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Easily in the top 5 of biggest sell outs in entertainment history.
Really? The dude is 41 years old. If he was rapping about the streets and taking pictures with an AK and a bag of weed wouldnt he be a sell out then too? Seeing as how that isnt his lifestyle anymore. Or should he stay in the hood and sell drugs to keep his "street cred"?
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Easily in the top 5 of biggest sell outs in entertainment history.
Really? The dude is 41 years old. If he was rapping about the streets and taking pictures with an AK and a bag of weed wouldnt he be a sell out then too? Seeing as how that isnt his lifestyle anymore. Or should he stay in the hood and sell drugs to keep his "street cred"?
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Well, I do agree we all grow up at one point.
But when I hear an old song like No Vaseline I can't help but think: Cube you have become what you had hated.
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Well you have to admit, it's kind of funny that he ended up doing the same thing that he bashed the rest of NWA for doing.
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Easily in the top 5 of biggest sell outs in entertainment history.
Really? The dude is 41 years old. If he was rapping about the streets and taking pictures with an AK and a bag of weed wouldnt he be a sell out then too? Seeing as how that isnt his lifestyle anymore. Or should he stay in the hood and sell drugs to keep his "street cred"?
Really.
The dude STILL puts out albums acting all tough and edgy. In between such cinematic masterpieces as The Janky Promoters and Lottery Ticket. Movies in which he is STILL billed as ICE CUBE, not the name his parents gave him. That almost sounds like a stab at street cred.
You sure read into what I said. I only said he's a sell out. Didn't mention the streets, AKs or weed. I stand by it, too. If there is such a thing as being a sell out, he sure as heck is one.
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Easily in the top 5 of biggest sell outs in entertainment history.
Really? The dude is 41 years old. If he was rapping about the streets and taking pictures with an AK and a bag of weed wouldnt he be a sell out then too? Seeing as how that isnt his lifestyle anymore. Or should he stay in the hood and sell drugs to keep his "street cred"?
Really.
The dude STILL puts out albums acting all tough and edgy. In between such cinematic masterpieces as The Janky Promoters and Lottery Ticket. Movies in which he is STILL billed as ICE CUBE, not the name his parents gave him. That almost sounds like a stab at street cred.
You sure read into what I said. I only said he's a sell out. Didn't mention the streets, AKs or weed. I stand by it, too. If there is such a thing as being a sell out, he sure as heck is one.
Who cares if he uses the name Ice Cube to promote his movies, thats how he is known, he is in the business to make money. Now he is just in a different hustle. The goal has always been the same, the avenue is just different now.
Who says a "gangster" cant make kids movies, its called acting dude. Whether he is acting to be a gangster or acting in the movies, your sorely mistaken if you dont think these rappers are all actors to begin with. Its called entertainment, whether its music or on the big screen. Dont get mad at Cube just because you took the bait in thinking NWA were actual gangsters.
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The whole "sell-out" label itself is stupid. All you know about the artist is what they have to sell you. He adds another field of endeavor, so what? Different genres of films, too?! No way! Why isn't he just smoking weed and getting in fights on Friday and doing movies like All About the Benjamins? Clearly he's sold his soul.  More of the same recycled, judgmental, type-written diarrhea I've come accustomed to around here. Yeah, you guys have some BIIIIIG opinions. What are you overcompensating for? 
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I'm not mad at Ice Cube. Never thought he was an actual gangster.
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I'm not mad at Ice Cube. Never thought he was an actual gangster.
Just pointing out that he's a SELL OUT.
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Common slammed Ice Cube hard in "The B**** in Yoo"
I would post the lyrics, but they are a little blue.
"Use Higher Learning, don't take my words outta text, went from gangsta to Islam to the jocks of Das EFX."
Its just the whole song ripping Cube. It was hot back in the day.
And anymore, if you were Ice Cube; then you could give two bananas man; really. He's still eating. Getting his dough, making family movies and picking his own projects. None of that rap stuff matters anymore. He is on a whole other hustle. The rap game can be cut-throat, so once a cat can move on and still get his---he will---if he's smart.
At a certain point keeping it real is gonna keep you trapped. So you move on and find out that a lot of doors open up for you if you leave all that thug ish behind.
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I vote for other and take Krazyie Bone. Dont really listen to rap no more but krazyie and bone never gets old..
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Hard Time Hustlin' was great by Krayzie and of course BTNH never gets old. It's just a shame the direction rap is heading. The beats are becoming more synthesized, too quick, and robotic. Unfortunately, so is the actual rap. Like with any music, please just take me back to the 90s. 
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I totally agree with ya, the old school rap is way better then todays crap. thats why i dont listen to rap much more. This new stuff is just whack if ya ask me, alot of singing about b.s. and too commercialized. But i still listen to bone cuz there bone and they never get old, even though i like there old stuff better, there still one of the best if ya ask me.
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I totally agree with ya, the old school rap is way better then todays crap. thats why i dont listen to rap much more. This new stuff is just whack if ya ask me, alot of singing about b.s. and too commercialized. But i still listen to bone cuz there bone and they never get old, even though i like there old stuff better, there still one of the best if ya ask me.
I talked to Anthony(Krayzie) a few weeks back. Stan,Steve, and him have been spending a lot of time in the studio and you should be hearing quite a bit of new stuff coming from them over the next year or so.
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I totally agree with ya, the old school rap is way better then todays crap. thats why i dont listen to rap much more. This new stuff is just whack if ya ask me, alot of singing about b.s. and too commercialized. But i still listen to bone cuz there bone and they never get old, even though i like there old stuff better, there still one of the best if ya ask me.
I talked to Anthony(Krayzie) a few weeks back. Stan,Steve, and him have been spending a lot of time in the studio and you should be hearing quite a bit of new stuff coming from them over the next year or so.
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I really wish Kray would just do his solo stuff. All of his solo albums have been better than any Bone albums after "Art of War". Bone's last album Uni5 was down right horrible and is the worst thing they have put out yet. Don't know why they waited for Flesh to get out of jail, he was horrible on the album.
Layzie's raps are stale, and he recycle's his lyrics to much. Wish can't make it on his own but he and Krayzie are very close and will always be a part anything Krayzie does. I like some of his verses here and there but I don't think Wish can carry a Solo album. Flesh has never really felt like a true part of Bone and all of his Solo stuff has been garbage.
Bizzy's Crossroads 2010 CD just came out a few months ago and I actually dig it. I haven't really liked a whole album of his since the Gift. Crossroads 2010 is dubbed his rock album but it's more pop. Kind of like a Michael Jackson/Black Eyed Peas/Bizzy Bone mix. It is something different and that is probably why I like it.
If Layzie, Flesh and Wish all retired I wouldn't care, but I hope that Bizzy and Krayzie keep making music. Both are versatile and can stay fresh. The other three have the same style that they always have had and to me it's gotten stale.
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No offense, but good for him. I bet he makes a lot more doing the kiddie flicks than he did being a gangster in Trespass.
At some point in time you have to move on, can't "act" like a gangster forever. Not unless you want to lose everything you've gained and wind up back in the slums, in jail or dead.
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Good for him.. but who wears a life jacket when you are fishing 40 feet from shore? 
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Good for him.. but who wears a life jacket when you are fishing 40 feet from shore?
Maybe he can't swim?? 
He was too busy as a kid learning how to posing with AK47's in pictures to learn how to swim.
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STanley(flesh) and Steven(Layzie) are brothers and they are all still very close,though there has bene some discord with Bryon(Bizzie) in the past,even when he was in jail they all considered Flesh part of the group. Flesh was there through the starting of the group and their days of doing talent shows in high school as the Band Aid Boys, he was also one of the brains behind going to LA and practically stalking Eazy E.
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STanley(flesh) and Steven(Layzie) are brothers and they are all still very close,though there has bene some discord with Bryon(Bizzie) in the past,even when he was in jail they all considered Flesh part of the group. Flesh was there through the starting of the group and their days of doing talent shows in high school as the Band Aid Boys, he was also one of the brains behind going to LA and practically stalking Eazy E.
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Thanks for the history lesson..but I already knew all that.
What I meant was I (as in FreeAgent) have never felt like Flesh/Stan/Layzie's older brother was a true member of Bone. Flesh's vocals were very limited on Creepin on a Come up, E1999 & Art of War. He also wasn't even on B.O.N.E. Enterprises' Faces of Death.
Let's look at some of Bone's biggest hits:
Thuggish Ruggish Bone
Crossroads
1st of tha Month
Mo' Murda
Look into my eyes
Thug Love
None of those had Flesh IIRC. I'd say For the Love of Money would be the biggest hit that has Flesh as vocals.
Flesh was featured heavily on Ressurection but then went to jail and wasn't on Thug World Order or Strength and Loyalty.
Also both E1999 and Art of War featured only Krayzie, Layzie, Bizzy and Wish on the Cover Art.
So to me he never really felt like part of the group. To me it's like Twista when he use to rap a lot (no pun intended) with Do or Die early in his career. He wasn't a member of Do or Die but was friends and did a lot of projects with them. That is kind of like Flesh to me.
I haven't kept up with bone over the last two years. I've heard Uni5 and I thought it was horrible. Bizzy(Byron) was on it so I thought they patched things up but he talks about things on Crossroads 2010. On Stonehenge he says:
"I'm regarded as a sell-out, I'm a false friend but the truth be I was the one who was sold out"
So I guess the love hate relationship continues.
But all in all I know the members of Bone feel like Flesh is one of them, but I was talking about how I felt. But I could really care less at this point. I like both Krayzie and Bizzy, but the rest I could take em or leave em.
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STanley(flesh) and Steven(Layzie) are brothers and they are all still very close,though there has bene some discord with Bryon(Bizzie) in the past,even when he was in jail they all considered Flesh part of the group. Flesh was there through the starting of the group and their days of doing talent shows in high school as the Band Aid Boys, he was also one of the brains behind going to LA and practically stalking Eazy E.
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Thanks for the history lesson..but I already knew all that.
What I meant was I (as in FreeAgent) have never felt like Flesh/Stan/Layzie's older brother was a true member of Bone. Flesh's vocals were very limited on Creepin on a Come up, E1999 & Art of War. He also wasn't even on B.O.N.E. Enterprises' Faces of Death.
Let's look at some of Bone's biggest hits:
Thuggish Ruggish Bone
Crossroads
1st of tha Month
Mo' Murda
Look into my eyes
Thug Love
None of those had Flesh IIRC. I'd say For the Love of Money would be the biggest hit that has Flesh as vocals.
Flesh was featured heavily on Ressurection but then went to jail and wasn't on Thug World Order or Strength and Loyalty.
Also both E1999 and Art of War featured only Krayzie, Layzie, Bizzy and Wish on the Cover Art.
So to me he never really felt like part of the group. To me it's like Twista when he use to rap a lot (no pun intended) with Do or Die early in his career. He wasn't a member of Do or Die but was friends and did a lot of projects with them. That is kind of like Flesh to me.
I haven't kept up with bone over the last two years. I've heard Uni5 and I thought it was horrible. Bizzy(Byron) was on it so I thought they patched things up but he talks about things on Crossroads 2010. On Stonehenge he says:
"I'm regarded as a sell-out, I'm a false friend but the truth be I was the one who was sold out"
So I guess the love hate relationship continues.
But all in all I know the members of Bone feel like Flesh is one of them, but I was talking about how I felt. But I could really care less at this point. I like both Krayzie and Bizzy, but the rest I could take em or leave em.
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history lesson but I was giving you a perspective of why, despite most of their sucess coming without him, the other members have stuck by Flesh over the years years. In school I probably knew Stan better than any of the others and I know he was the driving force behind there early doings. It was basically his group he put together, he was the one doing most of the beats and writing.
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What kinda artists are you currently listening to, Candy?
I know this thread was about "Best rapper ever", but it's a dead thread, so lets bring some new names into this....
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Jay Cole, Kudi, Eminem, Kanye,
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I'm listenin' to guys like Big KRIT, Yelawolf, Mac Miller, XV, Vdo, etc. right now.
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