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I really believe it was Savage that screwed this thing up, particularly the D by not getting RAC the guys he wanted/needed. Consequently, RAC as DC isn't all that off base for me.
There's an article on PFT about Mangini already speaking with Jets assistants about joining him in Cleveland. If the Jets don't hire Callahan as HC, the Mangini, RAC, Callahan team doesn't seem out of the question. RAC and Callahan might be just the "old hands" a relatively young HC needs. As for GM, IMO Heckert might be the better pick than Kokinis.
Let's give the new coaches and GM a chance.
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without a doubt, get some proven assistants and a proven GM, and i think mangini will be just fine


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If Romeo was the DC, you wouldn't see the same quiet Romeo on the sidelines anymore... He would be in all of their faces. I've seen him go off when he was with New England.. lol...

Guys wouldn't know what to do.

Let McDonald dive for a deflection again.. lmao...
Let the defense miss a tackle and give up a TD... lmao...


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I hope he succeeds but I'm not getting my hopes up.

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If Romeo was the DC, you wouldn't see the same quiet Romeo on the sidelines anymore... He would be in all of their faces. I've seen him go off when he was with New England.. lol...

Guys wouldn't know what to do.

Let McDonald dive for a deflection again.. lmao...
Let the defense miss a tackle and give up a TD... lmao...


Come on back RAC!! We NEED U! We WANT U!




You're right about this...

Romeo showed 1000x more fire as a DC than as a HC.

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If Romeo was the DC, you wouldn't see the same quiet Romeo on the sidelines anymore... He would be in all of their faces. I've seen him go off when he was with New England.. lol...

Guys wouldn't know what to do.

Let McDonald dive for a deflection again.. lmao...
Let the defense miss a tackle and give up a TD... lmao...


Come on back RAC!! We NEED U! We WANT U!




I'll tend to agree here. RAC seemed so far over his head as HC. I think if he can concentrate on the one thing he's best at and doesn't have to do all the HC things any longer he may succeed.

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Only time will tell at this point and I'm wondering what the over/under time line is going to be?

Will HC stand for Head Coach or Head Case?


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Only time will tell at this point and I'm wondering what the over/under time line is going to be?

Will HC stand for Head Coach or Head Case?




Well.. based on history...

The fans will decide that pretty soon...

as soon as we lose a PRESEASON game...


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I mean when I posted the link to him getting fired... the thought crossed my mind..but a head coach without a GM??? It really makes me wonder about Lerner..

Not that I am too unhappy, wanted a NFL coach and did like what I heard about his discipline. regardless.. Im still extremely puzzeled by the way this played out

anyways, Welcome to cleveland Mr.Mangini we are a blue collar town and we want a winner above all... GET TO WORK!





Why??


In the end, Lerner decided a strong coach with "most" of the say- so is more important than who is GM.

It makes it so much simpler to hold people accountable.

This is the way it should be IMO...a strong coach with a GM who works to compliment him..


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BOTH!



I've heard he's obsessive complusive when it comes to football. Per an unnamed source...........



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WOW,, what a lot of different opinions...

He'll be in on a news conference tomorrow. let's see what the guy has to say.. Hopefully we'll see what Lerner saw in him....


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Call me cautiously optimistic, just like how I approached this past season.

But, in any event, welcome to Cleveland Coach Mangini! Make us a winner! A PERENNIAL winner!


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Coach - having a bunch of longshots tell you "no" isn't doing due diligence. Due diligence is taking a big sampling of the best the market has to offer (that can actually take the job), interviewing them, narrowing down the field, conducting more rounds of interviews and then, at the end of the process, having a list of a small number of top candidates that you know extensively due to the interview process and determining which is a best fit for your organization. This way, you get the best person for the job. It's the reason why coaches can succeed as both retreads and brand spankin' new... they have to be the best candidate.

Instead, we got an owner who fell head over heels for a candidate and rather than testing him against the field, interviewed two other serious candidates (Spagnuolo and McDaniels), a Rooney Rule candidate (Tucker), chased away his other interviews and then called it quits. You know he couldn't have even done a second interview with Spagnuolo because of his team's situation. 3 serious candidates, 9 days (and I bet a few of those days were spent discussing contract details with Mangini anyway). It doesn't matter if he had an idea who he wanted to go after at the beginning, that's no excuse for packing that all in once you meet with your first guy. You can do that for a proven guy like Cowher... not Mangini.

Again, my concern is not with Mangini as much as it is the process that hired him. Mangini has his merits and his flaws. If those merits and flaws were weighed against those of many other candidates and deliberated over a legitimate timeframe, I'd have all kinds of faith in this hire. As is, color me skeptical.

I look at it like this... there's a chance Mangini is the best candidate for us out there. There's a chance he's a home run here, and I'll be pulling for that. The thing is, with only 2 other serious interviews as a comparison, that's all he is... a chance. Lerner assumes that Mangini is the best because he liked him so much. If he explored all of his other realistic options, that could go from a chance to a certainty that at this time, he's the best we can get. That's not how it is.

As I said, I'm hoping he becomes what Lerner thinks he is, but the fact that his search was bare bones at best leaves me feeling concerned that maybe the best avenue went unexplored.


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I agree and like the strong coach part but Its an oragnization....... and in "my opinion" You have to start at the top down....you dont hire a VP before the President normally

but this may also mean Mangini is going to have ALOT of pull

Im just curious..... we'll find out when the dust settles

but regardless I just want to see some wins....

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Will HC stand for Head Coach or Head Case?




BOTH!



I've heard he's obsessive complusive when it comes to football. Per an unnamed source...........



I HOPE IT WASN'T.....MONK
I don't know about this ..down here they are saying Callahan(not Harry) is going to be OC....that really scares me
I was really hoping we would take the Philly tree not NE branch

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Due diligence is taking a big sampling of the best the market has to offer (that can actually take the job), interviewing them, narrowing down the field, conducting more rounds of interviews and then, at the end of the process, having a list of a small number of top candidates that you know extensively due to the interview process and determining which is a best fit for your organization.




For cryin out loud, he interviewed 5 guys face to face, talked to Shanahan on the phone (or so we're told), wanted to talk to a couple of more of them but for various reasons didn't,,,

What the heck more do you want out of the guy...

Spec, if you owned this team and you interviiewed 5 or so guys and one of the struck you and THE ONE... you would jump on it also,,,

Anyone of us would probably do the same thing unless we had issues making up our minds or something..


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Personally, I like the hire.

A lot.

I think that Mangini did a lot of good things in New York ..... but has *just* a few things to improve upon, which should allow him to grow and improve as a coach.

His preference is a strong running game matched with a solid defense. (as stated in New York, and as the Jets team was built prior to the trade for Lord Brett) I prefer that style of football. If you can run the ball and play defense, you can win games.... and championships. If you can't ..... you won't win consistently enough to ever be a championship contender.

I haven't heard about team snitches, or any of the other baggage that was unloaded on Belichick his first time around. (Remember Pepper Johnson and other former Giants who reportedly spied on the locker room for Belichick?) Kind of ironic that it depends on whose snitch it is as far as whether or not it's good or bad.

I am hopeful that Manginin brings in an experienced and capable group of assistants. I think this is more likely with an experienced head coach than with a rookie.

I do wonder who the GM will wind up being. I have heard that Lerner thinks a lot of McCreight. I expect that he stays with the team .... and might well become the new GM. In fact, I would put it as 50-50 between him and the guy from Baltimore.


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If Romeo was the DC, you wouldn't see the same quiet Romeo on the sidelines anymore... He would be in all of their faces. I've seen him go off when he was with New England.. lol...

Guys wouldn't know what to do.

Let McDonald dive for a deflection again.. lmao...
Let the defense miss a tackle and give up a TD... lmao...


Come on back RAC!! We NEED U! We WANT U!




Supposedly RAC is out. He talked to Mangini about being the coordinator but they decided it wouldn't be best. The name being floated right now is Rob Ryan who has good enough chops for me. As much as I think RAC is a good defensive coordinator, to keep him on the organization as a demotion would keep us from moving forward in a new direction IMO.


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Pluto's take:

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2009/01/quick_impression_manginis_a_go.html

Quick impression: Mangini's a good choice
by Terry Pluto/Plain Dealer Reporter
Wednesday January 07, 2009, 6:41 PM

If I had to pick a coach for the Browns, it would Eric Mangini.

He's the best coach available because he has two winning records in three seasons and, at the age of 37, he is in the prime of his coaching career. He should be smart enough to learn from some of his mistakes in New York, especially early in his tenure when he was especially hard on some players and sometimes did a poor imitation of a grumpy Bill Belichick.

The Browns are a team in need some of discipline. It's hard to imagine Mangini allowing Braylon Edwards to work out in his socks while on the field -- which led to Donte Stallworth spiking his fellow receiver when they were messing around during pre-practice exercises.

Let's hope that Mangini will not allow something like the Kellen Winslow staph infection incident to drag on for more than a week, or that he will flip a coin to decide which quarterback starts a preseason game as former coach Romeo Crennel did in 2007.

If you are going to fire Crennel -- the easy-going players coach -- then it makes sense to begin to change the personality of the team by bringing in a coach with a different mindset and approach.

That's Mangini.


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To me, the ONE isn't the ONE unless I can be certain of it. I won't buy a car unless I make sure that the one I buy is the best on the market. Maybe it's just me, but I want to be absolutely sure that with a big, important purchase, that I do it right.

Again, Mangini is a fine choice and I'm pleased with him overall - he was in my Top 5 from the beginning once he was let go. My only problem is that I don't like any process around this to center around any one particular guy with such fervor and aggression unless he's flat out bonafide (like Cowher). That's what has me concerned. Can you at least understand that's the reason why I'm cautiously optimistic with this hire instead of dancing in the streets?

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I with you on the sentiment Psydeffect.

Maybe my guy will be ready to advance to HC in 3-4 years if Mangini can't get it done (My guy was Mike Munchak, my choice of the interviewed guys was Spags then McDanials)

I will take a day or two to take a step back then jump on the mangini bandwagon because while he isn't my choice he is now the Browns HC so I will give him my full support.


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Jagowkowski or however you spell his name was fired today from Boston U. He might be a good OC. Is it a given that Chud will be gone?

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Last time you bought a car ..... how many did you drive?

How many different models?

Once you narrowed it down to a particular model, how many different dealerships and salespeople did you work with?



If you're like most people, you looked until you found a car you liked, and a salesperson you liked and trusted. Then you bought the car.


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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/01/browns_coaches_records.html

CLEVELAND --- The Browns have agreed to terms on a contract with Eric Mangini to be their 12th full-time head coach, a league source said Wednesday.
Mangini, fired by the Jets last week, will be introduced in a press conference Thursday morning.

Mangini, who turns 38 on Jan. 19, was the first of four candidates interviewed by Lerner to replace Romeo Crennel. Mangini was fired by the New York Jets on Dec. 29, the day after the Jets lost their final game and were eliminated from the AFC playoffs.

Lerner interviewed Mangini the next day. Lerner was so impressed that he never wavered from Mangini as his first choice. The owner also interviewed Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and Browns defensive coordinator Mel Tucker.

Mangini's hiring increases the possibility of Crennel staying with the Browns, perhaps as defensive coordinator. Mangini and Crennel worked five years together on Bill Belichick's New England staff, sharing three Super Bowl championships. When Crennel was named Browns coach in 2005, Mangini was his first choice for defensive coordinator, but Mangini opted to stay in New England as Crennel's replacement in charge of the Patriots' defense.


Mangini stayed one year with New England before moving to the arch-rival Jets as head coach, creating a deep rift with Belichick, who was responsible for moving Mangini into coaching on the old Browns' staff in 1995.

Mangini's first job with the Browns was as a ballboy. He then served an internship with the public relations staff. Belichick was impressed with his attention to detail and gave him tasks to help the coaching staff.

Mangini was 23-26 in three years as Jets coach. His firing was a surprise to many in the NFL but not so much to those close to the Jets situation.

Jets owner Woody Johnson talked of giving Mangini a contract extension when the team was 8-3. But after four losses in their last five games, Johnson pulled the plug on the coach who had acquired the nickname "Mangenius" for going 10-6 in his first season as coach.

The Jets were 0-2 against the Browns under Mangini, losing, 20-13, in Cleveland in 2006, and 24-18, in the Meadowlands in 2007.

After the 2007 season, the Jets doled out more than $160 million in contracts for veteran players to push the team over the hump. The spending spree included a decision late in training camp to trade for disgruntled Green Bay quarterback Brett Favre.

Favre's acquisition led to the release of popular veteran quarterback Chad Pennington. The division rival Miami Dolphins quickly signed Pennington, and he led them to the AFC East title, earning the NFL's comeback player-of-the-year award.

Mangini, who was against the pickup of Favre, sparred with the future Hall of Famer. Favre threw nine interceptions in the last five games, precipitating the team's free-fall. Johnson wanted Favre to return in 2009 and felt the chances were greater of that with a change of coaches.

In his interview with Lerner, Mangini touted long-time friend George Kokinis, Baltimore Ravens pro personnel director, as his choice to work as Browns' chief football executive. The Browns can't interview Kokinis until Sunday.


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You know I'm very happy about the hire!



But yes, a lot of questions remain. And with McCreight, I just feel if that were agreeable to Mangini and Lerner, they would have been announced either together, or McCreight would have been named first, then he would have announced Mangini.

I mean if McCreight were the guy, there would be no reason not to announce it. The only way I see McCreight as a legitimate candidate, is if the bottom falls out on a deal with Coke.

And for some reason, I think the deal is already pretty much done with acception to the "official interview".

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Jagowkowski or however you spell his name was fired today from Boston U. He might be a good OC. Is it a given that Chud will be gone?




Chud will be gone... and he SHOULD be gone.

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I like the fact that he was on the Sopranos. Fahgetaboutit... LOL.

I hope they retain Chud and Tucker gets let go or back to D-Backs coach.
Mangini, good luck. I hope you have what it takes, to overcome some seriously bad voodoo.


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Plenty on all accounts, and I consider hiring the head coach of a billion dollar franchise a little more important than me buying a ride.

On a side note, just to throw a little fuel to the fire, apparently Donovan said that one of the reasons Mangini was hired is because he told Lerner "I can win with Brady Quinn" in his interview.


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I have always liked and respected Ernie Accorsi. This is what he says about Kokinis.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/01/while_kokinis_has_his_skeptics.html

CLEVELAND --- If the Browns indeed pair up new coach Eric Mangini with GM candidate George Kokinis, they will be seeking to duplicate the success enjoyed by the Atlanta Falcons this year.
Atlanta turned around its fortunes in one year with a young, rookie general manager at the helm. Thomas Dimitroff, 43, was an out-of-left field candidate to reshape the Falcons and now he is taking bows for transforming them from 4-12 to 11-5 in one year.

Kokinis, 41, the Baltimore Ravens pro personnel director, is the hand-picked choice of Mangini to be the next Browns general manager.

The Browns have interviewed Patriots vice president of personnel Scott Pioli and have received permission to interview Eagles General Manager Tom Heckert. But many consider a Mangini-Kokinis pairing to be a fait accompli because of the strong relationship they've had over the years.

They were among the hungry and driven entry-level staffers who worked essentially as gofers for Bill Belichick in his five seasons as Browns coach in the early 1990s.


Pioli was part of the group. So was Mike Tannenbaum, who eventually became Jets GM. So was Phil Savage, the recently fired Browns GM.

When Belichick was fired by Art Modell after the 1995 season, most of his staff moved to Baltimore. Kokinis is the only one from that pack still with the Ravens.

Mangini tried to hire him with the Jets on at least two occasions. But because Tannenbaum held the top football authority with the Jets, the Ravens had the right to block a lateral move for Kokinis.

Kokinis could only join the Browns as GM or similar position, contractually assured the final say on all football decisions.

Is he ready for that?

One veteran NFL executive said, "Hiring a GM is like drafting a quarterback. You bring in a rookie and, unfortunately, there's a learning curve in the NFL. I think it just depends on how much a learning curve you want to go through."
Another veteran NFL executive said, "He's really less prepared [than Savage] because he's only doing pro personnel."

Savage held the title of director of player personnel with Baltimore, which meant he directly supervised the Ravens' college scouting and pro scouting departments. When Savage left in 2005 for the Browns' job, the Ravens did not fill his job. Kokinis (pro personnel) and Eric DeCosta (director of college scouting) merely reported directly to General Manager Ozzie Newsome.

"You look at the Ravens and they're built through the draft, not through free agency," observed one source.

Also, Dimitroff, the model in Atlanta, served five years as Belichick's director of college scouting with New England before making the jump to GM. Kokinis has been in the Ravens' pro personnel department for nine years -- six as director -- after working as a college scout for four years.

Ernie Accorsi offers a different opinion.

The former Browns executive -- now retired after building the New York Giants championship team -- served as a consultant for the Falcons last year when owner Arthur Blank went looking to rebuild his football operation.

"My three recommendations were Dimitroff, Tom Heckert and Kokinis," Accorsi said. "Blank really loved Dimitroff and hired him before interviewing Kokinis."

It turns out that Accorsi -- and not Belichick -- was the man responsible for bringing Kokinis to Cleveland in 1991. Kokinis had been a baseball graduate assistant at University of Richmond when Accorsi's godson played for the team. Accorsi gave Kokinis an entry level job in the Browns' operations department. After Accorsi left the following year, Belichick took Kokinis under his large wing.

"Everybody fell in love with him," Accorsi said of Kokinis, who was 24 at the time. "Hard worker, smart, a great kid. Now, over the years, I'd lost touch with him. But through my scouts [with the Giants], I got to know of him well. I'd ask about him all the time, and everybody liked him. Ozzie was really high on him."

Accorsi debunks the theory that a general manager is best qualified coming through the scouting ranks, since the draft is the lifeblood of the NFL.

"Number one, I think he did plenty of college scouting," Accorsi said. "Number two, [former NFL executive and Hall of Famer] Jim Finks always told me that for the GM job, it's more important to have a pro personnel background.

"His reasoning was you always have time to prepare for the draft. What's more important is to know the league, not only the players but what it takes to play in the league. The NFL game changes, positions change. The coaches know the league and the pro personnel guys know the league. A lot of the college scouts, they don't see the NFL games much.

"Listen, it's the person that matters, but you're better off being a pro guy because you're going to know the league. You can always get ready for the draft. Finks would preach, 'Look at pro tape, look at pro tape.'"

Newsome said he would not even entertain questions about Kokinis while he is going through the Browns' interview process.

Another NFL team executive summed up Kokinis this way: "He's a real good guy and works 24 hours a day. He's one of those guys that sleeps in the office."

Accorsi thinks Kokinis is ready to make the jump.

"The more research I did, the more I was convinced of it," Accorsi said. "He works like hell. He's a great guy. But you never know. These jobs can change people because the pressure and scrutiny is so great."


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http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/37232619.html

Browns hire Mangini
By Marla Ridenour
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POSTED: 05:45 p.m. EST, Jan 07, 2009

Eric Mangini completed his rise from Browns ball boy and public relations intern Wednesday, when he reached agreement on a contract to become the team's fourth coach since 1999.

Mangini went 23-25 with the New York Jets, including a 10-6 playoff season in his first year in 2006. In 2008, the Jets started 8-3 but finished 9-7 as quarterback Brett Favre faded down the stretch.

Mangini, who turns 38 on Jan. 19, was the first person Lerner interviewed after firing coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Phil Savage after a 4-12 season and 24-40 record over four years.

"I'm excited for him," Indians general manager Mark Shapiro said of Mangini, his brother-in-law. "He's an extremely intelligent, creative and driven guy. He will increase the Browns' chances to be a championship team again.

"On a personal level this is the first time in 18 years in Cleveland that I will have family here and that would be a reason for other family members to come to visit."

Terms of Mangini's contract were not disclosed. He will be introduced at a press conference at 9:30 a.m. Thursday.

A protege of former Browns coach Bill Belichick and a graduate of Belichick's alma mater Wesleyan University, Mangini worked with Belichick for 10 years, including one in Cleveland (1995) and three with the Jets when Belichick was assistant head coach under Bill Parcells.

Mangini spent six years in New England, the last as defensive coordinator succeeding Crennel. But Mangini and Belichick are no longer speaking after Mangini allegedly blew the whistle on the Patriots' illegal taping of defensive signals in the 2007 "Spygate" controversy.

Cleveland.com reported that Mangini is contacting members of his Jets staff he wants to bring with him, including quarterbacks coach Brian Daboll and receivers coach Noel Mazzone. According to the New York Daily News, Mangini also wants to hire offensive coordinator Bill Callahan. But the former Oakland Raiders and Nebraska coach remains under contract and was recently interviewed for the Jets coaching vacancy.

Mangini could also consider keeping Crennel on as an assistant since they worked together for seven years with the Jets and Patriots.

Also interviewed for the Browns' coaching position were Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and Browns defensive coordinator Mel Tucker. But Lerner preferred a coach with prior experience in the top job and none of them filled that bill. Lerner was also rebuffed by former Steelers coach Bill Cowher, a CBS analyst who intends to sit out for a third season.

Mangini came to the Browns in 1994 and was promoted to coaches assistant in 1995. He worked one season in Baltimore as an offensive assistant before rejoining Belichick in 1997.

Lerner must wait until Sunday to interview Ravens director of pro personnel George Kokinis, a close friend of Mangini and his suggested candidate for general manager.

According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Browns also received permission to talk to Eagles general manager Tom Heckert. Heckert, 41, has been a general manager for three years and with the Eagles for eight. His father Tom was a Browns scout from 1982-86.

Although Heckert does not have final say over the 53-man roster, with that power held by coach Andy Reid, he seems more qualified than Kokinis. But lining up a possible interview with Heckert may only be a fall-back plan by Lerner if his session with Kokinis does not go well or if Lerner does not want to give Mangini the luxury of selecting his own general manager.

The hiring of Mangini means the end to Lerner's courting of New England vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli. After interviewing in Kansas City Monday, it appears Pioli will remain in New England.




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ESPN is reporting that Mangini is expected to hire that Dabollo guy as OC and Rob Ryan as DC

I LOVE the Rob Ryan move. I am feeling pretty good about this right now.




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The Cleveland Browns have agreed to hire former New York Jets head coach Eric Mangini as their head coach.


Mangini, fired last week by the Jets, agreed to four-year deal, a source close to the situation told ESPN.com's Michael Smith.

Mangini will be introduced at a Thursday news conference at the team's headquarters in Berea, a person with knowledge of the negotiations told The Associated Press, who spoke on condition of anonymity because Mangini's contract has not been finalized. Mangini reached an agreement with the club Wednesday, the person said.

The 37-year-old Mangini began his NFL career as a ballboy with the Browns in 1994 under then-coach Bill Belichick.

Mangini went 23-25 and made the playoffs once in three seasons with the Jets, who stumbled down the stretch to lose four of their last five games and miss the playoffs after an 8-3 start.

Mangini is taking over the job that one of his best friends in football, Romeo Crennel, was just fired from. The friendship dates to the duo's days as assistants with the Jets under Bill Parcells. Mangini was a defensive assistant while Crennel was the Jets' defensive line coach from 1997-99. Mangini followed Bill Belichick to New England in 2000, and Crennel joined the Patriots' staff a year later after a stint as Cleveland's defensive coordinator.

Crennel and his wife, Rosemary, stayed with Mangini and his wife, Julie, for about six months when the Crennels were having a home built after Romeo took the job as New England's defensive coordinator.

When Crennel was hired as Cleveland's coach, he wanted Mangini as his defensive coordinator but Mangini decided to take over Crennel's spot with the Patriots instead.

For the position of defensive coordinator, sources told Smith that Mangini will bring aboard Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, whose contract with Oakland also is up. Also that Mangini and Crennel discussed the possibility of Crennel returning to work with Mangini but decided it best to both go in a different direction.

Mangini will hire Jets quarterbacks coach Brian Daboll, whose contract is expiring, as his offensive coordinator, league sources told Smith.

Mangini was one of four candidates interviewed by Browns owner Randy Lerner, but the only one with NFL head coaching experience -- a prerequisite for Lerner, who also spoke with New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and Browns defensive coordinator Mel Tucker.

Mangini was fired by the Jets one day after the club finished a disastrous stretch where they lost to Denver, San Francisco and Seattle -- three non-playoff teams -- in the final month behind 39-year-old quarterback Brett Favre's failing arm and questionable play calling by Mangini.

Lerner fired Crennel the same morning Mangini was let go but he was unaware Mangini, who will be 38 on Jan. 19, was available when he met with reporters. Lerner, who has also been interviewing general manager candidates, wasted no time in going after Mangini and interviewed him the following night in the New York area.

Lerner was enamored with Mangini's potential and believed he would bring discipline to the underachieving Browns. During his interview, Mangini identified Baltimore player personnel director George Kokinis as his preference as GM.

Kokinis is expected to interview with Lerner on Sunday.

After Mangini inherited a 4-12 team and led the Jets to 10 wins in his first season, New York's tabloids dubbed him "Mangenius." But by the end of his tenure in the NFL's largest market, he was being called moody, dour and controlling and he took the fall for the team's stunning collapse.

The Jets spent more than $140 million in offseason additions and traded for Favre, a move Mangini didn't favor but was forced to accept.

Jets running back Leon Washington said in an e-mail to The Associated Press that he was pleased to see Mangini land another head coaching job.

"I am really happy for Coach Mangini," Washington said in the e-mail. "I learned so much from him while he had his tenure with the Jets. His hardworking, selfless and competitive approach really helped me...The Browns got themselves a really good coach."

Mangini takes over a Browns team with more talent than Crennel had when he arrived in 2005. Cleveland entered 2008 with high expectations after going 10-6 last year. But beginning with a training camp injury to wide receiver Braylon Edward, who cut his foot while running in his socks after practice, the season unraveled quickly.

The Browns blew back-to-back home games in a five-day span and finished the season 4-12 without scoring an offensive touchdown in their final six games. On the way to their fifth season of at least 10 losses in the past six years, the Browns changed quarterbacks, benching Pro Bowler Derek Anderson in favor of Brady Quinn.

Lerner fired GM Phil Savage following a 31-0 loss at Pittsburgh. He then interviewed Scott Pioli, New England's highly regarded director of player personnel, and had hoped to pair him with Mangini in Cleveland. The two began their pro careers together with the Browns, but their relationship may have been strained when Mangini reported the Patriots to the NFL for videotaping New York's defensive signals during a game.

Information from ESPN.com's Michael Smith and The Associated Press was used in this report.


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ESPN is reporting that Mangini is expected to hire that Dabollo guy as OC and Rob Ryan as DC

I LOVE the Rob Ryan move. I am feeling pretty good about this right now.




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When Crennel was hired as Cleveland's coach, he wanted Mangini as his defensive coordinator but Mangini decided to take over Crennel's spot with the Patriots instead.

For the position of defensive coordinator, sources told Smith that Mangini will bring aboard Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, whose contract with Oakland also is up. Also that Mangini and Crennel discussed the possibility of Crennel returning to work with Mangini but decided it best to both go in a different direction. AFC North blog

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Mangini will hire Jets quarterbacks coach Brian Daboll, whose contract is expiring, as his offensive coordinator, league sources told Smith.

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On a side note, just to throw a little fuel to the fire, apparently Donovan said that one of the reasons Mangini was hired is because he told Lerner "I can win with Brady Quinn" in his interview.


This was the first thing I thought of. Lerner loves Quinn, and I was going to say in a previous post that I hope he doesn't put conditions on them. Hopefully, Mangini just puts the best football players on the field, regardless of name. That's all we can ask for. Maybe he does a sit down with some players, and finds out what they think.


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Rob Ryan as our d- coordinator. I think I like that, he has knowledge of the 3-4 I believe.

Little late on the Espn report I see.

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I'm a little concerned about this Daboll guy considering he has no previous experience as an OC, but he has done a great job with the receivers at NE and NY, so hopefully this is a natural move for him. I really would have liked us to look at OC's with experience and success at that level. I actually would have been ok with Chud keeping that role as well.




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Ryan has the chops for it and I love the aggressive personality at DC but man, his defenses have been putrid over the past few years. Hopefully a lot of that blame can be put on how bad Oakland's offense has been or the fact that he's better at a 3-4 set.


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"Although Heckert does not have final say over the 53-man roster, with that power held by coach Andy Reid, he seems more qualified than Kokinis. But lining up a possible interview with Heckert may only be a fall-back plan by Lerner if his session with Kokinis does not go well or if Lerner does not want to give Mangini the luxury of selecting his own general manager. "
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at this point I feel that most of us are willing to give Mangini a chance....However , IMHO it would be a Critical Error to hire Kokinis as GM given his lack of experience as a GM in the NFL....Experience is the key to success Not Inexperience.....Do you think I am putting to much emphasis on the Experience issue ?....


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I'm a little concerned about this Daboll guy considering he has no previous experience as an OC, but he has done a great job with the receivers at NE and NY, so hopefully this is a natural move for him. I really would have liked us to look at OC's with experience and success at that level. I actually would have been ok with Chud keeping that role as well.




Daboll is a bright offensive mind and Bellicheck was pretty upset Manginin took the guy to the Jets. He worked under Charlie Weiss so this should have some benfit to Brady Quinn.

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Mangini - "We can win with Brady Quinn" That has a nice ring to it. T-shirt idea?

I am happy with the hire. I think Crennel lost games for us as HC. Even if Mangini isnt Man Genius he has to be better than Crennel, so the Browns are instantly better. If I were Lerner, I would have Mangini chose the GM he wants to work with. Mangini knows more about football than Lerner so let him pick somebody he likes.

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