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I'm not even sure who I'd prefer there. Probably McCoy, but I'm not certain.
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Rish, what you are forgetting is that not all those QB's were drafted in the first. And some like Trent Dilfer and Kerry Collins(not a winner) were average at best QB's that went to the SuperBowl with teams that did not draft them. Tom Brady- 6th Round, Kurt Warner- undrafted, (Hasselback-6th round, Delhomme-undrafted, Chris Chandler-3rd, Rich Gannon-4th, Brad Johnson-9th, Brett Favre-2nd, Drew Brees-2nd, Neil Odonnell-3rd. to name a few. Not all were winners but made it and some beat first roun QB's..They came from everywhere in the draft. I would consider Brady, Warner, Favre, Brees, Hasselback and Delhomme all Franchise QB's for their teams. Can you imagine how New England's History would change if they felt the need to draft Pennington just to have a QB instead of Brady.
Loyal, interesting perspective.
But a couple of things jumped out to me with the names you mentioned. Most of those guys were big question marks either early on in their careers or for most of their careers. Guys like Chandler, Johnson, and Gannon didn't really do much with their first teams and only became good much later in their careers. Other guys had to have something happen to the starter to get a chance.
My fear is rolling the dice and gambling on something like that happening for us. I would rather take 'even money' so to speak. If we're attempting to get a project to groom, he has to pass two tests ... a) 'can he?' and b) 'when?'.
I'm not interested in waiting around for those answers.
But it did make me think and to dong's point, we may not have a choice. Only so many Mannings come down the pike.
At the same time, I think we are seeing some serious over exaggeration as far as the compensation for trading up and picking Bradford. I've heard things like giving up our entire draft and so forth. For starters, that won't happen. But I really hope Holmgren will take a good long look at a deal even if it's a bit lopsided. Get the QB in place. Building the team will be so much easier after that.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Turns out I wasn't actually drunk when I was in the same bar standing next to him downtown several months ago, making the observation that he was shorter than listed. 
If there's one guy who is in the NFL that I'd compare to McCoy, it's Alex Smith, but not for the right reasons.
Both played exclusively from the spread, neither has a strong arm (Smith's is bigger than Colt's), neither was ever tested in terms of getting hit and hit hard in college, and both were celebrated for running offenses that don't equate well to the NFL.
Unfortunately for Colt, he's a midget in terms of being an NFL passer, so even if people liked what they saw in college, it's going to be hard projecting him to become a starter in the near future.
I don't really see him even as a 2nd rounder. To me, he's a 3rd rounder at best, and a 4th or even 5th rounder at worst. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't the 3rd QB taken in this draft.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/36759...leveland-browns2010 NFL Draft: Colt McCoy or Tim Tebow for the Cleveland Browns? by Brian DiTullio Written on March 23, 2010 Harry How/Getty Images Vote Now! - Author Poll Who Would You Want The Cleveland Browns To Draft As Quarterback? Colt McCoy Tim Tebow vote to see results Cleveland Browns Team President Mike Holmgren is planning to draft a quarterback next month, and Colt McCoy and Tim Tebow would appear to be the leading candidates. Appearances can be deceiving, but in this case, if a team wants a closer look, as they do with McCoy and Tebow, they don’t do it lightly. Holmgren has been very candid about the Browns’ search for a new franchise quarterback, unusual for a front office executive but very refreshing from a fans’ standpoint. It could be Holmgren has decided it takes more energy to dissemble than to just throw his cards out on the table, and he’s probably right. The Browns current quarterback situation consists of an aging veteran who showed a serious breakdown last year, a career backup, and a very raw third string quarterback. When you look at it that way, trying to pretend your team isn’t going to draft a quarterback seems pretty silly (Eric Mangini, take note of this). Going through the list of top-rated quarterbacks available in this year’s draft, Sam Bradford has become the consensus first pick, whether he goes to the St. Louis Rams or Washington Redskins, Bradford won’t be on the board when the Browns pick at No. 7. Holmgren also has said he’s not really interested in trading up for Bradford, and very few scenarios are out there that would drop Bradford into the Browns’ lap, although Bleacher Report’s Featured Columnists have declined to take Bradford through 26 picks of our first round mock. Moving to Jimmy Clausen, Holmgren stated he wished he liked Clausen better. While the statement conceivably could be a smokescreen, I doubt it given Holmgren’s penchant for brutal honesty. It's safe to say, at this point, Clausen’s chances of being a Cleveland Brown range somewhere between slim and none. The next two quarterbacks to consider are McCoy and Tebow. McCoy is projected to go in the second round in some mocks, and as low as the fourth round in others. Tebow is a lightning rod of debate, but few expect him to last into the third round. I talked about McCoy here, and my stance on McCoy hasn’t changed. He has a lot of talent and if anyone can turn McCoy into a Pro Bowl quarterback, it’s Mike Holmgren. McCoy threw 112 touchdowns and 45 interceptions in his four years as a starter at Texas, with a 70.3 percent completion rate. Those are good numbers, especially the accuracy, something that is critical with Cleveland’s wide receivers, who tend to drop a lot of passes in the last few years. Tebow has all the “intangibles,” if you ask the scouts, but his mechanics, long delivery style, and lack of experience taking snaps from center have raised huge red flags. But one of Tebow’s intangibles is his drive to succeed. Tebow has been successful at every level so far, and he’s got the personality to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. Tebow has thrown for more than 9,000 yards and 88 touchdowns in his four years as a Florida Gator. His completion percentage last year was 67.8. Tebow is slightly larger than McCoy, though, giving him the advantage there. There are a handful of other quarterbacks to consider, Jarrett Brown, Dan LeFevour, Jevan Snead, John Skelton, and Tony Pike, but McCoy and Tebow are the only two quarterbacks the Browns would consider trading back up into the second round for. With the amount of third and fourth round picks the Browns have at this time, trading up into the second round makes the most sense. So the question is, who do the Browns want, and what will they do to get their guy?
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I'd probably take Tebow. I think he's got the character to withstand adversity better than McCoy. I shouldn't say character, but the experience and perspective. Here, UT players are treated like royalty. It's like they're all in the beatles... and McCoy's the QB! Remember what happened when Vince Young was booed in Tenn? Tebow has done a bunch of "mission trips" to third world countries, and has already gone through publicly embarrasing situations and came out seemingly unscathed.
I really wouldn't mind if we took him if available at the top of the third tbh... but I don't think he will be available. JAX won't pass on him twice.
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If the Rams trade for McNabb what happens to Sam Bradford?
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The Browns get him. 
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If the Rams trade for McNabb what happens to Sam Bradford?
You are assuming that they give up thier 1st pick in the draft for him.. in that case, I don't know who the Eagles pick with it, but I'm pretty sure it's not Bradford.. so he drops.. how far, I don't know..
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If the Rams trade for McNabb what happens to Sam Bradford?
You are assuming that they give up thier 1st pick in the draft for him.. in that case, I don't know who the Eagles pick with it, but I'm pretty sure it's not Bradford.. so he drops.. how far, I don't know..
There is about a 0% chance that the Rams would give up the #1 pick for McNabb.
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There is about a 0% chance that the Rams would give up the #1 pick for McNabb.
No argument from me, I was just anwsering a questioning....
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You are assuming that they give up thier 1st pick in the draft for him.. in that case, I don't know who the Eagles pick with it, but I'm pretty sure it's not Bradford.. so he drops.. how far, I don't know..
either way (if the Rams still have that pick or the Eagles do), Bradford slips.
Lions don't take him (Stafford), and we'll see how much TB likes it's young QBs but they would be doubtful as well.
however, would Shanahan and Snyder let Bradford slip by them? he buys Shanahan time to build and gives Snyder the 'splash' he loves to make.
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There is about a 0% chance that the Rams would give up the #1 pick for McNabb.
No argument from me, I was just anwsering a questioning....
Well, ASSuming that it's for their 2nd pick, Suh goes first and Bradford AT LEAST falls to the Redskins, if someone doesn't trade up for him *like the Browns.*
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No they weren't assuming that. They were saying that if the Rams have McNabb, do they still draft Bradford at #1? And that is a very good question.
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I don't believe they would for one reason only: Money.
McNabb would want a contract extension to waive his no-trade clause, so they'd have to commit huge dollars to not one but two QB's beyond the 2010 season. If a team takes Bradford #1, it's highly unlikely they'll be content to let him sit there for two full seasons before making him the starter, again considering the amount of money they'd have invested into him.
All I know is that if we're not interested in McNabb, then I'm all for the Rams picking him up. That'd mean we'd stand a much greater chance of trading up for Bradford.
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No they weren't assuming that. They were saying that if the Rams have McNabb, do they still draft Bradford at #1? And that is a very good question.
Upon further review, if they some how pry McNabb from the Eagles for less than the 1st rounder, then maybe they do still draft Bradford and let him sit behind McNabb for a year or so to groom him up... just another possibility I suppose..
But seriously, what do you feel they'd need to give up to get McNabb if not the 1st pick? Just wondering..
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I would love for the Rams to trade for McNabb. It increases the odds of the draft going:
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3. Bucs trade to Browns who take Bradford.
how much are you willing to give up to make that happen?
I don't want to give up this year's 2nd or next year's 1st. likely, that would be a deal-breaker.
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that's thier second round pick... Could happen.. In light of the recent interview with Andy Reed, he may be considering all offers.. could happen
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It wouldn't cost nearly that much. Remember what it took for the Jets to trade up with us last year? It would be a lot less than that.
Daman, 33 is what's being talked about. Not just by me, but practically everyone. The rumors are swirling.
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I don't believe they would for one reason only: Money.
McNabb would want a contract extension to waive his no-trade clause, so they'd have to commit huge dollars to not one but two QB's beyond the 2010 season. If a team takes Bradford #1, it's highly unlikely they'll be content to let him sit there for two full seasons before making him the starter, again considering the amount of money they'd have invested into him.
All I know is that if we're not interested in McNabb, then I'm all for the Rams picking him up. That'd mean we'd stand a much greater chance of trading up for Bradford.
I dunno... I could see McNabb easily taking a 2 year deal and them still taking Bradford.
It'd give them McNabb for the immediate, with a pathway to Bradford the following year while still giving them McNabb that following year if Bradford isn't coming along as expected.
For McNabb, it gets him someplace he is wanted, but on a short enough stint to enter Free Agency in a year or two to try for one last big pay day.
it's actually Win-Win-Win all around.... the only hard part is them taking on big money for both, and there's no cap to sweat for this year, so they can front load the heck outta any McNabb deal.
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Right, the pick that will be traded for McNabb would be the first pick on the 2nd round and now O.J. Atogwe. Pretty much every mock draft I've seen has Bradford, McCoy, and Suh going 1, 2, and 3 in some order (Bradford always 1st). If the Rams were to take one of the DT's instead of Bradford that would leave the Bucs without the DT they seem like they want. The Bucs also drafted a QB in the 1st round last year, so that eliminates them from drafting a QB. So that means we would have to get ahead of the Redskins if we wanted a guaranteed chance at taking Bradford. But what if the Shanahan likes Campbell? The two picks after the Redskins are the Chiefs (Matt Cassel) and the Seahawks (Hasselbeck and Whitehurst). I think there is a small chance Bradford could fall to our pick if the Rams trade for McNabb and if the Redskins like Campbell. Wouldn't it be something if our franchise QB fell into our lap with the 7th pick in the draft?
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Well, even if a cap existed, McNabb isn't going to be asking for a 3-year deal. I'd expect he'd want a one-year extension at least, two at the most. If he wanted more, the Rams wouldn't even bother. So I don't believe a new CBA with a cap really plays much of a role. It'd just come back to money.
Figure McNabb for another $12 million per on his extension. I don't know what Stafford is getting, but it's got to be about the same, so slate Bradford in for that and maybe more.
With an extension, that'd be some $24 million per season for at least two seasons for their top-2 QB's.
It's plausible, but I think the Rams would choose one guy or another. Not both. The money is just too substantial. If McNabb is really good, Bradford never see's the field so he's a waste. If McNabb sucks, they've wasted $24 million or even more on him.
I think it'd be one or the other, but not both.
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Right. It's one or the other.
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well not only that buy in losing their 2nd round pick, they need another pick in another area to help their team. otherwise, they essentially spent their top two picks on qbs and strapped themselves in cash too? unlikely. maybe they take suh afterall.
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Ole Miss QB Jevan Snead was reportedly highly impressive in passing drills at the Rebels' Tuesday Pro Day.
Snead has a cannon, so he was bound to perform well in shorts. According to SI's Tony Pauline, scouts on hand said Snead's Pro Day was the most impressive of any quarterback's so far. The Steelers are said to be "very interested" in the ultra-talented, if highly inconsistent underclassman.
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After speaking to officials from five teams on hand, NFL Network's Mike Mayock reports that Central Michigan QB Dan LeFevour demonstrated "average" ability at his Wednesday Pro Day.
LeFevour struggled to throw spirals, his ball "wobbled" too much, and evaluators came away saying the four-year starter is merely a "fourth- or fifth-round quarterback." As suspected, LeFevour isn't a big-time prospect.
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Jevan Snead is going to do that, he'll shoot up draft boards because he has a huge arm...too bad he doesn't do well:
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Thanks for posting, Dong.
Snead is this generations Jim Drunkenmiller. He looks like an NFL QB, but doesn't play like a solid college one. It's that same look which prompted all the hype when he first came to Texas out of high school. He looked bad in scrimmages and practices so he couldn't beat out McCoy, then he transferred. He looked like a great QB in practices, but wilted far too often in games in college. Despite that, he declared for the NFL draft. Now, he's looking really capable when it's just shorts and a football in ideal conditions. Suddenly, his stock is really on it's way up.
No thanks on Snead. That's too much project for my liking.
As for Lefevour, my earlier opinion that he reminds me way too much of Frye hasn't changed based on that wording. He's a soft-tossin' gamer who gets by on guts in a weaker conference but will get exposed in the NFL. I wasn't that interested in him before and I'm not now. I know he's got a solid following amongst the faithful. Wish I shared the sentiment.
Yeah, these two could turn into NFL QB's someday, but IMHO neither of these two would be solid gambles with a mid-round pick.
I'm not even excited for a Pike, McCoy, or Tebow. Blecht! 
It's unlikely my pessimism with this QB-draft class is going to be proven out as completely correct, but if we don't take Bradford, I don't even want one drafted this year.
The tough part is I REALLY want someone to show me something that would lead me to change my mind about any of the three. 
McCoy: Lack of size, arm, and experience in an offense suited to hide what he doesn't do well.
Tebow: Lack of accuracy, the difficulty of changing one's throwing motion is immense, and like McCoy, in an offense that makes him a man amongst boys in college, but hides what he doesn't do well. I've never seen a college QB with windows as large as Tebow had. Remember, those were the same bigger windows that made you all believe Quinn was more accurate than he really was.
Pike: Again, a big, spread offense run outa the gun. I think he's the first Praying Mantis to play in the NFL...........walkin' stick-bug, that one. He could down in history as the biggest fragile QB in the history of the league. He's one skinny-skrawny ....
Jeesh..............I suppose if a gun were put to my head and I had to take one, I'd probably take Pike. McCoy and Tebow have the intangibles, but QB's don't use intangibles to throw a pass into a 4x4 window some 25-yards downfield. 
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But Toad my friend, we're not going to get Bradford, so which one of those also rans are you going to get behind as your choice, considering one of those will most probably be taken by us?
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Jeez, Tulsa...........why don't you just take Rhea Pearlman, Sandra Bernhard, and that British opera singin' chick from American Idol that looks like a bull-terrier, line them up in front of me, and tell me to pick one to be my wife until I die.
I think you forgot Nancy Pelosi...
Oh and I must have missed where who you tossed your support to?
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Jeez, Tulsa...........why don't you just take Rhea Pearlman, Sandra Bernhard, and that British opera singin' chick from American Idol that looks like a bull-terrier, line them up in front of me, and tell me to pick one to be my wife until I die.
not to worry, Cleveland starting QBs don't last that long. you'd only have to stay married for a year or so, and then spend another year or so in a messy divorce.
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No matter what Holmgren says about Clausen, it is smart to bring him just to see what he's all about.
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Absolutely.
It's very important to keep in mind the context in which Holmgren mentioned Clausen. He didn't just say "I wish I liked him more." The full context suggests he "wish he liked him more" with the 7th pick in the draft.
Big difference.
Considering I believe in my own twisted mind that we're strong candidates for a trade-down, that would suddenly make Holmgren "like him more" if we're picking at, say, 20 instead of 7.
I'm not a fan of Clausen's, but he's going to be a 1st round QB, and we need one. Like it or not, he's a guy that's in-play for us.
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I'm only a fan of trading down if Berry is gone.
The guy is just too good.
If we do trade down, I'd like to see us use what we acquire along with our 2nd to move back into the 1st so we can get two of the guys you mentioned. I'd really like to see 2 of Graham, Iupati,and McClain.
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NFL network analyst, Charles Davis says in his mock draft on NFL.com that Holgren may take Claussen if he falls to the # 7 spot in the draft. I wonder if MH is just putting up a big smoke screen by saying he's not interested in a QB with his first round pick. 
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I'd rather draft Timmy than Jimmy.
Timmy Couch?
I'm pretty sure he's dead.
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Timmy Couch?
I'm pretty sure he's dead.
naw, he's not dead. but his arm is in such bad shape after playing behind our OL's that they are thinking of making him the 1-armed man in the remake of The Fugitive.
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That mock draft was released before Holmgren's comments about Clausen.
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