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Seems rediculous to me, but Leaf seemed fine in interviews to me. Ryan Leaf was rediculously immature without a work ethic and he was kind of nuts, I don't think Clausen will be like that. If anything, he'll be more like Philip Rivers. Rivers has done rediculous things also, but he keeps his composure and is a winner. I think competitiveness is something that has to do with it, and Clausen is competitive.
Just a quick comment ... I've had second-hand experience with both Leaf and Rivers, as I went to college right next to where Leaf went to school (WSU), and I've lived in San Diego where both of them have played. Rivers actually went to my church for a few years.
Leaf was a complete jerk off-the field. One of the local shopping malls in Pullman, WA actually banned Leaf from going there because he was such a d-bag whenever he went. He was cocky on the field, but it carried over off the field as well. He acted a lot like Big Ben does in that aspect.
Philip Rivers is exactly the opposite of what most people think off the field. He's been married since college with four kids and is devoutly religious. Very involved in the community and has great character. What you see on the field though is his high-competetive nature. He's not afraid to yell at teammates not doing their job or tell an opposing fan to sit down and shut-up ... (he'll actually refuse to use profanity when doing it). However, sports journalists see him yelling at fans, don't do their homework and speculate that he's a complete jerk, off the field as well.
Rivers gets the job done though because he still puts in that hard work and keeps himself out of trouble off the field. Has Clausen had any off-field issues? I personally don't know. If he's more like Rivers than Leaf, then I wouldn't mind having him.
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I remember the Leaf days. D-bag is one of the kinder ways to describe him.
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Clausen was cited for transporting alcohol as a 19 year old. No big deal to me. As someone previously mentioned almost everyone drinks alcohol in college while underage. He also got punched in the face by a fan in a South Bend restaurant. Here are two links ( Link #1, Link #2). One says a fan was yelling at him then sucker punched him as he was leaving the restaurant. The other says that Clausen was defending his lady friend, shoved a guy who had shoved his girlfriend. Either way it doesn't sound like it was his fault.
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The point is, Daman is correct, Holmgren has not been one to spend high draft picks on QBs.
BS...U guys need to lose that tude...
It's MUCH more like...Holmgren's NEVER HAD TO...
Farve and Hasselbeck...How many years of Holmgren in GB and Seattle???...
I don't give Holmgren anywhere near as much credit as many do for being some QB Guru...Not even close...
His ¤hole damn time in GB he didn't even NEED to sniff a 1st round QB...Then again in Seattle...
He's FAR from a QB Guru...And he's got no magic power to groom mid-late round QB's...That's laughable...
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He's FAR from a QB Guru...And he's got no magic power to groom mid-late round QB's...That's laughable...
Mark Brunell. 5th Round Pick by the Green Bay Packers in 1993. Traded to Jacksonville in 1995. Made 3 Pro Bowls, led the Jaguars to 2 AFC Conference Championships.
Matt Hasselbeck. 6th round Pick by the Green Bay Packers in 1998. Traded to Seattle in 2001. 3 time Pro Bowler, 5 playoff appearances, 1 Super Bowl trip.
Aaron Brooks. 4th Round Pick by the Green Bay Packers in 1999. Wasn't a Pro Bowler but started 90 games in the NFL and had four pretty good seasons with the Saints from 2001-04.
Also, if you want to go way back. Steve Young was a mess in his first season with the Buccaneers. He got traded to the 49ers and sat behind Montana for four years (with Holmgren as his QB coach and OC).
So yeah. You're right. Holmgren didn't need to draft a 1st round QB. But he drafted some pretty good backups who became pretty good NFL starters.
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Clausen has been the face of the Notre Dame program for the past three years and has shown improvement in virtually every aspect of his game each year. He lacks a cannon for an arm but he does have a live arm and a quick delivery that allows him to get the ball out quickly. He has close to a ¾-arm delivery which coupled with his lack of top height can cause some of his passes to get knocked down or tipped by pass rushers. He has been well coached and understands a pro style offense, so he is apt to come to camp better prepared than most. He is recovering from toe surgery and will not participate in combine drills.
Strengths
Clausen’s a highly-competitive signal-caller who was has been very productive in a pro-style system during his career. Possesses a live arm and flashes the ability to make all the NFL throws. Displays impressive accuracy in the short passing game. Is athletic and mobile for the position and can avoid the rush and make plays outside the pocket. Has a very quick delivery.
Weaknesses
Clausen has a somewhat low release point. Release point combined with less-than-ideal height leaves Clausen susceptible to having passes batted down at the line. Has a strong arm but lacks premier arm strength and may struggle at times fitting the ball into windows deep down the field. He will be unable to participate in combine drills due to toe surgery.
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Good height and bulk --- Arm strength is more than adequate and can make all of the necessary throws --- Great throwing mechanics with a quick delivery --- Super accurate passer with terrific touch, timing and anticipation --- Very smart with an excellent football IQ --- Knows how to operate under center, recognize blitzes, read coverages and go through progressions --- Takes care of the ball --- Able to buy time in the pocket with his feet --- Can throw on the run --- Tough and will play through pain and injuries --- Is confident with a fiery field presence and ice water in his veins --- Hard worker --- Media savvy and has proven that he can handle the spotlight --- Experienced --- Superb bloodlines.
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Borderline cocky and entitled with a personality that rubs some people the wrong way --- Not a great athlete --- Can be overly cautious and too quick to check down, throw the ball away or take a sack --- Has to windup to really zip the ball --- Floats the deep ball at times --- Might not have a ton of upside --- Is still maturing --- Durability is a concern.
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Was a three-year starter for the Fighting Irish --- Brothers Casey and Rick both played quarterback at Tennessee --- Started getting national media attention in middle school and was labeled the "LeBron James of College Football" --- Was a celebrated recruit who won just about every prep award and honor imaginable --- Began working with highly-regarded quarterback guru Steve Clarkson in the 8th grade then spent three seasons under the tutelage of offensive mastermind Charlie Weis in college --- Underwent surgery to repair a minor injury to the elbow on his throwing arm in 2007 --- Played through a painful toe injury in 2009 that eventually required surgery to repair a couple of torn ligaments following the season --- Voted a captain by his teammates in 2009 --- One of the most prolific passers in Notre Dame history despite only playing three seasons --- Made major strides in the leadership department as a junior, showing a much better on-field demeanor and taking his team on a number of impressive game-winning fourth quarter drives --- Extensive experience running a pro style system, a factor which can't be underestimated in this day and age of the spread offense --- Was essentially groomed to be an NFL quarterback from a very young age and has somehow managed to live up to sky-high expectations in the face of intense scrutiny --- The worry is that some of the Jay Cutler-esque qualities of his personality could begin to take their toll in the locker room if he lands in a bad situation or with a dysfunctional franchise --- A polished signal caller with an outstanding pedigree and all of the tools to be a top-notch starter at the next level.
The weaknesses I highlighted in red sound a lot like Brady Quinn. But this is the only site that mentions it. (Other sites mention the poor deep ball).
Also, it sounds like he has matured, so that shows some he is willing to change. And from the looks of it we finally don't have a dysfunctional franchise and Clausen would sit and watch a real pro in Delhomme for awhile, so that would seem like it would help.
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Accuracy: Very good, but not great, accuracy on short-to-intermediate throws whether over the middle or on the sidelines. Receivers usually have a chance to run after the catch, though he tends to throw high when missing because of his delivery. Fades are generally placed where only his receiver can make the catch, though not always over the correct shoulder. Needs to consistently put deep throws on the outside shoulder of his receiver.
Arm Strength: Enough arm strength to make every necessary NFL throw, but requires great effort to do so. Good zip on crossing or out patterns to either side of the field when in balance. Places in the ball in tight quarters over the middle. Tries to throw too hard at times, and needs to take a bit off short passes and rely on his arm strength to deliver passes without a wind up. His 60-yard deep ball floats, allowing safety help to arrive.
Setup/Release: Well-coached pro-style quarterback with balanced footwork and nice ball carriage. Also effective out of shotgun. Puts strong effort into each pass, sometimes overthrowing. Winds up a bit when trying to unleash a fastball, allowing defenders to react. Drops right shoulder to get better trajectory on deep passes. Needs to better sell ball fake and pump fake to draw in defenders. Able to deliver the ball from different slots when needed, but also gets happy feet if line is struggling to protect him and will throw off back foot. His average height and tendency to wind up could hinder ability to get the ball through the line.
Reading Defenses: Regularly looks off safety before going to his intermediate or deep out. Tended to bird-dog his favorite receiver in 2009, however. Takes too many chances downfield, eschewing his underneath options and trusting his receivers but not acknowledging safety help over the top. Also throws late over the middle or across his body, which he won't get away with in the pros.
On the Move: Good footwork in the pocket, able to shift in any direction to evade rushers and create space and find a passing lane in which to throw. Keeps eyes downfield when pressured out of the pocket, and throws well running to his left or right. Able to run for first downs. Adept at sliding after a run but gives good effort to gain a first down or find the end zone. Needs to secure the ball better when scrambling. A bit late feeling backside pressure, but his internal clock improved this year behind a below-average line.
Intangibles: Fiery, emotional leader is willing to demand the best from his teammates. Intelligent player able to handle any offense. Tough runner who played through broken toe on his plant (right) foot in 2009. Maturity has been a question mark in the past, and he can get salty with coaches and teammates during a game, but no major concerns have arisen.
NFL Comparison: Aaron Rodgers, Packers
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Pros: Clausen has an NFL arm and throws one of the prettiest deep balls of any quarterback in the nation. Just as impressive has been his toughness fighting through turf toe and a bruised hand, not to mention his clutch play in the fourth quarter. Many of Notre Dame’s wins have been of the come from behind variety.
Cons: He doesn’t always use the whole field and many of his numbers come courtesy of acrobatic catches made by his talented wide outs.
Skinny: Coaches will surely take note of his ability to make plays in pressure situations, as well as at less than 100 percent. Even so, the signal caller is not quite a finished product. Clausen will have to make a decision at the end of the season, he could be a top 10 overall pick should he declare.
The bottom line is this. Clausen should have the physical ability to make all the throws in the NFL. There is a question on whether he is mature or not. If he's put in the right organization it seems like that won't be a problem.
Do I like him more now than I used to? Yes. Do I want us to take him at #7? No, I would rather have a guy like Colt McCoy, Jarret Brown, or Dan LeFevour later in the draft with a guy who can make an immediate impact in the 1st round.
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http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/09/notre-dames-clausen-shows-no-sign-of-toe-injury/Quarterback Jimmy Clausen threw for 45 minutes Friday in a scripted workout in front of representatives from 16 NFL teams. While he did not run the 40-yard dash, observers said Clausen appeared able to push off of his surgically repaired toe and drive the ball well on his throws. Clausen, who left Notre Dame after his junior season and was unable to work out until now due to his toe injury, went directly from his pro day workout into a three-hour private workout for the Seattle Seahawks, who were represented Friday by offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates and quarterback coach Jedd Fisch. Clausen was scheduled to fly to Buffalo for a visit with the Bills after Friday’s workout. The St. Louis Rams, who hold the No. 1 overall pick in the April 22 draft, sent a contingent to South Bend, Ind., that included GM Billy Devaney, head coach Steve Spagnuolo and offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur. Also in attendance were the Seahawks, who hold the sixth pick, the Cleveland Browns, who pick at No. 7, and the Buffalo Bills, who pick ninth. Clausen measured in at 6-foot-3, same as at the NFL Scouting Combine, and weighed 224 pounds, up two from his combine weight. – Gil Brandt
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I would say my worst-case scenario would be:
1) Bradford
2) okung
3) McCoy
4) suh
5) berry
6) clausen
that would mean the only players left at #7 are a wideout with possible character concerns, a guy that plays a non-premium position (rt or ilb) but is still a pretty good player, or a cb that isn't even expected to compete for a starting job. Fortunately this year's worst-case scenario isn't really all that bad. I'd probably go Bryant or Trent Williams in that situation barring a trade-down partner.
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cfrs15 - nice work collating the Clausen reviews. I always find it interesting how there are always contradictions between reports. Example - one says his deep ball floats another says he throws one of the prettiest deep balls. Can't help but notice that you missed one very important person's review - mine  Let's start with what I don't know (since it will be the shortest  ). I don't know what to make of his off field/personality question marks. Yes he was voted team captain but if you are a guaranteed starter at QB you are voted captain almost by default. He seems to have good but not great arm strength - certainly adequate and certainly better than Quinn's, a good understanding of the game and a strong desire to win. I am not worried about the ND record. Yes it was poor but the losses were much more often a product of a crummy defense. I am not convinced about his accuracy. The Charlie Weis offense created a lot of wide open receivers. You don't need great accuracy to complete passes to a wide open receiver. I think his accuracy is probably a little better than Quinn's but I do not believe it will turn out to be anything more than average NFL accuracy at best. I disagree with draft countdown when they say that he has a quick release. Bradford has a quick release. Clausen's release is pedestrian in comparison. What I see is that Clausen has to cack (misspelled on purpose as the website keeps deleting the word when I use an o to spell it correctly) his arm to generate power on his throws whereas Bradford just whips it out. As far as quickness of release I see Clausen's as being closer to Tebow's than Bradford's (though Tebow's is slow because of the long windup like you see with Campbell and Leftwich).
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These workouts sound a little like taking batting practice in the 68 MPH cage but, FWIW, here's the write-up on Clausen's:
Clausen completes 57 of 59 passes on pro day
By TOM COYNE, AP Sports Writer
Apr 9, 3:55 pm EDT
SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP)—Former Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen tried to show NFL teams Friday he is worth a first-round draft pick, though he’s still not 100 percent healthy three months after surgery to repair torn tendons in his right foot.
Clausen didn’t run during the 30-minute throwing session attended by 16 of the 32 NFL teams. He completed 57 of 59 passes, overthrowing wide receiver Robby Parris on two long routes. His receivers also needed to make some nice catches on several other throws, with former Notre Dame running back James Aldridge twisting back to catch a short pass on his shoulder and former Irish receiver David Grimes speeding up to make a fingertip grab on a 50-yard pass.
Clausen said he wanted to be able to show he could drive the ball. He said his toe feels fine, but the top of his ankle is weak after being in a boot for eight weeks.
“I need to keep getting that stronger,” he said.
Clausen played the final nine games this past season with two torn tendons in his right foot, which he said were misdiagnosed as turf toe. He said he has been told by doctors he should have had surgery the day after he was injured against Michigan State on Sept. 19 and sat out the rest of the season.
Clausen ran for the first time on March 22, when he jogged two times around a track. He hopes to be 100 percent in about a month.
St. Louis Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo, whose team owns the first pick overall, wouldn’t give much away after watching the workout other than saying he was pleased with what he’s seen from Clausen, Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy.
“They’re all very impressive. I think we knew that going in,” he said.
Minnesota Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell was more specific about what he thought about Clausen’s workout.
“I thought he made some nice throws. He really did a good job for himself in terms of the types of balls that he threw. He threw some deep corner routes, he threw some comebacks, it gives you an opportunity to see how the ball comes out,” he said.
Some rating services have Clausen as the No. 4 player overall, ahead of former Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford. Others believe Clausen might fall to later in the first round like former Irish quarterback Brady Quinn(notes) did in 2007, when he was taken with the 22nd pick by the Cleveland Browns.
Clausen already has met with the Redskins and Browns and is scheduled to meet with the Bills and the Rams. Clausen also is scheduled to do a private workout with the Redskins next week.
Since the surgery in early January, Clausen has prepared for the draft by lifting weights in California and throwing passes to a variety of receivers, including two former USC players, safety Taylor Mays and defensive end Everson Griffen.
Clausen said he hasn’t decided if he’ll be in New York for the draft, saying he doesn’t know what will happen on April 22.
“I could go top five, top 10, I could go in the second round, I really don’t know,” he said. “My name’s going to get called and I’m going to have a lot of fun.”
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I wonder if the Browns were represented at his Pro Day?
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He's FAR from a QB Guru...And he's got no magic power to groom mid-late round QB's...That's laughable...
Mark Brunell. 5th Round Pick by the Green Bay Packers in 1993. Traded to Jacksonville in 1995. Made 3 Pro Bowls, led the Jaguars to 2 AFC Conference Championships.
Matt Hasselbeck. 6th round Pick by the Green Bay Packers in 1998. Traded to Seattle in 2001. 3 time Pro Bowler, 5 playoff appearances, 1 Super Bowl trip.
Aaron Brooks. 4th Round Pick by the Green Bay Packers in 1999. Wasn't a Pro Bowler but started 90 games in the NFL and had four pretty good seasons with the Saints from 2001-04.
Also, if you want to go way back. Steve Young was a mess in his first season with the Buccaneers. He got traded to the 49ers and sat behind Montana for four years (with Holmgren as his QB coach and OC).
So yeah. You're right. Holmgren didn't need to draft a 1st round QB. But he drafted some pretty good backups who became pretty good NFL starters.
WOW. Excelent observations and notes right there. Funny how, the later he drafted them, the more successful they were.
This is why I've been hoping all along that we get immediate impact guys in the first AND second rounds and Holmgren & Co. have their eyes on a QB they think will be good in the third or beyond. I see just enough downside in Bradford, Clausen, McCoy and Tebow to get nervous.
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I heard our director of college scouting was there.
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Wow, that doesn't say much about how we feel about him.., or does it say everything? 
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It says nothing one way or the other. These workouts are so overrated. Teams have basically had their boards set since February.
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I am not so sure about that Deep.
The workouts wont make wholesale changes but i have read before where it can make 1 or 2 spots especially where you have 2 guys that you have uqual
You are right though in one sence.....It is still overrated.
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For these QB's, unless it is absolutely awful or amazing, make no difference. They are expected to do well.
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True. The only surprises could be Tebow jumping McCoy. I'm hearing some rumblings on Tebow jumping into the late first. 
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I'd be somewhat surprised if he doesn't go in round 1.
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Wow, that doesn't say much about how we feel about him.., or does it say everything?
Didn't Holmgren go to Bradford's Pro Day? Somehow I don't get the feeling it was because he was dying to go to Norman Oklahoma.
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j/c The odd thing about this draft is every team has true "needs" unlike some drafts where the last four or five teams in the past were more likely to take "luxury picks" late in the first round. Which matches up with yet another odd thing. There are actually enough highly rated players at key positions like NT, DE, CB, OLB's, S and a couple of ILB's, that most every team in this draft can fill their key needs without really reaching very much. I could see this draft working out in a very strange way unlike many in the past. Due to the things I mentioned above, I can see what people call "skill positions" dropping in a very big way due to these circumstances. I can honestly say that I believe many highly taughted WR's may drop a lot and only see two legit. RB's worthy of a first round pick anyway. It could be something unlike anything we've seen before.  jmho
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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I disagree with draft countdown when they say that he has a quick release. Bradford has a quick release. Clausen's release is pedestrian in comparison.
I couldn't disagree with you more on this, Jester. Clausen's release is ridiculous. In fact, Clausen is the only qb I can remember saying "holy crap! Look at that guy's release!". And that was during the season way before people were going into deep evaluations of the draftees. I really would have no issue drafting clausen if berry is gone.
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Clausen has a good release. It isn't Bradford's by any means, but it's far from Tebow's.
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j/c I will go on record as saying I don't want Clausen, and it has nothing to do with his abilities. Something about the kid just strikes me as "punk." I have absolutely nothing to back it up, no proof of anything, just a "gut feeling." That being said, if we draft him and he leads us to the Super Bowl, I will gladly jump on the Clausen bandwagon.
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I'd be somewhat surprised if he doesn't go in round 1.
I'm just naive enough to be surprised if he does go in the 1st round. 
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I agree hat Clausen's release is in between Bradford and Tebow's. But looking at thae time from when they decide to throw and release the ball I would say Clausen is closer to Tebow than Bradford.
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http://www.nfl-trade-rumors.com/nfl-news.htmFormer Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen tried to show NFL teams Friday he is worth a first-round draft pick, though he's still not 100 percent healthy three months after surgery to repair torn tendons in his right foot. Clausen didn't run during the 30-minute throwing session attended by 16 of the 32 NFL teams. He completed 57 of 59 passes, overthrowing wide receiver Robby Parris on two long routes. His receivers also needed to make some nice catches on several other throws, with former Notre Dame running back James Aldridge twisting back to catch a short pass on his shoulder and former Irish receiver David Grimes speeding up to make a fingertip grab on a 50-yard pass.
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Man this is a heavy duty debate you guys got going..I actually read every page..I can honestly say that you all can be brutally honest when it comes right down to it..My take..
I know why people think you should take Claussen but the kid has never impressed me..Colt McCoy impresses me..In the end if it were up to me, I'd pass on selecting Claussen.
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I wonder if the Browns were represented at his Pro Day?
We were. I saw some of his workout on NFL net and a browns scout was highly visible....don't know who it was...some bald guy.
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Former Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen tried to show NFL teams Friday he is worth a first-round draft pick, though he's still not 100 percent healthy three months after surgery to repair torn tendons in his right foot.
Please not another Notre Dame qb with accuracy and foot problems...
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I'm surprised we aren't reading about teams being concerned about the nature of Bradford's and Clausen's injuries. I have read that both injuries - Bradford's shoulder and Clausen's torn foot tendons (Lisfranc, anyone?) - have the potential to be chronic and recurring.
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It worries me.....Bradford more than Clausen, but then i really hadn't read much about Clausens injury.
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At the same time, though, are there really any prospects in this draft, or any draft, who haven't had injuries in their career?
I understand that some guys might have injuries that predispose them to further injury or recurring injury, and that's certainly cause for concern.
But what was Courtney Brown's injury history at Penn St.? That's a serious question, because I have no idea. And what about Braylon tearing his ACL? I mean, anyone can get hurt at any time.
The concern is 100% legitimate, but I wouldn't want to miss on a guy just because he's had some injuries, especially if all the doctors pass him. I have to think front offices really grill the players AND the doctors about injuries.
JMHO
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I read that Bradford had bulked up some, but I think there should be legitimate doubts whether he could withstand the punishment a QB has to take in the NFL. Clausen's foot injury was originally diagnosed as turf toe, which is bad enough, but it turned out to be torn tendons in his foot and required surgery. Maybe someone with a medical background can clarify (or correct me) - I don't want to talk out of my arse - but I think torn tendons in the foot are generally referred to as a Lisfranc injury. There is a reason why the words "Lisfranc injury" are usually preceded by the word "dreaded".
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after watching both workout highlights on nfl network, Sams' release looked lighting fast compared to Jimmy's. I also don't like that Clausen didn't run at all. Sam was accurate mimicing the pocket and on the run. He did a lot of roll out our scramble simulations and was on the money with his throws. JC needed to move around more in my opinion.
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He told them he wasn't moving around as much because the toe is still only 85 %. The tapes show he can move just fine when he doesn't have torn tendons or in a walking boot. I doubt that affects his status one bit. Personally I think his release is quicker than Bradfords but in a strange way.. I watch some of them and think David Carr/Jay Cutler. I can't tell if the ball actually gets out faster or it's just the end of the short throwing motion when he hits the shorter stuff but that part of it almost looks Marino like.
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I get that he's not 100% for mobility, but I would have like to see him do some roll out throws regardless. In today's nfl you need to see how accurate a guy is on the move. imho
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Excerpt from Michael Lombardi, National Football Post http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sunday-at-the-Post-9702.html"5. My sources tell me that Browns president Mike Holmgren talked to Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen and told him that he has not ruled him out as the seventh overall pick, despite what he’s told the media. It was Holmgren who said he “wished he liked Jimmy Clausen more,” but after Clausen’s workout Friday, he does." Hmmm...Now this sounds like smokescreen to me.
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