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Bill Livingston: Browns coach Romeo Crennel has made it impossible to defend him
by Bill Livingston/Plain Dealer Columnist
Monday November 24, 2008, 9:31 PM
Romeo Crennel has made it impossible to defend him, even for those who admire his personal character and his loyalty to his players.

He started by making terrible decisions in the opener, the Dallas game, with that Belichickian field goal with 10 minutes to play to cut the deficit to a still-three-scores-needed 18 points.

He seemed like he would never deviate from the dead-end road. He stuck with Derek Anderson when it became apparent that, as was once said of a journeyman Indians catcher named Andy Allanson, "his future is in his past."

Then Crennel abruptly switched to virtual rookie Brady Quinn, who got two games, plus two interceptions Sunday, before the coach hooked him for Anderson. This was done quicker than you could say "double standard." On the second interception, Braylon Edwards didn't fight for the ball, big and lanky as he is. (How many believe he would have just dropped it if he had?)

The twists and turns are part of the perverse intrigue of the Browns. They are extravagantly inept. Each week brings a different flaw.

As if on cue, Crennel on Monday said Quinn is still the starting quarterback. But since the rest of the season is devoted to finding out what Quinn can do, why bench him at all? Mistakes are part of Quinn's growth process.

Moreover, Anderson was himself benched three weeks ago after 1½ years of not making the trustiest decisions. Anderson's self-confidence is starting to recall Humpty Dumpty's shell after he fell off the wall.

So the latest move further muddled a disorganized franchise. Too many players have simply played for too long without being held accountable for drops (Edwards), hot-headed penalties (Kellen Winslow) and failure to exert veteran leadership (Willie McGinest could have joined Jamal Lewis in decrying the lack of effort). Crennel must take the hit on that.

When Crennel said he didn't know how to fix these things, it was like Chris Palmer's "runaway train" remark. Cue the traveling music. A coach hunt is imminent.

Still, many of us admire Crennel for never ducking either questions or responsibility. The same cannot be said for his bosses.

Take Phil Savage, wherever he might be. Punxsutawney Phil might pop his head out of his burrow now and then, but his presence lately consists of a profane text message from the Fellowship of Christian Athletes member to a heckling fan; a 29-second press room monologue about Winslow's staph infection; and a radio interview at the height of the Winslow controversy when, his voice rising to almost a falsetto register, Savage thanked more than a dozen people who help the Browns win, including secretaries and the head groundskeeper.

Yet Savage let Crennel face the music on the text message/Winslow controversies. Unconscionable.

It's hard to see Savage and his ego welcoming as Crennel's replacement a proven head coach like Bill Cowher. So Savage goes, too, unless the new coach trusts the same personnel guru who built this paper tiger.

Cowher would be the biggest savior since generalissimo Butch Davis, only with a little firmer grip on the teeny-tiny matter of who can play and who can't in the NFL these days. It would be a repeat move. It would also be the best, and maybe the only, hope.




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by Mary Kay Cabot/Plain Dealer Reporter
Monday November 24, 2008, 7:29 PM

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Browns coach Romeo Crennel (left) and General Manager Phil Savage (right) face the possibility of losing their respective jobs due to the Browns' performance this season.Browns coach Romeo Crennel and General Manager Phil Savage both could be on the hot seat, but changes probably won't be made until after the season, a source close to the situation said.
Both could lose their jobs -- or both could keep them. Crennel could go, and Savage could stay -- or vice versa. Their seats both got hotter with Sunday's 16-6 loss to the Texans for a 1-5 mark at home, but nothing has been written in stone. Some of it will depend on how the team plays in the final five games, three of which are on the road.

The team has been unhappy with Crennel, who is 24-35 in his fourth season, including 0-7 against the Steelers and 2-5 against the Bengals. He has the same regular-season record Butch Davis had when he resigned with five games left in the 2004 season.

Specifically, the club has been disillusioned with Crennel's clock management, play-calling and under-use of personnel such as running back Jerome Harrison. On the other hand, the team knows the players love playing for Crennel.

Asked Monday if he thought he'd be fired, Crennel said: "I don't worry about it. I can't control it. The thing I can control is whether we win or lose. If we win, that improves my chances. If we don't, then that hurts my chances."

Browns owner Randy Lerner has declined to comment on the state of his team and two top men, but Crennel said Monday that he's been in contact with him.

"I'm telling him that this team hasn't lived up to expectations, and we're not as consistent as we need to be," said Crennel. "I told him we were going to keep fighting, and we're going to try to win a game."

Lerner's response?

"He's saying he appreciates that attitude," said Crennel. "He knows that there are no guarantees in this business and every game is a different game, and you have to line up and play it."

As for Savage, the Browns have been happy for the most part with his ability to draft and sign quality players, but unhappy with things such as the profane e-mail to the fan last week and the handling of the situation with tight end Kellen Winslow.

If the Browns hire a new coach, he might want final say in personnel matters. If that's the case, Savage probably would either have to relinquish that or find a new job. The Browns haven't made any overtures to former Steelers coach Bill Cowher, also a former Browns player and assistant, but if they could lure him out of the CBS analyst chair and back onto the field, he undoubtedly would want final say and probably his own right-hand personnel man.

Problem is, Cowher, who owns a 161-99-1 record -- including the playoffs -- and has a Super Bowl ring, will be wooed by several other teams, including possibly Kansas City, Detroit, and Philadelphia.

"I don't anticipate [coaching], to be honest," Cowher said on CBS on Sunday. "I'm really very, very heavily leaning into not going back to coaching."

If the Browns keep Savage and allow him to help hire a new coach, he could retain his current post. But there's growing sentiment the GM role might be too much for him.

If the Browns clean house, Lerner will owe millions of dollars in salaries to his top men. Crennel, Savage and offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski all signed extensions last season through 2011. Crennel and Chudzinski alone would be owed an estimated $20 million over the next three seasons.

Crennel wasn't comforted by the fact his players don't blame him.

"That means they're incorrect because I'm the head coach and the buck stops at my desk," he said. "It's my charge. If we don't win games, it's on me."

The pressroom was abuzz Monday morning when Crennel was more than 20 minutes late for his press conference, a first.

But he explained that his meeting with his assistants ran long.

"We're trying to figure out what we can do to get our players to play better," he said. "Sometimes when it's going bad, it's bad. That was evident when one of the most dependable guys I have on this team, Phil Dawson, misses a field goal. As I look at this team, I tell them, 'You need to play perfect for us to be able to win.' But we're not perfect. So we [can't] shoot ourselves in the foot."

Special-teams star Josh Cribbs echoed the sentiments of most of the players, who supported Crennel.

"For the coach to have to take the fall for an organization so big is, in my opinion, wrong," said Cribbs. "People are already counting Romeo out, but we can't dwell on that. We have to be professionals and play the next game."

Defensive end Shaun Smith admitted that the Cowher chants during the game were somewhat of a distraction.

"All the fans saying, 'Get rid of him,' I wish they could walk in [Crennel's] shoes and understand everything that's really going on and the severity of everything, because it's not his fault," said Smith.





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Sunday November 23, 2008, 7:40 PM
Brady Quinn's short leash was the decision of a coach on an even shorter one.

This was the game in general and benching Quinn the game decision in particular that dooms Romeo Crennel to follow in the faint footsteps of Chris Palmer and Butch Davis.

A half-empty stadium in the fourth quarter? Check.

Players questioning commitments so flimsy they didn't last from one series to the next? Yep.

The "runaway train" reference of the Palmer years? Crennel didn't say it in those exact words. More telling yet, he didn't really need to.



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Romeo Crennel's urgent encouragement to his defense didn't stop Houston from dominating on offense throughout Sunday's game. Afterward, Crennel admitted he didn't have a grasp on whether the team would be ready from week to week.The carnage was on the scoreboard in a 16-6 loss to a Texans team that had been road kill everywhere else it traveled this season. The evidence bounced off the walls in locker room, where you expect to hear it at 4-7. But rather than squelch it, an unwitting coach admitted he doesn't know what to expect week to week in such key categories as effort and execution.
"If I knew the answer I'd definitely get it fixed," said Crennel, who, by rote, promised the Browns would stick together. Comforting, that.

The ho-hum, seen-it-before nature of another inexplicable loss at home is, in fact, what will cost Crennel his job. No one who knows him delights in that. And those who don't and have put their desires in writing -- a "Cowher09.com" banner was conspicuous in the wide open spaces of the second deck Sunday -- shouldn't kid themselves that a change will suddenly restore the organization to the prideful days of Paul Brown.

The problems here reach to higher offices than Crennel's. They go up the organizational ladder to where a miscast GM sits at the right hand of a reluctant owner. Quarterback Indecision '08 falls in lock step with other obvious mishaps.

Other than that, move along, folks. There's no dysfunction to see here.

The head coach is the one who directly affects 45 other people every Sunday, and these lackluster performances by Crennel's team condemn him in the end. Sage Rosenfels as Joe Montana? The only thing more damning than that is Kevin Walter as Jerry Rice.

The difference between Sunday and the Baltimore-Denver double barrel of gloom and doom is that Crennel lost the courage of his own convictions regarding his quarterbacks. Or he never really had any.

Did he think Quinn, who threw two interceptions, would never make a rookie mistake? What was it about Derek Anderson's work here over two seasons that suggested he could "spark" an offense out of the bullpen?

After muddying the conversation with a reference to Quinn's slightly fractured fingertip, Crennel said he made the switch in part because of Quinn's poor decisions and with the possibility of an Anderson "spark" in mind.

Quinn was understandably surprised. But he wasn't the only one.

"Well, yeah, being that he took all the snaps in practice all week and Derek didn't get any," said Jamal Lewis, who found that and so much more -- including only getting 10 carries -- confusing.

Anderson is a rhythm passer whose first quarters have more often than not been frigid affairs even in the warmest of temperatures. In a relief role, that's not exactly going to bring a sense of calm and purpose to a huddle.

All that's left now is the sense that the head coach lost more than a game Sunday.







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I've been in favor of letting Romeo ride out the season and canning him the day after it ends. I was also hoping for Cowher as a replacement, and somehow convincing him to work with Savage and not do the double duty. My take on things was that we have talent (due to Savage) and lacked coaching, someone to light a fire under these guys.

That all changed Sunday. Romeo needs to go, yesterday. And if Savage has to take a reduced role, or a ticket out of town, in order to bring in the right kind of coach, then so be it. Not that it matters, but I am on board with it now.

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My opinon after yesterday the writting is on the wall, Maybe I missed it, but with all the heat RAC is taking, Phil or Randy did not come out and say anything, nothing backing RAC and to me that says everything.

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i've said in the past..savage is not a very good GM..i believe wholesale changes are coming. I also believe we will end up with established FO people this time. Savage is a scout..nothing more. Crennel a DC..nothing more..They are both good at their trade, but aren't ready nor will they ever be, for the responsibilities they currently have.


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even for those who admire his personal character and his loyalty to his players.


I will always admire these traits in him. As I do his work ethic, his willingness to take the heat, and many other attributes. In many ways, he has allot of the characteristics anyone would want to have in a coach....and so it can be puzzling to see this team stuggle so. I want to support Romeo...but I really can't....I think he has lost this team and I don't have the confidence that he can regain it.

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Special-teams star Josh Cribbs echoed the sentiments of most of the players, who supported Crennel.

"For the coach to have to take the fall for an organization so big is, in my opinion, wrong," said Cribbs. "People are already counting Romeo out, but we can't dwell on that. We have to be professionals and play the next game."

Defensive end Shaun Smith admitted that the Cowher chants during the game were somewhat of a distraction.

"All the fans saying, 'Get rid of him,' I wish they could walk in [Crennel's] shoes and understand everything that's really going on and the severity of everything, because it's not his fault," said Smith.



OK these statements lead me to believe that the players KNOW what the problem is....well if the problem is known...THEN FIX IT!!! Because whether they want it or not, whether they feel it is fair or not...Romeo WILL take the hit on this if the continue to play the way they have.


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Crennel said: "I don't worry about it. I can't control it. The thing I can control is whether we win or lose.




I beg to differ.


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I'm going to tell you guys what the problem really is..it's a combo of all the the things we have talked about save one that hasn't been discussed much..
For those who watch sports a lot and are quick to notice trends..whenever a team wins a championship, I watch how that team plays the next season..too many times that team sleepwalks through the season..inconsistancy..injuries...no emotions..lethargic..it's like they can't get up enough to play teams , who are ready to dust them off..

I think thats what happened to the Browns..even though they didn't win anything.
They thought they could roll into this season and feed off of that 10-6 record they had..

Sure they didn't win anything and were bounced out at the end of the year but they also sent 5 players to the Pro -Bowl..

Notice all our pro-bowlers ARE STRUGGLING this year??
Winslow/Edwards/DA(well he was going to struggle anyway)Thomas/Cribbs..

Sure factor in injuries but this is what I feel is wrong..
And even though Rac is probably gone he mentioned on at least two occasions that the Browns could not ride off of last years success into this season..

This is from Rac's mouth:
"A lot of times you just don't know what you're going to get," Crennel said of his team. "How hard they're going to try, how hard they're going to execute and if they're going to do the right things.

"If I knew the answer, I would definitely get it fixed."


Since he can't put a finger on it...it's more internal than external..and I sumise it's the players head...they are sleepwalking ..because they can't handle the success they had last year.





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As I've said before, I like RAC a lot. He is a stand up guy and really has all the personality traits I'd want in a coach.

The problem is that not every coach is cut out to take a team to the highest level. I think RAC reached his pinnacle last year. We probably would have been ok this year if we didn't have the injuries and the other problems.

Last year, we were so lucky in that we had so few injuries and so few other problems. Any problems we did have were easily overshadowed by the success.

This year, everything came crashing down. A good head coach battles that adversity and succeeds anyway. RAC has battled the adversity, but we see the results.


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..because they can't handle the success they had last year.




I believe this to be true.

I also believe it's the coaches job to handle that.

And RAC isn't doing it.

The results are the results. Not much else needs to be said.

The only question is whether or not Savage gets a bus ticket out of town too, and I am torn on this although I am not the biggest Savage fan. That's the million dollar question.


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Adios RAC.

Been fun.

Now maybe we can find a head coach that has been a head coach before. What a novel idea. I'm tired of this team being the training grounds for future head coaches.


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On the other hand, the team knows the players love playing for Crennel.





Of course they do. Many of them aren't held accountable for weak play.

Also, if Crennell doesn't know how to fix what's wrong, then someone who does should be brought in.


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Could you give me a list of those "many", please. What you are claiming is in direct contradiction on what is actually going on in Berea, so I'd like to see the list of those that haven't been held accountable.

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I still stand by my statement after week 1. Going for that field goal is the kind of foolish decision that can destroy a teams confidence and ruin a year.

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I still stand by my statement after week 1. Going for that field goal is the kind of foolish decision that can destroy a teams confidence and ruin a year.




I was hoping it wouldn't, but it was, and did become retrospectively a part of the answer/problem.

On to the solution,...I heard a name yesterday I hadn't seen mentioned,....anybody up for some Nick Saban ?? Realizing that projectile hijacks the thread somewhat, I'll also post the thought in the "Next Coach" thread,....

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It's hard to read articles like this because while it's clear the writing is on the wall for Romeo, I can't help but feel for him. He's clearly a great guy with strong character and it's obvious the players really care about him. The problem is that for whatever reason, that respect they have for Romeo simply never translates to the field and they need to realize that regardless of whose fault the bad production is, Romeo is the man in charge of making it all work, he's made a lot of mistakes, and he's going to take the fall.

In the end, that's what it's going to come down to... it doesn't matter if players enjoy things and WANT to play for a coach if they don't actually do it.


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You are SERIOUSLY stating that one play can ruin an entire season. Ummmm, ok, one play doesn't win or lose a game, but it can ruin an entire season.

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He should take the fall as the battlefield commander,...I liken Savage to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and Randy as SecDef.

Those guys fire people all the time,....

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Now maybe we can find a head coach that has been a head coach before. What a novel idea. I'm tired of this team being the training grounds for future head coaches.




i'm sure i sound like a broken record, but so do people that put such ridiculous statements on the board.

I want a leader for our team...I do not care if that leader happened to be a head coach before. If you want a guy who has been HC before, I hear Joe Bugel is available.

Teams with the most success lately have not been the retreads. They have been first time head coaches who are willing to look at things differently and explore the possibilities of their roster.

Tomlin, Mike Smith, Harbaugh, Sparano...and the list goes on.

I would love to get our Tony Dungy (very good HC that was wrongfully tossed aside by another team), but the odds of that are low because it just doesn't happen very often.


I don't care if our next HC has been a NFL HC before...I just care that he can turn our team into consistent winners.


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Nick Saban loves Cleveland,...and he was the DC before,...plus, he would probably jump in a micro-second.

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Crennel said: "I don't worry about it. I can't control it. The thing I can control is whether we win or lose.




I beg to differ.



I bet he wishes he could take that little gem back.

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I believe it can. I saw a team driving down the field playing with confidence and they wanted to go for it, they wanted a chance to win and their head coach surrendered. The entire offense left the field with their head down and the D laid down.

A team loses confidence in their HC to make the right decision and its over.

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I see a guy like Braylon Edwards not lose one ounce of playing time when it's obvious that he doesn't go all out on every play. Even if he went all out, his many drops should warrant a reduction in playing time if for no other reason than to make him wake up and realize he's not indispensible.

I saw Winslow fined for speaking out about the team, but the same thing didn't happen to Lewis or Cribbs when they called out the team.

I saw a starting QB make poor decision after poor decision continue to play, while a young QB gets pulled after 2 1/2 games. (Okay, I'll give you that Quinn had to be accountable on that one. Too bad the other guy didn't)

There's a few. So you tell me, Coach, what's being done in Berea that's in contradiction to this? I hope it's more than guys are being spoken to.


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"If I knew the answer, I would definitely get it fixed."




Nuff said...why hes still our HC baffles me actually, usually I wouldnt want the HC gone midseason...but it would allow a full blown coaching search to start now.

The other reason? THERE IS NO WAY ANYBODY BUT WILLIE IN THAT LOCKER ROOM HAS ONE OUNCE OF CONFIDENCE IN RAC OR HIS POSSE.

So why is he here, the locker room saw his double standard with the QB situation, his stupid in game decisions and then his quotes about not knowing what to do to fix it.

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I think Romeo should get the boot after the season.

I'd like to defend Savage. While he goofed up the Winslow staph infection thing and emailgate I think overall he has done a good job of bringing in talent and trying to fill holes on our roster. You can argue that some of the players he brought in are busts or haven't been coached well. He's missed on some draft picks and some of his free agents haven't panned out due to injury. But he has brought in strong building blocks via draft and free agency and he isn't afraid to take a gamble. Edwards was great last year. Anderson surprised a lot of people last year, he is a quality backup/starter with some trade value. Joe Thomas is a stud who will be the cornerstone of our offensive line for many years (barring injury). Quinn could be a franchise quarterback. Shaun Rogers is a stud. I could go on and on about the players he has hit on or seems to be good picks or free agency signings. But if we can keep Savage and bring in a solid head coach like Cowher I think we can win next year and years to come with a lot of the talent that we already have on our roster. Everyone talks about rebuilding and I don't think that is the case. The cupboard is not bare here like it has been in the past.

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I keep seeing some people alluding to this as a Savage screw up. What exactly did he screw up there?

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"This is from Rac's mouth:
"A lot of times you just don't know what you're going to get," Crennel said of his team. "How hard they're going to try, how hard they're going to execute and if they're going to do the right things.

"If I knew the answer, I would definitely get it fixed."

I've been a RAC fan from the get go...but then I'm a complete Homer and will give anyone rope.

But here in lies the exact problem with RAC and Why I don't think he'll be around long (surprised he's here right now). What he describes above is the exact FABRIC of a HEAD COACH. He has had the benefit of building this team from Scratch.

This is HIS TEAM, he didn't inherit it. HIS first priority is to know how this team functions...Eats, Sleeps, Fart...everything. He has to have a pulse on this team.

And the fact that HE DOES NOT, by his own discord tells me. As lovable and Knowledgeable as RAC is. He cannot be a HC if he does not KNOW, FEEL, UNDERSTAND the very Fabric of - HIS TEAM!!!!

If you've ever coached. You know what makes your team tick. You know when to ride them. When to pat them on the back. When to break them down.
When to chew them out. When to have a vein popping spit em conversation with them....

For RAC to say what he just said there. He's lost. He don't have it. I love the guy as obviously his players do as well. But something is missing there.

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I'm not sure exactly but I think the way the situation got handled people are blaming Savage because he is the General Manager.

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His rant to the media was seen as childish and immature. The text messages telling Winslow to not reveal his illness was inexcuseable. This has not been a good month for Phil Savage. His rep throughout the league has taken a huge hit.

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I keep seeing some people alluding to this as a Savage screw up. What exactly did he screw up there?




He didn't soothe Winslow's huge ego.


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THAT's his screw up? Sounds like people with sour grapes trying to discredit Savage with anything possible. Sorry, that's a load of bull.

The only one who deserves blame for that mess was Winslow himself.

Those of you who want Savage gone......how about sticking to real issues.

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It is what it is..with Winslow I see a player on the field who lays it all on the line. He gives 100% effort every time he is on the field. He may have a huge ego but he doesn't quit when he is on the field.

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It is what it is..with Winslow I see a player on the field who lays it all on the line. He gives 100% effort every time he is on the field. He may have a huge ego but he doesn't quit when he is on the field.




Nope...he gives 100% effort with 0% brain activity. You can have guys talented and trying hard, but he's football stupid.

I would trade Winslow right now. Get rid of his stupid penalties and chronic exploding knee.


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I see a guy like Braylon Edwards not lose one ounce of playing time when it's obvious that he doesn't go all out on every play. Even if he went all out, his many drops should warrant a reduction in playing time if for no other reason than to make him wake up and realize he's not indispensible.




This is what kills me the most. It seems like the more Braylon drops the ball, the more looks he gets. I understand that we don't have any legitimate option to use to bench him, but we need to do it anyway, even if just for one game.

I know personally, there have been some times at work where I'd try to do something and it just wasn't happening. I didn't know why, but I couldn't make any legitimate progress. The thing is, as I kept doing it, nothing would improve and if anything, I'd do even worse than I was before. Only when I took a step back, let it go for a while and started fresh did I resume producing at the same level.

I think Braylon needs that exact same experience (and a sports psychologist to boot). One game or some quarters on the bench used sparingly where he can try to get his mind refocused instead of playing almost every down in every game and pressing constantly without focus. He actually has fantastic hands... his drops are all mental. It's clear giving him more looks isn't helping, so why Romeo doesn't send him to the bench is baffling. In the end, it could be good for both him and the team.

It's decisions like that, the whole quarterback debacle, Harrison's playing time, etc. that have really compounded my frustration this year. It's one thing to have your team play poorly, it's another thing to watch your coach sit on his hands and refuse to try something new, even though it's clear what we're trying right now is failing miserably.


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His rant to the media was seen as childish and immature. The text messages telling Winslow to not reveal his illness was inexcuseable. This has not been a good month for Phil Savage. His rep throughout the league has taken a huge hit.




I only ever read that a Browns official sent the text message, not that Savage did. Did I miss something?


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You're entitled to your opinion. I disagree about the 0% brain activity. Yeah he's allowed his emotions to interfere and has gotten some penalties but he's tough and plays hurt.

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This is HIS TEAM, he didn't inherit it. HIS first priority is to know how this team functions...Eats, Sleeps, Fart...everything. He has to have a pulse on this team.

And the fact that HE DOES NOT, by his own discord tells me. As lovable and Knowledgeable as RAC is. He cannot be a HC if he does not KNOW, FEEL, UNDERSTAND the very Fabric of - HIS TEAM!!!!


While I agree with that, I still think the reason he doesn't is because it's internal with the players..he actually had his finger on it after the first two games when he spoke about them still going off on 07..so he knew then..he just needed to remember nothing has changed ..it's still why they are playing so crappy and lifeless..

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In rare interview, Lerner says he's committed to having winning franchise
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Updated: November 25, 2008, 12:21 PM ET

BEREA, Ohio -- Cleveland Browns owner Randy Lerner said Tuesday he will wait until after the season before deciding on the future of coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Phil Savage.

The reclusive Lerner gave a rare interview Monday and addressed a wide-range of topics. But he steered clear of questions about Crennel or Savage.

The two are under fire with the Browns at 4-7 and out of the playoff picture one year after winning 10 games and sending six players to the Pro Bowl.

Lerner also said he has no plans to sell the franchise he inherited following his father's death in 2002.

The 46-year-old described Sunday's home loss to Houston as "sickening" and says his message to Browns fans was that he is deeply committed to winning.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3725743

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I still stand by my statement after week 1. Going for that field goal is the kind of foolish decision that can destroy a teams confidence and ruin a year.




That's weak man. If the players confidence is that fragile they are in the wrong business. It was a controversial decision but to say that set the stage for this season is a bailout. We are talking about professionals here right?




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plus, he would probably jump in a micro-second.




As long as we pay him 15 mil a season. Then he will leave for someone willing to pay 20 mil.




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His rant to the media was seen as childish and immature. The text messages telling Winslow to not reveal his illness was inexcuseable. This has not been a good month for Phil Savage. His rep throughout the league has taken a huge hit.




I only ever read that a Browns official sent the text message, not that Savage did. Did I miss something?




No you didn't. That is correct. The PR person for the Browns sent those text messages.




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