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DA, you received a kings ransom to play a game that you quite frankly sucked at and your response is to blame the fans for your poor performances.




Not really sure where you pulled that from.




Um, his body of work.

Gee Derek, maybe if you could hit the broad side of a barn this wouldn't be an issue. Instead you miss it by 5 yards.

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Well in a way he's absolutely right. It's beyond ignorant to boo someone when they get injured. The fans did it to Tim Couch and they did it to Anderson.

It's days like that i'm embarrassed to be a Browns fan.

And anyone who disagrees needs to put their self in his shoes.




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Daman...I will second that...

I have no idea why Browns fans cheered the injuries of the QBs who did the most on the field to get the Browns to the playoffs.

The two best seasons this franchise has had since returning...9-7 in 2002 and a wild card playoff game...and a 10-6 season in 2007...

....and Browns fans cheered when both of the starting QBs of those teams received season ending injuries.

I hope Seneca Wallace knows what he is getting himself into, playing in Cleveland...


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DA's statement solidified his lowbrow intellect. A smart man's first statement on the free agent market should not come out like that. Not very smart Anderson.

Secondly, I was watching that game he was refering to and I believe "most" fans were cheering at Quinn coming in from the sideline. He came on the field pretty fast while DA was on the ground. It seemed most fans were excited to get to see the new hometown guy play. If DA hadn't been sticking it up, the excitement wouldn't have been so high to see Quinn in the game.

99% of Browns fans didn't want to see, nor enjoy DA get injured.
99% of Browns fans did want to see what the new kid had.

I know if I was a team that was considering DA, His statement would give me pause as to what type of guy he is, and where his mental capacity is.
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NNRTAIP,...just an observation on Anderson's quote --

"I will never forget getting cheered when I was injured."

He did not say he got booed, though it appears that getting cheered has been mistranslated as such.

I think there is a difference. There were people cheering because he was out of the game -- not because he got hurt. Now, if we were cheering for him to get hurt, SO he would be out, then I agree, that's the sin of a bad brother.

Not even the opposition would cheer if Peyton went down like that,...Anderson was cheered because he was done, he was bad, and we wanted him out. I wanted him traded the day we drafted Quinn.

Now he has sour beans because he stunk ?

Good luck Derek,...you will always be one of those who falls on his sword.

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DA, you received a kings ransom to play a game that you quite frankly sucked at and your response is to blame the fans for your poor performances.




Not really sure where you pulled that from.




Um, his body of work.

Gee Derek, maybe if you could hit the broad side of a barn this wouldn't be an issue. Instead you miss it by 5 yards.




Ummm no, his blaming the fans.

I mean if you are just going to make something up make it hard to verify.

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Well in a way he's absolutely right. It's beyond ignorant to boo someone when they get injured. The fans did it to Tim Couch and they did it to Anderson.

It's days like that i'm embarrassed to be a Browns fan.

And anyone who disagrees needs to put their self in his shoes.




I couldn't have said it better myself..




Daman...I will second that...

I have no idea why Browns fans cheered the injuries of the QBs who did the most on the field to get the Browns to the playoffs.

The two best seasons this franchise has had since returning...9-7 in 2002 and a wild card playoff game...and a 10-6 season in 2007...

....and Browns fans cheered when both of the starting QBs of those teams received season ending injuries.

I hope Seneca Wallace knows what he is getting himself into, playing in Cleveland...





While I agree with the whole cheering when Couch/Anderson got hurt is completely absurd. You SHOULD NOT EVER lump those idiots with the die hard fans that cheer this team year in and year out. We may get upset or prefer a different player (I personally preferred Anderson to Quinn) but many many thousands or even hundreds of thousands NEVER cheered when Anderson got hurt. So Anderson is an IDIOT for grouping the whole fan base with the IDIOTS that cheer when a Browns player gets hurt.

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"The fans are ruthless and don't deserve a winner," Anderson said. "I will never forget getting cheered when I was injured. I know at times I wasn't great. I hope and pray I'm playing when my team comes to town and [we] roll them."




Well, I hope and pray for that, too, Derek. You'll finally be hitting the guys in orange helmets in stride.

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While I agree with the whole cheering when Couch/Anderson got hurt is completely absurd. You SHOULD NOT EVER lump those idiots with the die hard fans that cheer this team year in and year out. We may get upset or prefer a different player (I personally preferred Anderson to Quinn) but many many thousands or even hundreds of thousands NEVER cheered when Anderson got hurt. So Anderson is an IDIOT for grouping the whole fan base with the IDIOTS that cheer when a Browns player gets hurt.




I have said this more than once...Cleveland is ending up with a reputation for a place player's want to avoid. We can argue that not everybody in our fan base is that big of an idiot, but enough are that it was reported both times by major media.

A few months back Couch was interviewed on local radio as he had a new business opening. The local guy brought up the Browns fans cheering him being injured and he basically said that Browns fans are as passionate about football as UK fans are passionate about basketball. He said it didn't really bother him because the team wasn't winning and he didn't take it personal.

Problem is...he didn't know Browns fans were making it personal. If the Browns fans can do it, we say the players can't call us on it? If Browns fans don't speak out against it...it is all of us.

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There may be some idiots who do make it personal, but I don't believe it is rampant. Now, I agree, the media portrays it as rampant, but what else is new ?

They print it -- it becomes the truth. Whether or not.

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There may be some idiots who do make it personal, but I don't believe it is rampant. Now, I agree, the media portrays it as rampant, but what else is new ?

They print it -- it becomes the truth. Whether or not.




Read the thread title...damn the media!

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i'd like to applaud the maturity in this thread.....a couple other boards just melted down to the jurassic era.


this is more of a perception problem in my eyes. he made a pretty broad statement lumping everyone together...sure. with that said, this has happened twice now.

once can be attributed to chance, a fluke, whatever. but twice is nearing a trend.....at a glance, its certainly frustration. its also a bit of hubris.....we all are very passionate, and think we know better to a point that it affects many of us emotionally. though, its a double edge sword.

2 QB's in the last decade were injured to a small crowd of cheers. does anyone outside of the cleveland fanbase even want to care or understand its not everyone? really, it doesn't matter.

in my worst nightmare, this becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. we continually demand a winner to have bragging rights to the point where we actually do drive away potential players that could make a difference. mangini, holmgren and co. have already found it necessary to change the culture in cleveland to get this ship righted. perhaps we should all look in the mirror and see if/how that pertains to us, because we could very well cast a dark cloud over the organization through our actions.

or, we can sit around and bash the guy who at least made football fun to watch for a few games....lamenting the past.

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It's unfortunate that DA said these things, but I'm not too worked up about it. For some reason, Braylon's comments really fired me up, but DA's, not so much.

When DA comes to town with another team, we'll play him like every other team will play him: make him throw short. We know he's capable of near-perfect games, but we also know he's even more capable of having an absolutely terrible game.

And as for comments about the fans, I don't like that he's lumped us all in there, but Browns fans in general have gone down in my eyes for a while now. But, that's what happens when your team just plain sucks. If we can get things turned around, the fans will be a lot better. We're just so frustrated all the time that we take it out in ways that maybe we shouldn't.


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DA's statement is the same kinda thing Braylon was crying about. We, the whole fan base, are VERY hard on the players that SUCK.

Hank left with our best wishes and NO crying because he was a stand up guy and EARNED our respect. Tuck was the same.

However, DA leaves us as the whinny player that sucked most of the time he was here and HE has the nads to be disgruntled because THE FANS called him on it.

I didn't think it was possible but I have EVEN LESS respect for DA now.

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I saw on Cleveland.com the title "Anderson apologizes to fans" with subtitle
"Former Browns quarterback says he regrets comments he made out of frustration after his release."

but when you click on the link it takes you to the old article of him blasting the team LOL

That in a nutshell was Anderson's Cleveland career.

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There'll still be Browns fans throwing batteries when we start winnning. Hopefully that will still be viewed as poor judgement.

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I saw on Cleveland.com the title "Anderson apologizes to fans" with subtitle
"Former Browns quarterback says he regrets comments he made out of frustration after his release."

but when you click on the link it takes you to the old article of him blasting the team LOL

That in a nutshell was Anderson's Cleveland career.





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CLEVELAND -- Derek Anderson has apologized for saying Browns fans "are ruthless and don't deserve a winner."

After angry reaction from fans poured into The Plain Dealer, cleveland.com and other media outlets, Anderson issued the following statement early Wednesday morning through Amy Palcic, the former Browns public relations director.

Anderson's statement:

"I said some things to Jeff Schudel (of The News-Herald) earlier that I regret. Those of you who got to know me personally from covering the Browns over the past five years, know this was out of character for me. I wasn't taken out of context, but I was speaking out of my frustration after my career with the Browns came to a close.

"I had some great times playing in Cleveland, especially during the 2007 season and I met some great people and made many lifelong friends along the way. I'm looking forward to starting a new chapter in my life."

Anderson was terminated by the Browns on Tuesday. He is expected to be pursued by the Arizona Cardinals and Carolina Panthers.

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Did we expect anything less ?

Listen to Dennis Leary talk about fame on the cover of "People." You make a big mistake, go into rehab, and then get on the cover of "People" and say "I'M SORRY!"

Goodbye Derek. Already fell on your sword and ain't been gone a day,...

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I'm glad that DA apoligized to some degree, at least he realized what he said was wrong. As a poster above said, players like Hank earned our respect, I think DA thought himself better than he was. Either way, I couldnt be more elated that he is gone and off of our team. This is a guy that didnt "get it". We cheered for Quinn coming in and his PLAY getting off the field, not his injury. Also, DA has been out of Cleveland since the end of the season and has known about his release for some time now. This shouldn't have come as a shock to him, and further proves the point of his poor decision making. He has had months to think about this, and that is what he came up with. I will forever refers to him as DumbA (you get the idea) for the rest of his career when talking about him.


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I was kind of waiting for DA's follow-up. Having seen him interact with folks at training camp, this seemed REALLY out of character for him. Glad he cleared that upon further reflection on his part and I'll always wish him well going forward (except, of course, if/when he plays us ).

I wasn't there for the Couch incident, so I can't really comment on how that all unfolded. However, I was at the game when DA got hurt and I can certainly understand how he would have gotten the impression fans were cheering his injury. I distinctly remember, though, that the cheering started when BQ put his helmet on and trotted onto the field. Unfortunately, the training staff was still tending to DA on the field when that occured. Bad timing. REALLY bad timing and I'm sure that's a memory that will be difficult (if not impossible) for DA to erase. It was an unfortunate moment altogether.

Cleveland fans aren't what they once were, no doubt. However, I think 11 years of, mostly, forgettable play has really taken it's toll. The fact that fans sold that stadium out for all but last couple of seasons - despite the lousy play of the team - says all you need to know about how passionate Browns fans can be. ... and WILL be again if/when this team gets up off the mat for good. As it has been said often on this board and elsewhere: winning will change everything.


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Not sure why there is an outrage to his comments. After all many on here of attacked him pretty harshly and it had nothing to do with him sucking. Someone on here actually said they wished he would get hurt.

Maybe that comment was just made out of frustration because he did suck. The thing is it was said. People that were at the game where he got injured did say some of the people were cheering because he was hurt. How many were cheering because he got knocked out of the game? I have no idea. I do know it turned my stomach hearing the cheers. It was sickening to me to hear cheering when one of our players was hurt even if it was over excitement of someone else coming in..

In this thread before the story was posted someone made personal comments about him. As a fanbase we have way too many morons. DA isn't the only one who gets attacked personally on here. Brady Quinn gets beat up pretty good as well and it has nothing to do with his ability to play football.

Quinn started out being luckier than DA since he was loved by most since day one. I think if Quinn starts and plays like crap he will get the same kind of treatment by enough fans to where I will be embarrassed again.

What DA said wasn't smart. When he apologized he did say that he wasn't taken out of context. He said it was made out of frustration, which I believe. I also believe that he meant what he said.


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I've always like DA. I don't think it is so out of touch to say the things he said. I'd be bitter too. He gave it his all & for the most part did a good job, in '07. He's been the best QB since Kosar and all he got in return was grief. Instead of standing behind him & cheering him on, we always threw him under the bus, for Brady "freaking" Quinn no less. We fans never gave him a chance. He was far from perfect, but like I said he was the best we've had in a long time.

It's a good thing I'll always be a Browns fan first, cause the way we treated him is shameful.

Good Luck DA, hope it works out for ya.


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I saw on Cleveland.com the title "Anderson apologizes to fans" with subtitle
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but when you click on the link it takes you to the old article of him blasting the team LOL

That in a nutshell was Anderson's Cleveland career.





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CLEVELAND -- Derek Anderson has apologized for saying Browns fans "are ruthless and don't deserve a winner."

After angry reaction from fans poured into The Plain Dealer, cleveland.com and other media outlets, Anderson issued the following statement early Wednesday morning through Amy Palcic, the former Browns public relations director.

Anderson's statement:

"I said some things to Jeff Schudel (of The News-Herald) earlier that I regret. Those of you who got to know me personally from covering the Browns over the past five years, know this was out of character for me. I wasn't taken out of context, but I was speaking out of my frustration after my career with the Browns came to a close.

"I had some great times playing in Cleveland, especially during the 2007 season and I met some great people and made many lifelong friends along the way. I'm looking forward to starting a new chapter in my life."

Anderson was terminated by the Browns on Tuesday. He is expected to be pursued by the Arizona Cardinals and Carolina Panthers.




Can't have it both ways Derek.

Maybe you should have used your brain before you sent that email...unfortunately, just like your playing style, you never thought before you acted.

Whatever. If he ever comes to town as a starter, you can expect me to be looking for a ticket and to boo Anderson until I am horse. He's a loser and deserves to have no more success in the NFL.


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1) Say nothing; or
2) Just say "Thanks Cleveland."

And leave it at that. People would have made fun of him for a little while, but we would have generally forgotten about him or he would have been a minor point.

Instead, he's now got people who will be actively rooting against him.

Gotta think before you act...


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Well for me...this is just further proof that Anderson isn't the QB we need. And let me start by saying. I think he has a point and a case. It was very classless of fans to cheer when he got injured. Sure you can sugar coat it and say the were cheering Quinn coming in...and some may be...but the thing is that There were a bunch of frustrated, drunken, idiots that were cheering the fact Anderson got injured.

So with that said...2 things...
1) You can't hold an entire fan base of hundreds of thousands across the world for what a few drunken idiots did.
2)This is just another in a long line of bad decision making he has done in his career. Regardless if you are right. Regardless if you have a case. It was the wrong decision to voice that opinion in the media. There is nothing for you to gain by voicing that opinion...but everything to lose.

Although there is NO EXCUSE for the actions of those drunken idiots...you do have to look at the body of work leading up to that incident. And frankly the performance was not just "not great" as he specified in his comments.....it was downright embarassing.

Good luck to you Derek Anderson...I know you had good friends in the lockeroom and that you had no intentions of this outcome....It is what it is...and forgive me but we are better for it.


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Not sure why there is an outrage to his comments. After all many on here of attacked him pretty harshly and it had nothing to do with him sucking. Someone on here actually said they wished he would get hurt.

Maybe that comment was just made out of frustration because he did suck. The thing is it was said. People that were at the game where he got injured did say some of the people were cheering because he was hurt. How many were cheering because he got knocked out of the game? I have no idea. I do know it turned my stomach hearing the cheers. It was sickening to me to hear cheering when one of our players was hurt even if it was over excitement of someone else coming in..

In this thread before the story was posted someone made personal comments about him. As a fanbase we have way too many morons. DA isn't the only one who gets attacked personally on here. Brady Quinn gets beat up pretty good as well and it has nothing to do with his ability to play football.

Quinn started out being luckier than DA since he was loved by most since day one. I think if Quinn starts and plays like crap he will get the same kind of treatment by enough fans to where I will be embarrassed again.

What DA said wasn't smart. When he apologized he did say that he wasn't taken out of context. He said it was made out of frustration, which I believe. I also believe that he meant what he said.




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yes i wish da would not of said that, but can you blame him? we (real fans, dumb and reasonable included) cheered when couch was down and we did the same when da was down. anyone can sugarcoat it all they want. da was down in PAIN with a messed up knee, and a different qb was coming in, and they cheered!! "they cheered because brady was coming in not that da was hurt." whatever

he always had the hometown golden boy qb over his shoulder. thats a lot of pressure, even more when ya hear brady chants all the time.

dont get me wrong, his numbers were great that year but i still thinks he sucks, but i think brady does too. i wanted him benched also, but i dont boo, thats just me.

so i dont blame him for his comments, even more that he didnt backtrack so much by sayin not out of context etc.

i give him a LITTLE slack, he gave us the best year from a Browns qb in a long time and he didnt cry like couch did when we treated him like that.

wallace better have thick skin lol

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Like I said, I like DA. I've also said I did not care for him as our QB.

However, that does not justify the treatment that we fans have given him since he's been here.

Your comments seem to prove the point.

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"The fans are ruthless and don't deserve a winner," Anderson said. "I will never forget getting cheered when I was injured. I know at times I wasn't great. I hope and pray I'm playing when my team comes to town and [we] roll them."




Well, I hope and pray for that, too, Derek. You'll finally be hitting the guys in orange helmets in stride.




How GREAT would it be to play against DA every week of the season?? I'd love to see him in the division so we could play him at least twice a year, but that isn't going to happen. Too bad...

I also have to wonder about the "cheering when I got hurt" gripes that I keep hearing. I've been to just about every home game since the return and I can't remember any significant cheering when ANYONE (Brown or visitor) got hurt.

It customary to cheer when a hurt player gets up..... I wonder if their egos are so fragile that they can't tell the difference.

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While I agree with the whole cheering when Couch/Anderson got hurt is completely absurd.




You guys will probably never figure this one out. It's the same thing as cheering (or as DA calls it, booing) when he went down. People were cheering because the other guy was coming IN not because someone was hurt.

Duh.


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Not sure why there is an outrage to his comments. After all many on here of attacked him pretty harshly and it had nothing to do with him sucking. Someone on here actually said they wished he would get hurt.

Maybe that comment was just made out of frustration because he did suck. The thing is it was said. People that were at the game where he got injured did say some of the people were cheering because he was hurt. How many were cheering because he got knocked out of the game? I have no idea. I do know it turned my stomach hearing the cheers. It was sickening to me to hear cheering when one of our players was hurt even if it was over excitement of someone else coming in..

In this thread before the story was posted someone made personal comments about him. As a fanbase we have way too many morons. DA isn't the only one who gets attacked personally on here. Brady Quinn gets beat up pretty good as well and it has nothing to do with his ability to play football.

Quinn started out being luckier than DA since he was loved by most since day one. I think if Quinn starts and plays like crap he will get the same kind of treatment by enough fans to where I will be embarrassed again.

What DA said wasn't smart. When he apologized he did say that he wasn't taken out of context. He said it was made out of frustration, which I believe. I also believe that he meant what he said.




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yes i wish da would not of said that, but can you blame him? we (real fans, dumb and reasonable included) cheered when couch was down and we did the same when da was down. anyone can sugarcoat it all they want. da was down in PAIN with a messed up knee, and a different qb was coming in, and they cheered!! "they cheered because brady was coming in not that da was hurt." whatever

he always had the hometown golden boy qb over his shoulder. thats a lot of pressure, even more when ya hear brady chants all the time.

dont get me wrong, his numbers were great that year but i still thinks he sucks, but i think brady does too. i wanted him benched also, but i dont boo, thats just me.

so i dont blame him for his comments, even more that he didnt backtrack so much by sayin not out of context etc.

i give him a LITTLE slack, he gave us the best year from a Browns qb in a long time and he didnt cry like couch did when we treated him like that.

wallace better have thick skin lol




I never cheered when either Couch or Anderson went down and I"m not sure why a real fan would have.

The rest is garbage. You're telling me that if you put Anderson in front of a NY or Philly or Dallas or, heck, even a Carolina or Jacksonville crowd and have him throw a 10.2 QB average out there that they wouldn't do the same thing? It doesn't make it right, but to single out Browns fans for that singular action is pretty damn low.

Derek overreacted and should have just kept his mouth shut or given some typical cookie cutter response. He's an idiot for making the comments and I'm sure the only reason he is even apologizing is because his agent told him to do so.


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Like I said, I like DA. I've also said I did not care for him as our QB.

However, that does not justify the treatment that we fans have given him since he's been here.

Your comments seem to prove the point.




Yeah, whatever.

If he is the starter somewhere else, he'll receive the same treatment. Get thicker skin.


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Let's see if I get this straight.

Anderson puts up good numbers for a year. The next year, he's so bad that people are clamoring for him to be replaced. He gets hurt, and the guy everyone was waiting for though weeks of bad football comes on the field. Anderson gets a wild hair by thinking the fans are cheering his injury and never considers the fans are cheering the hopeful golden boy. He then continues to stink up the field whenever he's on it. Once he's released for his poor performance and ridiculous salary, he blasts the fans.

The moron has braylon edward's displacement syndrome. I'm actually surprised he didn't say that the fans hate him because he's not from Ohio.


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Really,, I think he can. I've had a frustrating thing or two happen to me over the years....and I've more than once said something that, upon further review, I've regretting saying.

I'm human,, so is DA!


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I'm glad that DA apoligized to some degree, at least he realized what he said was wrong.




Yeah fair enough. Lets not waste any more time on him then. Derek I wish you luck. Really.

He both helped and hurt us but at least he was not boring, lol.


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On the radio they did a DA interception montage. It was pretty funny, "Drops back...throws.....PICKED OFF BY ED REED! Reed down the sideline.....TOUCHDOWN Ravens!"


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You guys will probably never figure this one out. It's the same thing as cheering (or as DA calls it, booing) when he went down. People were cheering because the other guy was coming IN not because someone was hurt.

Duh.




I believe this controversey was during the Colts game? This was one of the most frustrating games I went to in my life. I believe the score was 10-3 or 6-3 or something.

Our offense was pathetic, and the Colts weren't scoring.

This was the end of a crappy season, and plenty of people were drunk at the game. Everyone wants to see a new QB, we actually had a chance to beat the Colts but our offense looked like its usual enimic self..........

So when DA goes down, and you have a bunch of wasted fans delighted for a new QB, this is going to happen.

Finishing that season was brutual and this game was toward the end of the season. I got my ticket way ahead of time. It was supposed to be revenge for not playing the Titans (and us not making the 2007 playoffs). So yeah, I guess when DA went down on a really bad play, I wasn't quiet. Kind of feels bad, but I think I was yelling "That's what you get!" (Sounds bad but I was drunk and very frustrated with DA and the team at this time)

I think if people knew the extent of the injury and more people were sober at the game (How else do you watch the browns lose to the colts by single digits without putting up like more than 150 yards offense) DA would have gotten less boo's or chears.


So DA I apologize for my actions at the game (i really can't apologize for everyone else). Unfortunately the way that this team was functioning, it sets things like that up to happen. Had DA performed 2008 after 2007 on a team like the Jets (probably the drunkest most unruly crowd in the NFL), he would have gotten the same treatment. I do believe that any town that was stuck in the gutter like us, with those events happening, would have acted the same way toward DA...........


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Well, I came to this thread to wish DA well, but after reading his comments I think I'll hold off on that.

Bring in SW, dump DA, we just got better. Good job Mike!!

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Oh, THAT'S funny...


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