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I think it's safe to say that Cribbs deserves Hester type money. Cribbs could be a HOFer one day.
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I think it's safe to say that Cribbs deserves Hester type money. Cribbs could be a HOFer one day.
Cribbs will be a HOFer 
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Thanks for the correction. 
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Like it ir not, with a new regime likely to be installed it remains to be seen if Cribbs fits their plans.
He could very well be used a s a pawn to garner more draft picks via trade.
I hope not as I love the guys loyalty, toughness and attitude! I'm not however, wanting to see him overpaid! We have too much to do.
I would rather, at this point, overpay him "a little" than let him walk,....he is just too dangerous. That said, I also want to measure his heart--he says he wants to get a deal and stay,...how little will it take ?? Because these other big money jerkwads like Snyder and Jones are gonna come hard,....
If it's that important to do, then I say make Holmgren get it done NEXT WEEK while he's still ours,....
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I think he's got either 3 or 4 more years on his contract, he can't walk. But he can decide to sit out and I don't wanna see that either...
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I've always said a man needs to honor his word or his handshake, but for the first time in my life, I say redo his contract, the MAN has EARNED respect not only for his play but for his actions & words, The man wants to be a Browns...if we ruin this we dont deserve to win, I'm not saying hester type money but there is no reason we cant pay him a comfortable fair salary.
Josh is one of those rare players that come along every 10-20 years, talent loves the team the city, the Franchise needs to take care of him.
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It will be extremely interesting (to say the least) if the coming season remains an uncapped year. 
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Clay, I doubt you will see many folks on here disagree with you on paying Cribbs.. I certainly won't. He's a special player.. they don't come along very often and when they do, they need to be recognized and rewarded.. Before the game yesterday, Casserly said that would put his new deal on hold until the new top football guy comes aboard... Now this is a bit of a stretch,,but because they were talking about getting it done this year, and not are stalling until the new guy is here, I get the feeling that they already know that MH is coming.. That's why they said that. I know I know,, thats way out there.... 
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Career leader in kickoff return TDs, Browns' Cribbs gets Hall treatmentLINKY
Dec. 25, 2009
CBSSports.com wire reports
CLEVELAND -- Josh Cribbs' game-worn jersey was snatched up by the Pro Football Hall of Fame this week to be put on display.
At least someone finally got their hands on Cleveland's tough-to-tackle No. 16.
Cribbs, with an inspiring rags-to-riches journey to the NFL, became the league's career leader in kickoff returns for touchdown when he ran back two of at least 100 yards in the Browns' 41-34 win at Kansas City last week. An undrafted free agent who played quarterback at Kent State and has lined up in the shotgun for Cleveland, Cribbs has taken eight kickoffs all the way back.
He's not stopping there.
"Every single time I touch the football I'm like, 'Hey, I'm going to go. Not just good field position, but this is going back to the house,"' he said. "My eyes light up, it's like a kid on Christmas Day every time I get the ball."
Cribbs has been a glorious gift to the Browns (3-11), who can thank him for almost single-handedly carrying them to wins over Kansas City and Pittsburgh. The dreadlocked 26-year-old with the easy smile, bubbly personality and play-me-wherever-you-need-me-attitude has been Cleveland's MVP all season.
"Nothing more can be said about him," Pro Bowl tackle Joe Thomas said. "Josh has already proven he's the best returner that's ever been and this year he's stepping in and playing wildcat, playing quarterback, running down on special teams. He's done everything a human can possibly do to help this team win."
Last Sunday, Cribbs had a 100-yard return in the first quarter to give Cleveland a 10-3 lead, shooting him past Mel Gray, Dante Hall, Ollie Matson, Gale Sayers and Travis Williams for the most TD kickoff runbacks in history. Then, after the Chiefs scored 21 straight points in the second period to go up 24-13, Cribbs outdid himself with a career-best 103-yarder, matching Miami's Ted Ginn Jr. as the only players with two 100-yarders in one game.
The twin returns were not identical.
"On his first one," Browns coach Eric Mangini said, "Josh created some holes for Josh."
Cribbs busted through the arms of several would-be Kansas City tacklers on his 100-yard return before he switched on the afterburners at midfield and outran a few defenders. On return No. 2, Cribbs caught the ball 3 yards deep in the left side of the end zone, zigged at the 20-yard line, zagged at the 30 and zoomed untouched to the other end of Arrowhead Stadium.
Of all the positions -- wide receiver, running back, coverage-teams gunner and returner -- Cribbs has played, maybe the one that should be listed next to his name on the stat sheet is this: game changer.
Few current players or those of yesteryear have been able to turn over a football field like Cribbs, who before last week couldn't claim the title of being the best kick returner ever.
"I don't think it's arguable anymore," said Mangini. "I think he's won that argument."
Cribbs may win a few more before he's done.
What separates Cribbs from other return specialists is his size. The 6-foot-1, 215-pound Cribbs has a running back's build, and while he doesn't have blazing speed, he rarely -- if ever -- gets caught from behind. Plus, there so much more than makes him one of the most special, special teamers.
"He's got excellent vision," said Mangini, who has considered using Cribbs at safety. "He's got rare toughness. He has great strength to break tackles. There's been quite a few times where he may make a cut, there's someone on his legs and he breaks the tackle. He often times doesn't look like he's moving that fast, it's deceptively fast the way that he moves, and that's probably because he is such a strong runner as well."
Cribbs can turn a tiny crack into a gaping crevasse.
Fullback Lawrence Vickers, one of the deep blockers on the Browns' kick-return unit, knows that if he does his job, Cribbs can turn any return into a score.
"If I can do everything possible to give him something, he can take care of the rest," Vickers said. "He only needs a little bit. A lot of times he does everything by himself."
With his back against the shadow of the goal line, Cribbs said he focuses on the opposing kicker's run-up to see if the football is coming his way. At the moment of impact, he knows whether it's a squib, pooch, directional or if it's coming to him. Cribbs has been surprised that some teams have continued to kick to him, knowing they risk a long return or touchdown.
"A lot of teams respect me," he said. "Others have a bit of an ego and they get burnt by it. But when they respect you, you've got to take it and move on."
A breakaway threat on the field, Cribbs is grounded off it. Teammates use words like "humble" and "committed" to describe the Washington, D.C. native.
In October, Cribbs rushed over from practice to walk onto the field with the son of one of his former college coaches, who had died. When representatives from the Hall of Fame visited the Browns this week to get Cribbs' jersey, he was out delivering holiday toys to needy youngsters.
"Josh is a special person," Vickers said. "We all want to see him do good. Everybody loves him."
Cribbs has played the entire season amid on-and-off contract talks with the Browns. He has three years left on his existing deal, which pays him $6.77 million over six years. But Cribbs believes he has earned a hefty raise, and is there anyone in pro football who disagrees?
After his record-breaking performance in Kansas City, Cribbs expected to be presented with the finished paperwork when he arrived Monday at the team's facility. He promised to bring a pen and all he would have to do is put his autograph on the bottom line.
But that didn't happen, and despite reports negotiations are on hold, the Browns, who hired Mike Holmgren as team president this week, insist they will take care of Cribbs.
"He deserves it, man," said Browns defensive lineman Corey Williams. "He's proven time after time after time what he can do. It ain't like he's talking about it. He's backing it up. He deserves every last penny."
Cribbs wants it done before season's end.
"And in the right manner, what's good for this football team without creating a distraction," he said. "I'm trying to get it done as quickly as possible."
The Browns might be wise to sign him before Sunday.
After kickoff, Cribbs' price could rise. All I can say is...... PAY THE MAN!!!
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So is jc now going to have to convince holmgren that he was promised a new deal by the previous regime? Sad. 
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I think I'll reserve judgement until Holmgren actually starts work next week.. no sense in knocking the guy before he starts.
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Just my two cents, but based on the CBA issue I doubt if any player is offered or accepts a new contract with any team until the CBA issue is resolved, or some clarity is added to the situation....just sayin'
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it would be my hope that at the very least, Cribbs would be the exception to the rule...
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I agree, and since he is under contract he may be an exception under these extreme circumstances! 
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Something I just found that was posted 41 minutes ago at this point. Kinda looks as if my hopes were well founded.. Very interesting Quote:
Cribbs believes Holmgren will uphold Browns' promises of new deal
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BEREA, Ohio -- Josh Cribbs is eager to meet the new president of the Cleveland Browns. Mike Holmgren can write the large check that Cribbs can't wait to cash.
Cribbs said Friday that he's still confident he'll have a new contract soon, despite a recent front-office shakeup that has delayed negotiations while giving full authority to Holmgren.
Cribbs, who has been asking for a new deal since training camp, said a few weeks ago that the team assured him something would be done by the end of the season. With the Browns' final game two days away, that doesn't seem likely. But Cribbs said Holmgren already has been in contact with his agent, J.R. Rickert.
I'm pretty sure he (Holmgren) is going to start off on a good foot and take care of me," Cribbs said. "He knows football. I've got a lot of faith in him."
A call to Rickert by The Associated Press on Friday wasn't returned.
Cribbs says he has twice been promised by the Browns that he will receive a new deal, but he's still playing on a six-year, $6.77 million contract that has three years remaining on it. Cribbs said Browns owner Randy Lerner told him after last season that he would receive a new deal, then the team started over by firing general manager Phil Savage and coach Romeo Crennel.
Browns coach Eric Mangini wanted to see what he had in Cribbs before giving him a new contract, then watched Cribbs become the most valuable player on a 4-11 team entering Sunday's finale against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Earlier this season, Cribbs became the NFL's career leader in kickoff returns for touchdowns with eight.
"It's going to get done," Cribbs said of his contract. "I'd prefer it to be done before the end of the season, but beggars can't be choosers. I've waited this long."
Holmgren will go to work on fixing the Browns next week, when he is expected to arrive in Cleveland. Holmgren hasn't decided whether Mangini will return for a second season, but he said he wouldn't need long to make up his mind.
Cribbs and Mangini were at odds during training camp because of the contract, but the current three-game winning streak has won over the Browns' most dynamic player. Cribbs believes Mangini deserves another year in Cleveland.
"I think he's done a very good job of turning this program around," Cribbs said. "It'd be crazy (for Holmgren) to say, 'You're coach of the Browns, I won a Super Bowl, you're gone.' C'mon now, one year? I believe he deserves another year or so to turn this program around and get us winning games. I'd love to see him back."
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
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Now cribbs is saying that Holmgren gave the Browns the OK to redo the deal,, Quote:
Josh Cribbs says Mike Holmgren gave Browns green light to re-do Cribbs' deal
By Mary Kay Cabot
January 01, 2010, 3:59PM
THOMAS ONDREY / THE PLAIN DEALERJosh Cribbs says Mike Holmgren has given the Browns the go-ahead to extend Cribbs' contract.BEREA, Ohio -- Josh Cribbs and his agent said Friday that new president Mike Holmgren has given the Browns the green light to extend Cribbs' contract.
"Holmgren already gave the word to the coach and to the organization here,'' said Cribbs. "I'm sure he's going to start out on the right foot and take care of me. He knows football and he takes care of players and builds programs.''
Cribbs' wish was to have his deal re-done by the final game of the season, but he's eased up on that.
"I'm trying to get it done as soon as possible,'' he said. "It's going to get it done. I'd prefer it be done before the end of the season, by tomorrow. But I've waited this long and it's for a reason. Just think what it would've been if I had gotten it before everything I did this season. Everything works out for a reason.''
Cribbs, en route to his second Pro Bowl this season, scored three touchdowns on kickoff returns to become the NFL's all-time leader with eight. He also rushed for 334 yards out of the Wildcat.
"We're sitting real nice right now,'' he said. "I feel like it's looking up for me because of the success we're having as a special teams unit and an offense and the playing time I'm having.''
Holmgren will take over as president on Monday
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He did his job and carried a bunch of slackers. Pay the man. He has sold most of the tickets. Take it out of some soon to be gone's salary
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Good to hear we're going to get this resolved so I dont have to read about his wife's twitter account or listen to the twit-er neon sanders.
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Whenever the Browns are down... In my head, Josh Cribbs is the only guy that can get us back in the game...
Pay the MAN!
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I can't think of anyone in the league right now that should be more happy with their contract more than Cribbs. Please Mike,...make him happy. Right now, Cribbs has the making of being the best Cleveland Brown ever.
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