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Pool, 25, contemplated retiring, but his agent said he plans to resume his career. "Brodney absolutely intends on playing football for many years to come," agent Ben Dogra wrote in an email. "He has been checked out and has a clean bill of health. He is anxious to play football in 2010." http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/02/gm_tom_heckert_says_browns_wil.htmlI think pool is making a mistake
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I just didn't expect him to come back.. I'm surprised...
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I like BP. I'd like to have him back.
If he is OK...................
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I hate to say it but I think he's getting ready to go to the oatmeal factory if he seriously tries to play again. Just freaking retire, dude. 
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As far as i'm concerned, as cautious as the NFL is becoming now concerning concussions...If he gets medically cleared then I see no reason why he shouldn't continue to play.
Though saying that there still is a long term affect that he could be looking at. If the guy doesn't want his brain to turn into mush by the time he's 35 then he should reitre. But it's hard to tell a young guy that he no longer can live his dream anymore.
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But it's hard to tell a young guy that he no longer can live his dream anymore.
Yeah, you might have to drag this guy off the field in a stretcher do get him to hang it up. Hopefully that doesn't happen, but he knows the risks and he's willing to take them. Don't stick your head in there anymore Brodney!
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Wow, that helps for the four games he plays a season. He better get one of those new magic mouth piece that makes you have perfect tackling form, preventing concussions. He is still young so maybe he can go without having another one but if he has another bad one this year I don't see how he wouldn't retire.
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Wow, that helps for the four games he plays a season.
talk about an exaggeration., Pool played in 71 or 80 possible games over the last 5 seasons....
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Glad he will be back, but I really hope he doesn't get anymore concussions..
Still need to draft two safeties.. Elam is not a starter.
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I'm mixed on this one. I think he is a great kid ( from what I can tell) and he has improved quite a bit & takes "some" pressure of the need at the position. but track record on repeating this injury work against him in the extreme. So even though i don't really know him, he is one of my browns and I worry about his health and his life after football.
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There have been a lot of guys who have played with a lot more concussions than Brodney Pool. He's a grown man who knows whether or not he is capable of playing. And if he plays I want him on the Browns.
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There have been a lot of guys who have played with a lot more concussions than Brodney Pool. He's a grown man who knows whether or not he is capable of playing. And if he plays I want him on the Browns.
That's my attitude. Only he knows what risks might be associated with continued play.
If he's good with it, who am I to question the decision?
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we should still draft a safety even if Pool comes back.
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Exactly whether he wants to come back or not, he still isnt good enough to start on the better half of the teams in the nfl.
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Always liked pool, I think him and Sean Jones were going to be our starters for years to come. Still like both. I really hope he's able to stay healthy, were a better team when hes on the field.
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we should still draft a safety even if Pool comes back.
I am not saying we should rule it out...that or look FA.
I guess it just depends on who is available to sign or draft when it is our selection.
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Always liked pool, I think him and Sean Jones were going to be our starters for years to come. Still like both. I really hope he's able to stay healthy, were a better team when hes on the field.
I did too AD4MVP. Th truth is that like some many players that have been here the last 10 years, both SJ and BP were overvalued by the fans because they are merely competent. I like Brodney but healthy or not he isnt a difference maker at the safety position.
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I bet most, if not all, of us can say at one point in our lives we made a conscience decision to do something we knew could seriously hurt us, yet we did it anyway.
I'm sure he's been given the facts, possibilities, odds, etc. And he will make his decision accordingly, and only he has to live with that decision, so be it.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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I am not saying we should rule it out...that or look FA.
I guess it just depends on who is available to sign or draft when it is our selection.
The Browns will draft a safety..and I'm not saying it lightly ..there are plenty of safeties that are big upgrades over Pool/Elam..
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He may play, but that dosent mean it's for us,
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He has to be considered unreliable at this point.
Sure, he's not going to retire, and he's going to go to camp with us in the summer, but we absolutely MUST prepare to be without him.
Adams is decent, as is Elam, but neither is a long-term solution of any kind for us. That right there is one spot needing help, then Pool being a question mark as well means that we've got two spots of concern at one position.
Browns is the Browns
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I agree, I like Pool but I'd rather not see him play again then see him being lead off the field on a stretcher. Brain injuries are nothing to mess with.
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When your long term health is the issue, you retire.
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He has to be considered unreliable at this point.
there it is in a nutshell.. I'd love for him to be able to come back,, but can we rely on him. I think the answer is no, we can't.
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I'm just wondering if the Browns will retain BP knowing what they know,
Just me but I wouldnt put a player in his condition in harms way or in a postion to make it worse or permanite.
It's still BP decission but he needs to do it elsewhere
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I'm just wondering if the Browns will retain BP knowing what they know,
Just me but I wouldnt put a player in his condition in harms way or in a postion to make it worse or permanite.
It's still BP decission but he needs to do it elsewhere
Come on Clay.
In the end it's his decision. Now you are sounding like a Democrat who thinks they know how to spend your money better than you do.
The information is there.
If he elects to play, it is all on him.
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Adams is decent, as is Elam,
As is Elam? Umm ok. 
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I know and Thats what I said, or ment at the end. it's all on him,
I guess I look at it diffrently, We all know if something does happen there will be people pointing fingers saying why would the browns let him play knowing the risk, but your right in the end it's up to him, I was just stating a diffrent point of view, thats all.
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If he elects to play, it is all on him.
I agree, it is all on him..
The question is whether or not the Browns want to invest in a guy that may not be able to contribute..... at least not all season.
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As is Elam? Umm ok.
The word was decent... not Good, definitely not Great. Decent.
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Obviously the Browns aren't going to tell him that it's not safe for him to play. I think it's more they have to decide on how much they think he can contribute to the team. Pool would've made it much easier if he said he wasn't physically/mentally fit to play.
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A better description of Elam is that he isn't God-Awful. Decent would imply that he is adequate. Which he is not. Should have been Adams and Pool starting at the beginning of the season.
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 And that's why it's all on him,....I don't want to see him risk his permanent, long-term health. But, if he decides to go for it, then I'm behind him hoping for the best. He won't do it unless he feels he can contribute. It's his call.
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A better description of Elam is that he isn't God-Awful. Decent would imply that he is adequate. Which he is not. Should have been Adams and Pool starting at the beginning of the season.
Arguing who should be starting between Adams, Pool and Elam is pointless. They all have huge holes in their game, they all have some positives in their game. If you can decipher who is the best player between them, then bravo, but to me, what's the point?
At some point, our safeties need to be replaced with starters that have some real NFL talent.
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Elam made me long for Chris Cocker. Something I didnt think was possible.
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Obviously the Browns aren't going to tell him that it's not safe for him to play.
Given the lack of Safeties on this team, if the Browns don't make him an offer, I think thats about the same as saying it's not safe for him to play..
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I guess that's the status quo, "less-than-honest" way,....just the way things go these days; but it would get the job done.
Feel bad for Poolie, but he does have to perform (contribute), if he makes the call to stay. Browns take the easy way out,....
We'll get a real look at what the deal is when they draft, or bypass, Berry.
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Browns do NOT tender Pool ...... http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/03/cleveland_browns_tender_six_re.htmlThe Browns gave the second-round tender to six of their restricted free agents this evening, but safety Brodney Pool wasn't one of them. The players are safety Abram Elam, running back Jerome Harrison, linebacker D'Qwell Jackson, linebacker Matt Roth, linebacker Jason Trusnik and fullback Lawrence Vickers. The tenders assure the players of one-year salaries of $1.759 for 2010. If any teams sign them to an offer sheet, the Browns have seven days to match the contract offer or will receive a second-round pick in return. The Browns did not give tenders to Pool and tight end Greg Estandia. Those players become unrestricted free agents at 12:01 Friday morning.
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