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This is atrocious coming from an ex-president. Skin color shouldn't protect any politician from having their performance criticized. That last paragraph is a frickin' joke. Does Jimmah mean "respect" similar to what he himself has shown to certain other presidents?  CNN Carter: Racism plays major role in opposition. Former president says, "That racism inclination still exists" Carter cites protesters calling Obama a Nazi as example of racial politics (CNN) -- Former President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday that racial politics played a role in South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst during President Obama's speech to Congress last week and in some of the opposition the president has faced since taking office. Former President Carter tells NBC Nightly News that racism has surfaced in opposition to President Obama. "I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American," Carter told NBC News. "I live in the South, and I've seen the South come a long way, and I've seen the rest of the country that shares the South's attitude toward minority groups at that time, particularly African-Americans." "That racism inclination still exists, and I think it's bubbled up to the surface because of belief among many white people -- not just in the South but around the country -- that African-Americans are not qualified to lead this great country. It's an abominable circumstance, and it grieves me and concerns me very deeply," Carter said. Carter made similar remarks at an event at his presidential center in Atlanta, Georgia, The Associated Press reported Tuesday, pointing to some protesters who have compared Obama to a Nazi. "Those kind of things are not just casual outcomes of a sincere debate on whether we should have a national program on health care," the former president said at the Carter Center, according to AP. "It's deeper than that." Watch Carter link animosity toward Obama to racism » He grouped Wilson's shout of "You lie!" during Obama's speech in that category, according to AP. "I think it's based on racism. There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president," he said. "The president is not only the head of government, he is the head of state. And no matter who he is or how much we disagree with his policies, the president should be treated with respect."
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How many people called Bush a Nazi??? I guess they were racist as well. How many Dems called Bush a liar on the floor of the congress? I guess they were racist as well. What Wilson said was against the rules for Congress. It was low class to interrupt his speech. To say it was anything more is just stupid.
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Funny thing is, unless someone mentions it, I don't even think about Obama being a black man. He's just a man who happens to be President.
And I would bet most people feel the same way.
And I bet unless there is opposition or someone brings it to the conversation, most average folks don't think about race/color when dealing with someone. We all probably have friends of different races/nationalities/religions, and in most dealings with them you don't give those characteristics much of a thought.
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I wish Jimmy Carter would take his 12% unemployment, his 16% mortgage interest rates, 444 days of US hostages and just go away.
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I used to think he was a nice guy but a lousy President. Now I just think he's a lousy person.
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From my personal experience with this, I'd say that President Carter is correct TO AN EXTENT. I've heard some people talk about Obama and it's clear that they are not fans of his race.
Now does this mean that Wilson and others are racist? Not at all. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say 95% of the people that don't like Obama don't like his politics, which is fine with me. But there ARE people who don't like him because of his race, and like I said this is only from my perspective, but I've been shocked by some of the things people I considered my friends had to say about him.
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Sure, nobody wants to be labeled a racist so this is their way to shut up the dissenters. Make them afraid to speak up or they'll be called haters and racists. It probably works well on a lot of people.
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Obama isnt African American tho, hes Hawaiian. Not that its anything, but the way the media makes it sound sometimes is that he's of African American history.
People arent racist, they just hate socialistic and communistic ideals.
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Obama isnt African American tho, hes Hawaiian. Not that its anything, but the way the media makes it sound sometimes is that he's of African American history.
People arent racist, they just hate socialistic and communistic ideals.
I don't think he is Hawaiian, he was born there but his father is Kenyan and his mother is from the Mid-West. He is half black and half white.
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I have a feeling there are going to be real repercussions at the voting booths come Nov. 2010 .. Dems. will loose control of the house and maybe even the Senate , maybe ! .. Of course then we will be stuck with the Dumb ass Republicans again.  Race is a very , very dangerous card to play
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From my personal experience with this, I'd say that President Carter is correct TO AN EXTENT. I've heard some people talk about Obama and it's clear that they are not fans of his race.
From my experience with the people that I see, most are not fond of his politics... then they include some racial reference into their comment about his politics. They would dislike the same politics from a white guy, they would just make the objection without a racial reference... does that make a person a racist?
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I found something i do agree with the President on, K. west is a "jackass" that's a presidental qoute 
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Jesse Jackson would say yes if I let a white woman with a carton of eggs in front of me, but not the minority with a cart full of groceries.
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Jesse Jackson would say yes if I let a white woman with a carton of eggs in front of me, but not the minority with a cart full of groceries.
Jesse Jackson would say yes if you let the minority with a carton of eggs in front of you, but did not offer to pay for the eggs.
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Not sure if it's already been said. But this is to the Dems as - "being un-american" is to Reps. More poo to throw around and confuse people away from the real issues.
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Jesse Jackson would say yes if I let a white woman with a carton of eggs in front of me, but not the minority with a cart full of groceries.
Jesse Jackson would say yes if you let the minority with a carton of eggs in front of you, but did not offer to pay for the eggs.
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I think that there are some people who do not like his policies and even to protest them is ok. BUT this mass denial that there aren't some people with racial signs/verbal protest..mainly against Pres. Obama's race is laughable.
This weekend, here in DC, there were people in town protesting some of his policies. And that is their right as an American to protest. But intermingled with them were the signs of the racial sort. That does not mean all of those people are racist, but it means the racist are mingling with them.
As far as J.Wilson, I really to not know if he is/was a racist. But I know that he felt he could interrupt a Presidential Speech to the Joint House of Congress and the World without any repercussions.( low class). But of course ran out of the hall of Congress after the speech to hide like a chicken!!
Most protest and that is fine. But there are racists among them.
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From my experience with the people that I see, most are not fond of his politics... then they include some racial reference into their comment about his politics. They would dislike the same politics from a white guy, they would just make the objection without a racial reference... does that make a person a racist?
Why yes it does, to not like his politics is fine, to bring his race into it is racist.
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You are going to hear many racial comments about Obama. there still are many in this country with racists or prejudices about minorities. The thing is most don't feel that way, especially the more educated. To label everyone with strong disagreements with Obama's policies to be because of a racial nature (or down right racists) is nothing more than race biting.
We managed to elect a black president (with the highest percentage of the vote since 84 or 88) and to have his backers that are in power to constantly bring up race will set us back IMO.
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From my experience with the people that I see, most are not fond of his politics... then they include some racial reference into their comment about his politics. They would dislike the same politics from a white guy, they would just make the objection without a racial reference... does that make a person a racist?
Why yes it does, to not like his politics is fine, to bring his race into it is racist.
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No it doesn't. Bringing up race is not the same as being racist. Having prejudes is also not the same as being racist. The term racist is thrown around way to much.
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Then if a person does not like his( Pres. Obama) polices, then why bring up his race??
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j/c The Chairman for the Republican National Committee, Michael Steele, opposes Obama's policies and.....he's African American. I guess he's a racist.  The whole thing is hogwash.
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My brother in law tried to discuss politics with a black man the other day. While he was bringing up political issues and trying to debate the man simply responded with "You don't like Obama because your a racist"
Which one was really being the racist? The guy talking politics and stating his opinion of the topics or the guy who couldn't see past Race and had nothing to say about the politics?
It's easy to call someone a racist when you don't agree with them. I Believe you can't even have a discussion with a person like that. The same could be said for the guy who doesn't like Obama because he is black yet knows nothing about his politics. Sadly I've seen both but more of the first example.
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The Chairman for the Republican National Committee, Michael Steele, opposes Obama's policies and.....he's African American. I guess he's a racist
There are alot of names I could use for M.Steele but racist isn't one of them. Now "idiot", "Parrot", "Imbecile".. yea, those are what I would use for him!!
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Since I was not in the conversation with your brother-in-law, I cannot or would not call him a racist if he was just looking at Pres. Obama's policies. Now if brother-in-law went into some racial issues that have nothing to do with the policies, then the other guy might have been justified.
And like you, have have seen more of your second example than your first!
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And like you, have have seen more of your second example than your first!
Doesn't suprise me.....Seek and ye shall find.....
I am sure there are those that are stupid and bringing race into the equation when trying to discuss Obama and his job as the leader of this country. I have no doubts that there are those that are ignorant and attack his policies while using his race as an example......However, it IS coming from BOTH sides....but the only time that it is being focused on is when it against Obama or an Obama supporter....otherwise it is usually thrown under the rug....
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So now since Obama called Kanye West a Jackbutt is he a racist? Whole things rather confusing  I'm by no means PC, but I'll prefer to see how they live day to day before tagging somebody as something.
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Since I was not in the conversation with your brother-in-law, I cannot or would not call him a racist if he was just looking at Pres. Obama's policies. Now if brother-in-law went into some racial issues that have nothing to do with the policies, then the other guy might have been justified.
I don't like o'[s policies and agenda, and what he came from (acorn). Am I racist? You can check out all my posts on here if you care to. Am I racist?
So there are some people that don't like him because he's black. Got it. I am more than certain that is true. Does that make all that disagree with him racist?
Carter seems to be excusing the disagreement of policy by saying race is playing the part.
It's dangerous when the race card is played in situations when it is not warranted. See: jesse jackson and al sharpton.
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From my personal experience with this, I'd say that President Carter is correct TO AN EXTENT. I've heard some people talk about Obama and it's clear that they are not fans of his race.
From my experience with the people that I see, most are not fond of his politics... then they include some racial reference into their comment about his politics. They would dislike the same politics from a white guy, they would just make the objection without a racial reference... does that make a person a racist?
Doesn't make them racist, just not politically knowledgeable. Bringing race into a political discussion 99% of the time means that you can't attack the policy, just the man. Same goes for attacking someone for being gay, Hispanic, etc.
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There is plenty wrong on both sides. Just as there are people who didn't vote for Obama because of his race, there are plenty of people who voted for him only because of his race. Both sides are just as wrong IMO.
As for Wilson, I don't know him personally or know his upbringing but his outburst was completely low-class. You don't publicly interrupt the President while he is speaking, Democrat or Republican. Disagree with him when the time is appropriate, but there is a thing called class that both sides have forgotten.
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Overall, I'd say that there is a degree of racism in some of the comments you hear and the signs you read.. like the one that says "The Zoo as an African Lion and we have a lyin african" Now you can say what you want, but that is indeed racist.
But I think that the folks that are that small minded aren't the ones you see protesting generally..
But you gotta be out of your mind to assume that there isn't a certain amount of racism.. And I'm afraid they speak loudly at times and tend to, on occasion, obscure the conservative message..
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Re read what Carter said: "I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American,"
NOBODY'S saying that racism doesn't exist, and making an excuse for Carter (or anyone) pulling the race card on those of us critical of Obama's policies is insulting.
You pulled one of the few racist comments out of the millions that disagree with Obama's politics. That would be akin to me equating you with those idiots that held up signs wishing Bush were dead.
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The term racist is so casually used that I'm surprised the folks, the ones from the 50's 60's who are living among us today, who faced the ugliness of REAL
racism are are not totally offended by this stuff!!
I won't forget that REAL racism imparted on REAL good people consisted of keeping them off buses, out of restaurants, beat up and lynched among other atrocities and I'd stand up against it! This...heck this isn't racism and I laugh at their attempts to discredit middle America! Pelosi and her modern day lynch mob hate us!
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Thats a bunch of ..., I could care less who's running the Country and whatever color they are, black, white, green, beige, red whatever it doesn't matter. What matters is if they are making decisions that actually benfit the Country and its citizens and Obama has not lived up to his promises. If anything Reverse Racism seems like the new fad since Obama came into office. The news media only reports that he's a Black man but they never say anything about him being bi-racial.
Obama's bailouts of the Auto companies and Banks did nothing but put our economy in a deeper hole thats gonna take decades to get out of. For example if you have a friend that is an alchoholic and he needs help and you give him a check for $50,000 dollars where do you think that money is gonna go, "Party Time", to properly handle the situation you have to try to assist them in getting the proper help so they can get there lives back on track, throwing money on the situation only makes it worse for your freind because he probably has one hell of a hangover and also your broke for giving him your money.
Im not even gonna comment on Obama's Medical Reform that polls show 75% or more Americans do not approve of but yet Obama could care less about what the Americans whom he works for want or ask for so he's still out trying to rush this thing through so Congress can vote on it asap. Obama has his own agenda on everything he has done so far since being in office and will not listen to the people that he has sworn to serve. Your rights as an American are being taken away at a record pace, just wait for the Mandatory H1N1 Vaccinations that will be forced upon ALL citizens this coming winter that will more than likely be the cause of more deaths than the actual virus, this vaccine was put on the fast track it hasn't been tested very long but yet, its perfecly safe for you, the Government only has your best interests in mind (sarcasm).
Oh and also if this healthcare plan goes through that Obama so strongly wants to get done, it will be a crime if you do not have medical insurance followed by very steep fines and possible criminal implications. Oh and the government that runs everthing like a criminal driving a stolen car will also be running the show telling you what type of care you can and can't have and also how much money is covered which is far less than the medical that your employer provides if you work for a company that offers that.
One thing is for sure the next few upcoming years are gonna be very interesting, he's been in office not even a year and how things are going, just wait this guy is truly evil. So since i dissaprove of what Obama has done does that make me racist? In my eyes absolutely not, i have very close friends that are black, some family members that are black and I have no problem with any of them I see them as people for who they are, sometimes we may have disagreements just like any person but why would that make me a racist.
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Obama's bailouts of the Auto companies and Banks did nothing but put our economy in a deeper hole thats gonna take decades to get out of.
I find it odd that he brags about the 17% return the taxpayers made on the bank bailouts - those banks that have repaid the loans already, that is.
Bernanke is now saying the recession is over. Just wait, O will claim his bailout of the recession caused it. Yet, how much of the money has been spent to date? 15% maybe.
If the damn recession is over, congress needs to have a vote and pass a law negating the bailout spending, asap.
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So since i dissaprove of what Obama has done does that make me racist?
Yep. Somebody held up a racist sign at one of the protests, so yes, you are a racist.
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Re read what Carter said: "I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American,"
I don't have to reread it... I heard him say it.
But like I said,, there is a degree of racism out there and there is no getting round it.
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You pulled one of the few racist comments out of the millions that disagree with Obama's politics. That would be akin to me equating you with those idiots that held up signs wishing Bush were dead.
As for me pulling up ONE of the few racist comments,, would you like me to search and bring up 10 more.. There are plenty of them and it's hard to deny that the media is playing it up and will continue to.
And speaking of rereading things,, you need to go back and read what I wrote, you will see that I don't believe that there is wholesale racism going on.. I do however believe there are pockets of it.
In essence, I'm saying I don't agree with Carter.. But just so you know,, let me make myself perfectly clear,, I don't agree with Carter....
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Re read what Carter said: "I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American,"
I don't have to reread it... I heard him say it.
But like I said,, there is a degree of racism out there and there is no getting round it.
Just as there was when Bush was president (kanye, anyone?)
Blacks make up 13% of the population of the u.s. O did not get elected by black people. He did not get elected by white people. It was a combination - and yes, I can just about guarantee that, number wise, more whites voted for him than blacks - that's simple math, really.
But now disagreeing with him is racist? In my best mike tyson voice: That's ludicrous.
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