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Coyotes are becoming a big problem in Ohio and it's open season on them all year. It's the only way to keep the population in check. They will start coming closer and closer to people if we don't. It's sad, but true.

WHY would he shoot a coyote? Because it's a varmint. A nuisance animal.

I've never shot one. I've never had a shot at one either. A friend of mine raises chickens - buys chicks, raises them and sells them. More as a hobby, but he covers his costs. Anyway, he and his wife came home one night this year. The chicks were within 2 weeks of being sold, and they found chicken feathers all over their yard. Turns out a coyote/s had gotten to them. Killed many of them and maimed most of the rest. At least the dog warden that came out said it was a coyote. How he knew, or why he said that, I don't know.

My ODNR guy came to visit me this spring and said to take out Coyote and racoon this season. Both a nuisance and the racoon have been spreading
a sickness among themselves in my area also.

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Just curious arch, but why would he shoot at a coyote? Surely he doesn't eat coyote meat.... does he? If he ain't gonna eat it, why kill it?
I know some coyotes get shot because they chase, kill and eat deer... which is what a coyote is supposed to do but hunters don't like it.

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to add to Arch responce, Yote hunting was outlawed in an Eastern state, PETA was behind banning yote hunitng, Well when yotes have 3-4+ young per litter and some can have 2 litters per year, it dosent take long to increase the population, first they were eating deer, rabbits, squirrels ya know wildlife, well as the wildlife became scares they had to eat so chickens,dogs cats ect became food, it got to the point they yotes were jumping fences taking dogs from peoples back yards killing them in thier leashes & chains, it got really bad in this area, and PETA bye the way was no where to be found and when the yotes started attacking children playing in thier back yards, Peta was nowhere to be found, since then this state has reversed the hunting law and the population has leveled out.

Yotes under normal controled areas are very usefull cleaning up eating roadkill sick dieing deer, controling rabbit populations ect, but get to many and they are dangerous.

we didnt see any hunting this year, but did hear a couple friday morning.

And any hunter that has even skimmed the hunting laws of Ohio knows that. If they don't, they have no business being out hunting anything.

The counter point is coyotes - at least in this part of this state - have a healthy regard for humans: i.e. they are scared to death of humans. Go for a walk in the woods, you will NOT see one. They see you first, they smell you - you very seldom "just come across" one.

Why? They fear humans. At least here. They are pack animals as well. A single coyote, by itself, can't run down a deer. 5 or 6 coyotes? Running a deer in circles? Dead deer.

Hungry animals are dangerous animals. There is no end to the stories of pets being killed by coyotes. See, coyotes are slowly getting over their inhibitions of "populated" areas - be that my property, or some downtown city area......they are gradually losing their inhibitions. More so in city areas than here, for example, where I live, but they are losing it nonetheless.

Killing them does 2 things: keeps the ones that get away scared of humans - and thereby scared of going to populated places (my back yard for example), and it helps thin them out.

Ohio has 88 counties. Coyotes are in every single county - many, many more coyotes than you would ever dream. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. I hear coyotes more nights than not if I'm outside.

North of where clay lives, I know of 2 guys that hunt them. (they hunt with others, but I only know 2 of them) They are brothers, but don't hunt together. One brother's group got 26 coyote, the other brother's group got about 20.

More than likely they'll get as many this year, and they still will be "behind" as far as the coyote population growth goes.

Woodchucks - if people didn't shoot them they would spread like wildfire - digging holes, ruining foundations, eating crops. I guess we could let a woodchucks one known predator - the coyote - go, so the coyote's could help with the woodchuck population - but then coyotes would over populate and they'd be in my back yard.

Deer? I seem to remember you saying something about "if you're a man, kill deer with your own 2 hands", or something like that......

If Ohio banned deer hunting for just 2 years, the deer population would almost double. That equates to more lost crops, many more car/deer accidents, and much else.

But, you just sit back and judge, eat your steak or burger or chicken you bought at the store - all neatly wrapped in cellophane - ain't no killing for that food, is there?

You go ahead and set your mousetraps and toss out the dead little mice, go ahead and swat flies that bother you - cause that's totally different, isn't it? You go ahead and let the raccoons move into your attic - after all, it's your fault, right? You should learn to live with nature, right?

I would say your interested in weird stuff, just look who you talk to around here.

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Woodchucks - if people didn't shoot them they would spread like wildfire - digging holes, ruining foundations, eating crops.

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These things are a pain in the butt if you have a garden . They are a singleminded animal to put it lightly . I bury the fence they dig under , I eletrify the bottom part , they go under even further or in the case of one big old pig he just took the jolt and pushed on through . I have to live trap them then dispatch them in a safe place . My little back yard seems to have an endless supply of them as I took 7 out this year alone.

Got a nice 10 pointer on Wed. then got one for the old man down the road from where I used to live, a nice lil Button buck.
Had a Great time visiting with familey and friend's ,Wish I had more time to see every one.

Congrats!! You process them yourself?

Yep!...Have been for over 35 year's Gave all my meat from the buck to my sister, she's fallen on hard time's.
As for the button buck, Well I have gotten him a deer for the last 10 year's, He dosent get around good, he's 81

Every year, when my wife and I get everything done I say "next year maybe we ought to think about having a shop do it".....I get tired of pulling deer meat from under my fingernails.....

But, the following year, I change my mind and we do it ourselves again. Plus, it's kind of rewarding throughout the year, knowing you did it all yourself/ourselves. And, I'm a tightwad - why pay someone to do what I can do? Also, during gun season if we take it to a butcher, they weigh it, then tell you how much meat you'll get and they process it with all the other deer they get so you aren't necessarily getting your meat from what I understand.

Only bad part is cutting it off the bone. The rest is fun.

We take all the blue and the white out...may look like you lose a lot of meat, but it is so much better tasting.

Ever can any?

Love cold pack!

j/c

I've only ever hunted with a camera, but I thought you firearms guys might like this story.

Enjoy

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'Billy's [72nd] Birthday Buck:' 1st time out
Deer registers 140 in Boone, Crockett


Usually, one of those big buck stories involves a young kid, first time out deer hunting, stepping behind the family barn and dropping a buster on opening morning.

Now comes a twist on the tale, with Billy Hurst of Perrysburg. He bagged a dandy 140-class trophy buck last Saturday - the day after his 72nd birthday, in his first week of deer hunting - ever.

"He'd never been deer hunting in his life," confirmed son Greg Hurst of Walbridge. "We're calling it 'Billy's Birthday Buck.' "

Greg's wife, Ellen, started it all:

"I found myself in the typical situation with senior citizen parents," she said. "What do you get someone age 72 with everything? Then it hit me: My husband is an avid hunter, and Bill, my father-in-law, an enthusiastic fisherman and small game hunter.

"I went on the Internet and found a hunting lodge in Manchester, Ohio, [Adams County] and came to find out that the owner was not going to take any hunters this year. But because it was for Bill's 72nd birthday and his first time deer hunting, he decided to let me book the trip."
So all was set with a lodge overlooking the Ohio River. All of the deer on its property are free-ranging and the hunts are not guided. The managers set up hunters in likely areas, and the rest is up to the hunter. Along with harboring its share of good bucks, the lodge also encourages harvesting of does.


Before shotgun week, which ended last Sunday, Greg proceeded to equip Billy with a scoped, single-shot 12-gauge slug-gun and helped him sight it in. Then they hunted and the rest, as it is written, is history.

"First time he's ever shot at a deer, and he shoots a nine-point buck," said Greg. No buck fever there.

The buck was estimated to have a 140-class score in the Boone & Crockett book by Bass Pro staff in Rossford. It weighed 170 pounds field-dressed, and Louie Takacs in East Toledo, who is doing the processing, estimated at 210 pounds on the hook.

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Ah, Clem, I read that in the same paper you did - probably the same day.

Had to be exciting for him - and what a birthday present!