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While Cribbs is a great player and all you really want in a player, I would consider the move if it was the right deal.

Based on his value to us and the value he would bring to a team like the Fins, it would have to be multiple picks over 2 drafts..say a 2nd this year and as high as a 1st next year (no lower than a 3rd) depending on how he does over the season and a half.

Package him with Quinn, we get Ronnie Brown and Chad Henne and their 2010 1st. rounder.

Browns give up Cribbs.
Fins give Browns Ricky Williams and a 3rd this year. Plus a conditional 5th( could escalate to a 4th) next year based on Cribbs performance.( I wouldn't want Ginn, ands don't think they would part with Ronnie Brown.) I am not sold on that being enough to get the deal done.

don't want Ricky Williams.. Wouldn't take him even if they offered up a bag of Mexican Gold

J/C

Talk of trading Cribbs is BS IMO. Since Edwards has been traded, the press is trying anything to suggest that Mangini is trying to damage the team. Name the source, if it is true.

To me this is a crap story to get people riled up. I would also note that trading Rogers is even more rediculous. Hack writers will print anything if they think it will cause controversy.

Think about it. A writer from the DAYTON paper has inside info on a trade for a guy in CLEVELAND to a team in MIAMI.....I find it laughable that anyone would even find this story the least bit credible.

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Oakland huh? We might finnally screw another team over in a trade now

All that I'm seeing is teams inquiring.

If there truly is this much interest in Cribbs.... I think we should probably ship him off. I love Cribbs. He is my favorite player on the roster next to Thomas.

However, we are in rebuild mode and if someone is actually willing to ship us one or two draft picks plus a player (like that of Ginn), I think we would be stupid not to take the deal. It seems as if Cribbs will never really fit in this offense as a WR and Mangini doesnt look to run the wildcat that much even though he says that will change this weekend. Cribbs isn't happy with his contract and could easily walk out of here when its up.

Also... Lawson looked very good in the pre-season taking on the kick return duties. I think he could step in and do very well. Although not Cribbs like.

I think the Raiders could actually give us their 2nd and 5th round pick for Cribbs... I don't how you don't say yes to that deal. It will ultimately give us 3 picks in the top 40.

If the Dolphins offer Ginn, 3rd and 5th then I wouldnt probably be more inclined to do that. I don't see them giving that much up for just Cribbs though.

What the hell happened with Pioli then if we;re rebuilding?!?! What a Farce the Mangini Hiring was.

It all depends on what teams are willing to do to get him. There are 4 teams rumored to be inquiring about him. The more teams involved, the higher his price will be. That, and Al Davis loves speed. Cribbs gives him that. He may just be dumb enough to give us a really stupid deal to get Cribbs. I love Cribbs on this team and think he is great, but he will never be more than a special teamer. If we can get a good or great deal for him and it will improve our team in the long run then I would be willing to part ways with him, even though I'd miss his heart and style of play.

What could we get for Thomas?

I'm thinking a marginal LT, a great special teams player and a 3rd and a 5th.

We could then have one of the best special teams units ever assembled in the history of the NFL.

I mean you gotta listen if someone proposes that scenario.

How about teams just give us all of the first round picks.. that would work...

I would consider trading Cribbs if the right deal was proposed. Sorry, but if a 1st round pick is offered for a special teams player you take it in our situation. We aren't competing in the next couple of years, and as someone else mentioned there isn't a guarantee Cribbs is still a viable option at that point. If I'm offered multple picks (say a 2nd and 3rd) I probably do the deal as well. We need alot of help, and while I love Cribbs trading an A + special teams player for multiple high picks that (if used correctly) can fill multiple needs makes alot of sense to me...shrug.....several good players is > than one great special teamer imo

I don't think this is a real issue though, because the Fins aren't going to offer anything better than a 3rd, and I don't see EM doing that deal.

Don't forget Rogers too.

I mean might as well.

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Talk of trading Cribbs is BS IMO

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I think you will find that most that have responded do indeed think it's pretty unlikely.. so there really isn't any reason to get all riled up...

Man.. We are gonna have a lot of picks.. Wonder how many Gini will cut so other teams can pick them up?

Don't know if this was posted or not.

Cleveland Browns' Josh Cribbs reportedly would like trade if new deal can't be reached
By Mary Kay Cabot

Browns receiver Josh Cribbs wants to remain a Brown for the rest of his career, but if the team is unwilling to extend his contract, he'd welcome trade, a source close to the situation said.

Cribbs, who signed a six-year extension in 2007 worth $6.77 million, is under contract through 2012. He has made it clear since the off-season that he wants a new deal in the form of a contract extension. In fact, he considered holding out at the beginning of the season.

The source said two teams inquired on Thursday about trading for Cribbs. The Palm Beach, Fla., Post reported that two of the teams interested in Cribbs are Kansas City and Oakland. Indianapolis has also been mentioned.

But unless they make the Browns an offer they can't refuse, nothing is likely to happen by Tuesday's 4 p.m. deadline.

The Dayton Daily News reported the Miami Dolphins expressed interest.

The Post also reported that Cribbs has asked to be traded. Cribbs' agent, J.R. Rickert, declined to confirm that but stressed that Cribbs "wants the extension, and if we don't get it, we're going to have to look at our alternatives."

Rickert also emphasized that "nothing would make Josh happier than for me to tell him we were able to work out something with the Browns. That's what he wants. He loves these fans and he loves this city."

Although the two sides continue to have dialogue, a new deal has been at a stalemate for quite some time. However, it hasn't stopped Cribbs from playing with the same reckless abandon on special teams. He leads the league with 877 kick-return yards and 260 punt-return yards.

The Browns are believed to be unwilling to trade Cribbs before Tuesday's deadline, a source said. They prefer to hang onto him and perhaps work out a deal in the future. Cribbs is the prototypical player for coach Eric Mangini, one who has tremendous passion for the game.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/10/post_9.html

trade him. Cribbs is a great special teamer but lets remember making your career as a returner is usually very short lived. if someone wants to make a decent offer, I say jump on it.

Yeah that's my sentiment as well......don't give him away, but if a decent deal comes along you don't turn it down to hang on to a returner.

i wouldn't trade away a game changer which we all know that Cribbs is.

Seriously some of you want to trade Cribbs? Everyone has their price, but I think Cribbs price would have to be pretty high (like a 1st and a 2nd at least). And I don't think anyone would be willing to give us that for a guy that was undrafted.

Think of the one player on this team that epitomizes what you want in a football player: that would be Cribbs. He's a great teammate, loves the game, gives 110%, and still shows up to play every week even though he is underpaid. Plus, he's the best special teams player in the league. What kind of message would trading him send to the rest of the team?

I remember an article in the preseason that said James Davis was trying to model himself as Cribbs. Lots of younger players on this team look up to Josh, and I think he's a great role model. He's done everything the right way since he's got here. It's hard to trade the most respected player on your team unless you get a very sweet deal.

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We've been rebuilding for 10 years, and for all we know we'll still be rebuilding 10 years from now. And now there's talk about trading away one of the only players that makes the Browns bearable to watch?

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I agree wholeheartedly with the first comment, I hope you are wrong about the second comment... and if doing the 3rd comment helps make the second comment wrong, then I'm for it... I love Cribbs, he almost singlehandedly kept us in the Bengals game... I hope he plays his whole career in Cleveland but if he could bring us a couple good position players, it would be hard to pass that up.

Browns receiver Josh Cribbs wants to remain a Brown for the rest of his career, but if the team is unwilling to extend his contract, he'd welcome trade, a source close to the situation said.



Hmmm ..wording is wrong..extend? U mean redo..he has 4 years left if I'm not mistaken... so it's a redo..

That little experiment showed he's nom WR..he's a returner..
If they value him more than we think he'll be here..

If not , then I agree with Moug/Peen /Big Willie..U trade him but you get top comp for him..no 3rd..no 4th..a 1st..or a combination of picks next year and the year after..you trade one of your best players on at talent starved team..U better get some serious comp for that..and thats also a basis for my argument to Spider in the other thread..accepting less on trades..this team has little talent..dang ..make teams pay for getting pur players..

The source said two teams inquired on Thursday about trading for Cribbs. The Palm Beach, Fla., Post reported that two of the teams interested in Cribbs are Kansas City and Oakland. Indianapolis has also been mentioned.


KC and Oakland would have the higher draft picks..but Indy..interesting..

I agree. 1st or nothing - as you say he might be our best player, and he's a fan fave, which does carry some weight.

No way. Would you trade cribbs for Alex Mack if we hadn't drafted him? Ziggy hood? Keny Britt? Gmab a first is not nearly worth cribbs value, especially with our front office deciding ho gets drafted.

For goodness sakes... Pay the man. Mangini keeps bragging about how he saved all ths money getting Mack at 21 to have money for other players. Be got traded, quinn's not getting the escalators; so who is this money going to?

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Browns have no plans to trade Cribbs
Posted by Mike Florio on October 15, 2009 9:08 PM ET


Earlier today, the Dolphins were mentioned as a team potentially interested in Browns receiver/kick returner Josh Cribbs.

The Dolphins apparently aren't the only ones.

According to Jason La Canfora of NFL Network, several teams have been calling the Browns about Cribbs: the Dolphins, Colts, Chiefs, Raiders, Jaguars, and 49ers.

But we're told that the Browns aren't interested in trading Cribbs in advance of the October 20 deadline, due in large part to one of the things that makes him attractive -- a grossly below-market contract that applies through 2012.

Then again, whoever inherits Cribbs also gets his discontent regarding his contract.

Apparently, teams are willing to take their chances.

Even more apparently, the Browns are one of those teams.

Thank goodness for that.

Sometimes it becomes really hard to put your mind around what the "H" is going on:

At this point Lerner needs to go to Kokinis and tell him to get a deal done on Cribbs - period, end of sentence.

Here is a guy who wants to be a Brown. He is a selfless player. He is a great team player. He has a passion for the game. He is the example that you want to display to the rest of the team. AND he performs. He is the best player at what he does.

Lerner, Mangini, and Kokinis should want to pay him just to demonstrate to the team that this is the type of player that the Cleveland Browns are going to reward.

Terry Pluto's article in today's PD brings up some additional points on Cribbs in the wildcat. Here is a guy who could make that type of offense happen. He threw for 55 touchdowns in college. What do have to lose? Watching our offense trying to score points is as painful as getting root canal. Why not line up in a three back offense; Cribbs, Harrison, Lewis? Cribbs can catch the ball but he is not a receiver. He is a running back who can throw the ball.

There is no deal for a trade of Josh Cribbs. For what? Draft picks? Players? I can't even come with any type of logical trade that would make sense for both teams.

Any trade the Browns would make for Cribbs would be a lopsided trade with us on the short end.

Be honest Josh Cribbs is only player we have on the team that is exiting to watch.

Unless of course you get goose bumps watching punts or maybe watching Joe Thomas pass block.

These headlines on Cribbs need to end. Pay the man and use him correctly.

Hanging on to Cribbs and getting his contract re-done is also a show to the other players that performance gets rewarded.

I am anti-this trade. That said, there have been some really very good points brought up (above) about the "good" that "could" come of this, but you would have to get me Vanessa Marcil before I trade my wife,...

I could barely breathe with Ginn and a #1, minimum, but I also don't like the idea of trading him "in conference." Besides, the Dolphins are making a big run this year and the pick would not be as high.

I say no way. The gamble on what we "might" get is not worth the positive(s) of keeping him.

what could he Browns get in exchange for Cribbs?

a right tackle, an inside linebacker?
Maybe the Colts would trade Manning to us for Cribbs

the price gotta be right

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Any trade the Browns would make for Cribbs would be a lopsided trade with us on the short end.

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Nah,...I don't think our FO is quite that inept. The Browns are definately in the drivers seast on this one.

J/C

This has the potential for being another Walker trade. If a team thinks it is one weapon away from strong contention in the playoffs, we should get a nice ransom for Cribbs. Unlike trades in the off-season, management has a good idea of likelihood to reach the post-season. This is a perfect storm as several teams have a need and are in contention.

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Browns | Cribbs would be open to trade if new deal is not done
Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:26:31 -0700

Mary Kay Cabot, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports Cleveland Browns WR Josh Cribbs would be open to a trade if the Browns were not able to give him a new contract, according to a source. The Browns are believed to be unwilling to trade Cribbs before the NFL trade deadline, according to a source.

This is what I hate about players in the NFL. Cribbs signed a 6 year contract extension in '07. Now 2 years later he wants a new contract. If he didn't like the terms then, then he shouldn't have signed the deal.

Why do players continue to sign these deals if in a year, or 2, down the road they want a new deal? If this deal was so bad now. Then why did he agree to it 2 years ago?

He didn't have to sign it. He could've waited until his original deal expires and sign a new one.

There are only 2 players that I would not want to trade

1. Josh Cribbs
2. Joe Thomas (I will never watch this team again if we trade him )

If you took a job for $50,000 a year and for whatever reason 2 years from now your skills became incredibly more marketable, would you continue with your current employer for your 4% per year pay increase if another employer was offering you $100,000?

Or.. say you are some type of manager making $50,000 a year and you find out that a similar manager for a different company was making $100,000 for doing roughly the same job, would you stay with your current employer?

Josh Cribbs, BQ, and a first rd pick to SF for Patrick Willis.