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We have Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace. We have no QB of the future here and we have amassed a ton of picks in this draft.
Reasonable deductions would be that the Browns are going to draft a QB and very early. I would assume that this target would be Sam Bradford but it very well could be another QB. However, it certainly seems like Bradford/Clausen or bust. I'm fairly certain that there is no way the Browns stay at #7.
What do you think?
you had a good run Hank.
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I really only see one realistic scenario of us not staying at 7.
And that is if the Rams go against the current thought, and pass on Bradford. Then I think the Browns are trying to trade up.
But that isn't very likely. So here is how I see it. If Berry is there, we take him. If he isn't there, I think we would take Jason Pierre-Paul or Joe Haden (if he has a good pro day on Wednesday).
I don't see a scenario in which we could trade back really.
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We aren't drafting another first round QB.. too much risk.. and Holmgren doesn't have a history of drafting QB high...
I say 3rd round is the target.. I say Lefevour or Colt McCoy.. I'm kind of wanting McCoy..
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Holmgren does have a history of using high picks to acquire unproven QB's. Basically the same thing.
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Indecision may,or maynot,be my problem
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its not the same thing.. lol.
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I see very little difference.
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the difference that you are not seeing is called "risk"...
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Neither Hasslebeck nor Favre had proven a thing at that point. There was equal risk.
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I see us either trading up with the Rams to get Sam Bradford or taking Colt McCoy with our 2nd rounder.
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What happens if McCoy isn't there ?
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I jump up and down with joy. 
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LeFevour. Although he doesn't seem like he is very accurate either.
Jeven Snead? Zac Robinson?
I really have no clue. It does seem like Holmgren has a plan for the QB position though.
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Neither Hasslebeck nor Favre had proven a thing at that point. There was equal risk.
Favre was not Holmgren. It was Ron Wolf.
Wolf fired Infante then went and hired Holmgren and then traded for Favre. The GM made that decision not the newly hired coach.
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You think he didn't have an impact on that? He was part of the organization that made the move.
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Just my opinon...
We go defence this year, heavy on Defence 9- 10 of our picks Defence.
Only way we go QB is if one we like fall to the 3rd round, and to me that would be a McCoy, Tebow or Pike maybe the guy fro C.michigan
Jake is here to hand-off the ball, not pass for 300 - 400 yards a game, let our defence put our offence in good postions and we play to win close games.
Next year we go QB, let him sit a year in 2011, Jake will be gone in 2012 and then that QB will be starting..
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Maybe that's why we signed Delhomme. Holmgren knows we are guaranteed the #1 pick if he starts for us, therefore locking up Jake Locker for us. I knew he was a genius! 
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You think he didn't have an impact on that? He was part of the organization that made the move.
But that is not what you said, is it?
You said this...
"Holmgren does have a history of using high picks to acquire unproven QB's. Basically the same thing. "
He may have been part of the room but it was ultimately Wolf's pick and call.
Just like whatever draft pick we make this year will not be Mangini's pick but Heckert's.
Being the expert, you could always call your sources so we find out for sure.
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LOL
Keep making digs at me. I don't care. Holmgren being a part of the organization that has traded for two unproven QB's (one of the times he was the man in charge) has virtually no distinction between what I said.
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I think that our qb spot is already filled for at least two years. Mike Holmgren believes that with our o-line and great running game, a veteran qb is exactly what we need. - A little ball control, nothing more, nothing less.
I think that we our going to choose defensive players with 80% of our draft picks this year. - Notably in the first and second rounds.
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I disagree.
However I will play along. Using your logic, I hope Mangini picks a good quarterback in this draft.
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neither lets groom Cribbs to run the WCO!!!! haha
Id rather have Bradford then clausen.....but dont want to miss on Eric Berry!
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2012 and then that QB will be starting
Great.. the year the world ends, we finally have something to look forward to.  
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Yeah, once the world ends we won't have to worry about crappy QB's anymore. Right?
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Draft another qb? The cleveland browns? What do they say abouT history and people that are doomed?
I wouldn't go near a qb this year, stop drafting quarterbacks. Yes it took me 11 years to realize this.
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Draft another qb? The cleveland browns? What do they say abouT history and people that are doomed?
I wouldn't go near a qb this year, stop drafting quarterbacks. Yes it took me 11 years to realize this.
LOL
So I guess the phrase "try and try again" never applied to you. Can't get a job? Oh well, better stop, I guess it's just not for me.
Buck, man, you need to go focus on something else. It's quite clear you thought more of this team than the FO. I guess if I thought this team was a player away from the playoffs, I'd be upset too but man...you need to realize that what this FO is doing is probably the right thing to do.
you had a good run Hank.
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Great.. the year the world ends, we finally have something to look forward to.
look at the bright side, World ends in December, atleast will have 3 1/2 months to watch him, and listen to this board scream about what a bumb he is and what a wasted pick he is and we should be playing his back-up. 
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McCoy is also in the mix.
Depending on how the top part of the draft goes. If they are unable to get Clausen or Bradford then McCoy will be a consideration.
Although the draft is hard to predict the further it goes; given the current draft order you would think McCoy would be there for us in the second.
The Browns have enough ammo to go get him if needed in the bottom of the first.
Yesterday I spent about 45 minutes looking at as much info and film as I could find on McCoy. I came away feeling he could be a good fit for WCO. He handles pressure well. He can run and throw on the run. He is accurate. He can put touch on the ball. He appears to be a leader and hard worker. He is not the biggest guy or have the strongest arm but he makes plays under pressure.
One thing is very clear. The Browns are "all in" on this draft and we will draft what MH,and TH believe is our future QB.
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LeFevour. Although he doesn't seem like he is very accurate either.
Jeven Snead? Zac Robinson?
I really have no clue. It does seem like Holmgren has a plan for the QB position though.
I agree, it does seem like MH has a plan for the QB position... which is why I do NOT think he has a pecking order of QBs and when he will take them. I think he has his eye on one... maybe two... QBs in the draft that he wants and he knows where he wants to take them and if they are gone, he will pass on a QB this year. I do not see him saying, well Bradford is gone, what about Clausen in the second? Well Clausen is gone, what about LeFevour? Well LeFevour is gone, what about... I don't think that's going to happen. He has his top 1 or 2 and he isn't going to take anybody else, no matter how far they drop.. that's JMHO.
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I agree with that. I think he has 1 or 2 guys (like you said) and an idea of where they should go. I think he will go get one of those guys either by using one of the picks we already have or trading up.
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I'm telling you man. The qb position for the next two years is set. We are going to be taking defensive players in rounds 1,2, and 3. - The offense was addressed via free agency.
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I'm telling you man. The qb position for the next two years is set. We are going to be taking defensive players in rounds 1,2, and 3. - The offense was addressed via free agency.
If Delhomme and Wallace are the plan for the next two years, we're in big trouble. I don't think we're done at the QB spot. Not by a long shot.
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How can you say that for certain? Anything/Everything can change in the blink of an eye on draft day.
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Agreed. - However, that's a mighty big contract to give Delhomme to sit. - He's our qb.
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I think he starts out our QB. But that $7 million won't stop us from improving the QB position through the draft.
If the Rams don't pick Bradford with the #1 pick I expect we will try and trade up with the Bucs and take him there.
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Personally I think drafting a QB this year is not a good idea. There will be atleast 3 QB's available in next years draft that are better than this years class. I'm crossing my fingers that we do not draft a QB with our first round pick or our second round pick for that matter.
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I'll give you a what if scenario.
What if Jake Delhomme plays reasonably well for (we go 7-9, 8-8, 9-7)? We are now drafting in the middle of the 1st round in 2011 and the three top QB's are all gone by the time our pick rolls around (Mallet, Locker, Ponder I'm assuming).
Now we have a 36 year old starting QB with a 31 year old backup. With no top QB prospects in our grasps.
I agree that next year's QB's look pretty good, but I don't think the plan should be, "The QB's next year will be better, we should wait." The plan should be get a player now that we like so we don't have to worry about it next off-season as well.
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I'll give you a what if scenario.
What if Jake Delhomme plays reasonably well for (we go 7-9, 8-8, 9-7)? We are now drafting in the middle of the 1st round in 2011 and the three top QB's are all gone by the time our pick rolls around (Mallet, Locker, Ponder I'm assuming).
Now we have a 36 year old starting QB with a 31 year old backup. With no top QB prospects in our grasps.
I agree that next year's QB's look pretty good, but I don't think the plan should be, "The QB's next year will be better, we should wait." The plan should be get a player now that we like so we don't have to worry about it next off-season as well.
Now THIS is why I visit here,....another good Catch 22 look at what is/may/could/ought/might/should/ain't,.... a consideration that some of us had not even labotomized.
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