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I think the head to head factors in?
If we lose to Orlando next weekend, that would split the season series and it would go to a tiebreak (that we may not hold).
That might be why both are still 2 games. Not 100% sure though.
Games played adjusts that as well. We have played 75, Orlando 74.
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Ahh, yeah.. that clears it up.
So, 2 for each... we should have that soon enough.
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i think we own the tiebreaker, i believe the next possible tiebreaker is division winning % we are 12-2 and orlando is 9-6.
and speaking of orlando, i really hope the cavs approach that game as if it were an important game. they have absolutely got to learn how to play with this team without a true big like shaq because 1) we don't know how healthy or how in form shaq will be, we hope he goes right back into how it was, but you just don't know and 2) even if he does come back you have to factor in foul trouble and other things.
you have got to find a way to compete with this team when you don't have shaq punking howard. you have to find that ... in the armor.
i just wonder if running might be the way to go? if you can sucker them into playing and up and down game, and getting out of the half court you might be able to have the advantage. the cavs can run. and they can do it as well as anyone.
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heh, yeah... that's the problem with filtering words with multiple meanings.
Browns is the Browns
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Is it me or does the content editor make non-racial remarks conjure up images of racism?
so should it have been "asian in the armor?"
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fascinating 'glitch' in Hollingers playoff odds and one he will likely have to live down for awhile unless something truly unexpected happens. http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffoddsSA has a higher odds of getting to the Finals and also better odds of winning the whole enchilada than the LA Lakers despite being the #8 seed (Jazz top spot in the West which makes sense based on recent results). Team Seed Finals Odds Champ Odds LA Lakers 1 15.4 6.5 Utah 2 25.6 13.4 Dallas 3 3.2 0.8 Phoenix 4 14.6 6.9 Denver 5 10.4 4.2 Oklahoma City 6 6.6 2.4 Portland 7 8.4 3.3 San Antonio 8 15.9 7.7 Also, OKC is jinxed because they moved from Seattle. Don't believe me, then look at their first 3 numbers.
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The East follows pretty much what one would expect from a statistical model.
Cavs 40% odds of getting out of the East (23.1 Champ odds)
Magic 35% (21.5 champ)
Hawks 10% (4.5 champ)
Everyone else a small piece of the remaining 15%.
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i've always taken hollinger's stuff with a grain of salt. it's fun to look at, but some of it is quite obvious, and the other stuff makes no sense at all.
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Oi ... espn is such a joke outfit now. On their main espn website, they just rolled out "ESPN New York" today ... which is a bit of a joke, since A) They've had that website out for months already ... and B) The words "ESPN New York" is redundant anyway.  Of course it's complete with TWO stories about Lebron being a Knick next year, a couple cover photos of Lebron in a #6 Knicks jersey, and a poll asking if Lebron will be a Knick.  I used to think they would end up with guys like Amare and Joe Johnson because they would likely be the two best guys that can't get max contracts from their original teams ... now I'm starting to hope their forced to give David Lee and Tracy McGrady max deal because nobody wanted to go there.
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The East follows pretty much what one would expect from a statistical model.
Cavs 40% odds of getting out of the East (23.1 Champ odds)
Magic 35% (21.5 champ)
Hawks 10% (4.5 champ)
Everyone else a small piece of the remaining 15%.
You have Cleveland & Orlando's numbers reversed. Hollinger has Orlando as having the better chances of making the Finals and of winning it all.
Browns is the Browns
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the sad thing for them is, if they do sign 2 max guys like johnson or bosh, they cannot keep david lee, at least that is what i have read from several different outlets.
if lebron stays in cleveland, i really wanna see how all that plays out. i think he is actually the least likely guy to bolt his current team. i think wade could possibly leave miami but i still think he stays, i think bosh is the guy most would agree is probably going to leave. but i still think toronto has somewhat of a chance, just because of the money.
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The East follows pretty much what one would expect from a statistical model.
Cavs 40% odds of getting out of the East (23.1 Champ odds)
Magic 35% (21.5 champ)
Hawks 10% (4.5 champ)
Everyone else a small piece of the remaining 15%.
You have Cleveland & Orlando's numbers reversed. Hollinger has Orlando as having the better chances of making the Finals and of winning it all.
my numbers were correct as of yesterday, the numbers update automatically based on ongoing games.
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the sad thing for them is, if they do sign 2 max guys like johnson or bosh, they cannot keep david lee, at least that is what i have read from several different outlets.
New Yorkers and even some media pundants just don't GET that. In order to have the cap room to sign two free agents, they have to renounce the Bird rights to everyone that's a free agent. From that point, they can sign two free agents to max deals and then they're left with next to nothing in cap room. They can't do anything else but sign two guys to MLE and the BAE and fill out the rest with veteran minimums. That means no Lee, no Harrington.
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Agreed ... Lebron's in the best situation. Bosh and Wade may have it bad now ... but it's not exactly going to get better if they go to a gutted-out New York roster either.
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when you look at all the situations, and who has it the best, it's not even close, lebron's situation with the cavs is 5 times as good as any other top free agent...
the only blemish to the cavs is the possibility of not having a 7 footer next year... you don't know what is going to happen with shaq and you don't know what will happen with z, and with dwight howard not going anywhere, that does scare me a little bit.
other than that, you can't knock this team at all. lots of good young players.
that's why the media has backed off on it. they can't say anything. they have to sit on their hands. but if the cavs lose in the playoffs, you know they'll pile right back on. nevermind them doing that to wade when his team was a freaking lottery team or first round exit.
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The Cavaliers have a great core of players ..... a creative GM who makes things happen ..... an owner who will spend till it hurts for a championship, and as far as I know, has not turned down 1 proposed deal to make the team better based on finances ....... excellent facilities ..... Yeah .... let me go play for Larry Dolan's brother in New York instead ....... 
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the one thing i don't like that the media always seems to spin their way is the entire thought of if lebron wants to stay why doesn't he just sign right now..
it's an obvious spin. anyone who has followed this saga which has basically started since those ping pong balls fell our way, knows this.
he's trying to create a buzz. and it's working, he has several cities anticipating the chance to add that kind of a guy. people in new york think they're getting him, people in chicago think they're getting him, some folks in other big cities are thinking that...
it's great for his product, his brand. it keeps him in the spotlight.
and most of all, it is just my opinion, i have nothing to back it up in terms of actual proof, but i think lebron is doing this 1) because he wants to weigh his options, and 2) more importantly, it keeps enormous pressure on the cavs to be the best possible organization going.
ask yourself this, let's say lebron extended last summer, let's say he signed on for 3 or even 6 years, does danny ferry go out and make the move for jamison? without that added pressure of possibly losing your franchise player? it's debatable.
it keeps his options open which is a fantastic business move, it's a beautiful thing if you're him, it keeps the spotlight on you and your team, which again, is a great business move when you are trying to sell shoes, apparel and other merchandise, and most importantly it keeps pressure on your agressive owner and crafty gm to improve the team to the best of their abilities.
he rang the bell after the boston loss in 2008 and the cavs answered it about as well as they could have. since that loss and lebron calling out the team, the cavs have finished with the nba equivalent of the president's trophy in 2 consecutive years. you just simply cannot ask for more.
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In an interview on NBA TV, LeBron James indicated that he "won't stop" until he reaches his goal of winning a title in Cleveland.
"I got a goal, and it's a huge goal, and that's to bring an NBA championship here to Cleveland," James said. "And I won't stop until I get it."
Taken literally, James' statement is newsworthy because it would mean that the Cavs' superstar, who can become a free-agent this summer, would stay in Cleveland at least as long as it takes to bring the city an NBA championship.
James also spoke glowingly about the professionalism and depth of the Cavs' roster.
The Cavs have the best record in the league, five games ahead of the Lakers
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Everything that came out then is tainted? Including Rogers news?!
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When its good news for a Cleveland team...probably
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It's legit, they had a lengthy segment on PTI about it yesterday. Of course they are saying that it means "this year"..lol
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sooo, if we win it all thIs year he is leaving? 
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as i said before, i think the thought of lebron winning a title for cleveland and then "feeling like his job here is done" is pretty stupid and makes no sense.
take a look at the nba the last 25 years and tell me how many different franchises have won the championship. not many.
you just don't leave a championship caliber team. especially a team like the cavs that has a great mix of young, old, and in their prime players. you just don't.
people always try and decipher what lebron is saying to see if you can get a clue, but the bottom line is that lebron is going to weigh his options, he is not going to make a decision now, why should he? he's a smart businessman and no businessman would make that decision now.
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Kareem won Milwaukee a title and left didn't he? Damn, I can't wait for the playoffs. I can't really decide who I want the Cavs to beat more. Orlando or LA, yeah if we beat LA that means we win the title but I freakin hate Orlando. I hope Shaq beats the hell out of Dwight Howard. 
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getting spanked by an old boston team for the second time this year. This doesn't look good. Alot of the things that we've gotten by with are coming back to bite us now...poor FT shooting, poor shot selection by lebron, inability to handle above average guards, unable to defend pick and roll, poor coaching decision by brown. all on display in first half...absolutely horrible game by cavs so far. We can only hope the celtics fade the second half..
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Can soomeone please explain the rationale of mike brown at the end or the 2nd qt? Bos has the ball 4 sec difference with shot/ game clock and we foul? With no fouls to give
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there is none...this is why i hate mike brown and i think he gets too much credit. That was a dumb call...why not just defend and hope they miss, instead you give them FREE shots. then to not press with 2.5 seconds left and let the ball roll to the other 3 point line...ridiculous
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i take the hate part back..lol i do think he's grown in the role and he knows his limitations and allows his other coaches to provide input..its during the games that i get annoyed with some of his calls and rotations.. And we need a new shooting coach asap..someone to teach them how to make a FT..i mean it is sad that a team with 60 wins is dead last...I never shot less than 83 all through HS or college, yes pro's a bit different, but its still a ft...and its all mental with these guys i think, something has changed in practice to throw them off a bit...they don't have long to figure it out.
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mike brown gets too much credit? how is very little credit too much? all people do is rip that guy.
seriously, you're going to take a shot at a guy who's team is atop the league, when they are probably trying to be cautious with injuries, and down 2 in the frontcourt already?
come on.
i really find it funny that you only show up in these threads when the cavs are losing.
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Are you talking to me?
Get off of Mike Browns nuts. Mike Brown would be a great DC for a team but not a HC. The guy is a mediocre head coach at best even if we have great talent to bail him out.
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Get off of Mike Browns nuts. Mike Brown would be a great DC for a team but not a HC. The guy is a mediocre head coach at best even if we have great talent to bail him out.
1. no, i am not talking to you.
2. i'm not on mike brown's whatever. i think he's a good coach and i think it's hilarious that some cavs fans ride the guy whenever the cavs lose, which isn't very much.
i just don't understand how people can rip a guy apart when he's just clinched 60 win seasons in consecutive years. go and look up how many teams have done that over the years.
nowhere in any nba topic on here or anywhere else did i ever say mike brown was the best coach in the league, i don't see how i can be on his whatever....
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I guess we got back into the game because Mike Brown got ejected. I've questioned his offensive philosophy at times myself but it's a complete joke that he's constantly ripped on.
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I doubt it was by design but sometimes when a coach is ejected a few things can happen. A team will either be motivated and fired up by their coaches passion or they completely fall apart.
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