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If Marty is to be our next coach all I ask is for two things for him to do (at least two things he can control)

1.) Don't use the prevent defense
2.) Don't forget what you did all season that got you to the playoffs and keep doing it till after the final whistle of the super bowl

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Marty is like five hundred million years old. He'd probably get us to the playoffs and then step on the field and have a heart attack and die.

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but at least he'd get us to the playoffs


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Marty is like five hundred million years old. He'd probably get us to the playoffs and then step on the field and have a heart attack and die.







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Like I said, it just doesn't feel right.

It's like having a girlfriend who left you for your worst rival. She stood by his side and rooted for him while he kicked your ass everytime he saw you.
Now they broke up, your in a ... relationship and she's the best option out there.
Taking her back just won't feel right.

Now Marty is like getting back with your first love. The only reason you split up is because your parents (Modell) chased her away.

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Well, by that analogy, you should feel like getting Cowher back is like stealing your girl back from the guy that took her. Remember, Cowher was a Brown first as a player, then as a coach.


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well then put it this way. Your current relationship is horrible. It was really bad at first but then you saw a glimmer of hope it could work out for the long haul, only to find out your girlfriend was a mess and cheated on you by kicking field goals.

Then you have your ex-girlfriend who, while was fomerly with your rival, traeted you pretty good when she was here.


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Marty or Cowher are someone you want a marriage with.

Romeo is a one night stand.

Sorry, thats the best I got lol.



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I wouldn't have a one night stand with Romeo. But he could maybe sell me some condoms at the gas station.

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Now this thread has gotten really really weird.


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Speaking of marrying....when you hire Marty you get the family. Part of the reason he and SD parted ways is because he wanted to bring in his brother as DC. You've gotta like the whole package.

Marty is a good coach. I don't think he's great at crunch time during games but he's a good teacher and good coach in general. I still like Cowher for us though.


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I'd be all for the return of Marty Ball. I'll take his 14-2 record any day of the week. You have to figure it will work out for him at some point and he'll win the super-bowl and it would be great if it was in Cleveland.


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As bad as this season has been I think Cowher or Marty could IMMEDIATELY turn this thing around.

As in we could make the playoffs and be a serious force next year.

Looking around the league, there are some teams that are totally hapless (Rams and Lions), while there are some teams that are bad and will stay that way (Raiders). Then you have the underachievers (us, Jacksonville, San Diego, Philly, New Orleans, Green Bay, etc)

The underachievers can turn it around in one season. I like to think we're in the underachiever group. We just need another talent infusion and a coaching change to give us a new attitude.

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At this point, with this team and what we've seen since the return, there's not one fan that wouldn't want Marty ball back (for now).

Marty ball when he was here = playoffs. Plain and simple.

Yes, he was run out of here for not being able to win the big game, but look at how times have changed. Now we are STARVING for something that resembles a competitive team. Playoffs would be an added bonus, but just something that looks like a real team around here would be nice...

Marty has the experience and knows what it's like to coach here. Maybe the 2nd time will be the charm.


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Having Marty here would be awesome... It would take a lot for me to get past the history Cowher has with the Steelers. Yeah, he has history with the Browns, but his LEGACY is with the steelers...

Marty would be great.

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Good.

The notion that Shot is a bad fit because he didn't get to the Super Bowl is flawed IMHO.

I defended Cowher in this regard, just as I defended Peyton in this regard. Neither guy was good enough to win the big one until, you know, they won the big one

Simply put, Shot has been a winner everywhere he's gone. He got a raw deal when that idiot Dan Snyder in Washington dumped a proven HC for Spurrier, then got another raw deal when he was let go after a 14-2 season.

How are those moves working out, San Diego and Washington?

I'm totally on board with either Cowher or Marty. It's time for PROVEN coaches, not unproven ones.





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He's simply playin' all the talk down because that's how he's supposed to play it. His days didn't end well with the Steelers ownership, and he's had time to recharge his batteries. He's ready. Things just have to be on his terms, and giving him $8 million goes a long way to satisfying those terms, hehe.

You give either guy what he wants, and he's a Brown. Cowher will want control, Marty will want some. The big question will be whether or not Lerner makes the move I'm backing which is to demote Savage, which would open the door for Cowher.




That is a fact many people overlook, as much as he did for the steelers organization, he did not get best coach in the NFL type money. I too believe there was a rift there.


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As a side note to the Marty/Cowher debate.

Is it just me or does anyone else have mixed emotions on Cowher walking the Brown's sidelines.




No, not at all. Cowher is a proven winner, and has ties here.


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I hate where we are; I hate where we gotta go (again), but this ugly RAC ball needs to go, probably with the OC/DC as well. But these are great exmples of lousy judgment about football. Popularity be damned to hell.
Give me players; popular losers should not be allowed in BErea. Some immediate discipline, lose some lousy people we have propped up. Cowher is my 1st choice; Marty is 2nd.


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Speaking of Marty's family, here's some info (opinion column) from the Baltimore Sun (baltimoresun.com) on Brian Schottenheimer. Brian was a candidate for the Ravens HC job before they settled on Harbaugh. For those concerned about Marty's age, Brian could provide some stability and continuity as Asst HC under his father here. Just a thought ... I'd prefer Cowher, but Marty & Son might be an alternative.


Getting to know Brian Schottenheimer

Brian Schottenheimer has only been an offensive coordinator for two years so it's natural that many Ravens fans don't know a lot about him.

To help out, I've called on my resident Jets expert Ben Stauber. Loyal readers will remember that Ben helped us preview the Jets-Ravens game back in September. He is a former ESPN employee and still works in the industry. Ben follows the Jets as closely as anyone I know and even owns a Tom Tupa jersey. I asked him some questions about Schottenheimer's time in New York and whether he'd be a good fit for the Ravens. Here are his responses.

Q: What kind of an offense has Schottenheimer run since becoming Jets offensive coordinator before the 2006 season?

A: Schottenheimer received a great deal of attention for being a young, intelligent coach that fit right in with Eric Mangini and Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum. Despite the 4-12 record this season, Mangini still had the team coached up the right way and did a lot of smart and innovative things. Lacking ideal talent, Schottenheimer used a lot of pre-snap shifts, no-huddle, misdirections, etc. to try and keep defenses off-balance. It was a smart and balanced game plan. Without an elite running back in year one (and no run blocking), they focused more on short passes to keep the defense honest. In year two, they acquired Thomas Jones, but still couldn't block the run worth a lick. Schottenheimer received a little bit of heat here in New York for not giving Jones a lot of carries -- even garnering criticism from Jones himself. However, looking at the league leaders in carries, Jones ranked fifth in the NFL.

Q: That's an interesting nugget about Jones. Brian Billick was often criticized for not running Willis McGahee enough even though McGahee finished the season eighth in the NFL in carries (while missing the final game of the season).

Some Ravens fans would point to the Jets' offense ranking 25th and 26th over the past two seasons and wonder why Schottenheimer would be a head-coaching candidate. How much of New York's lack of offensive production should be attributed to Schottenheimer? How much of a role do Mangini and the players take? Has Mangini handed the offense over to Schottenheimer completely? Who calls the plays?

A: All indications are that Schottenheimer has complete autonomy. Mangini is a defensive guy, and there isn't an offensive guy on the staff who would pose a threat to Schottenheimer's role. The rankings to me are completely on the players of the New York Jets. Mostly, the offensive line play has been a complete disaster. Three-fifths of the line is questionable -- and D'Brickashaw Ferguson has not developed the way you would have liked. I suppose you could attribute that to Schottenheimer, but I'll lay the blame with the offensive line coach. In my opinion, you have to credit Schottenheimer for getting enough out of the offense to send them to the playoffs in year one. The 2006 Jets were the quintessential well-coached team.

Q: There were rumors that Schottenheimer was a front-runner for the Dolphins' head-coaching vacancy last season, but he withdrew his name from consideration. What were his reasons for doing this?

A: I think the reasons Schottenheimer withdrew his name were two-fold. First, he is young and inexperienced. He only had one year of being a coordinator under his belt when Miami was interested in him. The second reason, and the bigger one, was that he believed he had a very bright future. Schottenheimer comes from a good coaching lineage and could wait for a better opportunity than the Dolphins.

Q: Do you think Schottenheimer would make a good head coach? What would be his potential strengths and weaknesses, and would he be a good fit in Baltimore?

A: Obviously, the best thing about Baltimore is that the defense is in place. Schottenheimer would have a strong hand with the offense even as the head coach. He has some innovative ideas and is an energetic and smart young guy. I think he could be good in the short term, getting the most out of the talent he inherits. With that being said, he had some trouble adjusting this year, particularly when his game-plans from the previous year didn't work. He hasn't proven that he can have a good offense for multiple years, or that he can build an offense from scratch, let alone an entire team. I think he would be a good soldier and wouldn't be as pompous as Billick. I think he and Ozzie Newsome could get along well and would really do a nice job of getting the right pieces in place. Quite frankly, I was surprised to see the Ravens go after Schottenheimer because of his performance this year. I still think he is a fine coach, but I do think the hire would be a reach. I'd want to see him rebound in year three before I handed over the reigns.

Q: Schottenheimer is 34, barely older than Ravens veterans like Ray Lewis, Jonathan Ogden and Derrick Mason. Do you see him being able to take control of a veteran locker room? What is his relationship with the Jets players?

A: I think this is a huge question mark and an extremely valid point. A couple of guys, including offensive lineman Brandon Moore and [running back] Jones openly questioned Schottenheimer this year. It's also important to note that Mangini, in Parcellsian fashion, doesn't allow Schottenheimer to speak with the media. So he really did not have a chance to explain himself on questionable calls or defend himself to the criticism of players.

Like I've said a couple of times, I think Schottenheimer will one day make a very good coach. I just don't know if he is ready right now. I think the talent that Baltimore has would make for an appealing situation, but I also question his ability to control those defensive players in the media.

He isn't a Mike Martz/Steve Spurrier type where he is a mad scientist who just wants to run offense and let someone else handle the defense. I think he would want his own people in place and would be a little bit controlling. Overall I just don't think it's the right fit, right now.

When you hire a young guy like this, you are going a lot on blind faith. You have to assume he is organized, interviewed well and has shown leadership qualities during the process. When the Jets hired Mangini, most were happy because they wanted a Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick type and just blindly had faith that he could right the ship. I don't think the Ravens need that right now. They have a lot more talent than the Jets had two years ago, and they aren't ready to blow the whole thing up. If they are blowing the whole thing up, they could do a lot worse than Schottenheimer. But if you keep Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Chris McCalister, etc. and bring in Schottenheimer, I think it's a mistake.

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As a side note to the Marty/Cowher debate.

Is it just me or does anyone else have mixed emotions on Cowher walking the Brown's sidelines.




Absolutely not. I would have one emotion - I would be ecstatic.

I saw the crawler on ESPN2 about our supposed interest in Marty. I can't say I'm excited about it. Sure, he would be a big improvement over Romeo. As would others.

If Cowher is not a possibility then going w Marty is OK. But we've been down this road. And does he have enough brothers/sons/nephews to fill his staff?

What this tells me is that we're planning on keeping Savage.

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I wouldn't have a one night stand with Romeo. But he could maybe sell me some condoms at the gas station.

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NO JOKE dude haha... not to mention he weighs 400 POUNDS

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In all serioiusness though, this is a legitmately tough dilemma for the suits in the suites to deal with....

With Marty, yes he brings instant credibility, an attitude on the field, works EXTREMELY WELL with young talent we have and/or may bring in, and at the VERY LEAST would prime the team talent and winning-wise to be CONTENDERS... only downside is he is 65 years old (I am NOT AT ALL weary of him not winning and Conf. Championship.. that's horsecrap) and you don't know about who his successor would be... you're in a stage of a total questionmark for the serious future...

Cowher though, you lose Savage as he wants to be GM, but is that too much to handle? I look at a genius like Mike Homgren in Seattle who tried to do too much, and it has been a backfire, could that be us? I know he will give us intensity, desire, and classic AFC North football to contend at some point, but is that dual role of HC/GM too much, that deserves serious consideration if it will further hurt this team for the future and put us back at square one...

So, suit and ties.... what are you about to do?


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That was my first impression too.

That being said, Lerner is being smart. Lerner is setting up a possible fallback plan should Cowher not want to come here.

Seems like:
Option 1- Coach-Cowher GM-? (maybe Cowher)
Option 2- Coach-Marty GM- Savage

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Sources: Browns eye Schottenheimer for 2009
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The Cleveland Browns are formulating a plan that ultimately could lead to the return of Marty Schottenheimer as their coach for the 2009 season, according to sources.

The Browns would also be open to considering Bill Cowher if he sends stronger signals that he's ready to return, the sources said.


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The Browns plan to fire coach Romeo Crennel after a disappointing year, regardless of injuries the team has suffered, the sources said. Pubicly, owner Randy Lerner has only said he will evaluate Crennel after the season.

The future of general manager Phil Savage also has been the source of speculation by various media outlets. Sources said Lerner prefers to retain Savage to run his personnel department but could scale back his overall duties, which include the final say on all roster moves.

Before the 2008 season, Savage signed a four-year contract extension for an average of
$2.7 million per year, the sources said.

However, Lerner is contemplating a different authority -- or "voice" of the franchise -- that can filled by an experienced coach like Cowher or Schottenheimer, the sources said.


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Schottenheimer recently said he had no plans to return to the sidelines, but sources said he would consider coming back "for the job ... with a team that has a good core of talent."

Schottenheimer, 65, was fired by the San Diego Chargers after leading the team to a 14-2 record in 2006 and a first-round playoff bye. But a home second-round playoff loss to the New England Patriots and a broken relationship with general manager A.J. Smith led to a surprising dismissal in February 2007. Several Chargers players were upset that Schottenheimer was fired.

Schottenheimer was the Browns' defensive coordinator under Sam Rutigliano in 1980 but took over as head coach when Rutigliano was fired midway through the 1984 season. Schottenheimer had a 44-27 record with the Browns, won three divisional titles, had four playoff appearances and two AFC Championship Game appearances before he was fired by owner Art Modell.

Overall, in coaching stints with the Browns, Chiefs, Redskins and Chargers, Scottenheimer is one of only seven coaches with at least 200 career victories. His playoff record is 5-13.

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While not my first choice, I would drive the car to the airport to pick Marty up if he came back.

Several reasons...

-We can point to the playoffs, I know. But his teams aside from the 4-12 season in San Diego in his 2nd year have all been competitive. Much like Bill Cowher's teams in Pittsburgh. Bottom line? He knows how to utilize our talent...and I believe we have talent.

-We KNOW he can scheme for defense AS A HEAD COACH. One that uses the 3-4 the RIGHT way.

-This is the most important: HE KNOWS HOW TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS IN RIVALRY GAMES. This goes beyond Cleveland/Pittsburgh...he knew how to do it in KC and SD. There was a segment on a couple years ago talking about the stuff Marty did to train his players in KC to hate the Raiders. It was some pretty intense stuff...almost like brainwashing and taking it beyond the game of football. I loved it because that's what a rivalry is all about. You don't exchange Christmas cards after the game, nor should you be friendly. You HATE the Steelers, so hate everything about them.

-I do get the feeling that karma will finally swing his and our way...if Cowher can break through after 15 years then it's possible that it's just time for Marty to get the monkey off his back...but that's not a football reason, that's just optimism.

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One thing we have to look forward too, the off season should be full of news and info this year.


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I'm going to make this short concerning Marty. He's 65 yrs old and his best years are not ahead of him.

I don't buy this stuff about hiring Marty and you get Brian too. Who is to say this year or next year Brain is offered a head coaching job and he's gone. You can't ask him to wait around if his time has come to be a head coach after this season. Also, there are no assurances that Brian can coach in the NFL because he has no experience.

"NO", I don't want Marty due to his age.

I want a coach that knows how to beat the two teams that now look to have great futures in our division. If any of you watched the Ravens game or Steelers game yesterday, you could see just how far the Browns are from being at their level.

I want Bill Cowher, who at age 53 can bring some stability in that his age is not a factor. Cowher knows what it takes to win in our division, which is again, one of the toughest in the NFL.

It comes down to experience in the NFL and know how...Cowher has been to the top and knows what it takes to get there.

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I often wonder where these leaks come from?
And we know it'll be denied..one of the things people tend to forget..there's a rule inplace for teams looking for a new coach to interview minority coaches..so that has to happen first.

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Hey, I'm bias as HELL!



And I have no problem stating that I am. In case some have forgotten, I was lobbying for Marty as soon as RAC "flipped a coin"!



I've wanted Marty here since the beginning of last year and nothing has really changed. And I honestly believe if he had been brought in last year, we wouldn't be 4-9 right now.

We need to bring back traditional Browns football. And IF a coaching change is made, Marty is my personal FIRST choice.


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This article is a year old but a good read none the less.

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Dec 24, 2007 | 1:51PM | report this Selecting the right head coach is the most critical move an organization makes. The right hire creates an unbreakable chemistry or atmosphere that puts his team in position to compete for a championship.

What makes a great head coach? There are many factors to consider.

I believe being a productive coordinator shouldn’t be the only criteria. There are several solid coordinators who never develop into good head coaches. There are a lot of intangibles that play into becoming a solid head coach – leadership and vision for the big picture – are two that come into play.

What are the important traits of a NFL Head Coach?

Coaching Philosophies

Of course, it all starts with coaching philosophies. An owner and general manager must look for a head coach with offensive and defensive philosophies that fit the direction they want within their organization. I also believe coaching style is very important. Is the candidate a good communicator and motivator? Or does this candidate hold the possibility of alienating players with an abrasive personality?

Staffing

Ownership wants to learn about the make up of the potential coaching staff a candidate is bringing to the organization. How many does he want on the staff? What are their philosophies? Are they good teachers and communicators?

Personnel

How does the coach view the big-picture of building the team? Is there going to be an ideal chemistry between the head coach and the rest of the organization in building a winner together? Does he prefer building through the draft or does he want his front office to be active in free agency? How well does the coach know the personnel of the team he'’ interviewing with? Is he willing to develop younger players? What type of personnel is required for his offensive and defensive philosophies?

Administrative

There are plenty of non-football issues that are important. How does the coach schedule the off-season workouts? What are his philosophies on traveling issues? How would he handle the bye-week in the schedule? What’s his philosophy for working with the media? What are the nutritional requirements of the players?

Very good organizations have specific policies in place for handling these issues.

And let’s not forget the single most important trait – leadership! When an individual walks into the room and begins talking, ask yourself this question – Can this individual become the leader that others follow and guide us to a Super Bowl?





Top Coaching Candidates:

Jason Garrett – Offensive Coordinator, Dallas

Garrett has always been on the coaching watch, but his star is rapidly rising. Has proven to be a very smart offensive coach who believes in getting the ball in the hands of his playmakers. Has tremendous people skills and comes from a highly respected football family. Will be a coach that you can build an organization around for several years.

Josh McDaniels – Offensive Coordinator, New England

Has been well-groomed within Bill Belichick’s organization. Has good coaching instincts and a very good feel for developing players. Also has learned a lot in regards to personnel under Belichick and has proven himsel####ood evaluator of talent. I really believe McDaniels will be a solid head coach that you can build an organization around in tandem with a strong personnel department.

Rex Ryan – Defensive Coordinator, Baltimore

I believe this guy is very underrated. Uses some very unique defensive philosophies on the field. The most important aspects about Ryan are that he communicates very well with players and also understands personnel very well. I believe Ryan will help create a lot of cohesion within an organization.

Jim Schwartz – Defensive Coordinator, Tennessee

Has done an excellent job over the past several years in Tennessee. Is well-liked by players. Has excellent organizational skills and understands personnel. Is very salary cap conscious, which will help build chemistry with certain personnel departments.

Russ Grimm – Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line Coach, Arizona

Gets knocked by some people because he’s never been a coordinator, but he has an excellent opportunity to become a strong head coach within the right organizational structure. Possesses very good communication skills with players. He’s is very simple and has a no nonsense approach, so players know where they stand with him. Grimm is also known as one of the league’s best teachers.

Rob Ryan – Defensive Coordinator, Oakland

Is very similar to his brother in that he relates very well to players and knows how to evaluate talent for his scheme. He will have teams that project a lot of guts and passion. Ryan is a man who knows how to bring people together towards a common ideal.

Mike Singletary – Assistant Head Coach, San Francisco

Draws a lot of mixed reviews around the league due to his inexperience and has never had coordinator duties. On the plus side, he has tremendous leadership skills and will get guys to play for him. He’ll have a very disciplined team. Singletary will be successful within the proper organization structure. He’ll need a strong front office and good coordinators to complement his leadership skills.

Ron Rivera – Linebacker Coach, San Diego

Has been well-respected the last several years with his knowledge and ability to get a lot out of players. The Bears’ defense fell off in 2007 without Rivera. Has good communication skills and relates very well with players. Also has a solid background from his days in Philadelphia under Andy Reid and Jim Johnson.

Jim Caldwell – Assistant Head Coach/Quarterback Coach, Indianapolis

Is cut from the Tony Dungy mold in that he possesses a quiet strength and a solid football philosophy. He has a good reputation as an offensive coach. Has the respect of a lot of players. Has head coaching experience with Wake Forest in the past.

Leslie Frazier – Defensive Coordinator, Minnesota

Has been on the radar for a number of years now, but lost some of his star when he was fired a few years ago by the Cincinnati Bengals. Is pretty low key and has a versatile background. He’s worked under Jim Johnson and Tony Dungy as a position coach. Frazier isn’t a screamer, but coaches with a lot of energy. He’s also smart and a good communicator.

Norm Chow – Offensive Coordinator, Tennessee

Chow is a mystery as a head coaching candidate. He’s never been a college head coach and has only been in the NFL for a few years. He’s made a tremendous adjustment to the pro game because his offensive philosophy was always very pro-like. He’s done an excellent job in Tennessee to further his reputation as a tremendous teacher and quarterback guru.

Tony Sparano – Assistant Head Coach, Dallas

Is not a household name, but has earned a lot of respect around the league. Is a good offensive coach and teacher. He has solid communication skills and holds players accountable. Is very well respected by players.

Brian Schottenheimer – Offensive Coordinator, N.Y. Jets

Comes from a good football background and has a tremendous knowledge of the offensive side of the football. Is very complex with his philosophy on the offensive side of the ball and could be a little too creative at times. He could use another year of experience, but has a solid future and has been groomed to become a coach for several years.

Clancy Pendergast – Defensive Coordinator, Arizona

Thinks a lot out of the box and is very flexible. Is one of the league’s better teachers and has excellent communication skills. Is respected by his players and has a tireless work ethic. He’s a lot like Jon Gruden in his passion for the game.

Ron Meeks – Defensive Coordinator, Indianapolis

Meeks has risen the level of play of the Colts’ defense the past few years and has worked under some strong programs in the past. Is a hard worker who demands excellence from his players. Meeks is tough, but knows how to relate with players and get the most from them. Meeks knows the blueprint of building a championship team.

Mike Zimmer – Defensive Coordinator, Atlanta

His name isn’t tossed around as much like it was a few years ago, but he’s still a known commodity. Is a very intense and aggressive-minded coach who demands a lot from his players. Zimmer knows how to see the big picture and earned respect by adapting under different head coaches in the past.

Mike Heimerdinger – Assistant Head Coach, Denver

Has a solid reputation around the league for his abilities on the offensive side of the ball. He has worked two stints under Mike Shanahan and successfully re-invented the offense during his tenure with the Titans. Working under Jeff Fisher and Mike Shanahan helps his resume. He’s very intense and isn’t afraid to hold players accountable. He’s known as a taskmaster with his players and some have concerns with how he’ll handle the media.

Mike Smith – Defensive Coordinator, Jacksonville

Has quietly earned respect around the league. Has done a solid job building a defense around the strength of his players and knows how to adapt.



Future Candidates To Watch:

Raheem Morris – Secondary Coach, Tampa Bay

Is perhaps the hottest young coach in the league right now. Morris is an excellent teacher and puts a lot of emphasis on fundaments, both which are rare for younger coaches these days. Has excellent communication skills and is very well-respected by players.

Rob Chudzinski – Offensive Coordinator, Cleveland

Is another solid young coach who is gaining a solid reputation in just his first season as an offensive coordinator. Has shown he can relate well to players and understands the importance of establishing a strong ground game while also pushing the ball through the air to his playmakers. For a young coach, he possesses a solid philosophy and learned a lot from his time on Marty Schottenheimer’s staff.

Kyle Shanahan – Quarterback Coach, Houston

Has strong bloodlines being the son of Mike Shanahan, but it runs much deeper than this. Shanahan has gotten strong reviews from a few other coaches for his work ethic and preparation skills. Possesses a knack to connect naturally with players.

Perry Fewell – Defensive Coordinator, Buffalo

Has put himself on the radar this season after a growing reputation as a position coach. Fewell has overcome a lot of adversity with several injuries and personnel limitations on the defensive side of the ball. He has a lot of energy in his approach and possesses a good reputation as a teacher.

Hue Jackson – Offensive Coordinator, Atlanta

Has been an excellent position coach for several years and displays a lot of natural feel for the offensive side of the ball. Jackson is young and has a lot of energy. He communicates very well and players are energized playing for him.



Top Retreads:

Marty Schottenheimer – Not Currently Coaching

He’s not a long-term hire at this stage of his career, but is very attractive because he’s put together winning teams in multiple stops. Is one of the best motivators and teachers in the league. Schottenheimer has a strong presence, but does an excellent job getting guys to play for him.

Bill Cowher – Not Currently Coaching

Has more longevity than Schottenheimer and did a tremendous job through a few transitions in Pittsburgh. Cowher sets an aggressive tone with his teams based on his emotion and intensity. The only question that really surrounds Cowher is whether he can duplicate the success he experienced in Pittsburgh with another organization. Cowher worked under one of the most stable franchises and had tremendous assistants. Although he won with a few different groups of core players in Pittsburgh, Cowher is best with a veteran team.

Gregg Williams – Defensive Coordinator, Washington

One of the league’s best defensive minds for the last several years – dating back to his time in Tennessee. Has a strong personality, which became overbearing in his initial head coaching experience with Buffalo. Has learned a lot from his mistakes and his experience working with Joe Gibbs is an added bonus. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Williams have a Bill Belichick type tenure in his second go around if he finds the right fit for himself.

Steve Mariucci – Not Currently Coaching

I believe some owners just can’t forget about Mariucci’s failure in Detroit after fielding some very good teams in San Francisco. Mariucci coaches with a lot of passion and is very organized. He usually gets the respect of most of his players. There could be some front office opportunities for Mariucci at some point. As a head coach, I believe he needs to be surrounded with strong assistants so he can focus on the big picture.

Jim Haslett – Defensive Coordinator, St. Louis

Haslett had some rough moments in New Orleans after a strong start as a head coach. He’ll be on the list of a few teams over the next couple years as he is rebuilding the St. Louis defense. The St. Louis organization is very high on Haslett and the players absolutely enjoy working under Haslett. The only concern about Haslett is whether his intensity gets the best of him sometimes.

Jim Fassel – Not Currently Coaching

There are a lot of mixed opinions on Fassel around the league. Fassel is a solid offensive coach and has a good track record with quarterbacks. Is very intense and sometimes has a quick temper, which can alienate players at times. The red flag with some owners is the amount of infighting (offense vs. defense) during his tenure with the Giants. One thing that I respect tremendously about Fassel is that he’s a fighter. He battled through a lot of adversity in New York.

Jim Mora – Secondary Coach, Seattle

Mora is a tremendous coach who provides a lot of energy and tenacity to his players. Mora is an excellent communicator and guys love playing for him. He’s proven he can win as a head coach, but must become firmer with discipline in his next stop.

Mike Martz – Offensive Coordinator, Detroit

Martz is another candidate that draws a lot of mixed emotions around the league. He’s a great offensive mind and gets a lot out of his quarterbacks. But the problem with Martz remains his ego. He doesn’t mesh well with everyone in the building. I believe he’s more of an offensive coach than a head coach.

Dan Reeves – Not Currently Coaching

Has a very strong career track record dating back to his days as head coach in Denver, but doesn’t command the same respect as Bill Parcells or Joe Gibbs. Has struggled at times with younger players and lacks ideal communication skills. Has a very conservative philosophy towards building a team and prefers to work with veteran teams. Wouldn’t mind an opportunity to coach again, but it would have to be the right fit.



Top College Candidates:

Kirk Ferentz - Iowa

Is one of the few college coaches who can make the transition to the NFL because he was a well-respected under Bill Belichick. Ferentz is an excellent big-picture and organizational type with tremendous communication skills. His leadership skills grade very high.

Pete Carroll – Southern California

Despite his success at Southern California, I don’t view Carroll as a NFL savior. He was just average in two head coaching stints in the NFL. Some coaches learn from their initial head coaching experience in the NFL, but I can’t see Carroll’s personality changing very much. There are just too many character questions with Carroll away from the field to become a focused head coach at this level.

Jeff Tedford - California

Tedford has a dynamic offensive mind and believes in offensive balance. He possesses excellent leadership and organizational skills. His sense of the big picture and his personality in working with people are first-rate. Tedford has now shown he can build a strong program. Some people within the league are intrigued with his reputation with quarterbacks.

Ron Prince – Kansas State

Worked under Al Groh at Virginia and worked under the NFL minority fellowship program in the past. Has gained a lot of respect with the job he’s done re-energizing Kansas State’s program in just two years. Prince has tremendous leadership skills and passion. He is very smart and displays good organization skills.

June Jones – Hawaii

Wasn’t a big winner as a head coach in the NFL, but is highly respected by many within the league. Has done some excellent things with quarterbacks and the offensive side of the football in the past. Works well with people.

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My first thought was Oh No another coach reportedly contacted by us who is not a Minority.

My 2nd thought was, hmmm maybe if we circulate enough of these nothing would be certain and the process can go in the order that we wish.

For those who STILL claim that Randy is a Tight Wad... I have no clue where somebody would ever get that impression and that he wouldn't open up the purse strings for a coach.

There is no doubt that we will offer... AHEM after the processs of interviews 8 mil per year for 5 years to Cowher. Or Could as in RANDY will PAY! Come on Dawgs he paid Butch 20+mil NOT TO COACH. Where does this conception that he is cheap coming from???

Now onto to Marty...one thing I like about MARTY...EVERY and I mean EVERY team he has coached. Punched the other teams in the MOUTH...an expression used for being a team that owned and took teams out at the LOS! Something very lacking with our team not via personnel but in character!

And Marty has won - Every Where...3 stops - 3 eras.

Actually its sort of funny but Cowher who has similar characteristics...is of the MARTY TREE of coaching. Are they One in the same???

As for who coached where, what and how.

Some wise poster here stated...A good coach is a good coach...or close to that.

Who cares if they coached from a rival. How many think Savage sucks cause he's from the Ravens. Why cause the Ravens once were the Browns?

Well so was Cowher...once a Brown

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Not sure if this was dicussed or not but let's throw the whole head coaching position out the window for one second and say we already have a coach, call it who you want.

Let's talk about who our staff would be, who would we bring in as coordinators, position coaches and would we hold over anybody from our current staff? Or do we go to the college ranks?

I mean obviously the hires are going to be determinned on the philosiphys of the hired coach. But just for fun all of you give me who you think would be the best fit's with your desired coach. Kind of interested in some opinions.

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I'd love to have Marty. He's a proven coach and he's won everywhere he's ever been. I'm also very confident that he'll bring a great staff in with him.

All this said, I'd rather have Cowher. It seems as if coaching the Browns has always been Cowher's dream job. I think Cowher is a better coach, I think he's more of a defensive guy, and he is younger. I like the old fashion attitude that Cowher brings. Run the ball and play physical defense. I love that. I also like the 3-4 that Cowher ran in Pittsburgh a lot better than the one Marty ran in San Diego.

I'd prefer Cowher, but I'd be thrilled with either one of them.

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Marty becomes head coach, knows Chud so he stays, and brings his son over from the Jets, leaving Chud or his son to inhearet the team after 3-4 years. Maybe...Just a thought, it would be a smooth transition briging in Marty with Chud already working for him, this way we dont have to change the entire offence again making the learning curve that must easier.

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You really can't discuss staff until a decision is made on the coaching position.
That new coach will probably want to choose his own assistants..

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I think If we hire Cowher then these guys could get a look at our coordinator positions.

O Coor- Tom Clements GB QB coach- Good track record at getting the best out of a quarterback, has had previous success as an offensive coordinator and also worked under Cowher in Pittsburgh as a quarterback coach.

D Coor- Keith Butler LB coach Pittsburgh- Pitsburghs LB's are good year in and year out. He's worked under Cowher and he has previous coaching experience with the Browns.

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I know that, I'm just asking that if the coach you want hired is hired who do you think he might bring on his staff?

Just trying to get a feel for potential guy's that might be getting a look at the job if certain guy's are hired. And who we would even be able to bring in.

The reason for this is merely the fact that who you bring on your staff as your coordinators plays a very integral part of a head coaches success, after all they are the ones calling the plays.

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