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"A group of writers were sitting around the other night doing what we do best before a Cavaliers game — eating. While munching and waiting for one of the NBA’s best teams to take the floor, what do you suppose the conversation turned to?"
And this is how they work...eating, BSing with each other. And guess what the conversation was about? Their MEAL TICKET the Browns and how the Browns organization actually have the audacity to now sit down all....WORK FOR A LIVING! 
Thats right - These guys had the easy life. We would give a presser at least once a week. And then the entire Journalist Family would Regurgitate what was said at that presser and put their little spin into it sometimes and dress it up...but it was Copy.
Now that has stopped and they are MAD!! 
So they got together and all decided to make their Rants into columns so to try to get the FO to finally open up and bring their easy life back.
Sure would be nice if they actually worked and found out about the organization that is coming. I don't see them hounding Cribbs for a story on the new Organization...Adams? both have spoken out in radio I believe? And all good.
But nah...these Bozo's don't want to work. They want to go to weekly pressers and all right about the same things. None getting ahead...none getting behind the other. Sort of colusion  These guys wouldn't survive in a big market area where the news isn't spoon fed to them. Sometimes you got to get off your butt and go find the news!
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It is kinda stupid isn't it..
Hey, I'm a Browns fan,, you can't give me too much news about the team.. I wanna know something new everyday... I'm hungry for info.., I admit it.
BUT, I'm not an idiot,, I know this is the slow time for worthy news to come out of an NFL Team..
In years gone by, with Savage and RAC, they would have pressers on a regular basis. Savage was on the Radio every thursday morning with Bill Wills on WKNR or WTAM...One of them.
So we were very used to getting info, no matter how drab or unimportant it really was.. we got something to chew on.
This new regime doesn't seem to feel it's necessary to offer up anything.. no matter it's importance or lack thereof.. I'm perfectly ok with it. But recognize it for what it is... They apparently don't feel they have anything important to say,,, so they say nothing.... again, I'm perfectly OK with that.
These reporters are all taking a stance that if they won't talk to us, then let's take anything we hear, put a negative spin on it and hope they respond....
Good reporters don't do that. They take extra effort to find something else to discuss... Rather than twist NO NEWS into BAD NEWS..
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... " The media is grasping at straws, "
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"This new regime doesn't seem to feel it's necessary to offer up anything."
I don't even think that's the case. Come this time next year I betcha they feed these bozo's mundane news on a weekly basis. It just so happens that right now they are the Midst of burning the midnight oil trying to put their team in place. Its like...News, you want news, go work for it. We are so busy we don't have time to do YOUR JOB for you. Besides we are not finished in our process and don't want several other teams who also are building to get wind of what we are doing and jump the gun on us!
Next year it will be built and a little more relaxed and open.
As long as Mangini and Kokinis didn't go to the Carribean and are playing golf and relaxing...I'm fine with them busting their humps here doing their work!
Media...when they are done they will open up the doors.
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Ahh,, Eo.. aren't we kinda saying the same thing? 
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I wish I could be a fly on the wall while they're breaking down film.
Pssst ...Here's what they're saying over and over," Man this guy sucks I can't believe this is a pro team." 
No, it's more like this...
Mangini - "Ok this play is 3rd and goal and an obvious passing down, pay attention to Winslow."
Daboll - "Uh, he's not on the field."
Mangini - "We need to get a grasp on this Wimbley guy, where is he lined up on this play?"
Ryan - "Same place he is on every other play."
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My take on this article is Todd Porter has been told recently, or is afraid of being told soon, that he sucks as a writer and will be out of a job soon.
Therefore, this Todd Porter felt justified in crucifying the entire Browns organization.
It is obvious, after all. I mean, if you write an article like this, you obviously have no hope or desire to continue being a writer that covers the Browns.
If I were Mangini, I'd forbid any player to talk to this Todd Porter guy. I'd also call the paper and explain to them that Todd's credentials had been cancelled.
Why? Because apparently Todd is pissed that he can't get info like he used to, so he threw not only the brand new head coach, not only the brand new GM, under the bus - when they haven't had time to do anything, but he threw the whole organization under the bus.
Unemployment is a blast Todd Porter. Hope you enjoy it.
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yeah i agree with you...this guys should lose his rights to be a reporter and be at the pressers, and locker rooms. Id put the whole media on notice that if you want to write false stories and badmouth our team them you can take your lil notebook and go somewhere else !
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I like that they are not telling them anything. That means they are busy catching up. There was time missed and they got to catch up. They are dealing with a roster that they don't know real well. I hope we don't hear anything out of them until FA and the draft. I want them busting their butts evaluating this team.
As for the coach not making friends, if they aren't talking to the press, how does the press know thety are not making friends?
This writer sounds like a little kid. Maybe he should try to understand where his subjects priorities lie at this time, I'm sure it would be a much more informing article. Journalism nowadays is a joke. The basis of it has always been ..who, what, where, when, how, and why......today it is opinion, whether in sports or politics, facts are just an annoyance to them and get in the way of their opinion.
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Gini and Coke (and the assts.) have been going poring over game film from last season and evaluating players. They have been watching film of FAs coming on the market. They have been watching film and poring over scouting reports of players in the draft. There's nothing to report at this point.
IMPOSSIBLE B ... absolutely impossible ... why U may ask?? .. cause most of the people your defending in this thread ASSURED ME (after ripping me and telling me how big of a dolt i was) that Jeaanie and Coke ALL READY KNEW OUR TEAM and all ready knew all about the FA's for the upcoming year ...
U see I said this puts us behind for this years FA's and drafts cause Jeannie and coke and the new staff would be POURING OVER FILM cause the first step of the proccess was LEARNING OUR TEAM ... some said it was as simple as JUST PASSING A FILE ... now U say different ... NAAAA ... CAN'T BE TRUE ... cause they just got through telling me how dumb I was for over reacting and being negaitve ... (when in fact I said it was not the end of the world and it would only set us behind for this year .... AND it was OK cause we did the right thing getting rid of RAC and the only reason i said it was cause some acted like it was NO BIG DEAL AT ALL and we were not behind .. U know .. just blowing it off as no big deal) ..
Now there all saying Ya ... the new guys are to busy to talk to the media cause there doing EXACTLY WHAT I SAID THEY'D BE DOING and got ripped for ... U gotta love this place and the honeymoon ..
and I agree with everything U said ... and the new guys are doing the right thing .. WORKING THERE ASSES OFF TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP ... witch will never happen ... all they can do for this year . is GET AS CLOSE AS THEY CAN TO CAUGHT UP ...
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j/c, Diam....
This is a prime example of the absolute WORST type of journalism we fans are forced to digest. It's long on suggestion, innuendo and animus... and woefully short on facts or substance.
I'd have respected this "reporter" so much more if he'd simply filled his column space with words like this: "It's a slow time of year, folks- so I'll give you what I have. I went to a public function and saw Eric Mangini and Shaun Rogers in the same place."
(in my best John Belushi imitation]
BUT, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO... this discwad had to inject his own personal sense of hurt and vengeance, and concoct a vitriol-laced column that:
served no informative purpose,
vented his anger, and
spited the entire organization...
all to get some sillyass crap off his chest, and his editor off his back.
Absolutely pathetic.
I dated and spurned girls in Junior High who behaved with more maturity than this talent-deprived hack. If any Dawg on this board believes even a fraction of this tripe for anything other than what it is... the spewing-forth of a "woman scorned," I suggest you do the following:
Give up being a Browns fan, and channel-lock your TV onto the Lifetime Network. At least there, you'll automatically know that any Human Being with a real pair is a "Bad Guy." It'll allow you to run your entire life on pure emotion, and totally wipe out the need for rational thought.
You should be ecstatic... and it will save you years of expensive hormone treatments and months of searing post-op pain.
Mangini, Kokinis... even Randy aren't saying anything, because there simply isn't anything to say right now.
Deal with it- instead of letting your 4 functioning brain cells run wild, and concocting all sorts of conspiracy theories to support this arsehole's (unfounded) assertions.
GET A GRIP!!! CAN'T YOU SEE THAT YOU'RE BEING MANIPULATED???
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In general who gives a back door push what the writers think.
Who cares if the writers buy in, or are all in, who cares if the fans are all in or drink the kool ade, what's important is do the players buy in, and does the product on the field represent what we all want, a winner.
I realise that just like in NE, and just like Gini in NY, these guys run a tight ship. Whats important is can we win games with the combo of Coke and Gini, everything else is just window dressing from my POV.
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I appreciated the chance to read the article. Nothing newsworthy, but when it comes to football at this time of year this is about all I expect. While I don't care for the idea of taking down pictures of past Browns greats, what has burned me up is the team continues to pay tribute (on the sleeves of their uniforms) to the man who played part in transferring NFL football out of Cleveland to Baltimore. So the media has turned against Lerner, I really have no problem with that.
Now regarding Mangini, I wish the area writers would offer more about what his former players are saying about his departure from the Jets. Maybe they've done those stories and being out of town I've missed them. That they're not cutting the guy any slack is quite understandable. After reading over the years about the next coach coming in to be the messiah, that stuff has gotten rather old. Whether Mangini deserves it or not, lets face it, at this point he and the entire Browns organization are on thin ice.
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Posted February 4th, 2009 by Luke Chandler
It's not easy to be the new kid in town, but the treatment of head coach Eric Mangini has become absurd in less than one month.
His former staff members have started taking criticism of his overall planning. Star players aren't innocent in this matter either.
Mangini is not winning any popularity contests, per Todd Porter of the Canton Repository. Reading the article though, it seems that there is nothing more than Mangini walking past Shaun Rogers at a public function. Do we know if Mangini and Rogers had others plans to talk, or if the two then later spoke that night? The context is a bit to flaky for me to assume that Mangini hates his star nose tackle, as Porter does.
Taking Mangini's less than bubbly demeanor as a sure sign of failure is also a scary proposition. Bill Parcells was one of the toughest coaches to the media, but he won a great deal of ball games. Part of the appeal to a Parcells press conference was the possibility that he would destroy a reporter who asked a silly question. The cat and mouse was his appeal, but it always flew over best when his team was winning. If Mangini wins games, Mangini's press conferences will become more entertaining than negative.
The NFL has been full of tough personalities for coaches, which have now been immortalized by Coors Light commercials. Mangini is fairly tame compared to coaches like Chuck Knoll, but YouTube wasn't around 30 years ago. The Cleveland media, myself included, is agitated after a disappointing season, but taking out aggression on a coach who has barely picked out his office furniture is beyond wild. If his team fails, have at it. Until then, let the man coach. You never know, he might end up being a good guy.
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jc This report is dead-on accurate. I’ve talked to coaches who have been interviewed by the current Browns regime, and there is such a negative feeling already in the building that no one wants to face the season. Some of the new coaches are not excited about working for Mangini. Mangini needed to change as soon as he got the job, but his communication skills and his people skills, which came into question with the Jets, are now in question with the Browns. Mangini must change his approach and realize the NFL is about getting everyone to work for you, not against you. As the leader of the Browns, he has to be the one who is fair and balanced and able to inspire. He must realize what hurt him in New York and work hard to improve those areas. He is at a critical juncture in his career. Rob Chudzinski is heading back to the Chargers to be their tight ends coach, a source at the Chargers confirmed to me last week. It must feel like he died and went to heaven. He makes a ton of money and gets a chance to repair his career and keeping learning his craft. Winning cures many and cures careers. http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/02/national-football-post-diner-news-91/I already have that sick feeling in my stomach....and I really don´t get the optimism around here. So much for Mangini learning from experience...the Mangini hire is debatable in it´s own right...but giving him so much power was just stupid, very stupid....yeah, I´m looking at you Mr. Lerner...from coddling HC to Nazi-HC....good luck with that
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I wish we could get some specifics from these people who feel the atmosphere is "miserable" or that there is such "negativity".
It's funny that so many people will gladly and eagerly accept reports that things are so terrible with the Browns, yet when someone says that things aren't that bad, they're "drinking the kool-aid" or wearing "orange colored glasses." You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Right now, we're getting comments from people who have either been fired or interviewed with the Browns but who weren't offered a job. Are these truly the people we want to opine on the status of the organization?
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Yes, that report MUST be true. I mean, he said it's dead on accurate! 
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Big difference between "so far behind they'll never catch up", which is the way YOU stated it. And "due dillegence". Hate to break it to you, but studying oposing teams personnel is what Cokes job has been all along. Even before he got here. So he's no stranger to our roster and talent as you make it seem. Are they being thorough? I'd say so. But it's not all the "doom and gloom" you seem to keep trying to project.
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Yes, that report MUST be true.
I mean, he said it's dead on accurate!
Peter King has reported this and now Lombardi....2 of the most credible sources out there...I wish I could be as naive as you guys...really
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I guess I missed Peter King saying it? And who were his sources?
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I guess I missed Peter King saying it? And who were his sources?
From the "advisor-fired" thread:
• IT'S MANGINIVILLE NOW, SCOTT. From Scott MacRaild, of Sagamore Hills, Ohio: "Thanks for your insight on the topics in the NFL. I bleed Brown and Orange and wanted to inquire if you feel the layoffs by the Browns front office has anything to do with the large salaries owed to Phil Savage and Romeo Crennel for years to come? Also, what other impact may this have as the Brownies move forward and prepare for 2009 and beyond?''
The layoffs were made, in part at least, to establish a one-voice organization by Eric Mangini, and to pave the way for new Mangini loyalists to enter the building. Randy Lerner is not making cutbacks because of the economy.
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I guess I missed Peter King saying it? And who were his sources?
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• IT'S MANGINIVILLE NOW, SCOTT. From Scott MacRaild, of Sagamore Hills, Ohio: "Thanks for your insight on the topics in the NFL. I bleed Brown and Orange and wanted to inquire if you feel the layoffs by the Browns front office has anything to do with the large salaries owed to Phil Savage and Romeo Crennel for years to come? Also, what other impact may this have as the Brownies move forward and prepare for 2009 and beyond?''
The layoffs were made, in part at least, to establish a one-voice organization by Eric Mangini, and to pave the way for new Mangini loyalists to enter the building. Randy Lerner is not making cutbacks because of the economy.
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The layoffs were made, in part at least, to establish a one-voice organization by Eric Mangini, and to pave the way for new Mangini loyalists to enter the building. Randy Lerner is not making cutbacks because of the economy.
Was that the whole quote? There wasn't more of King saying what a horrible decision it was and how the atmosphere is so terrible?
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OK, I'VE HAD ENOUGH...
Time for Browns fans to understand, "something is going on" between the media and the Browns.
Ever since the Browns plugged their leaking front office, the media has done nothing but target the Browns and Mangini.
I've been reading Grossi lately and he has nothing good to say about the Browns and when Mike Tomlin laughed at Cleveland...
When a reporter identified himself before posing a question at the traditional morning-after press conference on Monday, Tomlin chuckled.
"You from Cleveland? ... Hehehe," he said.
Yeah, we know.
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What did Grossi do after Tomlin dissed Cleveland...he wrote another article defending Tomlin writing this...
When Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin chuckled after a Cleveland reporter (hint: me) asked him a question the day after the Steelers' Super Bowl win, some Browns fans took offense.
They're directing their anger in the wrong direction.
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Now I read another article from the local media, Todd Porter, web page
with "un-named" sources claiming "stuff" and Porter's story is used by ex-Browns/Raiders GM, Mike Lombardi in his new gig as a make believe a journalist. Lombardi does not name one source for his negative comments either.
The media can be a very powerful force when used to undermine a person or even a football franchise. This negative crap coming from the media, with no sources, has a smell of sour grapes to it because Mangini, Kokinis and Lerner have shut them off. Lerner fired the guy that was their source of leaks for lord knows how long and now the media is using their platform to get back at the Browns...Grossi, Porter, Mike Lombardi are looking to damage the Browns, IMO, in an attempt to gain more access.
It's about time Browns fans realize what is going on and call the media out.
If the media is on the up and up, then name those sources you claim are giving you this inside info. If the reporters can't name their sources, chances are, they are just making "stuff" up...jmho
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I agree Mac. I've made it a point to comment on their blogs, etc. And, I have to say, I have seen a lot of comments that are similar to mine. Certainly, there are others that have the opposite opinion, which is fine. But, I'm seeing a lot of fans that aren't buying into what the media is telling them.
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We can all listen to Mangini speak TODAY...
Press Conference Live @ 2:00PM
Listen to it on WTAM 1100...http://www.wtam.com/main.html
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Don't waste your time bro .... and thats all it is .... a waste of time ... folks wanna believe that things are A OK and that jeannie has changed .... EVEN THOUGH THERES NO EVIDENCE OF THAT .... NOT ONE SHREAD OF EVIDENCE ..... U have King and Lombardi and they have THERE HEARTS .. look at the BS Pit spews about us not being behind and BEING ABLE TO CATCH UP ... that and his lie about me being doom and gloom ... how can U deal with people like that .... U may as well let them dwell in there own ignorance .. cause there just going to go continue the honeymoon on never never land when its all said and done .. cause its easier ... and I have no clue what is true or not ... the one thing that makes sense to me (and sumptin all the CLUELESS HOMERS overlooked in there zealous YET BASELESS DEFENSE of Jeannie) is why are these coaches taking jobs to work for Jeannie if there not looking forward to it?? that makes no sense to me ... NONE WHAT SO EVER .... the mindset your dealing with is that of folks like Pit .. who appearantly does not understand that every minute that Coke and Jeannie and the rest of the staff are being THOUROUGH and doing there jobs are minutes and days that other teams are LOOKING TO THE FUTURE and not doing SELF EVALUATION ... so they CONTINUE TO GET FURTHER AHEAD ..... and no matter what we can NEVER EVER GET THAT TIME BACK ... its MIND BOGGLING TO ME ... its such an easy concept that they REFUSE TO GRASP ... appearantly Pit does not even understand basic "time" concepts ... either that or he feels that other teams are just playing poker or puter games waiting for our guys to catch up ... Yo Pit ... EVERY REGIME in the history of the league has said the first year they took over they were BEHIND and NEVER GET CAUGHT UP as far as evaluating there team and the upcoming FA's and draft prospects ... but not ours .... at least not according to U and most on here ... we'll start calling U the "File Passing" crew ... *LOL* ... OH Damm my mistake .... your right ... I forgot about the Orange helmet syndrome .. when someone comes to us THEY AUTOMATICALLY GET BETTER cause of the helmet color ...
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why are these coaches taking jobs to work for Jeannie if there not looking forward to it?? that makes no sense to me ... NONE WHAT SO EVER .
No doubt...NONE...
BTW...U asked me if I'd be surprised if they named Anderson the QB in another thread...
Answer???...SHOCKED...But it don't mean another team wouldn't want him as #1...
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look at the BS Pit spews about us not being behind and BEING ABLE TO CATCH UP ... that and his lie about me being doom and gloom ... how can U deal with people like that .... U may as well let them dwell in there own ignorance ..
Here's how ya do it Diam.
You degrade them and belittle them so in some sort of innane way you believe that bolsters your "opinion" over there's. Hell you've been doing that for years. And now you ask how to do it?
You do it the most back-handed way you can. A Diam tradition.
But your act is starting to wear thin around here. And I'm loving that!
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I don't buy what the media is selling me ... NEVER DO .. I read and then THINK ABOUT WHATS BEING SAID .... then draw my own conclusions ...
on the other hand I am not going to "be happy" and think all is honky dory cause folks like U are simply BLOWING SMOKE UP MY ASS .... U guys have NO IDEA whats going on and have NO ACTUAL INFO to base your "honeymoon" feelings on ....
the local hacks .. there so biased its amazing .. and they have an axe to grind .. they ALL READY STUNK at there jobs before the axe to grind ... so they were very UNCREDIBILE before this .... now amazingly enough there even less credible ...
but heres a news flash . guys like U and Pit and blue type man are JUST AS UNCREDIBLE .... u guys do the same EXACT THING THE MEDIA DOES ... yet its OK for U .... *LOL* ...
someone like Lombardi who I have read for awhile .... hes got a TON OF CREDIBILITY ... why is that?? cause hes given VERY GOOD INFO before and has freely admitted when he is wrong .. he gives CREDIT WHERE IT IS DUE even if its for sumptin he took the exact opposite ...
on this one ... i see NO REASON AT ALL for him to be making things up .. I have seen him be harsh on the browns for a year now .. and guess what .. EVERYTHING HE SAID ABOUT OUR ORG. WAS PROVEN RIGHT .. so I guess it just wasn't sour grapes ...
as for what he says now .. I have no clue .. it MAY BE TRUE ... I don't know .. but I do know that he did not use Grossi's article as his SOURCES I bet I know exactly what blue type man did and if U do not read Lombardi on a daily basis I can understand why blue type man ASSumes thats where he got his source from ...
the one thing that makes no sense to me is WHY WOULD ANY COACH TAKE A JOB FOR A GUY HE DOES NOT WANT TO WORK FOR??? ....
I'm going to try an approach that has worked for me for a long as time ... its an approach most of U are very unfamiliar with ... but u oughta try it .. I;LL WAIT AND SEE AND LET IT PLAY OUT before I crucify folks like Lombardi or just run around with my head up jeannie's ass like U all do ..
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I;LL WAIT AND SEE AND LET IT PLAY OUT before I crucify folks like Lombardi or just run around with my head up jeannie's ass like U all do ..
You aren't going to crucify Lombardi, but you are going to crucify Mangini? My lord...
And I don't remember ever saying that I'm buying into everything Mangini is selling. My approach is a "wait-and-see" approach. I have absolutely no reason right now to believe that he's as horrible as the media portrays him, just like I don't have any reason to believe that he's the greatest guy in the world. Why? Because I have yet to find anything that proves to me either way.
My opinion is that we can judge judge judge, but what matters most is the result on the field, WHICH WE HAVEN'T SEEN YET BECAUSE THE GUY HAS ONLY BEEN ON THE JOB ONLY A MONTH PLUS!
Like others have said, we haven't lost any players, we haven't gained any players, we haven't had a draft, NOTHING.
So, just like people shouldn't buy into Mangini hook-line-and-sinker, people shouldn't buy into the media blitz against him, either.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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Don't you need a body of evidence with which to give someone a trial? Guess not.................................
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but you are going to crucify Mangini? My lord...
get a grip dude .. hows about getting one of them and a clue ...
i have not said a word on jeannie other than he has QUESTIONS like anyone one else we could have hired ... guess to U thats crucyfing him?? .. well all righty then ...
and U run around defending the hell out of him .. but your "nuetral" ... OK dude ... maybe need to get the clue before u get the grip .. 
Pit ... back handed??? .. *LOL* ... Ya .. I'm pretty subtle also ....
a trial?? .. I have not said a negative word about him .. NOT ONE .. U and most on the other hand
guess I should forgive U all for not being able to proccess cognizant thoughts .... its kinda hard to breath with all your heads so far up his ass ...
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We can all listen to Mangini speak TODAY...
Press Conference Live @ 2:00PM
Listen to it on WTAM 1100...http://www.wtam.com/main.html
Would you mind giving us a breakdown of what is said? I'm at work and our computers are uber-slow.
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Did a certain poster from this board who attends OU send an email to Rizzo's show on WKNR this morning saying he thinks the media needs to give Mangini and Kokinis a chance to do their jobs before they nail them to the wall?
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.... its kinda hard to breath with all your heads so far up his ass ...
At least mine isn't up my own ass.
All I've really said is "there is reason for optimism". We need dicipline on this team. He brings that. We need structure and our players to be dedicated. He will demand that.
On everything else, the jury is still out. And much of the criticism is unfounded. Somehow you make something more out of that but are surprised when the tables are turned.
Who cares?
And that was Cokes job. To study Baltimores oposing teams. Which we do play twice a year. Are you trying to say he was innept at that job?
If not, he knows a great deal about our team upon his arrival. Not everything, but a LOT more than many who may have been hired to his position. Are you so blind you can't acknolledge that?
So yes, there's still things for him and Mangini to work out. Are they behind? I'd say yes. But as much as you seem to indicate? Not quite. But of course you say anyone who doesn't agree with Diam has their head up somebodies ass, or is a ( insert insult here )
Jr. High School BS. From somebody who claims to know it all. Quite unbecoming really. So carry on with your unsubstantiated blather and degrade anyone who disagrees with you. After all, thats your trademark!
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its kinda hard to breath with all your heads so far up his ass ...
If anyone would know, it would be you.
I've never said once that I'll follow Mangini no matter what. However, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves me wrong.
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you had a good run Hank.
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I've never said once that I'll follow Mangini no matter what. However, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves me wrong.
Thank you! I don't really know of anyone that has just jumped blindly on the Mangini bandwagon. Instead, most of us are just taking the "wait-and-see" approach. If Mangini and Kokinis screw up royally, we'll be mad. If they do a great job, we'll be happy.
But right now, there is nothing to base an opinion either way about them.
And, giving them the benefit of the doubt doesn't mean we'd follow them to the ends of the earth. It just means that until we have some hard evidence as to how this team performs on the field, it's tough to say one way or the other.
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And, giving them the benefit of the doubt doesn't mean we'd follow them to the ends of the earth. It just means that until we have some hard evidence as to how this team performs on the field, it's tough to say one way or the other.
Say it ain't so!
That's pretty much the general concensus from what I've been reading. I see some signs for optimism, but we don't have any evidence to base a true opinion on one way or the other yet.
But don't tell Diam.........
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