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I think he was just joking with you

just trying to get the xanex reference in there

~Lyuokdea

Tyler can snort up half of Columbia, if he wants... he can even post about it if he wants, it's his issue. I don't care myself & sometimes (but not always, like in his last post) it's entertaining, but I can see why it might offend the sensibilities of some.

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Wow - you're so cool. Golly, wish I could be you.

So, which was it? One of your guys hooked you up with coke? Or, it was a chance encounter with a dealer?

Either way, it was nice of them to spot you the drug on the chance you'd pay them. You must deal with friendly dealers.

But which was it - one of your boys, or a chance encounter with a dealer?

Oh, you think it's funny to wake up not knowing where you were, what you did, and brag about driving and having no memory of it? Yeah, that's cool.

Hey, wait a minute - apparently you do have memory of the night, cause you just told us all. Told us what you did - but that you didn't remember it. Wow.

And you wonder why people call you druggie names..........

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Where to start..........

OK.

When I read the article about MJ and xanax it reminded me of my personal experiences with the drug. And since I believe that majority of the posters on here haven't used xanax rereationally, I felt that I would share a personal story with the regard to the drug.

It has nothing to do with any type of "coolness" as your post suggests. I have never used drugs to be "cool." I I never use drugs "to act cool." Doing drugs doesn't "make you cool." And so I really don't understand any of that.

I do drugs to get high, and blow off stress. Most American come home with a six pack or hit up their local bar from time to time. I do this---but I like to mix it up sometimes too.

With regard to whether this was some anonymous dealer or a friend. He was neither. He was an associate---someone I knew from social situations, but would never consider a friend, more of a dealer. Had known one another for years, and we knew each other for so long we had developed a mutual respect for one another. (I actually saw him recently for the first time in about 4 or 5 years. He said he has been out of the game for awhile, and apparently, going around jacking other dealers will eventually catch-up to you. Eventually you pull out a gun on the wrong person. He learned this lesson the hard way.)

As for my memory of the night. I remember being at my dude K***'s house, hooked up with some Xany's, Left to go to another party. Wake up to phone ringing.........duder wants the money I told him I would have for him. There are some fragments of winning a card game of some sort and Big J with two cases of Budweiser at 3 or 4 am. But thats it.


I usually share these experience to possibly add to discussion. But some posters really take exception to it.

I apologize if you don't like what I bring to the boards.

I enjoy you in the belly like the Pillsbury Doughboy and seeing if any white powder fly's out.

Coroner: Jackson death homicide, sleep aids caused
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By THOMAS WATKINS and JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press Writers Thomas Watkins And Justin Pritchard, Associated Press Writers – 3 mins ago
LOS ANGELES – Michael Jackson's death was a homicide caused primarily by the powerful anesthetic propofol and another sedative, the coroner announced Friday in a highly anticipated ruling that increases the likelihood of criminal charges against the pop star's personal doctor.

The Los Angeles County coroner's office determined the cause of death was "acute propofol intoxication." Other sedatives contributed to the death, most notably lorazepam, sold under the brand name Ativan. Additional drugs detected in Jackson's system were midazolam, diazepam, lidocaine and ephedrine.

The coroner did not release Jackson's full autopsy report, citing an ongoing security hold at the request of Los Angeles authorities as they continue investigating the case.

The 50-year-old Jackson died June 25 at his rented Los Angeles mansion. Dr. Conrad Murray, the Las Vegas cardiologist who was the pop star's personal physician, told police he gave Jackson propofol that morning after a series of sedatives failed to help Jackson sleep.

Murray has not been identified as a suspect but is the target of what police term a manslaughter investigation.

Murray has been interviewed twice by police. According to court records, he told investigators that over about six hours he injected Jackson with two doses each of the sedatives lorazepam and midazolam. Finally, around 10:40 a.m., Murray said he succumbed to Jackson's demands and administered propofol, a drug Murray said he had given Jackson every night for six weeks.

Propofol, dubbed "milk of amnesia" among anesthesia professionals, is commonly used to render patients unconscious for surgery. It's only supposed to be administered by anesthesia professionals in medical settings and, because of its potency, requires the patient be closely monitored at all times. Using propofol strictly as a sleep agent violates medical guidelines.

Except for a brief video posted to YouTube, Murray has not spoken publicly since Jackson's death. In the video, he said: "I told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail."

Murray's attorney, Edward Chernoff, has said his client never administered anything to Jackson that "should have" killed him.

The Los Angeles district attorney's office has been working with the Los Angeles Police Department but has not indicated whether charges will be brought. The coroner's determination of homicide makes it more likely criminal charges will be filed but does not guarantee it.

Over the past seven years, just a handful of doctors have been convicted of manslaughter, mostly involving their patients' use of painkillers. To win a conviction, prosecutors would have to show that Murray acted recklessly and with negligence.

The doctor is supposed to know better so if the doctor goes to jail, I have no problem with it... but...

propofol
lorazepam
midazolam
diazepam
lidocaine
ephedrine

At what point should a person realize that is a whole bunch of meds to have in your system at one time?

Sad thing is, jackson demanded them so he could "sleep". After all, he had a burnt scalp 10 or 15 years ago, right? It was painful - for 10 or 15 years.

Ah, must be the doctors fault. jackson was just "misunderstood". Jesus Juice anyone?

MJ's doctor should be held responsible, period. He knew better. If MJ insisted, you quit your job and let him find a different doctor. It's very simple.

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It will be interesting as this goes to trial to hear the stories of who ordered all these drugs into Michael. Was it Mike himself or was there somebody who wanted to control him?

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If they all came from the same doctor then it doesn't matter, it's HIS fault.

Go, Girl!

Agreed- 100%.

There's a thing called "professional ethics." First of all, Dude broke the cardinal rule of medicine... the first rule of the Hypocratic Oath: "First- Do no harm."

On top of that, he prescribed substances which were illegal, under the circumstances... so he broke the law of the land that governs the actions of us all.

Thridly, he took insufficient measures to safeguard the well-being of his patient while said patient was under his immediate care. At best, he's guilty of professional negligence. At worst, he's guilty of the fullmax that's being brought down upon him. Somewhere in between, he's definitely guilty of negligent homocide.

Any way you slice it, This MF is going down.

I won't be surprised to see a news article in the next few weeks , telling us that this guy committed suicide.

I Hope the money he recieved from MJ was worth the trouble he now faces.... although I rather doubt it.


"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, but lose his soul?"

Clem, you are as wise as most anyone on this board, always getting to the heart of the matter.

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"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, but lose his soul?"

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I won't be surprised to see a news article in the next few weeks , telling us that this guy committed suicide.
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And he'll most likely be buried before they get Jackson in the ground!

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MJ's doctor should be held responsible, period. He knew better. If MJ insisted, you quit your job and let him find a different doctor. It's very simple

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Yup,, seems really simple to me.. I agree..

He's been dead 2 months and he's still on my damn TV. STOP!!!!!