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Spiller pick- hate it. Harrison deserves the shot, James Davis hasn;t had his shot and Hillis shows potential. Why get another back who won;t even be used in the return game since we have Cribbs? Horrible.
McCoy pick- Dig it. I've become a McCoy convert. A year of sitting and learning and I think he'll be good for us.
Chad Jones pick- Dig it. He's decent now and has alot of upside
Spikes/Gibson picks- Why would we pick up TWO linebackers when our starters are established and still fairly young? If we took one, I'm good but why not address offensive or defensive line with the other??
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I guess the way I look at it is that, unless you are totally sold that the guy is the next Adrian Peterson RB, you can live with what you've got, especially when we got some production last year out of our RBs. It seems that, just about every year, there's a few top-notch RBs in the draft. So, once again, unless the Browns really feel that Spiller is the real deal, I don't see us using no. 7 on him when we can get someone who will really fill a big need area for us (CB or S sticks out in my mind).
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Spiller pick- Eh? I'm so-so on that pick. I think Spiller is going to be a very good player in the NFL, but I feel like we have MUCH bigger needs to fill in the first round.
McCoy pick- LOVE IT! I'm a bigger Colt McCoy fan than most. I think he's going to be a great player.
Jones pick- Like Canada said, lot's of potential.
Spikes pick- Love it. In the 3rd round, it's a steal.
Gibson pick- Don't like it. But, only because in this scenario we would have just taken Spikes the pick before.
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Saw Kirwan's mock online yesterday. I would HATE the Spiller pick. Maybe if he was another Adrian Peterson, I could see it. He isn't. Pick #7 is too high for that guy (particularly when you have the best CB and/or the #1b or #2 safety in this draft still on the board).
The rest of his draft for us is OK. If we think McCoy can develop into a top-notch starter, then go get him if he's available.
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I'd be completely shocked if we were to select Spiller at 7. It's gotta be Berry or even Haden, if not, we could really use some strength on the rt side of the OL. I'd be perfectly happy taking one of the these top tackles that WILL be available to us especially if we're thinking of taking Tebow in the second.
With possibly the best tackle combo in the NFL I could see Tebow having the best opportunity to excel sooner than later in this league.
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I think if Berry is gone we will try very hard to trade down into the middle of the draft and take Odrick.
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I'd be happy with that as well,...even more so.
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It's just nice to know that we have options, and regardless of what, if any trades transpire we can vastly improve the condition of this team.
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7) Eric Berry FS Tennessee
38) Colt McCoy QB Texas
71) Toby Gerhart RB Stanford
85) Mike Johnson G Alabama
92) Reshad Jones S Georgia
134) Clifton Geathers DE South Carolina
146) Riley Cooper WR Florida
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I never stated that it was Clay Matthew's son, homeslice.
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I see Spiller more like Barry Sanders,
I really hope you were kidding with this statement
Not kidding at all. Like Sanders, Spiller is an elusive back, similar in size and with the ability to break away the run.
You keep thinking that Jerome Harrison is the answer.
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there will never be another Barry Sanders.. He was that great. Same as Jim Brown... They both are in a class of their own.
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But Heyward-Bey is blazing fast! That's the only prerequisite for a receiver, don't ya know?  Having hands to catch the ball is only a secondary requirement.
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I see Spiller more like Barry Sanders,
I really hope you were kidding with this statement
Not kidding at all. Like Sanders, Spiller is an elusive back, similar in size and with the ability to break away the run.
You keep thinking that Jerome Harrison is the answer.
Harrison may or may not be the answer, but I can almost guarantee that Spiller will not even touch Barry Sanders production.
Spiller is a decent rotational back and his peak upside is Chris Johnson. Unfortunately, the odds that he makes that potential are quite low. And taking a RB in the top 10 is just asking for a lot of trouble.
you had a good run Hank.
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there will never be another Barry Sanders.. He was that great. Same as Jim Brown... They both are in a class of their own.
Did I ever say that there was ever going to be another Barry Sanders? I compared him to Barry Sanders because of his size, elusiveness and speed. Sanders had those same qualities.
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Harrison may or may not be the answer, but I can almost guarantee that Spiller will not even touch Barry Sanders production.
Are you people just dense? I never stated that he would be Barry Sanders. His size, elusiveness and speed is like Sanders. I suppose that you misread what I wrote and thought that I compared his attributes to those of Jerome Bettis.
I mean seriously, can you even comprehend what you read or do you just see the words "Spiller" and "Sanders" in the same sentence and then make up some mythical statements that I said that Spiller will be the next Barry Sanders?
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And taking a RB in the top 10 is just asking for a lot of trouble.
I seem to remember it working out rather well for most teams selecting a Top 10 RB.
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You can't use any HOF player's name to make comparisons, unless you want to be relentlessly bashed. It doesn't matter if you think there is a similar skillset, nobody can get past the idea that you are saying CJS is BS.
The most common comparisons are Reggie Bush, Chris Johnson, and Felix Jones. I like to say he's a faster Michael Westbrook, as I think he has better vision and runs with more wiggle inside than Bush does, and he's not quite as fast as Johnson.
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You can't use any HOF player's name to make comparisons, unless you want to be relentlessly bashed. It doesn't matter if you think there is a similar skillset, nobody can get past the idea that you are saying CJS is BS.
And if someone consistently attributes things to me that I didn't write then I'll continue to think they lack the mental capacity to be taken seriously. If you take from what I wrote that Spiller is the equal of Barry Sanders, then you're an idiot.
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I didn't compare him to Reggie Bush because I think he's more talented than Reggie Bush. I didn't compare him to Felix Jones because Jones is bigger and slower. The closest one to compare him to would be Chris Johnson. If he performs like Chris Johnson has, any fan of the Browns should be ecstatic if we got him at #7.
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I never stated that he would be Barry Sanders. His size, elusiveness and speed is like Sanders.
Can't imagine why you would ever say you are comparing him to Spiller when you say he has the size, elusiveness and speed like Sanders. 
He has no talents that are "like" Sanders, not even close. Spiller is much more like Bush with his elusiveness and speed, and size.
So don't call me dense for saying Spiller doesn't have talents anything "like" Sanders had.
you had a good run Hank.
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Can't imagine why you would ever say you are comparing him to Spiller when you say he has the size, elusiveness and speed like Sanders.
The assertion was that he would put up numbers like Sanders did. I never said such a thing. I never said that he was the second coming of Barry Sanders either. I compared their physical attributes and style of play. Nothing more. You're reading words that ain't there, man. Better have your eyes (or brain) checked.
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He has no talents that are "like" Sanders, not even close. Spiller is much more like Bush with his elusiveness and speed, and size.
Says you. You're entitled to your opinion though. For what it's worth, Reggie Bush has a Super Bowl ring. 
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You're dense for suggesting that I said that he did.
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So don't call me dense for saying Spiller doesn't have talents anything "like" Sanders had.
You're dense for suggesting that I said that he did.
You sat here and compared their skill set as being close to the same. Now you're sitting here saying their skill set isn't the same?
Make up our minds will ya?
If they had "similar skill sets", you'd be expecting "similar results". If they don't have similar skill sets, you won't be expecting similar results. Pretty basic actually.
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Final Browns mock. Probably. Not considering any trades. Roughly based on cbssports.com prospect ratings (1) 7 Jimmy Clausen QB ND Oh yes I did. You guys are all crazy. This kid is going to be really, really good. Accuracy, good arm, plays great under pressure and makes good decisions. Gets better with the game on the line. (2) 38 Tyson Alualu DE Cal Some call it a reach, that's okay with me. I don't like anybody better at this range. Durable, productive, played 3-4 DE at Cal. (3) 71 Chad Jones S LSU Great potential. Said to be the best athlete on the team. Kind of a boom or bust pick. (3) 85 Daniel Te'o-Nesheim DE UW Steal of the draft. This dude is going to be awesome. Really good vertical leap and short shuttle. (3) 92 Mike Johnson G Alabama Better slow down and get a lineman. Need pick. (5) 134 Major Wright S Florida Another body in the backfield. Tough and smart. (5) 146 Emmanuel Sanders WR Southern Methodist Workout numbers are awesome. Career leader in receptions, touchdown catches and receiving yards at S.M. Kicked Nevada's ass in the Hawaii Bowl. (5) 160 Jarrett Brown QB WV Unreal potential, I'd love to get this guy. (6) 177 Eric Olsen C ND Looked like BPA, between him and DB Lindley. Versatile and nasty. Have fun setting this one on fire gents. I'm going to bed.
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My final mock...I expect trades and don't have any on here. I also expect Cleveland will have at least 2 first rounders today, again, not on here. Some potential surprises on here...
1…St Louis…Sam Bradford…QB
2…Detroit…Ndamukong Suh…DT
3…Tampa Bay…Gerald McCoy…DT
4…Washington…Trent Williams…OT
5…Kansas City…Eric Berry…S
6…Seattle…Bryan Bulaga…OT
7…Cleveland…Kyle Wilson…CB
8…Oakland…Taylor Mays…S
9…Buffalo…Dan Williams…NT
10…Jacksonville…Joe Haden…CB
11…Denver…Rolando McClain…ILB
12…Miami…Earl Thomas…S
13…San Francisco…Russell Okung…OT
14…Seattle…Jimmy Clausen…QB
15…NY Giants…Sean Weatherspoon…OLB
16…Tennessee…Derrick Morgan…DE
17…San Francisco…Devin McCourty…CB
18…Pittsburgh…Maurkice Pouncey…C
19…Atlanta…Brandon Graham…DE
20…Houston…Ryan Mathews…RB
21…Cincinnati…Jermaine Gresham…TE
22…New England…C.J. Spiller…RB
23…Green Bay…Anthony Davis…OT
24…Philadelphia…Jason Pierre-Paul…DE
25…Baltimore…Jared Odrick…DE
26…Arizona…Sergio Kindle…OLB
27…Dallas…Dez Bryant…WR
28…San Diego…Terrence Cody…NT
29…NY Jets…Mike Iupati…OG
30…Minnesota…Kareem Jackson…CB
31…Indianapolis…Rodger Saffold…OT
32…New Orleans…Tyson Alualu…DT
Cleveland's Draft (I didin't double check the numbers, I think this is right):
7…Cleveland…Kyle Wilson…CB
38…Cleveland…Colt McCoy…QB
71…Cleveland…Morgan Burnett…SS
85…Cleveland…Brandon Lang…OLB
92…Cleveland…Jacoby Ford…WRS
134…Cleveland…Kam Chancellor…FS
146…Cleveland…Sam Young…OT
160…Cleveland…Jeff Owens…NT
177…Cleveland…Vince Oghobaase…DE
186…Cleveland…Eric Olsen…OC/OG
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7…Cleveland…Kyle Wilson…CB
38…Cleveland…Colt McCoy…QB
71…Cleveland…Morgan Burnett…SS
85…Cleveland…Brandon Lang…OLB
92…Cleveland…Jacoby Ford…WRS
134…Cleveland…Kam Chancellor…FS
146…Cleveland…Sam Young…OT
160…Cleveland…Jeff Owens…NT
177…Cleveland…Vince Oghobaase…DE
186…Cleveland…Eric Olsen…OC/OG
if we select Kyle Wilson over Joe Haden and Earl Thomas I will be extremely upset.
of your picks, I like Burnett in the 3rd the best.
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1 St. Louis Rams- Ndamukong Suh-DT-Nebraska
2 Detroit Lions- Gerald McCoy-DT-Oklahoma
3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Eric Berry-S-Tennessee
4 Washington Redskins- Sam Bradford-QB-Oklahoma
5 Kansas City Chiefs- Russell Okung-T-Oklahoma State
6 Seattle Seahawks- Bryan Bulaga-T-Iowa
7 Cleveland Browns- Earl Thomas-S-Texas
8 Oakland Raiders- Joe Haden-CB-Florida
9 Buffalo Bills- Trent Williams-T-Oklahoma
10 Jacksonville Jaguars- Dez Bryant-WR-Oklahoma State
11 Denver Broncos (from Chicago)- Mike Iupati-G-Idaho
12 Miami Dolphins- Derrick Morgan-OLB-Georgia Tech
13 San Francisco 49ers- Sergio Kindle-OLB-Texas
14 Seattle Seahawks (from Denver)- Taylor Mays-S-USC
15 New York Giants- Rolando McClain-ILB-Alabama
16 Tennessee Titans- Kyle Wilson-CB-Boise State
17 San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina)- C.J. Spiller-RB-Georgia
18 Pittsburgh Steelers- Jimmy Clausen-QB- Notre Dame
19 Atlanta Falcons- Brandon Graham-DE-Michigan
20 Houston Texans- Ryan Mathews-RB-Fresno State
21 Cincinnati Bengals- Jermaine Gresham-TE-Oklahoma
22 New England Patriots-Dan Williams-DT-Tennessee
23 Green Bay Packers- Anthony Davis-T-Rutgers
24 Philadelphia Eagles- Sean Weatherspoon-OLB-Missouri
25 Baltimore Ravens- Jared Odrick-DE-Penn State
26 Arizona Cardinals- Carlos Dunlap-DE-Florida
27 Dallas Cowboys- Bruce Campbell-T-Maryland
28 San Diego Chargers- Terrence Cody-NT-Alabama
29 New York Jets- Jerry Hughes-OLB-TCU
30 Minnesota Vikings- Devin McCourty-CB-Rutgers
31 Indianapolis Colts- Kareem Jackson-CB-Alabama
32 New Orleans Saints- Everson Griffen-DE-USC
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of your picks, I like Burnett in the 3rd the best.
its just a gut feeling that we like Wilson over Haden
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Browns picks... #7 Jimmy Clausen #38- Colt McCoy #71- John Skelton #85- Dan LeFevour #92- Tony Pike #134- Jevan Snead #146- Mike Kafka #160- Zac Robinson #177- Daryll Clark #186- Jonathan Crompton You would think ONE of them would eventually work out
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Pat Kirwan's Mock from NFL.com LINK
7. Cleveland Browns
C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
Spiller is a 20-touch-a-game guy right away between rushing, receiving and returns. With an aging veteran quarterback like Jake Delhomme -- who knew how to get the ball in Steve Smith's hands for years in Carolina -- Spiller could get close to 1,800 yards of total offense in his rookie season.
38. Cleveland Browns
Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
The Browns passed on Jimmy Clausen in the first round, but now take the guy being compared to Drew Brees. I had one club executive tell me that if McCoy gets under the guidance of Mike Holmgren in a West Coast offense, he will be a solid starter by 2011 and make people regret they passed on him in the draft. It's hard to ignore McCoy's college production, as the Longhorn QB threw 112 touchdown passes and for 13,253 yards.
71. Cleveland Browns
Chad Jones, S, LSU
Jones is also a baseball player and has good ball skills. He brings size and range to the position.
85. Cleveland Browns
Brandon Spikes, LB, Florida
Spikes may have run a slow 40-yard dash, but he makes plays on the field and is a value pick in the third round. He belongs in a 3-4 defense, playing the strong side at 249 pounds.
92. Cleveland Browns
Thaddeus Gibson, LB, Ohio State
Gibson did not have a lot of sack production in college, but was an active outside linebacker who probably thought he was going in the first round. He plays hard, is a good athlete and will make a name for himself on special teams.
I like all the picks outside of #7. I just don't see us taking a RB in the first. Swap out Spiller for Haden or Trent WIlliams and it would be better.
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Not sure where to put this, but there's two Kentucky guys I gotta pimp here. Scout has both of them as 7th round picks. I think it's a joke for both of them to be that low. Trevard Lindley-CB Some were saying he might be a first round pick if he had come out after his Junior season. Came back, spent most of the year hurt, but is now a 7th rounder?  Give me this kid in the 7th, and we have a solid #2 corner for years. Bank on it. Kid is going to be good. The other guy, LB-Micah Johnson, I thought would have been maybe a 5th round pick. I'm not as sold on him being a good player in the leage as I am Lindley, but he's worth a gamble in the 7th.
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Exposed? He spent most of the year in the trainers room
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I thought Lindley looked good for the 6th pick in my mock, shied away due to the injuries.
Cleveland doesn't have a 7th.
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