hands and knees perform his (whatever they call they bowing motion) chanting whatever it is those people chant on the sideline?
Yes it would. It's called freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. It really sad how some people get so upset or offended because people want to pray, or give props to the big guy. 
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I always wear my rope chain with a simple, plain gold cross. The chain's not too long so the cross is almost always visible. I wear it mostly to show that it's ok to be of faith. I don't preach.
My wedding ring has a diamond cross in the middle of it. I get comments all the time, but I wear it to remind myself of my marriage, and Jesus. Just a reminder to behave myself, and be thankful for both. 
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if it helps his game. He could dance with strippers on the sidelines for all I care, if it helps him win games.
For some strange reason Eve, I have an overwhelming feeling that would be FAR MORE of a distraction than help.
But hey! Who knows?

And Navy...............YES! We have freedom of religion in this country. He can pray to whoever he wants to no matter the faith.
Or are you still under the impression that the Muslim faith is evil? There are extremists in everything. Look at the KKK and White Supremacists. Does that mean all Christians are evil too just because certain Christians abuse what Jesus and God truely believe?
Are you really so anti-religious that you feel so offended when others pray?

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If BQ was Muslim, it would be ok for him to lay out his mat, face Mecca and get on his hands and knees perform his (whatever they call they bowing motion) chanting whatever it is those people chant on the sideline?
Well, the whole laying out the mat and bowing and chanting would obviously be a bit more distracting to others than simply taking a knee and saying what he has to say quietly... but in the grand scheme of things, yea, it would be ok.
And to answer whoever asked the other question about post game prayer.. yes, players from both teams still huddle up for prayer after the game.. coaches and others also participate. Kurt Warner actually cut off the woman in her post game interview the other day because they were starting to pray... I was cool with that too. 
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I agree that God doesnt care which team wins, but as far as saying he has nothing to do with Quinn throwing TDs, this is not quite true. If Quinn were not alive, he could not throw tds, and Quinn is alive because God gave him another day. The fact that Quinn is healthy and did not get hurt in the Broncos game, or seriously hurt in this game, could be that God is watching out for him. The ability to play football that Quinn has is a combination of God given talent and hard work on the part of Quinn. The ability to learn how to play football and to learn the mental aspects of the game is due to the fact that God created Quinn with natural abilities, though Quinn needed to do what was necessary to tap into them and use them. Every skill and natural ability, ( as well as every new day we are given ) are given to us by God, and Christians believe in using what God gives us not only to make money and suceed personally, but to give God the glory. I respect Quinn for recognizing his dependance on God, because without God, we can do nothing. That even includes those who don't believe in Him or who reject Him. Even when we reject Him, He still sends His rain ( and earthly blessings) on everyone, both the faithful and those without faith. An early Happy Holidays to al. 
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3) I never said I didn't believe in god...I just tend to believe in one that actually likes me.
If only you knew how much God, ( and I mean the God of the Bible) loves you...
Martin Luther, one of the great reformers, once complained about God being a vengeful, cruel, mercilous God, ( and this was when he was a catholic priest), but when he read the Bible, particularly the book of Romans, he met the true God. The reason why many people think God is cruel and mean is because they listen to what other people say about Him, instead of listening to God Himself. He is not silent.
Just because God is Just, doesnt mean that He's cruel, and just because He says certain actions are wrong doesnt mean he's hateful. I tell my daughters that drug abuse and lying is wrong because I love them, ( just an analogy)
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People think God is mean for 2 reasons, 1 being that He has rules and 2 sometimes bad things happen to good people... Anybody that can get their head around those two issues as they relate to God, will see that He is not a spiteful, vengeful God...
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Good points.
1. The fact that God has rules should be easy to understand, seeing everybody has rules, and rules apply to everything in everyday life.
Imagine driving in a city with no traffic laws. Imagine watching a football, or any sports game with no rules. etc...
2. The fact that bad things happen to good people, ( and good things happen to bad people) is harder to explain. I disagree with a lot of what Kant says, but I like the way he uses this paradoxical fact to actually prove the existence of life after death. Here is a partial summary of it.
a. There is a moral law that says that people who do good will be rewarded, and people who do evil will be punished, and that the rewards and punishments are just. ( almost everyone believes this is true, or at least should be)
b. The ones who do good are not always rewarded in their lifetime, and the ones who do evil are not always punished in this lifetime.
c. Therefore there must be life after death, where those who do good are rewarded and those who do evil are punished, or else morality does not make sense.
It is a terrible thing that bad things happen to good people, but God does not cause this. Why does He allow it? Because if God went around absolutely controlling everything that happens in our lives, we would be robots, and our lives would merely be that of actors acting out a script written in advance by God. That would not be life at all.
Bad things happen to good people because we live in a fallen world, and there are many evil people in the world. God could wipe out the evil people, but He does not because He knows that many of those evil people will change for the better, ( with His help, of course)
Bad things do happen to good people, but when you compare the suffering that we may go through in this life to the joy we can have forever, ( life after death), they cannot even be compared.
Sometimes we have to suffer in order for good things to happen, the best example being Jesus Himself.
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j/c If praying gives Brady confidence on the field then I'm all for it. I couldn't care less what he does on the sidelines if it helps his game. He could dance with strippers on the sidelines for all I care, if it helps him win games.
You would probably like that. Sorry had to do it.
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Gosh, hate to mention it, but after the OSU - Michigan game, the t.v. camera caught a bunch of OSU players kneeling, on the field, praying.
How DARE they force their religion on others? (this question was sarcasm, by the way)
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Yup. I saw that. And some of the players were wearing biblical passages on their under eye darkening stickers. GM - Sounds like a nice wedding band. I'd love to see it. (just don't ask me to kiss it) 
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