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Also, other than the people saying that they should not have competed ( that is B.S and Racism)
It sounds like you are in agreement with most people here ... I'm not sure why you are so defensive about it.
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I don't particularly care either way, but I think the issue was more with the article. In particular one line of the article: Quote:
whether a white group should have been allowed to compete to whether judges wowed by the unlikely competitors inflated their scores to let them win. "Good Job but let the Black folks have their own thing for once!!!"
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Read the first 10 comments to this board.. then get back to me!!
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First - those girls did not learn how to step on their own, they were taught! And they were taught by some of the same ppl this board thinks is racist!
Everyone is taught anything they know. Other than breathing.
No one is calling the competitors racist. At least I'm not. (all the competitors - they did their thing. The judges decided who won)
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Second - there was no discrepency, who ever was judged the winner won!
Correct. But that didn't happen, did it? After the judges ruled - along comes sprite and says "wait - there was a discrepancy - and now we have 2 winners"........that's what people are discussing here. No one has called any of the competitors racist.
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Now my thing is that we never saw the other routines. As I told Excel, I thought they did a good job but I have seen alot of step shows before. 1/2 of their routine was basic but executed pretty good. If there was another team with harder steps, I would have picked them. BUT I was not a judge so Oh Well, get judges who know something about stepping!
As you stated - you haven't seen the other teams.........but trust me, that doesn't mean the judges didn't see the other teams. You see, the judges DID see the other teams. (also, you can view some of the other teams if you go to youtube.com)
But regardless - it is not up to you or me to judge the teams - they had judges sitting there watching them. Judges - watching them - for the purpose of naming a winner. Respectfully - your nor my opinion on who won matters - it's the judges opinion that matters. And the judges gave their opinion. Sprite decided to change it. That's where the racism allegation comes in.
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Third - pointing out racism ( by some) because I swore I heard people cheering for them is not bad. But please tell me where ppl on this board post ANYTHING about white racism?? Please, most ppl here search the internet for others being racist to justify their sick views!!
I don't care if people were cheering for them or not. I don't care if people were booing them. I would have to say the judges sat and watched the whole thing - and they selected a winner........which was then overturned by sprite/coca cola.
As for your other comment - about "no white people on this board posting anything about white racism" - I challenge you to show me where white racism has been stated. Now, here's the kicker, okay? Just because someone makes a true statement about someone else - that does not make it racist. What a black says about a white, what a white says about an asian, what a white says about a black, etc etc etc.......IF it is true - that is not racist. Would you agree?
What we have here is, the judges, whom you've defended for making the call they felt was right - getting overturned by coca cola - by saying there was a "discrepancy" in the scoring - yet never saying what the discrepancy was.
And we also have coca cola/sprite saying "we now have 2 winners".......when, if there were actually a disputable discrepancy - they would've said "the judges were wrong because of x,y and z..........but no - they decide to say there were 2 winners.
Again, who cares who taught who how to step? That's irrelevant. You are clouding the issue.
The issue is, one team won, and the sponsor of the event came back and said no, 2 teams won.
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A person who would say that, is being racist. But to put it in perspective, let me go to Talladega and win a Nascar race. You will have some who would be supportive and the other comments you know what would be said!!!
(* and that is not to lay that on Southerners!*)
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Read the first 10 comments to this board.. then get back to me!!
Yeah? Most of those comments (it would seem), were a response (or a tounge in cheek statement) to the people who were saying that "white people should stay out of this competition" ... which you yourself agree is racism.
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A person who would say that, is being racist. But to put it in perspective, let me go to Talladega and win a Nascar race. You will have some who would be supportive and the other comments you know what would be said!!!
(* and that is not to lay that on Southerners!*)
Just because one group does it, does it mean the other group should? Does that provide an excuse?
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What we have here is, the judges, whom you've defended for making the call they felt was right - getting overturned by coca cola - by saying there was a "discrepancy" in the scoring - yet never saying what the discrepancy was.
And we also have coca cola/sprite saying "we now have 2 winners".......when, if there were actually a disputable discrepancy - they would've said "the judges were wrong because of x,y and z..........but no - they decide to say there were 2 winners.
See i agree with you and you are correct If they won the competition cool, congrats they worked hard they deserve it.. However there was "discrepancy" in the scoring which people can ASSume that it means that the scoring was not fair in some degree and Coke had to "fix it".
My problem is when read the comments and people resound as Michelle did..
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This is the thing that bothers me the most about these types of "issues". People claim they want equality but when it comes down to it, they really don't.
Please tell me why I don't want equality lol.
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nope, that is not an excuse for 1 group or person to do anything like that. But it also does not give you an excuse not to call it on both sides!
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Arch, its kinda hard to blanket a group of ppl for being racist when that same group of people taught that white team to step!! So it does matter!! Second - You are right about the judges seeing everyone who competed. BUT the crowd also saw who competed, not you or me. So maybe they were reacting to the judges crowning the WRONG TEAM. Now as far as Sprite/Coke changing the outcome later. I do not agree with that and it was wrong!! Quote:
As for your other comment - about "no white people on this board posting anything about white racism" - I challenge you to show me where white racism has been stated. Now, here's the kicker, okay?
Now do you really want me to do that?? I could just point you to the first 10 comments on this board or just do a 30 day search, hell a 10 day search will do it!!.. And as far as the truth, who'se version of the truth, yours??? Please! I guess its the same truth as those kids at UC San Diego school?? hummm..
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My problem is when read the comments and people resound as Michelle did..
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This is the thing that bothers me the most about these types of "issues". People claim they want equality but when it comes down to it, they really don't.
Please tell me why I don't want equality lol.
Just so we're clear - I did NOT say that. Putting someone elses quote in when replying to another person can be a bad thing.
BUT - coca cola/sprite apparently hired the judges, correct?
For coca cola/sprite to come in, after the judges had named a winner - and say "their was a scoring discrepancy, but we can't and won't say what the discrepancy was, but we now have 2 winners" - sorry - that's not right.
If there was a discrepancy, say what it was - and declare the new winner - don't say "there are 2 winners".
No one has a problem with the competitors, nor with the competition, nor with the judges.
The problem comes from coca cola/sprite changing the results based on a "discrepancy" they won't identify.
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Same group of people??? Last I knew......no one was claiming the AKA's at the University of Arkansas were being racists...So where are you getting this "same people" crap????
I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken...
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My problem is when read the comments and people resound as Michelle did..
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This is the thing that bothers me the most about these types of "issues". People claim they want equality but when it comes down to it, they really don't.
Please tell me why I don't want equality lol.
Just so we're clear - I did NOT say that. Putting someone elses quote in when replying to another person can be a bad thing.
BUT - coca cola/sprite apparently hired the judges, correct?
For coca cola/sprite to come in, after the judges had named a winner - and say "their was a scoring discrepancy, but we can't and won't say what the discrepancy was, but we now have 2 winners" - sorry - that's not right.
If there was a discrepancy, say what it was - and declare the new winner - don't say "there are 2 winners".
No one has a problem with the competitors, nor with the competition, nor with the judges.
The problem comes from coca cola/sprite changing the results based on a "discrepancy" they won't identify.
my bad i know you didn't do it i just wanted to show how people respond....
yes its coke's fault + peoples views + media = crap storm
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its kinda hard to blanket a group of ppl for being racist when that same group of people taught that white team to step!! So it does matter!!
Dude - can you not grasp that no one is calling the competitors racist??????????? Please - for the love of God, can you understand that???????
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Second - You are right about the judges seeing everyone who competed. BUT the crowd also saw who competed, not you or me. So maybe they were reacting to the judges crowning the WRONG TEAM. Now as far as Sprite/Coke changing the outcome later. I do not agree with that and it was wrong!!
I guess I don't understand - first of all, who cares who the crowd liked? Honestly, who cares? The crowd didn't designate the winner - the judges did. So forget about the crowd - I don't care if they booed, cheered.......it doesn't matter.
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As for your other comment - about "no white people on this board posting anything about white racism" - I challenge you to show me where white racism has been stated. Now, here's the kicker, okay?
Now do you really want me to do that?? I could just point you to the first 10 comments on this board or just do a 30 day search, hell a 10 day search will do it!!.. And as far as the truth, who'se version of the truth, yours??? Please! I guess its the same truth as those kids at UC San Diego school?? hummm..
What the hell does this mean?
Dude, you have a chip on your shoulder. You are defending a racist action by coca cola/sprite by saying "yeah but others do it".
Don't know your age, don't care to. But you need to grow up. Look at the issue being discussed - don't bring your baggage with you.
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a racist action by coca cola/sprite
IMO it wasn't a racist action more like damage control .
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Arch, If you have trouble with comprehension, just admit it, there are reading programs all over the country that can help. First - IT is evident that the competitors and the PPL who taught that team to step were not racist, then why a post like "Racism at its finest"?? And yes it DOES matter who did or did not boo and for what reason because it shows that there were a majority of kids/people who thought they should have won, just like we are saying and just like the judges felt. Now why Coke/Sprite changed their minds, they were wrong! Second - I know your comprehension skills are lacking so I will make it basic for you, I stated that to YOUR challenge that I could go back either 30 or 60 days and find white racist statements. Or even could start at the top of this board, no problem. And BTW - if you notice, there are a certain group of posters that LOVE posting about racism and how it effects whites( some legit, most not) and another group of posters that LOVE then making blanket statements about those posts. Now I know you have never read any of them, so like I said, I can go in the archives 30 or 60 days or just start here! And what chip on my shoulder.. .I have comprehensive skills!! 
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Ah, so even though you and I agree on the issue at hand, I have reading comprehension problems. Got it.
Take up your case with someone else. YOUR comprehension is clouded by your failure to understand and your pre judging everyone.
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You can't win this argument on this board, I've tried it. Racism is an ugly word and as soon as you start using it logic and reason go out the window here.
Everyone is at least a little bit racist, whites, blacks, latinos, asians, it doesn't matter. We all prefer our own culture/beliefs to someone elses and we all prefer to be around people more like ourselves than not. People here will agree with that as long as you don't come out and say what it actually is using the R word.
There are many different degrees of racism ranging from being a black man and walking into an asian owned corner store and getting watched like a hawk while other shoppers are ignored to throwing bricks through someone's window for having a different skin color than you.
Posters here are so defensive that they just treat every thing that you point out like you accused them of throwing the bricks and any conversation you try to have about it will go nowhere but where this thread has gone. Take it from someone who has tried recently and just drop it and move on to different topics. Your dawgtalkers experience will improve dramatically if you do.
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First - IT is evident that the competitors and the PPL who taught that team to step were not racist, then why a post like "Racism at its finest"??
You want to call out others for "reading comprehension" ... but they you say this? Look, point to ONE post where somebody specifically called out ANY of the competitors as being racist? Nobody did that. Could it be that the general comment "racism at it's finest" is directed to those who set off a controversy and said things like, "Posters questioned everything from whether a white group should have been allowed to compete" ... which even you yourself said was racist.
You are getting all riled up and throwing out the "racism card" on everyone, when it appears you are in complete agreement with everyone else.
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And yes it DOES matter who did or did not boo and for what reason because it shows that there were a majority of kids/people who thought they should have won, just like we are saying and just like the judges felt. Now why Coke/Sprite changed their minds, they were wrong!
As far as Coke goes, as someone else mentioned this is more of a cheap buyout to try and save face. I'm not sure I'd call their actions racist. People complained about the results ... some complaints may of been racially based, others may not of. But Coke decided to spinelessly over-throw the judges results based on the complaits and crown two winners without any explaination as to why to original results were wrong.
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Please, most ppl here search the internet for others being racist to justify their sick views!!
BS....BS....TOTAL BS! Most people here have to justify their sick views regarding racism? You are either trying to incite something or you really have no clue.
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BY KATE BRUMBACK AND DIONNE WALKER - The Associated Press
ATLANTA -- Visit any of the nation's more than 100 historically black colleges or universities and you'll see clusters of men and women engaged in the rhythmic clapping and foot-stomping routines known in black Greek circles as "stepping."
Now a white Arkansas team's win in an Atlanta step competition has started a fiery debate over the African-inspired tradition and whether the integration of a once ethnically exclusive activity constitutes a form of cultural theft.
"What has happened is black youth culture, what people would call hip-hop, sort of made black culture accessible and appealing to all kinds of people," said Walter Kimbrough, president of historically black Philander Smith College in Little Rock, Ark., and an expert on black Greek life. "It really now has become an American experience."
The uproar began when the all-white Zeta Tau Alpha team from the University of Arkansas beat out five other sorority teams to win last weekend's national final in the Sprite Step Off competition. A YouTube video of their performance, inspired by the movie "The Matrix," generated hundreds of comments.
Posters questioned everything from whether a white group should have been allowed to compete to whether judges wowed by the unlikely competitors inflated their scores to let them win. "Good Job but let the Black folks have their own thing for once!!!" wrote one commenter, who said the Zeta Tau Alpha team did well but should not have won.
On Thursday, sponsor Coca-Cola announced "scoring discrepancies" and said the runner-up - the Alpha Kappa Alpha team from Indiana University, whose members are black - would share first place and receive the same $100,000 in scholarship money that the Zeta Tau Alphas won.
It was unclear what the discrepancies were, and Coca-Cola would not elaborate. The tournament began in September with regional qualifying rounds across the country.
Pulling from things like military cadences and dance routines, stepping usually involves stomping out rhythms in heavy boots or loud shoes, with emphasis on precision and flair. Step crews often travel from coast to coast to earn cash, trophies and bragging rights for the most precise or clever routine.
In the early 1990s the fierce competition began to gain attention off historically black campuses, with large sponsors hosting events, Kimbrough said. Before then, competitions were mostly organized by fraternity and sorority chapters.
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I don't know why, but part of the AP story was left out of the very first post of this thread, started by King...
Here is the rest of the AP story,
Online debate rages over white group's step win
by Writers Kate Brumback And Dionne Walker, Feb 26, 2010
Under the paragraph in Kings post that reads..."It was unclear what the discrepancies were and Coca-Cola would not elaborate. The tournament began in September with a series of regional qualifying rounds around the country."....
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While scholars have debated the origin of stepping, the phenomenon is generally believed to have originated with black Greeks around 1969. Some link it to a form of African "gumboot" dancing, which involves performers rhythmically slapping and stamping their feet. It's a form of dance made popular by workers in South African mines.
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Also, after the last paragraph in King's post that reads..." In the early 1990s the fierce competition began to gain attention off historically black campuses, with large sponsors hosting events, Kimbrough said. Before then, competitions were mostly organized by fraternity and sorority chapters."
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As the phenomenon expanded, other Greek groups began participating. Now, it's not uncommon for white or Latino Greek groups to participate.
Lawrence Ross, author of "The Divine Nine: The History of African American Fraternities and Sororities, said the increased interest in stepping is a natural evolution, much like other urban staples such as rap music that went from an underground phenomenon to mainstream.
"Others are always going to be attracted to what you're doing and are going to want to participate," said Ross, a member of Alpha Phi Alpha, a historically black fraternity.
He said the nation is integrating more than ever and blacks who embrace President Barack Obama making inroads into previously all-white bastions can't have a double standard.
"If (black Olympian) Shani Davis was prevented from speed skating simply because traditionally, no African-Americans were in the field, we African-Americans would be up in arms," he said.
Zeta Tau Alpha national spokeswoman Christy Barber said the University of Arkansas chapter started stepping 16 years ago and participants were originally mentored by the school's Alpha Kappa Alpha chapter.
Arkansas senior Alexandra Kosmitis said she and her teammates had worked hard and were very excited when they heard they had won Saturday. They didn't feel their title was diminished when Coca-Cola told them they'd have to share it.
"We feel truly blessed to have been part of the competition and to have gotten scholarship money to further our educations," the 21-year-old Pine Bluff, Ark., native said. "The AKA chapter from Indiana University were really nice girls throughout the competition, and we're glad they are also getting scholarship money too."
Kosmitis has been on the step team since she joined the sorority and said it gives her a chance to do an activity she's come to love while bonding with her sorority sisters.
Melody McDowell, a spokeswoman for Alpha Kappa Alpha's national office, attended the competition in Atlanta and said her sorority's members were "very talented and deserved to win, so we're delighted with the outcome."
"We're happy that whatever problem occurred with the judging has been resolved," she said, adding that both teams were "very deserving winners."
McDowell and Barber declined to comment on the Internet controversy, but both said they were disappointed that talented young women who were doing what they love got swept up in an ugly online controversy.
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Lurker and I are saying close to the same thing. We didn't see the other routines.
This is part of the problem, you want to judge for yourself whether or not they deserved to win... I will just start from the premise that the judges know more about step routines than I do.. and probably than you do it... though I'm sure you know more than I do... still with me? 
So if I start with the assumption that the judges, who as you stated were black, are competent enough to pick a winner, then I will assume they picked the right winner.. Obviously the judges aren't racists and neither is the majority of the crowd or the competition...
I think those blacks who claim stepping as their own little cultural enclave should go rent "The Great Debaters"... or "Remember the Titans" or any number of other movies where blacks breaking into a predominantly white cultural thing is celebrated as a great victory for social justice... and they should, and this is JMHO, consider the fact that white people WANT to break into their cultural routines as a great indicator of the progress that we have actually made in race relations....
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Please, let me know when I called anyone that wanted to deny those girls the right to compete racist??? Now that I know you cannot answer that, and that I said your buddy Arch has comprehension problems, you tried to say that the first 10 posters were being tongue-and-cheek with their responses. I simply pointed ppl to those posts, just like Lurker did. And of course their responses are ok, so I'm calling ppl racists...LMAO!!
As far as Coke is concerned, the only reason they should have said there was a co-winner is if the second place team got jobbed by the judges! If not, then the team from Ark. wins, see everyone at next years competition. (* And since I KNOW posters here have been to step-shows before..they might have seen that done before*)
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DC, They had celebrity judges and I probably could judge better but that is not the point. The point is that if the judges said they won, then thats it. Now have I seen things get over-ridden due to the fact most people thought the second place team was so much better than them -> yes, but that is why I wanted to see the second place team. If they were not miles better than that team, Coke had no right to change the results. Quote:
I think those blacks who claim stepping as their own little cultural enclave should go rent "The Great Debaters"... or "Remember the Titans" or any number of other movies where blacks breaking into a predominantly white cultural thing is celebrated as a great victory for social justice... and they should, and this is JMHO, consider the fact that white people WANT to break into their cultural routines as a great indicator of the progress that we have actually made in race relations....
Your absolutely right, they should!! And like it said in Mac's post, there was an author who said "He said the nation is integrating more than ever and blacks who embrace President Barack Obama making inroads into previously all-white bastions can't have a double standard.".. that is right, now that alot of other groups are participating, there will be outcomes like that... So the best thing other people who had a problem with it could do is practice for next year!
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Please, let me know when I called anyone that wanted to deny those girls the right to compete racist???
Please let me know where I said anything remotely close to THAT.  
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Now that I know you cannot answer that, and that I said your buddy Arch has comprehension problems, you tried to say that the first 10 posters were being tongue-and-cheek with their responses. I simply pointed ppl to those posts, just like Lurker did. And of course their responses are ok, so I'm calling ppl racists...LMAO!!
I'm not even sure that made sense ... at any rate, the first couple posts WERE tounge-in-cheek ... they were directed exclusively at the people mentioned in the article who claimed in one way or another that this should be a "black-only" event. NOT towards you, NOT towards the competitors, NOT towards the judges, NOT towards anyone else in the thread ... STRICTLY towards the people who even you, yourself AGREE are being racist. Still with me?
From there ... you went on to say ...
Well, Well, Well, The Racism Police are at it again!! Now we got people on this board that have NO IDEA what a step competition was or is!! But then again, most ppl on this board just talk with out any knowledge of what they type about.. Just"Racism".
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But then again we know that one this board, there is only 1 type of Racism!!..LMAO...
As several of us have repeaditly explained to you ... NOBODY has a problem with the judges, the results, the winners, the other competitors or the competition ... ONLY the people making statements about how this should be a segregated event. (People that you even agree are being racist) From that, you immediately went on the defensive and threw out the "racism police" blanket on everyone on the board.
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As far as Coke is concerned, the only reason they should have said there was a co-winner is if the second place team got jobbed by the judges! If not, then the team from Ark. wins, see everyone at next years competition. (* And since I KNOW posters here have been to step-shows before..they might have seen that done before*)
I agree ... the problem was that Coke never really offered an explanation as to how the 2nd place team got jobbed ... they heard a bunch of complaints, dismissed the judges rulings and threw out a "first-place tie" to sort of quell the fuss.
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I don't like racists because they are racists, therefore I must be a racist.
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if anyone has a video for the 2nd place dance team, then I can give it to my wife and have her judge the two. she's judged dance competitions in the past and can at the very least say if they were 'close' or if it was obvious one squad was better.
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I'm not sure why people would insist that the claims of racist are directed at anyone other than the people making racist comments...it's astounding that people can blind themselves so easily in order to be offended. The crowd seemed very supportive of all the teams when the acts were going on, which is good to see. I'm not bothered with the booing when the winner was announced, although many of the comments coming out from people are telling. The balance of race seems to have shifted the other way, sad to say. Maybe some day we will all be equal. And the winner is...nobody. Quote:
This is from the judges scores, that is what we are doing here. They tallied the judges scores up, they double checked the judges scores.
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Thanks. I forwarded her the links and will post the results when I get them.
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Here we go again!!!
If these young white ladies were better than anyone else, and were awarded for that...WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?!?!?!?! They won. Move one. Nothing to see here!
If there's a problem with the final decision, take that up with Sprite/Coca-Cola. They changed the outcome. Not the judges, not the other competitors, and not the crowd. Period. End of story.
I know a lot of people on here love to cry reverse racism when it comes to black and white. I don't see how this qualifies. Were these white ladies denied access to the competition? NO! Did they have their victory stripped from them because they were white? NO! Was their a riot that ensued because they won? NO! What's racist about this again???
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You summed that up alot better than I did!!! 
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It looks like you and Dog are missing the point that people were making.
I think this is the Quote that set most people commenting about racism.
Posters questioned everything from whether a white group should have been allowed to compete to whether judges wowed by the unlikely competitors inflated their scores to let them win. "Good Job but let the Black folks have their own thing for once!!!" wrote one commenter, who said the Zeta Tau Alpha team did well but should not have won.
How would you guys feel if a white commentator on sports center said Tiger Woods is a great golfer but let the white people have their sport. While talking about Golf?
It's racist either way. Just because they were talking about a group of white girls doesn't make it less racist then if white people said the same for blacks.
I don't really see why you guys are so confused.
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Most of the white people commenting on here have already agreed with every single thing you said... every single thing.
The only people who deserve to be discussed as potential racists are the ones that are stating that the white girls shouldn't have been allowed to participate and that "stepping" is somehow a black thing, etc... and that is a small group of people in the whole discussion. If Coke/Sprite had a legit reason to think one team got hosed, then say that... if they made a business decision to cough up an extra $100K to avoid a potentially uncomfortable racial discussion then it is just that, a business decision.
From what I see in reading this entire thread, 99% of the people are agreeing about 99% of the issue yet people are still fighting because they are misinterpreting, putting words in other peoples mouths, and ASSUMING they know what another persons position is simply because of their color or some previous race discussions.
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My only other comments on the whole thing is that if Coke/Sprite would have taken away the money from the team of white girls who won and given it to the second place team of black girls to quell any racial tension then that would have been wrong. However, they gave away $100k to both teams when the competition only called for the first place team to receive that amount. Coke/Sprite got good PR out of it, and twice as many girls got money for school. Its a winning situation all around, so there really shouldn't be much to complain about.
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Thanks. I forwarded her the links and will post the results when I get them.
here's the completely official (  ) results if anyone is interested
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ok, i am going to break this into 3 categories for scoring much like they would in a cheerleading competition because this is similar. artistic, technical, and chanting.
zetaswins creative direction. using the matrix theme along with a lot of the co-ordinated moves was just very unique for a step contest. the alphas did fine and they mixed things up, but nothing nearly as different.
the alphas killed the chanting though. zetas were weak here and at times didn't really even seem as into it with theirs. no question here.
technical is the tough one. zetas stayed in sync more as the alphas got sloppy especially in the first few sets. but the alphas stuff was much more difficult to pull off. they had multiple set coordinations where the alphas tended to stay together more and the actual stunts were easier.
i tend to favor the team that tries the harder stuff even if they don't quite pull it off as well, but i could see either team winning. so, no real controversy here.
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