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Unfortunately for you, the rest of the NFL doesn't agree with that assessment, as he's still a top-10 pick.
Not yet,,, it could be predraft Hype.. Remember, everyone thought that Brady Quinn would be a top ten pick... in fact, it seemed as if the entire football world thought that..
So nothing is for sure,,,, YET.... But I think you and the league are right about him....
I believe that was more a function of the fact that nobody between 11 and 21 seemed to need to draft a QB ? It doesn't mean he WAS or WASN'T a top ten pick,...it just means he didn't get drafted there. I never thought he was a top ten "for sure," but if he had gotten picked there, then he was,...it's the proverbial Catch 22. He wasn't, so he isn't,...no big deal.
Now,...after the fact,...Edwards is not a Top Ten Pick, is he ?? I want The Kid to succeed--in Cleveland. That's all I really care about.
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Now,...after the fact,...Edwards is not a Top Ten Pick, is he ??
Absolutely. Find 10 safer draftees in the 2005 draft.
Here were the top 10 chosen, in order, in 2005, btw:
Alex Smith
Ronnie Brown
Braylon Edwards
Cedric Benson
Cadillac Williams
Pacman Jones
Troy Williamson
Antrel Rolle
Carlos Rogers
Mike Williams
Players that I'd have realistically drafted over Braylon: Demarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, Ronnie Brown (if we'd had a line at the time), Heath Miller maybe, and I'll add Roddy White in because, although I know very little about him, he put up back-to-back 1200+ yard seasons in the post-Vick Falcons era.
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Now,...after the fact,...Edwards is not a Top Ten Pick, is he ??
Absolutely. Find 10 safer draftees in the 2005 draft.
1 Alex Smith QB Utah San Francisco 49ers FIRED
2 Ronnie Brown RB Auburn Miami Dolphins
3 Braylon Edwards WR Michigan Cleveland Browns
4 Cedric Benson RB Texas Chicago Bears BUST
5 Cadillac Williams RB Auburn Tampa Bay Buccaneers DONE?
6 Pacman Jones CB West Virginia Tennessee Titans CRIMEWAVE
7 Troy Williamson WR South Carolina Minnesota Vikings BUST
8 Antrel Rolle DB Miami (Fla.) Arizona Cardinals
9 Carlos Rogers DB Auburn Washington Redskins
10 Mike Williams WR USC Detroit Lions BUST
What a pitiful Top 10.........
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Absolutely. Find 10 safer draftees in the 2005 draft.
While I agree with your point entirely I still thought I'd throw you the Top 10 Hindsight Picks:
11 DeMarcus Ware OLB Troy State Dallas Cowboys
12 Shawne Merriman OLB Maryland San Diego Chargers
24 Aaron Rodgers QB California Green Bay Packers
32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State New England Patriots
65 Frank Gore RB Miami (Fla.) San Francisco 49ers
74 Justin Tuck DE Notre Dame New York Giants
100 Nick Kaczur T Toledo New England Patriots
109 Marion Barber RB Minnesota Dallas Cowboys
110 Brandon Jacobs RB Southern Illinois New York Giants
130 Darren Sproles RB Kansas State San Diego Chargers
230 Matt Cassel QB USC New England Patriots
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Absolutely. Find 10 safer draftees in the 2005 draft.
While I agree with your point entirely I still thought I'd throw you the Top 10 Hindsight Picks:
11 DeMarcus Ware OLB Troy State Dallas Cowboys
12 Shawne Merriman OLB Maryland San Diego Chargers
24 Aaron Rodgers QB California Green Bay Packers
32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State New England Patriots
65 Frank Gore RB Miami (Fla.) San Francisco 49ers
74 Justin Tuck DE Notre Dame New York Giants
100 Nick Kaczur T Toledo New England Patriots
109 Marion Barber RB Minnesota Dallas Cowboys
110 Brandon Jacobs RB Southern Illinois New York Giants
130 Darren Sproles RB Kansas State San Diego Chargers
230 Matt Cassel QB USC New England Patriots
I agree with most of these. The jury is still out on Cassel and Rodgers, but both appear that they'll be solid pro QBs. We've seen how a QB can change his stripes from one season to the next, however...
Sproles works well in SD, but I think he'd be a poor fit for an AFC North team.
I've thought that the Pats' Oline has been overrated for a few years now, trumped up by Tom Brady's generally outstanding play. Look at how they were absolutely abused in the SB by the Giants' front seven as an example. Plus, Nick Kaczur has that whole drug scandal thing hanging over his head.
Ware and Merriman are no-brainers, pretty much. Barber, Gore, and Jacobs are all excellent RBs for their respective teams, obviously.
I guess part of what I was trying to say was that even though some of those guys played far above the norm for their drafted positions, there are reasons they weren't drafted in the first round, or on the first day in some cases.
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Absolutely. Find 10 safer draftees in the 2005 draft.
While I agree with your point entirely I still thought I'd throw you the Top 10 Hindsight Picks:
11 DeMarcus Ware OLB Troy State Dallas Cowboys
12 Shawne Merriman OLB Maryland San Diego Chargers
24 Aaron Rodgers QB California Green Bay Packers
32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State New England Patriots
65 Frank Gore RB Miami (Fla.) San Francisco 49ers
74 Justin Tuck DE Notre Dame New York Giants
100 Nick Kaczur T Toledo New England Patriots
109 Marion Barber RB Minnesota Dallas Cowboys
110 Brandon Jacobs RB Southern Illinois New York Giants
130 Darren Sproles RB Kansas State San Diego Chargers
230 Matt Cassel QB USC New England Patriots
Interesting that New England, New York Giants, San Diego, and Dallas have more than one guy on that list. Good drafting makes for regularly good teams. huh, who would've thought?
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For the DRAFT RB RD 2 crowd.... look at the quality of backs that can be had past round 2....
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"To date, he has not shown any remorse for those comments."
The ones you quoted???? The only real over the top statement was that about "resurrected" - obviously a lot took part to make that Offense exciting and garnish 10 wins not just his play...but the thought process wasn't off. Just a little too much "ME" in that segment.
I see absolutely nothing to show remorse. My goodness how rediculous.
Like he is to say I'm sorry for his family being cursed at as he goes to eat Dinner. He must show remorse for the embarassment to him when his parents visit they get harrassed?
Remorse cause the idiot OSU based Browns fans (not all but many) couldn't let go their hatred and welcome him. And showed the opposite class and ANTI-Fan Charisma and adoration that Browns players had received in the past making it one of the best franchises to play for. It was the fans that did it.
And here they spit on BE - he is to show remorse...sorry - I agree possibly he could turn the other cheek...AGAIN. But from day one...DAY ONE, first Training Camp open to the public...he was getting hate Calls like "GO BACK TO MICHIGAN" - This is a case of classless OSU fans that have put their OSU fandom ahead of being a Brown's fan. (not all but the ones who don't are silent so even if its 10% who did...they are the only ones making noise!)
Personally I'm disgusted here...and not from the actions of BE. Those OSU fans first and Browns fans somewhere in the mix are the ones who should show remorse and should be Ashamed of themselves.
Being a Browns player meant one thing in our HISTORY...and that was the respect he got from our fans were like NONE other (maybe Green Bay matched us). It is why so many made the Cleveland area their homes. These OSU fans many who were in their early teens or younger in 95 are the core of this mess.
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Say what you want Eo,, bottom line, saying things like that shows that he's a little immature at the very least.
I wonder if he's already setting the ground work to move on when it's time.
This is simple to me... if we can get value picks,, I'd trade about anyone on this team.. (except Joe thomas, eric Stienbach, DQ Jackson) Beyond that, depending on what I can get out of the deal, anyone else is fair game..
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Just put your self in his place. I know I wouldn't take that crap. You can Put on the smile  for so long. At some point pride does take over...immature or human nature?
All I know is this - BE will be Franchised Next year and dealt away. The ONLY way he stays here is if we make him the "HIGHEST" paid WR in the NFL. We do have a need for him this year and he should do well and improve his stock for a trade.
We could very well deal him now...I would love to get Smith, 2nd round pick and 5th. The kicker though is Smith...he's a very good WR. But without a broken in WR in return plus the picks...there will be no deal this year.
Hey I'm a little PO'd cause I wanted Merriman so bad...we took BE - he's now a Brown and he soon will not be. Cause of the CLASSLESS actions of few who simply don't know how to be a Brown's fan and really are not - they say they are but are not! Cause they showed that they were not.
You are going to have me judge the reactions of a young 20something year old and say his reactions are Immature. Hogwash. I know I'd probably be in jail from my reactions! And probably most on the board. Just cause he's a Millionaire doesn't make him less human. I am a little PO'd cause I didn't want him here in the first place...but he's here and if he leaves here...I want it to be the Best thing for the team as in Why he is going. But next year he will be gone cause of the sum total actions of a bunch of Classless fans who unfortunately in the minority represent themselves as BROWNS fans. I don't like that - it doesn't help the Browns...and too much of that and it will become very hard to get FA's here.
We want the opposite. We want players to think...Wow - Cleveland Browns, best fans in the world, great place to play! It once was.
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Maybe those players should produce then...
I don't want underachievers who are an embarrassment to the orange helmet.
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No offense Ammo, but there's a WHOLE LOT of players that have been MUCH MORE of a embarrassment to the Orange helmet than BE.
I don't see BE as an embarrassment at all honestly. Sure he didn't play up to expectations, but embarrassment? Go ask Plaxico about that.....or TO.....or Chad Ocho Cinco. He's not an embarrassment.
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I honestly believe he's very unhappy playing in Cleveland...jmho...mac
A team in turmoil year after year, basically labeled a perennial loser, a team that is mentioned often in the same topics as Detroit.
Who WOULD be happy playing in Cleveland? Outside of the fans of Cleveland, most people see Cleveland as a poor team, an easy win.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement for making your mark on the sport, and that's what all these guys want. They want a chance to have their name mentioned long after they retire, and the team we have right now, is not going to provide that.
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Hey I'm a little PO'd cause I wanted Merriman so bad...we took BE - he's now a Brown and he soon will not be. Cause of the CLASSLESS actions of few who simply don't know how to be a Brown's fan and really are not - they say they are but are not!
Am I reading this correctly? 
You're honestly blaming the fans for Edwards' desire to leave the Browns?
Only ONE person can blame Edwards for what he's going through: Braylon Edwards.
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Am I reading this correctly?
You're honestly blaming the fans for Edwards' desire to leave the Browns?
Only ONE person can blame Edwards for what he's going through: Braylon Edwards.
I hope you're not trying to justify vandalism, being insulted in public, and possibly having to fear for your safety. What has happened to him by the fans is enough to make anyone want to leave - including you if you care to be honest and put yourself in his shoes.
Edwards has helped make some of his own bed, but you really shouldn't make the ridiculous statement that he is solely responsible for wanting out - especially not after the documented incidents with fans. I don't care who you are - every single one of us would want out if something like that happened, including you.
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Well, since I don't live in Cleveland maybe I've missed some incidents between BE and the fans. I mean what are we talking about here? One time in a restaurant, 3 times, 20? I only know what I see mentioned in this thread which is fairly non-descriptive. Is this treatment a trend or an isolated incident?
Don't misunderstand me......no one should have to put up with being accosted by a stranger or strangers in public just because they are famous. On the other hand, this is the real world and to paraphrase, "Stuff Happens". I doubt this is the only city that has an occasional idiot approach a celebrity and make a fool of himself.
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From what I've heard (and this is just what I've heard), it's not only fans against BE, but also fans against his parents. That is taking it WAY too far. I'm sure he expects to get a certain amount of razzing from fans, but his parents should be off limits.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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Evidently I live in a bubble because unless they were together I wouldn't have a clue what Braylon's parents look like.
Has this been in the papers or on TV in Cleveland or is this just somebody told somebody who told somebody else? Because 4th hand information is almost worthless.
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You know, I don't know where the info came out. I'm sure someone will be able to point to something. It might have been BE saying it happened, which I don't know why he would make it up.
That being said, I agree with you. I wouldn't be able to pick out BE's parents from a lineup if they were the only ones in it.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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no one should have to put up with being accosted by a stranger or strangers in public just because they are famous.
It's 2009. Every celebrity deals with junk like this. Look what Britney Spears and Octo-Mom go thrÕugh. If he doesn't like being a celebrity he can quit and EVERYONE will very quickly forget who he is and what he looks like.
Until then he needs to man up or at the very least shut up.
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I hope you're not trying to justify vandalism, being insulted in public, and possibly having to fear for your safety.
If I were, I'd say it. 
What I AM saying is that such actions by the FEW aren't justification for anything.
Edwards isn't the first pro sports athlete to get harassed, and he won't be the last. Unfortunately for your side of the arguement, he made his bed LONG before all this crap happened.
Edwards created his own monster here. Does that mean it's OK for people to harass him and/or his parents? No, but that's not what caused this. If we're going to HONESTLY point the finger at who's most responsible here, the finger points at Edwards, because right or wrong, fans are going to be fans.
Simply put, Edwards wanted to be loved and respected before he earned it. When he acted like a punk, stated he'd start acting right then continued to act like a punk, this is what you see here.
There's no excuse for what the FEW fans have done to Edwards, just as there's no excuse for Edwards acting like he has.
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Let me ask this: If Joe Thomas went to Michigan, would we have treated him the same way? If we had drafted Jake Long, would the fans have treated him the same way? What about Tom Brady? Alan Branch? Lamarr Woodley?
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Have no idea where you are going with that in response to me. I don't get caught up in the "where the guy went to college" crap. It's just that - crap. Toad seems to think that Braylon is 100% responsible for the trouble he has found himself in. Just as with any situation in life, it's never 100% someone's fault - black and white. To suggest otherwise is being exaggeratory (I just made up a word).  That's the only point I was trying to make.
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If we're going to HONESTLY point the finger at who's most responsible here, the finger points at Edwards,
He's not saying BE is the only one responsible, he's saying BE is the most responsible.
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If we're going to HONESTLY point the finger at who's most responsible here, the finger points at Edwards,
He's not saying BE is the only one responsible, he's saying BE is the most responsible.
and I would agree with him.
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Well, since I don't live in Cleveland maybe I've missed some incidents between BE and the fans. I mean what are we talking about here? One time in a restaurant, 3 times, 20? I only know what I see mentioned in this thread which is fairly non-descriptive. Is this treatment a trend or an isolated incident?
Don't misunderstand me......no one should have to put up with being accosted by a stranger or strangers in public just because they are famous. On the other hand, this is the real world and to paraphrase, "Stuff Happens". I doubt this is the only city that has an occasional idiot approach a celebrity and make a fool of himself.
I've seen a local television advertisement that urged viewers to "don't drop the ball...like Braylon Edwards".
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Have no idea where you are going with that in response to me. I don't get caught up in the "where the guy went to college" crap. It's just that - crap.
Toad seems to think that Braylon is 100% responsible for the trouble he has found himself in. Just as with any situation in life, it's never 100% someone's fault - black and white. To suggest otherwise is being exaggeratory (I just made up a word).
That's the only point I was trying to make.
Fair enough. I thought you were in the he went to Michigan so we hate him crowd.
Let me ask you this though, not because I'm trying to argue or corner you, but why do you think the fans demonstrate adversity toward Braylon?
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If those bother BE that much, I've got a solution for him .... CATCH THE DANG BALL!!!!!! 
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Actually, now that I've thought about it some, I think it was a radio spot I heard on WKNR or WMMS. It was for a bank or investment firm. Regardless of who it was or what medium it was, its classless and in poor taste.
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Well, since I don't live in Cleveland maybe I've missed some incidents between BE and the fans. I mean what are we talking about here? One time in a restaurant, 3 times, 20? I only know what I see mentioned in this thread which is fairly non-descriptive. Is this treatment a trend or an isolated incident?
Don't misunderstand me......no one should have to put up with being accosted by a stranger or strangers in public just because they are famous. On the other hand, this is the real world and to paraphrase, "Stuff Happens". I doubt this is the only city that has an occasional idiot approach a celebrity and make a fool of himself.
I've seen a local television advertisement that urged viewers to "don't drop the ball...like Braylon Edwards".
LOL...really??
At any rate...I hope he is traded. I would rather have the picks.
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BUD SHAW'S SPORTS SPIN
Bud Shaw: Nobody cares where you came from Braylon ... just catch the ball
by Bud Shaw/Plain Dealer Columnist
Tuesday December 16, 2008, 2:27 PM
BEREA -- Flames dance all around Romeo Crennel. But somehow Braylon Edwards is the one still feeling martyred? How is that?
"It is what it is ... I've learned since being here that I'm very unappreciated. Not by the organization, just in the eyes of the fans and the city. Since Day One, I've been a marked man coming from Michigan. It's just gone that way."
The clip of Edwards' words aired on WTAM Tuesday morning. It surely smacked of something dug out of the archives from Edwards' first couple seasons. But no.
Another big Monday night performance, this one in Philadelphia, gave Edwards cause to explain how he's had to put so much negativity aside this year, too.
As cop-outs go, bringing up Michigan again, in December of 2008, is hard to beat. Isn't this the same guy who joined fans at the stadium in "Hang on Sloopy" last year when he was dropping an almost equal number of passes?
With the recent slow crawl of offense now in full-fledged retreat, believe me no one would enjoy a touchdown by Edwards less because he's from That School Up North. Nobody has mathematically squared his dropped passes this season because he played for Ohio State's chief rival. The muffs multiplied on their own.
Apparently he responded Monday to the suggestion that the Pro Bowl Braylon Edwards returned against the Eagles.
"I'm just to the point now that I'm playing football and I could care less about the fans and the media," Edwards said. "People are talking about trading me and the B-S that's going on with our team, and this season. I've got a job to do and my job is to catch the football."
Catching the football for 16 touchdowns last year overshadowed an equal number of dropped passes. His muffs have been more numerous and more spectacular this season. They've hurt worse (Baltimore) and only three touchdown passes offset them.
Not sure who's talked of trading him. Anyone in a rush to build the passing game around Donte Stallworth and Syndric Steptoe has a death wish.
The hilarious aspect of Edwards bringing up trade talk is that he's the one who brought it up in the past, telling both Sports Illustrated and Jim Rome he hated it here and all but wanted out after the 2006 season. Monday he said that he wants to stay in Cleveland and help turn the Browns around.
No one held the get-me-out-town talk against Edwards. Maybe that's because he didn't admit to feeling that way until after his terrific 2007 season when all this Michigan nonsense was seemingly put to rest.
Steve Everett played at Michigan. So did Aaron Shea. I don't remember anyone caring.
For the people who've now suffered seven seasons of double-digit losses since 1999, this is all about the Browns. Most can separate collegiate rivalries from the communal goal of seeing the Browns restored to a position of power in the NFL.
As Edwards said, his job is catching footballs. But there's a higher calling, too. He was a No. 3 overall draft pick. Great expectations come with that.
Once and for all, nobody cares where he came from. What's made him a "marked" man is his immaturity, not that he's a Michigan alum now sentenced to years of hard labor in front of unforgiving, unappreciative louts.
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Toad can defend himself, but I'll just point out one thing.
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If we're going to HONESTLY point the finger at who's most responsible here, the finger points at Edwards,
He's not saying BE is the only one responsible, he's saying BE is the most responsible.
I was going off of this quote of Toad's which seems to imply he is 100% responsible:
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Only ONE person can blame Edwards for what he's going through: Braylon Edwards.
Regardless, I'm just tired of people piling on the guy. Strangely enough, after the '07 season I was one of his biggest critics and basically stood alone on this board saying that he had too many drops and that they could become a problem in the future. I got piled on pretty good by the "everyone has drops" and "he makes up for it with spectacular catches" crowd. I kept saying that none of his drops had cost us a game yet but they could become a problem. And unfortunately, they did.
That crowd seems to be gone now because people swing pretty wildly here from one opinion to the next. This is a rather unforgiving crowd. Make one mistake and we want you gone. It's such a reactionary crowd. "I'd rather take the picks." Careful what you wish for. The guy we have can already ball and ball pretty good. Why don't we help him get his game straight instead of running him out of town? I hope that's the way Mangini and Co. are looking at it and not like the people on this board.
So I'm a critic too. It was painful to watch last year, and I got nervous everytime we threw him the ball. And I'm sure by the end of the year I probably even stated that I wanted him gone too. But I think it would be a big mistake. He is NOT a cancer. He's a kid with an immaturity problem who probably never had to earn respect a day in his life until he got to the NFL. But he seems like a hard worker and his heart seems like it is in the right place. He's the first guy to congratulate a teammate on a score. I believe he is a team player, and I believe he feels like chit over what happened last year. Combine that with his talent, and you make the decision to work with a guy like that. Not cut him loose.
Could we use the picks? Sure. But we are going to have more anyway when we move one of the QBs. And picks are just potential. Give me the guy that you know what you got that is capable of getting better versus potential.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I completely understand your position, although I recall several posters on here saying that BE dropped too many passes in 2007.
The main benefit of moving BE now is it's pretty much a forgone conclusion he will leave as soon as possible once he's a FA. IIRC, he's pretty much stated since day one in Cleveland that he didn't want to be here.
The only way we get anything for him next offseason is if he's tagged. The problem with that is what happens if he has another subpar season? He still has great trade value now, even after his season last year.
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Toad can defend himself, but I'll just point out one thing.
This comes from his post two posts above yours:
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If we're going to HONESTLY point the finger at who's most responsible here, the finger points at Edwards,
He's not saying BE is the only one responsible, he's saying BE is the most responsible.
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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Since Day One, I've been a marked man coming from Michigan. -Edwards
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Steve Everett played at Michigan. So did Aaron Shea. I don't remember anyone caring.
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The hilarious aspect of Edwards bringing up trade talk is that he's the one who brought it up in the past, telling both Sports Illustrated and Jim Rome he hated it here and all but wanted out after the 2006 season.
This isn't Picasso. This is paint by numbers.
Follow the bouncing ball to get to the truth...........
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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Bounce...."Leads the League....Bounce...in dropped passes...Bounce...along with TO...Bounce"  Go Brownies!!!!
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http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/04/ex-mate-braylon-wants-to-be-a.html Quote:
Ex-'mate: Braylon wants to be a Giant
Braylon Edwards hasn’t asked out of Cleveland (yet), but according to one of his former teammates the big receiver would “love” to play with the Giants this year.
That’s what ex-Browns tight end Kellen Winslow said today in an interview on The Sirius Blitz on Sirius NFL Radio, Winslow said he thinks Edwards’ days in Cleveland are numbered, and that if they are the receiver is hoping to be shipped to New York.
“For some reason I don’t (think he’ll play for the Browns in 2009),” Winslow said. “I know Braylon would love to go to New York. The Giants would fit him to the ‘T’ and he would have so much fun up there. I know he loves Cleveland but New York would be a great fit for him.”
Later in his conversation with hosts Adam Schein and Solomon Wilcots, Winslow said Edwards “would love it there. He’s a city guy and, yeah, I know he would love it there.”
The Giants, as you know asked the Browns about Edwards back at the scouting combine in February. They reportedly offered the second and fifth-round draft picks they got from New Orleans in the Jeremy Shockey trade. According to the same report, the Browns asked for receiver Steve Smith too, and the Giants countered with either Mario Manningham or Domenik Hixon, though team sources later insisted no players were mentioned in the talks.
The 26-year-old Edwards is 6-3, 215 and had 55 catches for 873 yards and three touchdowns last season. In 2008 he caught 80 passes for 1,289 yards and 16 touchdowns.
you had a good run Hank.
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Not that we needed any more proof that Edwards wants out, but there are posters who still believe Edwards wants to stay in Cleveland.
They were friends. They talked about this stuff. Winslow is to stOOpid to keep his mouth shut, which is good for those that want to get details out of him *L*
I'm not saying this from a personal level, as I don't care to see Burress go to the pokey, but I'd like to see him be.......er......ummm...........unavailable.........to the Giants this year, as that would make the Giants up their offer for Edwards.
We've started the make-over. Might as well continue with the face-lift. We've canned all of the folks that made Edwards the face of the franchise. Time to change the face
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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