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I personally hope we go after Mike Bell. He would be a perfect compliment to harrison, he's only 26 and doesn't have a lot of mileage on him.
The NFL network had a blurb about us going after Bell... we could do a helluva lot worse... Allows us to use a draft pick this year on something else...
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I would not call Carr a retread QB, a QB without a line, yes.
I would like to see him with a team and offense that suits his abilities.
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Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the New York Jets have traded Rhodes to the Arizona Cardinals for a fourth-round pick this year and a seventh-round pick next year.
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I'm curious about Carr. He was highly touted out of college. He took a beating with Houston and no line. He has been on two teams with no question starters while he was there. He hasn't played a lot over the past few years so his health should be good.
My question is what does he bring to the table? Is he accurate? Does he have a strong arm? Is he intelligent? If anyone knows these answers, please oblige me with your knowledge.
From what I've seen of Quinn, I can't believe Carr would be worse.
Just for the record, I still believe McNabb is being sought after big time. I also believe it is not out of the question that we get him.
For the record, I would take Mike Bell in a minute.
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I'm wondering if we made any attempt to get him
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I remember Carr having a very good arm and being accurate. I also remember the sacks.
Remember he was the first overall pick when Houston came back into the league.
Now, how much of that was Carr, and how much was the terrible line typical of an expansion team is debatable. But, even as a backup, he has more to offer than Anderson. And I think that he would be an improvement over Quinn, who has not shown the ability to put the ball downfield.
I would not be surprized if the Browns drafted a QB in the third or fourth round. Lefevor would be on my radar.
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"remember he was the first pick... blah blah blah.. remember he had the arm.. the accuracy.. blah blah blah... "
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I would not be surprized if the Browns drafted a QB in the third or fourth round. Lefevor would be on my radar.
Tony Pike is the guy
If we draft a qb, I would rather it be....well....nevermind.
In all seriousness, I don't think Carr would be a bad option, though I don't think that is exactly what the brain trust wants.
My feeling is a trade is in the works. I am just not sure who we might be trading...it's got to be one of our qbs plus something else.
Anderson is the question mark...and hear me out here.
On a couple of occasions Holmgren as said he likes to be fair to players. If it was so dead set we were going to dump Anderson, I think we would have done that on Friday so he could be involved in the first wave of FA activity. If we are just keeping him to jerk him around until the 19th....that isn't right and I don't think we are doing that.
So that leaves us to answer the question of why he is still on the roster?
Is he a trade target with another team and they are trying to work out contractual details, or is Quinn a trade target and we don't want to drop Anderson because we may actually keep him?? I doubt the team wants to enter the season with whoever we might get in a trade....say McNabb, and then have Ratliff and some drafted rookie as our stable of QBs heading in to the season.
Anderson is still on the team for a reason...
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Saw this, really lame. I would have made this trade for KRhodes, he could immediately start for us. Eh, it's too bad.
I'm wondering if we made any attempt to get him
Too bad Rhodes would never play for our HC again....we could have landed Boldin and Rhodes for a 3rd and 4th....still having 1st to 3rd round picks and 4x5th rounders....huge upgrades at WR and FS....good luck finding similar talent in those rounds....why does Ozzie always do the obvious stuff, like trading up for Ngata, snatching Oher, taking Boldin for next to nothing...while we either do nothing or very risky stuff....I'd like 1 Browns FO to finally do the OBVIOUS, NOT outsmarting themselves...take Oher, take Maualuga, get involved with Boldin trade....stuff like that you know...that makes the team much better 
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The Eagles have three QBs right now.
Vick will prolly be traded,but to whom?
Do they really want to trade McNabb? They are a player or two away from being a contender.
Kolb is seen as their future,but it may be quite a while before he gets the call if McNabb stays on the team.
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In all seriousness, I don't think Carr would be a bad option, though I don't think that is exactly what the brain trust wants.
Yeah, he's not so bad I guess.. thing is,, I get the feeling that unless we pull off a trade that nets us a young up can comer, then whoever we get, is stopgap.. I"m sure Carr would be just that...
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The Eagles have three QBs right now.
Vick will prolly be traded,but to whom?
Do they really want to trade McNabb? They are a player or two away from being a contender.
Kolb is seen as their future,but it may be quite a while before he gets the call if McNabb stays on the team.
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Quinn and Rogers to the Iggles for Kolb and a 4th rounder.
I wasn't pimping McNabb so much....it doesn't matter who our target is.... The emphasis of my post is that Anderson is still here for a reason.
He is a central figure in this if we trade him or trade Quinn.
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Anderson is the question mark...and hear me out here.
On a couple of occasions Holmgren as said he likes to be fair to players. If it was so dead set we were going to dump Anderson, I think we would have done that on Friday so he could be involved in the first wave of FA activity. If we are just keeping him to jerk him around until the 19th....that isn't right and I don't think we are doing that.
So that leaves us to answer the question of why he is still on the roster?
Is he a trade target with another team and they are trying to work out contractual details, or is Quinn a trade target and we don't want to drop Anderson because we may actually keep him?? I doubt the team wants to enter the season with whoever we might get in a trade....say McNabb, and then have Ratliff and some drafted rookie as our stable of QBs heading in to the season.
Anderson is still on the team for a reason...
When you look at it like that, I think your right.
I also think the Brass are keeping all their options open right up until the last possible second.
The fact that Holmgren hasn’t come out and endorsed either QB actually speaks volumes about what he actually thinks. And when you factor in all the rumors of the Browns be linked to nearly every FA and backup QB in the league that holds out any possibility of being a starter for the immediate future that also says something too.
I know this is bound to ruffle quite a few feathers, but I think if it comes down to having to actually choose between DA and BQ, BQ may be the odd man out. While neither QB would ever be confused with being a solid NFL QB, DA IMO is the better option. BQ is just totally inaccurate and that is death to an NFL QB.
Now DA isn’t all the accurate either (that’s for damned sure), however he is heads and shoulders above BQ. Again that’s just MHO. DA has moments where he is extremely accurate while BQ never had moments of extreme accuracy. Pick your poison I guess.
With all options still on the table that tells me they haven’t swept away the idea of getting DA re-signed to a more team friendly contact, otherwise why hold on to him? It just doesn’t make sense if you’re committed to going in another direction. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Something tells me the Browns want DA as a plan B if it comes down to not getting a trade done or a FA signing to their liking. And that also tells me what they think of BQ.
If BQ was the man, even for the time being DA would be gone by now I think???
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Well, if you believe what you read and Carr is talking to and/or coming to visit Cleveland and........ You believe that we are talking to Philly, even if only because our GM was an employee there a month ago....... Then we could very well be thinking about trading both Quinn and Anderson and ending up with Carr and McNabb or Kolb. Now, all of that happening could be classified as fun, I guess. It certainly would keep us typing for the next month....... 
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The fact that Holmgren hasn’t come out and endorsed either QB actually speaks volumes about what he actually thinks.
Well, yes and no......if he's actively involved in trade talks about either one or both I wouldn't expect him to say anything about either guy. Of course, that says something in and of itself, I guess.
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Good thing you put that MHO in there because I was gonna ask you which team you were watching. Here's some food for thought on the whole QB "thing"..... Might DA look a bit better than Quinn at times because he's played in 3 times as many games? DA has played in all or part of 39 games. Quinn has appeared in 14.
Let me also say that if, at this point, we're worried enough about DA's $2 million dollar bonus to cut him for that reason and that reason only then we're in a pretty sad state of affairs. Dump him because you think he's an INT machine not because you owe him what amounts to NFL chump change.
Of course, that's easy for me to say it isn't my money.......
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Let me also say that if, at this point, we're worried enough about DA's $2 million dollar bonus to cut him for that reason and that reason only then we're in a pretty sad state of affairs.
I doubt the 2 mill is the reason to dump him, it's the salary the balance of the year that's high for what he brings...
Of course, in the end, if it's decided he is the best option, then it's moot,,they'll pay it.
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I know he isn't a free agent, but Lendale White is available and would look really good running between the tackles in Brown and Orange. He is big at 6-1 235, healthy, and young (drafted 2nd round in 2006) . Not sure what it would take, but I'm guessing a 4th rounder? If we could trade for Mcnabb, get Lendale White..That is a nice start. I know it is not a huge Priority, but the guy is solid and would give us options at RB. I was just thinking.
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Well, if you believe what you read and Carr is talking to and/or coming to visit Cleveland and........
You believe that we are talking to Philly, even if only because our GM was an employee there a month ago.......
Then we could very well be thinking about trading both Quinn and Anderson and ending up with Carr and McNabb or Kolb.
Now, all of that happening could be classified as fun, I guess.
It certainly would keep us typing for the next month.......
If that were all really the case, then we might as well go ahead and draft Sam now,...I want no part of re-treads.
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Quinn and Rogers to the Iggles for Kolb and a 4th rounder.
There seems to be some chatter about Rogers getting moved. Does he make alot of sense for the eagles??
Just thinking here, but Rogers does make alot of sense in Carolina. The defensive line has taken a huge hit. So what about Matt Moore, is he a trade option? He actually seemed to play decently once given the chance. I was shocked to see a first and third tender for the guy and the release of Delhomme. But, maybe DA and Rogers for Moore and picks/player is an option. I think Davidson is still the panthers coordinator, and didn't DA's and Davidson's paths cross with the browns??
Kolb is still my first choice, i just don't know if the eagles really have the need for Rogers.
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There seems to be some chatter about Rogers getting moved. Does he make alot of sense for the eagles??
So far, it's just a few media types speculating.. But then,, that's how these things start...
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There seems to be some chatter about Rogers getting moved. Does he make alot of sense for the eagles??
So far, it's just a few media types speculating.. But then,, that's how these things start...
I know I just seen that some dude from Miami is suspended for the first 8 games of the season....wonder if they would part when Henne for Rodgers?
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i can't see that happening. Henne is still very raw and Rogers is hands down the superior player. It would cost them more picks. But they do need a DT. Curious as to why they did not go after one early in freeagency. They had to have known the test results before FA started.
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well I would take some of their picks for him too....or maybe Ronnie Brown 
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Tennesee also needs some help at D-Line and a backup to Young. I wonder if they would part with their first for Rogers and Quinn.. They lost Vanden Bosch, Kearse retired and Haynesworth in the last two years.. We have 2-3 years before we are contending and Rogers value will plummet by then..if you are going to trade him do it now while his value is high.
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Tennesee also needs some help at D-Line and a backup to Young. I wonder if they would part with their first for Rogers and Quinn.. They lost Vanden Bosch, Kearse retired and Haynesworth in the last two years.. We have 2-3 years before we are contending and Rogers value will plummet by then..if you are going to trade him do it now while his value is high.
I would make that trade in a heartbeat.....as long as we dump Anderson too haha....off the top of my head I cant remember what pick the Titans have in the first this year...but I am sure we could improve if that happened
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Rogers will also be turning 31 next week and he dosn't seem like a guy who will be playing in this league for more than a couple more years at best, so yes, he does look like he'd be some great trade bait for some younger talent or picks.
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I would take it, we could really package some picks together to make a blockbuster trade
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It would depend on how close Tennesse thinks they are..They were dominant with Haynesworth and Rogers is better than him if you ask me.
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Tennesee also needs some help at D-Line and a backup to Young. I wonder if they would part with their first for Rogers and Quinn.. They lost Vanden Bosch, Kearse retired and Haynesworth in the last two years.. We have 2-3 years before we are contending and Rogers value will plummet by then..if you are going to trade him do it now while his value is high.
As I said before, I like Rogers. but as Branch Rickey said , its' better to trade them a year too early,than a year too late.
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That's just it, it has to be a team that's ready to contend right now.
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I would take it, we could really package some picks together to make a blockbuster trade
my sniffer tells me that is what is in the works..... some kinda big trade
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After getting a rid of Williams, I hope that we keep Rodgers and move him back to the line. Wouldn't be terribly upset if we move him but we NEED someone for the line if we do.
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And he's the guy who said, "Ohio State sucks!" on Jim Rome is Burning. So people definitely wouldn't like him.
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