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see my above post, Daman, it appears that 32 year old Raheem Morris, their once DB coach, recently promoted to coordinator when Kiffin stepped down, is their new head coach.
so, yeah, they had someone in mind . . . interesting . . . .
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Imagine how nuts this board would be if Lerner had announced that Cory Undlin was our new HC!
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Wow, this is a crazy move by the bucs. It seemed like they had solidified some things this year and just collapsed at the end- i thought the future was bright for them next year.
This is a similiar head scratcher as the Jets firing Mangini. Collapse at the end and no playoffs leading to a knee jerk reaction to can the coach. I am still pleased with the Mangini hiring- i like him much more then Gruden.
As mentioned above, i can see Gruden landing with the jets. I'm sure the rams just contacted him as well. Even the chiefs might have to think twice now about what direction to go. He will not be unemployed for long, of course with several years remaining on his contract- he might decide to lounge around next year.
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Thanks Michelle, I hadn't seen it. I tried to edit the post above, but for some reason I can't. I'm sure the refs can adjust it as they need to.
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Yeah, that and the sudden andöunexpected firing of Shanahan.... Head Scratchers for sure.
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They say Morris is a high-riser in the mold of a mike tomlin. in fact the two worked together in tampa. people around the league knew it was a matter of time before morris landed a head coaching job. It was reported Morris had a great interview with Denver owner Pat Bowlen.
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j/c I'm not sure what I think about Gruden...... I think I need to go look up the stats on how successful coaches are in their 3rd stint before I can make a decision. 
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This is a similiar head scratcher as the Jets firing Mangini.
Yeah, that and the sudden and unexpected firing of Shanahan.... Head Scratchers for sure.
It's a conspiracy by these owners,....  No it ain't, collusion only occurs in baseball.
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It's worth noting that Gruden got the Raiders to the Super Bowl, so his resume is rather sharp.
Toad...and given the time, Dungy took another team to the Super Bowl and won.
Dungy brought a defense to the Colts, which was what they were lacking, just as offense was what the Bucs were lacking.
But then again, the question wasn't about Dungy in Indy, it was about Gruden in Tampa.
So we're back to the fact that when a coach takes a team to the Super Bowl and wins, it's his team, not someone elses.
Tulsa, regarding Switzer, it was his team. The players were in place, but he still had to be head coach of the team. If he didn't matter, then head coaches don't matter.
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It's worth noting that Gruden got the Raiders to the Super Bowl, so his resume is rather sharp.
Toad...and given the time, Dungy took another team to the Super Bowl and won.
Dungy brought a defense to the Colts, which was what they were lacking, just as offense was what the Bucs were lacking.
But then again, the question wasn't about Dungy in Indy, it was about Gruden in Tampa.
So we're back to the fact that when a coach takes a team to the Super Bowl and wins, it's his team, not someone elses.
Tulsa, regarding Switzer, it was his team. The players were in place, but he still had to be head coach of the team. If he didn't matter, then head coaches don't matter.
Then when did Gruden take the Raiders to the SB?
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He didn't. He left to go be the Bucs HC a year before the Raiders made the SB........and lost badly to Chuck's Bucs...lol.
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Oh yeah. Duh.
Then it was his team he beat *L*
I was thinking of the Championship game where they got screwed by the Tuck Rule.
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Then it was his team he beat *L*
I was thinking of the Championship game where they got screwed by the Tuck Rule.
Now how can it be his team he beat if it wasn't Dungy's team he took? 
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I just said the same thing. In fact when Romeo was canned I posted that I had hoped Gruden would get fired so we could grab him.
Damn......ya can't win for losin'...... 
Not me, Ill pass on Gruden. The one thing imo that has kept him from being a great coach is his inability to deal with his QBs and commit. He switches back and forth like they are dirty laundry. Thats the last thing we need here.
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Im not sure why people say he cant commit to a QB. He went with Gannon in Oakland.
When he got to Tampa he went with Simms, then Griese, and since then as long as Garcia was healthy he was the QB. He stockpiled them yes, and couldnt decide on a 2nd stringer, but its been Garcia as long as hes been healthy
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He's tried to replace Garcia a couple of times, and only Garcia's play kept him under center.
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Your forgetting a few though. Quote:
During Gruden's tenure the Buccaneers have gone through many starting quarterbacks. Brad Johnson, Shaun King, Rob Johnson, Chris Simms, Bruce Gradkowski, Tim Rattay, Griese, Garcia, and McCown have all started at least one game for Gruden since 2002.
http://www.pewterreport.com/articles/view/5059
I didnt think Brad Johnson should have lost his job, the same for Griese, the same for Simms. Gruden is way to harsh with his QBs, to me anyway. True Johnson was old, but I thought both Griese and Simms had potential to win a lot of games in Tampa, and his benching of Garcia this year for no apparent reason.
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"Just talking, but Gruden didn't take Dungy's team to the Super Bowl. Gruden took his own team to the Super Bowl."
Thats a weird assessment especially when Gruden took that team to the SB just the very next year and build nothing. Also surprised you slammed Dungy inheriting the Offense...which wasn't complete...but on the other side...lol  ALL THE TAMPA Glory was around their D not their Offense. And when I mean ALL I mean ALL
Just a little food from thought for those pining for Gruden to be here instead of Mangini as the right guy to build something...  fartheset from the truth but don't ask me...read Lombardi, somebody very knowledgeable and respected.
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FROM MICHAEL LOMBARDI:
17 January 2009
“The Curious Case of Why Jon Gruden was Fired”….
“Love you Bro” has been a familiar refrain here at the Post and on my old site when referring to Tampa Bay’s former head coach, Jon Gruden. The nickname is intended to poke a little fun at Gruden because no matter how long he has known someone or how much he might dislike a person, he always ends the conversation with “Love you, Bro.”
I first met Jon in 1997 when I was with the Eagles. I found him to be bright, energetic, and passionate, devoted to football, and someone I wanted to learn from and exchange ideas with. You could see he was going to be a head coach one day, and with his intelligence and fire, he would be great head coach. He would work his tail off at practice, devote hours to watching film and could communicate his message to the players in a unique style. He was fun to work with and fun to watch coach.
When I joined him in Oakland, I learned more about him as a person and coach. What came to the forefront was that Jon is never happy. He can never love his players — especially his quarterback. Jon always wants new, even when new is not necessarily better. He was instrumental in returning the Raiders to their glory days with the help of some key players, notably Rich Gannon, then went off to Tampa to have all the power and ability to run his own show. That’s where his downfall started.
In Tampa, his record is slightly above .500 (57-55). He’s a great sound bite for NFL Films, which has done a great job promoting the legend of Jon Gruden. The won-loss record doesn’t tell the whole story – it’s just numbers. Nevertheless, when you look at the core of the team, the foundation, Jon’s inability to truly “Love You, Bro” prevents him from being successful. He does not want to fall in love with any one player, and he is very hard on the players. (I promise you, Michael Clayton’s quotes were just the ones on the record; there were many similar to his that were off the record.)
I once referred to Gruden as the Larry Brown of the NFL. I meant that as a compliment because I love Brown, but when Brown, the well-traveled NBA coach, has control of the personnel on a team, he makes horrible decisions and hates the players he coaches. He wants new, but after new is over, he wants more new. Does that sound familiar?
From Brad Johnson to Chris Simms to Brian Griese to Luke McCown to Jeff Garcia, there was never stability at quarterback, the one position that is vital to a franchise. In addition, this is the one position that Gruden can coach as well as anyone in the league. Yet his refusal to fall in love (I called him the Warren Beatty of quarterbacks coaches a while back in a column) with a quarterback was his downfall in Tampa Bay.
We have all read the reaction of the players on the record — some positive, some negative — but the one consistent theme when you’re talking about Gruden is that he loves football, but loves NO players. The negativity and the inconsistent message to the players never seemed to go over well. Gruden is the type of coach that needs to have consistent turnover in his roster. He needs new players every year and might be best suited for college football since graduation and the NFL draft promote the change he craves.
When Tampa hired Gruden, the one thing it had to expect was solid and consistent quarterback play for the franchise. In theory, Gruden could select a talented young player, develop him into the cornerstone of the franchise and enjoy consistent seasons challenging for the Super Bowl. However, this is all theory, as Gruden on his own will never fall in love with one player at the position.
Unless the front office or the owner refuses to submit to his constant change, no development will take place. He is incapable of falling in love with anyone. Love you bro he don’t.
Well call me crazy  but I'm happy right where we are at and thank goodness some of you don't own our team  Randy is doing just fine  JMHO
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No offense to you eo, but I don't think Randy is doing just fine. I think he's doing better, but not great. When our team gets to the level of his across the pond futbol team is, then we can go there.
If you think about it, you can switch out Gruden's name in that article for Randy, and replace any player's name with any of our former coaches and it fits pretty well.
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No offense to you eo, but I don't think Randy is doing just fine.
I think I understand what your saying Keys.... thus far under his control, the Browns haven't exactly done well... actually, except for one year, they've done awful.
But I do think (make that hope  ) that this latest regime change is cause for celebrations to come.
This time, he's done things differently.
For one, in the last set of hirings (savage and RAC) he really didn't know what he was doing. I can't believe that he had any feel for it whatsoever. So he took the advice of those he could get and just made some moves that on paper, looked pretty darn decent.
I think almost everyone would admit that RAC and Savage both appeared to be the right kinda guys to go forward with.
This time seems to have a aire of something different.. While he is clearly soliciting advice from some folks (accorsi for one) He's clearly not taking the path that almost all of us thought he would. That being, hire a GM, let him do the rest.
With these moves, he is really putting his footprint on this team.
The only question that remains... were the hires the right ones? Only time will tell, but I guess I"m just happy he didn't follow conventional wisdom and just did something different... I got my fingers crossed on this one....
But I do think Mangini might just be the right guy and the right time.. Koks,,, I just dunno!
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Pretty much exactly. I too am hoping that this pans out. But I gotta say I'm a bit skeptical of the Kokinis or however you spell it hire. Mangini, I can understand. I don't necessarily agree, but I'm damn happy that we have someone who was actually a head coach at the pro level before. Randy is a smart guy from everything I've read on him. But the Kokinis hire has me 
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"If you think about it, you can switch out Gruden's name in that article for Randy"
Sorry that statement was rather void of logic. There has not been one person, poster, writer or TV analyst that has remotely proven that Randy is not doing the best job possible. There are no Parity rules invoked in the British Soccer leagues as there is in the NFL. Money and attention receive their reward a lot faster.
But the thing about switching names...was - what word can I use without getting banned. illogical is about as soft soap as I can get.
And whats worse from what I consider a logical poster thats the most disappointing thing. I really don't get the Randy hate on the boards. Is everyone a closet Anti-Semitic? Sometimes with the void of logic its the only thing I can rationalize as the answer. I just don't get it.
Randy is in his 5th year as the owner...March will start his 6th.
Butch burnt out and was not good for us...good call by Randy.
He relied on Collins a lot but tried with 1 year experience to build a strong experience with HC n GM...but the team work was not there and the last couple of season had one hand veering away from the other and not working together. What was Randy to do? End it...which he did.
Now with 5 years of experience not 1 he has studied the business made an old family friend a strong confident, Ernie Accorsi and understood the missing voids of the RAC n Savage Regime. He understands there must be direction and there must be UNITY with the top football people involved.
There is a 3 prong Organization and Randy has realized this.
Business, headed by Keenan and McKracken our been counters.
Personnel, to be headed by Kokinis and his staff.
Head Coach, to be headed by Manginin and his staff.
All have to be on the same page in the football aspect of this. So the bean counters (business) guys are just tools actually for the other two heads.
Randy has spent money and yet posters call him UNWILLING TO SPEND THE MONEY???? Butch wasn't right...and he was willing to eat 20 mil of his own money. Savage worked out the extension and raise to RAC...then afterwards to himself. Randy obliged but when he saw the Chasm that was built there as all the power slowly went to Savage and less n less to RAC the result became chaotic.
Again Randy was able to eat the salaries if it wasn't good for the future of the Browns. Like anybody he had to learn...he has done just that in the last 5 years and has us more on track than a supposed Football Person like Carmen Policy did in his 6 years. There was a crossover with Carmen and Randy.
Better but not great...well actually that will get defined I guess 3-4 years from now.
How can anyone claim True Success or Failure from his decisions. I just have followed this process very close as probably most of us have. I have studied and read Ron Wolf's Book on building a franchise and I have the utmost respect for Ernie Accorsi and the help he has given Randy...gosh knows he has eaten at the finest NY Restaurants talking to Randy as Randy's guest...lol
Randy is doing his due diligence...so far all aspects are beginning to shape up and taking form. I print an article that pretty much dispells any one claiming that we didn't do due diligence in hiring Mangini when a "FIND"  like Gruden becomes available.
Then you come out and post that you can easily switch out Gruden and put in Randy and it fits perfectly...Prove it...where what and when. sorry but that was a Crapola statement if I ever read one.
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"Just talking, but Gruden didn't take Dungy's team to the Super Bowl. Gruden took his own team to the Super Bowl."
Thats a weird assessment especially when Gruden took that team to the SB just the very next year and build nothing.
Who's talking about what he built? I don't know what conversation you're talking about, but it's not the same one I was. Pay attention *L* If you want to talk about his legacy or his tenure then that's another conversation, and not one I was talking about.
Gruden did what he was brought to Tampa to do: Bring an offense and an attitude to a team that needed it. Mission accomplished, so it was his team that won it.
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Also surprised you slammed Dungy inheriting the Offense...which wasn't complete...
Did I slam Dungy, or are you imagining I slammed Dungy? Please, feel free to quote EXACTLY where I "slammed" Dungy.
I said he inherited an offense, which is what he did. Tom Moore and Manning built that offense. Dungy had very little to do with it. His job was to bring in a defense to put the team over the top. Mission accomplished, so it became his team.
Just because the defense was built by Dungy doesn't mean it wasn't Gruden's team, and just because the offense wasn't built by Dungy doesn't mean it wasn't Dungy's team.
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Dungy 2002: Offensive rank: 24th
Gruden 2003: Offensive rank: 10th
All that "glory" defense did nothing for winning a championship until Gruden installed an offense.
Until Dungy installed his defense in Indy, all the offense in the world wouldn't have won a Super Bowl.
So, again, each guy won the Super Bowl by bringing in the things they were good at. Because of that, they won with THEIR teams, not someone elses. What each coach brought put their team over the edge, so it was their team, not someone elses.
As for Gruden coming here.......HELL NO under any circumstances or under any conditions. He's a hot-head who's botched more QB situations than he's fixed, and is too much like Butch Davis in terms of players hating him because he's two-faced.
It's ironic that Butch Davis ruined our chances of having a successful Jeff Garcia when he promised Jeff he'd bring in Walsh and install a WCO, only to reneg on that promise. (Insert I told you so here *L*) So why's that ironic? Because Gruden has continously tried to bench Garcia, and everytime he did, the team would falter, so he'd have to go back to Garcia, who'd just go out and play well.
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I'm not particulary enamored with Magini at all, but I can't believe that anyone would want Chucky here at all, much less over Mangini.
For all of his media hype, he is not much of a success story. He's animated, he has fire and passion for the game and he spits almost as much as Cowher (ok, not really... nobody can do that), but I don't think that I would ever want him as the coach of my team.
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Good reply eo, and I thank you for the complement.
I'm not a Randy Lerner hater by any means. I actually like the guy. I think he's doing as best he can. But I don't necessarily like the results he's had. I don't think he was really prepared to take over when his dad passed away. Not that he can't do it, but because it was sudden.
Now I know there are those that can interview well and tell you all the right things that make you believe they can do the job. I've hired them myself. I've also had to fire them when they didn't do what they promised/projected/thought they could accomplish. The difference is my hirings aren't as public or under near as much scrutiny.
I'm not sure about others, but I certainly don't fault Randy for the money aspect. He's definitely eaten some very large salaries for the coaching moves he's made. He's never even squabbled at the salaries as far as I'm aware. Although I'm sure he has privately.
I wouldn't go so far as to say we could switch Randy's name easily, but there is a definite similarity with the article. You asked me to explain so I will, in the article, it speaks most about Gruden's inability to stick with one player, particularly at QB. Well, that's happened at most of the coaching positions and the GM position. First there was Butch (we both agree that was a bad move), then there was Collins, who didn't get along with Savage so one had to go and it was Collins. Now, two years removed (or is it one? i'm not sure) we are letting go of yet another GM in Savage to bring in yet another GM who doesn't have real world GM experience (Kolkinis). Will it be a good move? I don't know. I certainly hope so. I really, really really (REALLY) hope so. 30 years of watching my Browns and it's time that I start rubbing it in to the Steeler fans again.
Some of the folks are putting too much emphasis on Gruden's lack of stability at the QB spot. But look at those names, none of them are very good. Garcia is pretty much the best of that bunch. I would find more fault with his drafting (which I think the GM had more say in that, but I could be wrong), or his choice in coordinator for the Offense which was their weakness. They have the tools to succeed, but there was some bad calls there.
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"But I don't necessarily like the results he's had. I don't think he was really prepared to take over when his dad passed away. Not that he can't do it, but because it was sudden."
I don't think he liked the results either.
He was a new owner he is smart and dedicated that really is the only thing fans could really ask from an owner. He's never been cheap - he has had class and has treated the players well when they have had problems and injuries. Paying them over and above what was needed.
Look - I'd be worry if he was a jerk like Snyder or even an ego like Jones of Dallas...he's becoming the Al Davis of the new millenium. Or trying to Al got a lot of football props in his day.
The Steeler franchise under the Rooneys were the doormats to the NFL for how long...until Early to mid 70's
We don't have a kid like Paul Browns taking over.
And we are one of the few teams to have an owner that actually grew up a FAN of the team.
For me hiring and firing has been tough especially in the secretarial end...I get bamboozled a the interviews and believe everything....lol
But on a subject that I have studied and learned - I could tell. And now after 5 years Randy is a pretty smart guy and has studied the situation. You want to grade him as a owner from the group he put together ONE year in the ordeal???
Remember we had different ideals...we were trying to get out of EXPANSION PURGATORY. Now we are looking to take this further. So what was important in Randy's eyes then...now is much different. 4 more years of studying the Structure and Success as well as Failures. He has come into this with a pretty distinctive vision of what is needed.
I can't comment on his decision with finality either way positive or negative. But he seems to be doing it right.
To me that is "DUE DILIGENCE"
I'm happy cause he's not treating this like a business - it sort of has its own little world. I think he has been able to absorb himself into it a lot more especially after selling his company in 2006.
JMHO
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I hope he has done his due dilligence. I hope he has spoken with knowledgeable folks in the business like you pointed out. Accorsi has much respect from me. Hopefully he's spoken at length with him. I was hopeful when we had Wolfe on the advice payroll, that didn't work (and NOT because of Randy, that was a whole different screwup), but maybe he's met some folks that are teaching him.
I'm not gonna run him outta town. I just hope he's done a bit more diligence in his search than in past years. It seemed too quick for me. It seemed hurried. Nothing would please me more than to say that Kokinis is a phenomenal GM and Mangini turned out to be the Mangenius. I have my reservations. I am a bit skeptical considering the past performance is all I'm saying I guess.
I'm not in Ohio, so the info I've gotten is mostly through this board. Perhaps you've seen more than I, or have different info on the search. I truly hope he's done what you say. If so, I'll be the first to buy you a round and toast the champs!
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"so the info I've gotten is mostly through this board. Perhaps you've seen more than I, or have different info on the search."
Only that I'm from the NY area and I have heard about frequent meetings with Accorsi.
Its just a Coincidence that one of my best friends - Lives in the Hamptons (summers), Lives in London in the Winter. Made his claim to fame heading Merryl Lynch in London during the same time Randy made his mark with the parallel position. Both my friend and Randy are real into the British Futbol scene as well as American Football (although my friend who comes here in the summer gets more involved with baseball). The coincidences are remarkable.
But he ignores me (my friend) when I beg him to get us together for dinner out in the Hamptons when I visit... 
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Quote:
Coach Jon Gruden’s firing last week came as a surprise to those around the league. Gruden has a statue — for crying out loud– following Tampa Bay’s win over the Raiders in Super Bowl XXXVII. So the firing, despite the team’s December collapse, seemed like a surprise. Unless you played for him, of course.
Quarterback Jeff Garcia, a change needed to be made. Garcia opened up on his relationship with Gruden to the St. Petersburg Times.
Garcia, addressing last week’s firing of Jon Gruden said the Bucs “needed the change” and believes the coach’s poor relationship with players played a key role in his dismissal.
The quarterback had a long-running feud with Gruden and general manager Bruce Allen stemming from the team’s preseason courtship with Brett Favre and its reluctance to renegotiate his contract last summer. And it was long believed Garcia’s two-year relationship with Gruden had deteriorated.
“I know for me, personally, going through that with him was a very difficult time, disappointing time … But the one thing that I always tried to look back on or reflect on was that I wasn’t the first and I won’t be the last. If it continues to be this way with players, it is going to get to a point where somebody who is above or in control will say, ‘Enough is enough.’ I think that’s what it got to.”
And Garcia certainly was not alone. Running back Earnest Graham also told the St. Petersburg Times that he “felt it was time” for a change. Via BucStats:
“Cause definitely, in the locker room there was definitely some separation in there,” Graham said. “Definitely some guys had their issues. If you don’t have all guys on the same page in this league, you’re gonna find out on the field, It’s going to show up.”
“He’s got our love, man. Lot of guys in the locker room love (him). He speaks to us on the regular during team meetings, times when we’re down, he gives a speech and he’s always around, an animated guy, liked real well, does real well with the guys. Everybody was rooting for him.”
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