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Obama blasts Bush adminstration on Katrina recovery By Mike Dorning Tribune national correspondent January 29, 2007, 1:58 PM CST NEW ORLEANS -- Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama blasted the Bush administration Monday for the slow pace of Hurricane Katrina recovery efforts and what he saw as a lack of urgency at the White House. "There is not a sense of urgency in this administration to get this done," said the Democratic senator from Illinois. "You get a sense that will has been lacking in the last several months." Obama, the nation's only African American senator, was in New Orleans for a field hearing conducted by the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. The devastation in New Orleans and slow response hit especially hard among the city's black residents, focusing attention on issues of poverty and racism. The hearing was the first held by the committee since Democrats gained control of the Senate. Monday's session—including a bus tour of still-devastated neighborhoods—followed criticism of President Bush for not mentioning Katrina recovery efforts in his State of the Union address last week. Obama echoed the criticism of the president's speech, noting that Bush had vowed just 17 months earlier to do "whatever it takes" to rebuild the city. But "17 months later, we heard not a single word, not one word in President Bush's State of the Union address," Obama said. "….Those of us who are concerned all across the country wonder if we're in danger of forgetting about New Orleans and that's shameful." Federal officials involved with rebuilding efforts defended their work in testimony before the Senate committee. Donald Powell, federal coordinator for Gulf Coast reconstruction for the Department of Homeland Security, said he was confident that when the history of the recovery effort is written "it will also be a story of modern renaissance." "President Bush is committed to rebuilding the Gulf Coast and rebuilding it better and stronger," Powell added. Gil Jamieson, the deputy director for gulf coast recovery for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said that it might take as long as a decade to rebuild the region. Sen, Mary Landrieu (D-La.) and others criticized the administration for failing to waive a legal requirement that local authorities pay 10 percent of the cost of recovery of a local disaster. They noted the requirement had been waived for the recovery after the Sept. 11 attacks in New York and also in 1992 after Hurricane Andrew hit South Florida. Copyright © 2007, Chicago Tribune Link
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46 U.S. levees may fail in flood Updated 1/29/2007 11:39 AM ET By Peter Eisler, USA TODAY WASHINGTON — The Army Corps of Engineers has identified 146 levees nationwide that it says pose an unacceptable risk of failing in a major flood. The deficiencies, mostly due to poor maintenance, are forcing communities from Connecticut to California to invest millions of dollars in repairs. If the levees aren't fixed, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) could determine that they are no longer adequate flood controls. If that happens, property owners behind the levees would have to buy flood insurance costing hundreds of dollars a year or more. The substandard levees are being identified under a corps inspection program that has grown more aggressive since Hurricane Katrina overwhelmed levees across the Gulf Coast in August 2005. Thousands of residents who lost property did not have flood insurance because those levees were considered adequate; later reviews found many were not well maintained. "The corps and FEMA are saying, 'We've been lax as a nation in our operation and maintenance of these levees, and it's time to tighten up,' " says Larry Larson, director of the Association of State Floodplain Managers, an organization for officials who run flood-control systems. "You're talking about risking a lot of lives if one of these fails." After Katrina, Congress directed the corps and FEMA, which administers federal flood insurance, to identify at-risk levees. The corps inspects about 2,000 levees nationwide, mostly larger ones. The corps provided USA TODAY only with a list of how many faulty levees have been found in each state. Spokesman Pete Pierce says the corps does not want to release the list of the 146 places where levees have been identified as inadequate until all levees are inspected and all communities with faulty levees are notified. USA TODAY has filed a request for that list under the Freedom of Information Act. Thousands of levees are spread across every state. They range from miles-long levees protecting major cities to small berms shielding crops. Many were built by the corps and turned over to local authorities, which are responsible for maintaining them. Local officials fear that some cities cannot afford upgrades. Hartford, Conn., spent $5 million last year to meet the corps' demands for repairs. Otherwise, thousands of properties worth almost $2 billion would have needed flood insurance, City Engineer John McGrane says. "It's a tremendous burden," he says. The corps is allowing a one-time, one-year grace period to do the work, says Maj. Gen. Don Riley, the corps' director of civil works. "We want communities to clearly understand the risks of not maintaining these levees and take responsibility," he says. Find this article at: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-01-28-levees_x.htm
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Who the hell is this guy, never heard of him until a couple months ago, now it seems we get reports every time he takes a dump.
I guess when your a politician, the easiest way to get your name in the paper, is to bash the higher ups. And I don't even like Bush, but jeez, this is too easy, at least be original.
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"...Sen, Mary Landrieu (D-La.) and others criticized the administration for failing to waive a legal requirement that local authorities pay 10 percent of the cost of recovery of a local disaster. They noted the requirement had been waived for the recovery after the Sept. 11 attacks in New York and also in 1992 after Hurricane Andrew hit South Florida"
Dear Sen. Landrieu:
We are fighting in the Middle East against Islamic terrorists who destroyed the Twin Towers in NYC on 9/11/2006. You may or may not have heard of the attack which was not an act of nature but an act of madmen. We are spending billions of taxpayers money at this time so you may have to wait a bit longer for the rest of the country to come to a complete stop and fix all your problems in New Orleans. I realize that it is inconvenient but maybe you could start without the rest of us and well do our best to finish off the Islamic Terrorists so as you don't miss another Mardi Gras!!!!
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Pretty much anything on bush will come off as too easy lol....
Obama has been around...he has just gotten more press lately.....i've sort of been following him for past year or so...i didn't know about him either till last year
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Dear Sen. Landrieu:
We are fighting in the Middle East against Islamic terrorists who destroyed the Twin Towers in NYC on 9/11/2006. You may or may not have heard of the attack which was not an act of nature but an act of madmen. We are spending billions of taxpayers money at this time so you may have to wait a bit longer for the rest of the country to come to a complete stop and fix all your problems in New Orleans. I realize that it is inconvenient but maybe you could start without the rest of us and well do our best to finish off the Islamic Terrorists so as you don't miss another Mardi Gras!!!!
I swear these people are priceless.
You're the one who's priceless, Ralphie. To boil it all down to being concerned about missing Mardi Gras!?! Are you heartless? Are you out of your mind?
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That was a rhetorical question.right G? 
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don't worry iam - they made sure they had mardi gras...
personally I think the state and local gov't should be held more accountable for Katrina and it's atermath... but that's just me...
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don't worry iam - they made sure they had mardi gras...
personally I think the state and local gov't should be held more accountable for Katrina and it's atermath... but that's just me...
amen. Afterall it was the mayor down there who neglected advice to evacuate and let hundreds of evacuation busses sink because he was stubborn and had political motives. The world would be so much better without politicians, I've met maybe one decent one, and the guy I thought would have been the best " guilianni" is as bad as the rest after hearing what my boss went through with him.
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I think it was a very telling picture I once saw of NO after the flooding... it was a parking lot FULL of buses that could have been used to help evacuate the city...
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iambrown asks, "...Are you heartless? Are you out of your mind?"
$62.4 billion in Federal Aid thru FEMA went to La and MS..
Untold billions from private contributors went to Katrina Aid.
Give me a damn break buddy! Go get Sen. Landrieu, Sen. Obama, Congressman Jefferson and Jimmy Carter and grab your hammers and fix it !
Who is supposed to put hammer to nail???? The locals must do it themselves
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Senator John Edwards was there helping,hands on I might add,aiding in the clean up and building of habitat homes. I have to give him a little credit and respect for that. 
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He should have been there years ago when they determined the levees were unsafe and given federal money to fix them. The state of Lousiana is corrupt from the governor's mansion down to the small town mayors.....with New Orleans leading the way. To bash someone else for not responding to a problem that they knew was imminent and had the means to fix is BS. Lot's of good info here: web page
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Not very PC there my friend....you may have the Sean Penn,Susan Sarandon,Alec Baldwin's of the world calling you cold and heartless. Of course they won't be there to help but rather to just bring the cause to our attention.
Yeah, like we could ever forget Katrina!
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"There is not a sense of urgency in this administration to get this done," said the Democratic senator from Illinois. "You get a sense that will has been lacking in the last several months."
"There is not a sense of urgency in fighting terrorism among the democrats," said DC from his comfy chair. "You get a sense that will has been lacking in the last 20 years."
See how easy that is? It sure is easy to speak in broad sweeping generalizations and make any group of people look really bad.... of course when it's Bush that they want to make look really bad, the press is all over it.
Why isn't Obama mentioning the local and state governments utter ineptitude? Oh, that's right, because he wants the same people that voted for THEM, to vote for HIM.....
And Bush didn't mention it in his speech... if he does mention it then he's grandstanding and trying to make political hay on other peoples suffering, if he doesn't mention it he's a racist who has forgotten about the area....
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Of course the locals must fix it themselves. Have you seriously ever seen a conserted effort from a politician to dirty his/her hands and swing a hammer around? There aren't too many politicians around that will do more than sign a bill to give money and make a PR appearance at a "disaster" area. And rarely, will you see someone dirty their hands.
It falls on private individuals and charitable organizations to do the work with the money that's donated to the region. Have you helped out? And I mean physically, not monetarily. Have you gone to LA or MS to help people rebuild their destroyed homes? Or clean up the destruction?
If you have not, you have no room to complain about the lack of action by politicians. You're sitting back on your hands just as they are.
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Dear Ralphie,
The 9/11 attacks happened in 2001 and they are still in the works of making a multi-million dollar memorial for the 9/11 attacks. New Orleans is an entire city, not two buildings, I would think that repairing a city is far more important than building a memorial. It is common sense.
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It also takes a hell of a lot more time to rebuild a city. Yet some people want the city rebuilt quicker than two buildings. 
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Exactly... this has absolutely NOTHING to do with what occurred 17 months ago and EVERYTHING to do with trying to make sure that it is Obama that folks are pimping 17 months from now.
And I don't even have to read the article to surmise that it's nothing but generalizations tossed about without citing any actual specifics, but worded in a way as to lead the reader that what is being stated is fact. It's the way the game is played.
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you may have the Sean Penn,Susan Sarandon,Alec Baldwin's of the world calling you cold and heartless. Of course they won't be there to help but rather to just bring the cause to our attention.
Actually, Sean Penn was there to help.
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It also takes a hell of a lot more time to rebuild a city. Yet some people want the city rebuilt quicker than two buildings.
No, it's a matter of squeezing as much $$ as they can out of the construction. Those 'Freedom Towers' could have been up years ago. It has been 6 years and still, nothing. If it takes 6 + years to build 2 buildings, is it going to take 3,000 years to rebuild New Orleans?
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Dear Charlie,
Repairing a city built below sea level and adjacent to that same sea does not make "COMMON SENSE" to many people. The federal gov't FEMA allocation of $62 billion to La and Ms is long gone and the town is still in rubble aparently. Is it racism if local builders chose to not rebuild low income housing in an area which may be flooded again within 10 years?
At some point the best thing would be to plow under or scrape away the rubble and concentrate on just a few areas to rebuild with local investment money. At this point the problem cannot be solved by Washington.
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I see, so, the reconstruction of New Orleans is aimed only at the well to do of society and not everyone? That is class discrimination.
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That descibes State of the Union speeches perfectly as well!
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It takes the government 3 years to make up their mind if they want to use blue, or black ink pens. So you know it's going to take forever to rebuild NO.
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Dear BrownsBabe- please don't take this personally. You my dear are misdirecting your anger!!! You suggest that I cannot complain that incompetent Mayors,Governors and Representatives/Senators have failed in their leadership to properly use the Billions of dollars Americans send to their aid. This complaining I shouldn't do because I didn't go to La or Ms myself to help???????????????????????
This whole discussion began simply because a young Senator from Illinois regrets the damage of a hurricane in a state far away. Does your standard apply to him also Babe???? Did he clear rubble and hammer nails in La or Ms?????
Where is this anger coming from????? If opinions/criticisms were reserved for only those who actually were "involved in the moment", then this forum may be a blank slate.
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It takes the government 3 years to make up their mind if they want to use blue, or black ink pens. So you know it's going to take forever to rebuild NO.
Then there is a serious problem with the way they are doing things.
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You have no realisitc concept of how long it takes to design and then construct large structures do you?
To say they could have been up years ago is ignorance.... and it's going to take one helluva long time to rebuild New Orleans....LOTS longer than the piddling 17 months that has passed. To expect otherwise is completely unrealistic. It takes longer and costs more to rehab a home than to build a new one... and we're talking about rehabbing tens of thousands of homes and buildings. We'd be lucky to have it all done by 2010.
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The rate they are going I'd be surprised if they are finished before I die. Now, if that isn't a serious problem, what is?
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Have you seriously ever seen a conserted effort from a politician to dirty his/her hands and swing a hammer around? There aren't too many politicians around that will do more than sign a bill to give money and make a PR appearance at a "disaster" area. And rarely, will you see someone dirty their hands.
I'm typically not one to defend most politicians but their time is not best served using a shovel. Just like 3-star generals don't typically find themselves in firefights and head coaches don't spend a lot of time discussing technique with a 2nd string cornerback.... those at the top need to focus on their job, which is to lead, to delegate, and to plan the big picture....
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 Your just now figuring that out
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How long did it take to build all of the damaged structures in New Orleans in the first place?
Now, taking into account that it takes longer to rehab than to build.... how long do you expect it to realistically take?
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"Then there is a serious problem with the way they are doing things."
Ever think the problem stems from the fact that the Federal government is not a building contractor and has no business doing the work of local and state projects. How much money do we spend on rebuilding a city that is bound to be flooded again regardless of the strength of the levees.
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Of course the locals must fix it themselves. Have you seriously ever seen a conserted effort from a politician to dirty his/her hands and swing a hammer around? There aren't too many politicians around that will do more than sign a bill to give money and make a PR appearance at a "disaster" area. And rarely, will you see someone dirty their hands.
I do know of one Babe. John Edwards. He actually worked with a bunch of college kids "hands on" for some time doing clean up work in the area. Unusual I know,but he did.
Not saying I stand behind Edwards or anything,but it was refreshing to see a politician actually getting his hands dirty and doing something about the problem,rather than just talking about it.
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"Ever think the problem stems from the fact that the Federal government is not a building contractor .
Are soldiers aren't police officers or supposed to be playing mediary's in civil wars either,but that hasn't prevented that from happening.
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I do know of one Babe. John Edwards. He actually worked with a bunch of college kids "hands on" for some time doing clean up work in the area. Unusual I know,but he did.
He's not a politician, he's unemployed. 
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I'm growing fonder of Mr. Obama by the day. He gives me a warm fuzzy feeling, that I haven't felt for any politician in my life. He gets IT, at least with my average rather ordinary needs from a political representative. He is hammering your boy, that heads the Republic party. I would expect candidates from the Repulic party too hammer Mr. Obama as well. Mr. Bush makes himself an easy target, and the best thing going for the Republics, is the two term limit. IMO.
Anyways, There are hundreds of levees across the nation, in dire need of repairs. Last week the corp or engineers decided too lower the Cumberland lake by ten feet. This is in Kentucky, and if the levee there broke, Nashville would be 30 feet under water, and Katrina like devestation would be likely. They seem too be doing the right thing, although tourism and local commerce will be negatively effected by the lowering of the lake. New Orleans, was a disaster waiting too happen. I, myself question the rebuilding of a city under sea level. Big mistake too buld there in the first place. Probably thank the French for that.
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I just heard 115 billion is ready to be sent but what has been sent is not getting to the people. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't want my tax money going in some crooks pocket. The Feds are still waiting on the locals to come up with a plan. If Bush is waiting on a honest Democrat down there it could still be awhile or until Hillary or Obama comes into office and makes every crook in Louisianna a millionaire.
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hmmm? Ran in the primaries in 04 and he's running in the primaries in 08. But not a politician? That's odd. If I said he "wasn't" a politician,I'm sure you'd be pointing this very same thing out to me.
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