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That's what he said anyway. And even if he did lose 30 pounds that doesn't mean anything unless you can keep the weight off.

Here's a quote from Fisher on White, "I don't blame any player for wanting to play and wanting more play-time. But in his case actions speak louder than words. And I have no further comment."

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Aaron Kampman, a two-time Pro Bowl defensive end, has signed with the Jacksonville Jaguars as an unrestricted free agent, the team announced Sunday.

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I remember Carr having a very good arm and being accurate. I also remember the sacks.

Remember he was the first overall pick when Houston came back into the league.

Now, how much of that was Carr, and how much was the terrible line typical of an expansion team is debatable.

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I believe this is true, but I also remember him having some quirk associated with his delivery. It wasn't over the top, but perhaps 3/4? Not sure exactly, but I am sure that supposed QB guru Chris Palmer changed his delivery, or attemped to do so, by having Carr throw over 10 ft ladders or something like that. Not sure if it worked as he spent most of his time on his back!

Anybody else remember any details about this?

I cut some form the bottom because it was really long.

From ESPN, originally Published: July 12, 2007

Don't think, just throw

David Carr got beat up, put down and thrown out of Houston. But to find success in Carolina, he really needs to get out of his head, writes Seth Wickersham.Email Print Comments By Seth Wickersham
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EACH THROW IS AN ACT OF DEFIANCE.

David Carr will never admit that, of course, but just watch him as he winds up. The quarterback gurus say his elbow should be level with his shoulder, like a waiter carrying a platter. But during a May Carolina Panthers practice, Carr's elbow hangs low, parallel with the bottom of his rib cage. His arm stops shy of a full windup, too, never rearing behind his head like Tom Brady's does. When it lashes forward, it drifts off at a three-quarter angle, instead of 90°, like Peyton Manning's. Once the ball leaves Carr's hand, his arm slaps across his body, as opposed to straight down, capping his assault on proper throwing mechanics.


It seems impossible to throw with any force from such an angle, which is why Carolina's four other QBs curiously -- and nervously -- look on. Three of them are shorter than the 6'3'' Carr. Not one of them has ever made as much money as he has or been as hyped as he has. Nor have they been as battered. And nobody ever fell in love with their arms the way the NFL did with Carr's. His motion, however rule-breaking, is blinding. One second the ball is clasped at the end of a million-dollar limb. The next moment it's spiraling so tightly on a 20-yard comeback route to Drew Carter that the rotating laces disappear, splitting not only two defensive backs but also the 1 and 8 of Carter's jersey.

That Carr employs this motion, after five NFL seasons, is his way of saying that he will quarterback in a way that's natural for him, not his coaches. His reward for such faith is a high fivefrom starter Jake Delhomme as he passes by to reclaim his huddle.



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IT SOUNDS LUDICROUS, but if David Carr is going to rebuild his career, he's going to have to get dumber. Watch guys like Brady and Carson Palmer, and there's a temptation to frame them as brainy types, the thinking man's quarterbacks whose games are crafty and cunning. But they're not. That's not to say Brady and Palmer are dumb. In fact, they're geniuses, football savants in the tradition of Joe Montana and Dan Marino, because they're smart enough not to overthink the game.

Carr, 27, is an overthinker. That happens when the perils of quarterbacking have crept into your psyche, so much so that in the chaos of the pocket, you pause for a millisecond to consider doubt or failure, delaying your decisionmaking ever so slightly. Needless to say, it's an unwanted trait in a game that doesn't allow for hesitation. The proof came last March when Carr -- after being the inaugural pick of the expansion Texans; after suffering 249 sacks and hundreds of other hits the past five years; after a 2253 mark as a starter; after completing a league-leading 68 percent of his passes in 2006 -- was dangled for a trade, and nobody bit.

The fact that Carr had to be released was humiliating, not only for him but also for the Texans. The team had to take a $6 million cap hit and part with two draft picks for his replacement, Matt Schaub, who got a six-year, $48 million contract despite just two career starts. That no one, not a single team, would trade for Carr was a rather loud rebuke, one that confirmed what most scouts whispered only off the record: He was too damaged to recover from the unprecedented beating he suffered in Houston, which included 76 sacks in 2002 -- Carr's lone NFL record.

Thanks Lampdogg, I knew there was something there. It does confirm he is considered an accurate passer despite the mechanics.

Maybe a proven QB guru like Holmgren can get into Carrs head and turn it around....stranger things have happened?

No probs.
I'd be willing to bring Carr in as a backup, and if BQ falters then maybe Carr can resurrect his career. Stranger things have happened with QBs.

Pashos signed 10.3 million 3yr deal....welcome to Cleveland

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Maybe a proven QB guru like Holmgren can get into Carrs head and turn it around....stranger things have happened?

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Why is it that people think that Holmgren is going to coach anyone. He's the president of the team,, he hires guys to do the coaching.. LOL

Now, maybe haskell is a guy that can get inside his head.. that's possible....

So a 31 year old defensive tackle coming off an injury is more valuable than a 24 year old potential franchise QB who has already started and had success in the NFL?

Come on, this is a joke right?

Adam Schefter via Twitter account.....I am sure this will be deleted tho.

Not really.

When are we gonna release St. Claire?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Browns lock up Pashos
Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2010 3:35 PM ET
Veteran offensive lineman Tony Pashos left Washington last night without signing a contract.

And he won't be signing a contract there, at least not in the near future.

Adam Schefter reports that Pashos has agreed to terms on a three-year, $10.3 million deal with the Cleveland Browns.

Pashos entered the league as a fifth-round pick of the Ravens in 2003, and he started every game at right tackle in 2006. He signed with the Jags as an unrestricted free agent in 2007, and he was released last year after refusing to take a pay cut.

Pashos eventually landed with the 49ers via a one-year deal, but he was placed on injured reserve after appearing in five 2009 games, with one start.

Pashos presumably will be in the mix at right tackle, across from Joe Thomas, the current anchor of the Cleveland offensive line.

thanks bones

Sure thing!

welcome to the line Pashos.
Now does he play guard or tackle??

Three's no crowd: QB-deep Eagles will pay Vick $1.5M roster bonus
By Jason La Canfora | NFL.com

The Philadelphia Eagles told Michael Vick's agent, Joel Segal, that they will pick up the quarterback's $1.5 million roster bonus this week, according to a league source.

Vick, who's due the bonus by Wednesday, has said he wants to be a starter next season, but the Eagles likely will not trade him unless another team offers at least a second-round draft pick.

In fact, the Eagles are carrying three quarterbacks who have started in the NFL with success, but the team hasn't attempted to deal any of them. A team source has maintained that Philadelphia expects Vick, starter Donovan McNabb and backup Kevin Kolb all to be in training camp this summer.


Sources from two teams who would be in the market for a quarterback said last month that they don't expect Vick to be dealt until the preseason. That's when his value could be enhanced by strong preseason performances, a full offseason of work with his team and injuries/uncertainty at quarterback on other clubs.

NFL Network insider Michael Lombardi reported last month that the Eagles plan on keeping Vick and even might increase his role in the offense. Vick would be due $5.2 million next season if the Eagles keep him.

Vick didn't see much playing time for Philadelphia last season, his first in the NFL after he missed 2007 and 2008 while serving a federal dogfighting sentence. He finished with 86 passing yards and 95 rushing yards, and he threw for one touchdown and ran for two more.

Vick was the No. 1 overall draft pick by the Atlanta Falcons in 2001 and spent six seasons with the team. He was a three-time Pro Bowl pick during his Falcons tenure.

I don't for one minute believe they'll keep the three of them through camp.

McNabb don't excite me much, Kolb is a bit unknown but at least younger and Vick...well, Holmgren said something exciting was coming. I don't care for him but he brought excitement for sure.

[quoteThe Philadelphia Eagles told Michael Vick's agent, Joel Segal, that they will pick up the quarterback's $1.5 million roster bonus this week, according to a league source.

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there ya go he's as good as gone

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ai...p&type=lgns

Raiders release RB Justin Fargas
By JOSH DUBOW, AP Sports Writer
Mar 6, 9:42 pm EST

Buzz up! 2 PrintALAMEDA, Calif. (AP)—The Oakland Raiders released running back Justin Fargas(notes) on Saturday, cutting ties with one of their key offensive players over the last few seasons.

“Justin Fargas was a beloved Raider who performed at a high level throughout his seven seasons with the team and his contributions to the Silver and Black will always be remembered,” the team said in a statement announcing the move. “We wish Justin all the best.”

The team said Fargas failed a physical. Fargas was owed a $1.7 million bonus if he was still on the roster on Monday and the Raiders were looking to give more of the running load to Darren McFadden(notes) and Michael Bush(notes).

Fargas was a favorite of coach Tom Cable, who often praised Fargas’ strong work ethic and team-first attitude. Fargas never shied away from contact and often bounced up after big hits. He joined the team in 2003 and has been part of the worst run in franchise history as Oakland has lost at least 11 games in all seven of his seasons.

The decision to cut ties with Fargas clears the way for McFadden and Bush to get more consistent playing time next season. The Raiders shared the carries with three backs the past two seasons, making it difficult for any one running back to find a rhythm.

McFadden has failed to develop into the game-breaking star the Raiders expected when they drafted him fourth overall in 2008. McFadden has been slowed by injuries to his toes, knee and shoulder in his first two years, running for only 856 yards and five touchdowns.

Bush led the team in rushing last season with 589 yards and three touchdowns.

Fargas was second on the team in rushing with 491 yards and three touchdowns, averaging only 3.8 yards per carry. He had led the team in rushing the previous three seasons, with his best year coming in 2007 when he gained 1,009 yards on the ground and scored four touchdowns.

Fargas has run for 3,369 yards in seven seasons. He has averaged 4.1 yards per carry and scored 10 touchdowns.

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This is a guy we should bring in immediately. He has been nothing but productive for the Raiders while the rest of the Raiders RBs have been medicore at best.

The son of Huggy Bear from Starsky and Hutch would be perfect here to platoon with Harrison

The failing of a physical is what would concern me.

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The son of Huggy Bear from Starsky and Hutch would be perfect here to platoon with Harrison

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he could run the "Fly" Pattern cause he's so cool.....

What about James Davis? I dont want another veteran over the hill cast away running back. I want to see what Harrison and Davis can do.

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What about James Davis? I dont want another veteran over the hill cast away running back. I want to see what Harrison and Davis can do.

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I guess you didn't catch the humor.. right over you head...

he is Antoinio Fargas son.. fargas played Huggy Bear on the original Starsky and Hutch TV show.. Huggy was a really "FLY" guy,,

so his son could run the Fly pattern for us..

Get it?

PS: I don't want him either.. 8 years in the league and didn't pass his physical.. we'd be nuts to even think about it.

I agree. If you're going to be crappy, might as well let some younger guys get some experience while you're crappy.

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On Saturday, the Atlanta Falcons signed veteran cornerback Dunta Robinson to a free-agent deal. With Robinson under contract, they no longer need cornerback Chris Houston.

And so, per ESPN's Adam Schefter, they're trading Houston. To the Lions. For a sixth-round draft pick and a flip-flop of fifth-rounders.

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Looks like Pennington is staying with the Phins

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/chad-pennington-miami-dolphins-030610

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Steelers | W. Allen to sign three-year deal
Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:48:32 -0800

Updating a previous item, Adam Schefter, of ESPN, reports via Twitter that free-agent SS Will Allen (Buccaneers) will sign a three-year contract Monday, March 8, with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Did the Eagles make a mistake not taking the pick?


Speaking with Garry Cobb on 610WIP last night, Leonard Weaver revealed that the Cleveland Browns had offered him more money than the Eagles for his services. He didn't say how much, but the way he said it made it sound like it could have been substantially more.

If the Browns contacted Weaver and made him an offer, it would mean that they were willing to part ways with their second-round pick, which is the tender level Weaver was on for about 14 hours.

Weaver is a great weapon and a fan-favorite already in Philly, but would the Birds have been wise to let him walk for a second-round pick from Cleveland? The 39th overall pick is incredibly high for a fullback, and it's certainly something the Birds had to have at least considered.

Now I'm by no means an expert on the workings of restricted free agency. It's a new animal for most and learning the rules of it is going to be a process, so I'm not sure if Weaver has the right to reject an offer sheet and stay in Philly, or if he doesn't have a say in the matter.

If he has a say, he probably would have rejected the offer in the hopes of earning a contract from Philly next offseason -- but there's no way to be sure. If he doesn't have a say, a second-round pick for a fullback would be incredibly difficult to turn down -- even for a fullback of Weaver's caliber.

Don't take this the wrong way; I would not want to see Weaver leave, and would in fact love to see him retire as an Eagle, but if a team is willing to give up that much for him I'm just saying it would have been tough for me to turn down in the same position.

I had the pleasure of meeting Weaver last night when I joined Cobb on WIP and he's a very personable and just all-around good guy. He stood and talked to me and someone else for a good 10 minutes or so when he could have simply blown us off and rushed out the door.

He's exactly the guy this city needs and loves to have around, but business is business and a second-round pick is a tough business deal to turn down.

Not sure I understand that move considering we have Vickers already.

The 39th pick for a fullback? Are you kidding me? The only way I can fathom giving the 39th pick for a fullback is if we intended for him to become our #1 RB.

Wierd,, like Ammo said, why go after him when we have vickers.. it appears that the only source for this story is the player.. not that that's a bad thing.. but it could be him just trying to show Philly Fan that he wanted to stay...

A little image building maybe.

Yeah, I would not be happy with this considering hwo well Vickers was playing at the end of the season.

expect a lot of stories like this from a lot of teams this FA period.

there's a ton of variables at play here. for instance, we could have contacted his agent and told him that if the Eagles would be willing to give him up for a 4th round pick, then we'd be willing to go over what Philly offered his client.

add in a million more possible scenarios to that one and the 'source' just gives the top-level view that the Browns were interested.

I think we would have heard more about this if it was true.