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Interested in hearing what everyone thinks about this. Didn't see it posted here yet.

I think Florida and the NCAA should have a word with Urban, the kid wasn't misquoted. If Urban didn't like what he said, he should talk to the player and not the reporter that released it.

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SOOO glad we have a dramaless coach that runs a clean program. AKA THE OSU!!


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I read the quote and just like the author of the article, I thought for a brief moment "Uh. Oh. Did he say 'you know...a real quarterback'". Then as quickly as I had that moment, I thought "I'm sure he meant conventional QB."

Maybe Meyer really does need to walk away for a bit.


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I love tress but let's not go overboard, he's got snake in him for sure.


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I love tress but let's not go overboard, he's got snake in him for sure.




No kidding. I heard he yelled "Awww shucks!" just last week.

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No kidding. I heard he yelled "Awww shucks!" just last week.





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I didn't hear a threat....a heard a coach who got irritated at a reporter tell him he wasn't welcomed any more.

Good for him...LOL...you are a reporter for the Orlando Sentinel and the head coach of Florida tells you that you are no longer welcomed.....sounds like a career limiting move.


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I love tress but let's not go overboard, he's got snake in him for sure.




Anybody who lives by YSU can tell you that. But Ill take him any day

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Agreed,...They all have it. The difference is the venom of the snake,.....

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i heard the same thing...

and he was blunt.

if that was my son we'd be going at it right now....

he was showing restraint


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I didn't hear a threat....a heard a coach who got irritated at a reporter tell him he wasn't welcomed any more.

Good for him...LOL...you are a reporter for the Orlando Sentinel and the head coach of Florida tells you that you are no longer welcomed.....sounds like a career limiting move.




So that isn't a threat to your career?

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Sounds like a threat.

I don't like reporters...but this one didn't do anything wrong in this instance.

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My computer doesn't run right for some reason, so I apologize if I missed something in the beginning....... but what did this reporter say exactly? He didn't seem to be acting inappropriately.

Did Meyer not like the quote? Or did he not know exactly what this kid said?

Before I watched the video, it sounded like it was a case of a reporter egging on the coach, and the coach had every right to get upset. But I didn't see anything from the video showing the reporter doing anything wrong. Looked like Meyer just had his panties in a ruffle that day. Maybe his breasts were getting tender.

Could be that time of the month.


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My computer doesn't run right for some reason, so I apologize if I missed something in the beginning....... but what did this reporter say exactly? He didn't seem to be acting inappropriately.





Here is the excerpt from the article about the quote.

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“You never know with Tim,” Thompson said. “You can bolt, you think he’s running but he’ll come up and pass it to you. You just have to be ready at all times. With Brantley, everything’s with rhythm, time. You know what I mean, a real quarterback.”

Thompson’s comment was either intentional or he meant to say Brantley’s a more conventional style of quarterback.

I’ve received plenty of feedback Tuesday from Thompson supporters vouching for the guy. I’ve interviewed Thompson numerous times in the past and he never said anything inflammatory.

Either way, Thompson’s ready to be the top receiver for Florida.




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I didn't hear a threat....a heard a coach who got irritated at a reporter tell him he wasn't welcomed any more.

Good for him...LOL...you are a reporter for the Orlando Sentinel and the head coach of Florida tells you that you are no longer welcomed.....sounds like a career limiting move.




So that isn't a threat to your career?

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Sounds like a threat.

I don't like reporters...but this one didn't do anything wrong in this instance.





How do you know...the vid didn't go in to what happened a few seconds before.


So being kicked out of practice is a threat...well....ok...to me a threat is telling the guy I will gouge out his eyes or something like that. telling him he won't or isn't welcomed because the guy is an ass...that's the way it goes.


If you are the coach and it is his practice field, he gets to determine exactly what being an ass is....what's new here??


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How do you know...the vid didn't go in to what happened a few seconds before.




So you are saying something happened just before the video was shot that justifies Urban's reaction? Can you share it?


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So being kicked out of practice is a threat...well....ok...to me a threat is telling the guy I will gouge out his eyes or something like that.




So are you saying that telling someone you will prevent them from doing their job is not a threat? Can there be more than one way to threaten somebody?



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telling him he won't or isn't welcomed because the guy is an ass...that's the way it goes.




How is the guy an ass? Reporting what was said makes him an ass...or just not covering up something? If Florida looks like crap this year does the local media have to blow sunshine up people's butts so they don't risk losing access to cover the team?


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If you are the coach and it is his practice field, he gets to determine exactly what being an ass is....what's new here??




The reporter writes his articles, but apparently Urban gets to decide what goes in them...now who is being the ass?

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I didn't hear a threat....a heard a coach who got irritated at a reporter tell him he wasn't welcomed any more.

Good for him...LOL...you are a reporter for the Orlando Sentinel and the head coach of Florida tells you that you are no longer welcomed.....sounds like a career limiting move.




The "If it were my son, we'd be going at it right now," was a threat. Meyer is mad because the reporter exactly what the reciever said. Now if Meyer doesn't like that, take it up with the player, or address how many people took it out of context, don't get mad at someone for actually, for once, accurately reporting what was said.

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While the Orlando Slantinel would deserve being banned from something, what exactly was wrong here? I just don't understand.

Apparently quoting a receiver about how the future looks bright with a new qb is grounds for banishment? I read the original story and it was the receiver praising the new qb. Yes, if I was that kids dad, I would clearly want to fight over that! Unless of course they are mentioning about how he bashed Tebow in the quote...but of course, Tebow is no longer a Gator so why would that matter?

I hate you and ban you from attending my practices because you quoted a player talking about how the future of the new qb is bright! Meyer has lost it.


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So are you saying that telling someone you will prevent them from doing their job is not a threat? Can there be more than one way to threaten somebody?



Reporters are allowed onto the practice field, onto the sidelines, into the lockerroom, etc by approval of the team.. Urban Meyer didn't threaten his job and tell him he can't be a sports reporter any more or that he can't cover the Gators any more, he just told him he couldn't be on the practice field any more, which I believe is well within his rights...


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The reporter quoted the WR and then Meyer is tells the reporter to stay away from the practice field (Meaning, you can't do your job in the future)....that's a threat. Meyer is wrong there.

The WR had it in his head right, he just said it wrong. There's a difference between a QB and a passer. This new QB will probably be a better passer than Tebow. And as a WR, that's good for accuracy AND the fact the new QB won't be running the ball 33% of the plays either. But a better QB....not likely.

Meyer needs to calm down and apologize.
The WR needs to clarify what he meant (though we all know what he was trying to say)


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Reporters are allowed onto the practice field, onto the sidelines, into the lockerroom, etc by approval of the team.. Urban Meyer didn't threaten his job and tell him he can't be a sports reporter any more or that he can't cover the Gators any more, he just told him he couldn't be on the practice field any more, which I believe is well within his rights...




But what did he do to get that puinishment? Quote a WR on Meyer's team. I'm not understanding why, even if it's within Meyer's rights, to ban the reporter from the practice field. He didn't do anything wrong.


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Reporters are allowed onto the practice field, onto the sidelines, into the lockerroom, etc by approval of the team.. Urban Meyer didn't threaten his job and tell him he can't be a sports reporter any more or that he can't cover the Gators any more, he just told him he couldn't be on the practice field any more, which I believe is well within his rights...




Understood...now if Joe Johnson gets on the bad side of Bill Jones and gets banned from the field is he really a good guy to have covering the team anymore? Urban can do whatever Urban wants on the Gator field however that doesn't make him right.

I wonder if Urban would feel the same way if someone treated his daughter the same way he treated the reporter...

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Punch and Lex.. I never said Urban was right or justified in what he did... I just said it didn't rise to the level of being a "threat"... if it is a threat then every politician is guilty of it as well, they all have the unwritten rule, "If you don't write nice things about me, I won't let you come to my functions." and that's really all Urban did....


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Ya...."threat" to most sounds like physical harm. He didn't do that. He only "threatened" his ability to perform his job.

If anything, Meyer needs to sit down with the WR and tell him to shut his mouth (even if what he meant to say was right). Though I'm sure he already did that.


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The video seems awfully cherry picked to me. Isn't it rather convenient that the Orlando Sentinel doesn't include the video several seconds prior to when they do?


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Reporters are allowed onto the practice field, onto the sidelines, into the lockerroom, etc by approval of the team.. Urban Meyer didn't threaten his job and tell him he can't be a sports reporter any more or that he can't cover the Gators any more, he just told him he couldn't be on the practice field any more, which I believe is well within his rights...




Understood...now if Joe Johnson gets on the bad side of Bill Jones and gets banned from the field is he really a good guy to have covering the team anymore? Urban can do whatever Urban wants on the Gator field however that doesn't make him right.

I wonder if Urban would feel the same way if someone treated his daughter the same way he treated the reporter...






Maybe Florida should just get banned from SEC and NCAA post season action.


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All I saw was a crusty coach breaking into the personal space of a reporter.

If I were the reporter, I don't care who you are, you aren't going to break my personal space and raise your voice like I'm one of your lil' biches. Meyer is wrong for that. But all he's doing is going to bat for one of his kids. That's what he's paid to do.

Yeah, Meyer needs to walk away before he has a nervous breakdown............


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The video seems awfully cherry picked to me. Isn't it rather convenient that the Orlando Sentinel doesn't include the video several seconds prior to when they do?




It wasn't video from the Sentinel, there are two videos out there so far but one beeps out part of Urban talking to the guy. You can also hear Urban tell the guy "Be very careful" at the end of the ""If that was my son, we'd be going at it right now.". (Link below has the comment).

As for the "nothing shows a few seconds before" angle...it has been reported that was the entire conversation. Florida did not allow the press access to players after practice that day, the press were standing around talking and Urban walked over and you have your video.

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Meyer, who has praised Thompson for being a good student, a hard worker and a player who has not gotten into any trouble, eventually got word of Thompson's distress and relayed his concern to school officials. The school responded by canceling post-practice interviews Wednesday.

But as reporters were hanging around following the session, Meyer walked over to the group and began the exchange with Fowler.



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Of course that's how they're reporting it... they're reporting that Urban was the nutcase and not that he was provoked by the reporter.

What I want is the video going back in time about 90 seconds or so. What was the demeanor and wording from the reporter that Meyer flipped on?

The video I saw (original link above, from the Orlando Sentinel) doesn't even include the speaking of the reporter prior to Meyer's response.
That sort of conversation does NOT just spontaneously occur - there WAS SOMETHING there before his response.



Reading your "Context" link - that sums it all up for me.
Without even needing to read the Sentinel article, I'm going to guess that the reporter took that quote from Thompson, then ran with the "you know, like a real quarterback" part and blew it out of proportion to unfairly paint a picture based upon those words.

Given that, I'd have to side with Meyer and agree that the reporter is "a bad guy".


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Of course that's how they're reporting it... they're reporting that Urban was the nutcase and not that he was provoked by the reporter.




Sorry but that is too "fake moon landing" out there. Let's see how your scenario makes sense:

The media reporting something inaccurate about the guy that just threatened to have them banned for reporting something accurately? I am sure Meyer and Florida made an announcement by noon about this misrepresentation? No?

Well, I guess if we can just say it probably happened it makes it ok...right?



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What I want is the video going back in time about 90 seconds or so. What was the demeanor and wording from the reporter that Meyer flipped on?




Looks like you only want the video if it fits what you guess must have happened. You surely do not want the video of the previous hour before...it's a lot easier to claim something happened without it.


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The video I saw (original link above, from the Orlando Sentinel) doesn't even include the speaking of the reporter prior to Meyer's response.
That sort of conversation does NOT just spontaneously occur - there WAS SOMETHING there before his response.




I don't know what happened but something did...that is a fact! Can't argue that philosophy I guess.


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Reading your "Context" link - that sums it all up for me.
Without even needing to read the Sentinel article, I'm going to guess that the reporter took that quote from Thompson, then ran with the "you know, like a real quarterback" part and blew it out of proportion to unfairly paint a picture based upon those words.




Hey, your just going to guess what happened...can't debate that. The writer's entire article is linked above...and I quoted his comment on the player. And will requote it now...

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“You never know with Tim,” Thompson said. “You can bolt, you think he’s running but he’ll come up and pass it to you. You just have to be ready at all times. With Brantley, everything’s with rhythm, time. You know what I mean, a real quarterback.”

Thompson’s comment was either intentional or he meant to say Brantley’s a more conventional style of quarterback.

I’ve received plenty of feedback Tuesday from Thompson supporters vouching for the guy. I’ve interviewed Thompson numerous times in the past and he never said anything inflammatory.

Either way, Thompson’s ready to be the top receiver for Florida.




OH MY GOD! Horrible reporter...such a mean guy!! How could he be so unfair?? He obviously has an axe to grind with this Thompson kid...AMIRITE GUYS?

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Given that, I'd have to side with Meyer and agree that the reporter is "a bad guy".




The reporter gave Thompson more credit than you and Meyer gave him...what's worse than a 'bad guy'?

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The media reporting something inaccurate about the guy that just threatened to have them banned for reporting something accurately? I am sure Meyer and Florida made an announcement by noon about this misrepresentation? No?

Well, I guess if we can just say it probably happened it makes it ok...right?




Not at all, it just struck me that a video of something that is supposed to be a big deal seems a little suspect when only part of a confrontation is shown. As in, it doesn't behoove the media outlet to show something if the reporter was antagonistic (which, it appears he did in his article, not on the field that day).



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Looks like you only want the video if it fits what you guess must have happened.




What? Are you sane? Don't be an ignorant jackass. The video looks cropped at the start, as in - it looks like the part preceding Meyer speaking was intentionally left off, thus a desire to see what is there prior to Meyer speaking. If there is nothing, good, so be it. If there was speaking from the reporter that sheds more light on things, then good, lets see it.



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The writer's entire article is linked above




Didn't know, didn't care. I still won't read it.


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Lex is part of the Entertainment Tonight crowd who see a partial clip and form an opinion based on what they are fed.


yep....I am sure Meyer walked out of the clubhouse, saw that guy and just started getting on him and told him he isn't welcomed.


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Lex is part of the Entertainment Tonight crowd who see a partial clip and form an opinion based on what they are fed.




Given the choice between that and the people that make things up and insist they exist, give me ET any day...at least I have some basis in what I say.

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The interview that started it all.
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yep....I am sure Meyer walked out of the clubhouse, saw that guy and just started getting on him and told him he isn't welcomed.




Sadly Peen it's the people with their fingers in their ears going "There is more to it" over and over again that aren't realistic.

The original article is there...was it incorrect? Was it unfair? Urban is all over the comment about Tebow but hasn't said a word about Azzanni's comment. Most people think the issue isn't about Thompson at all...but all the media comments about Meyer and Florida not doing enough to prepare Tebow for the NFL. Of course that is assumption, which while it is good enough for some people to use to outweigh reality I don't weight it more than what is seen and heard.

Oh yes...a partial clip? I've provided two videos, the original article and several media accounts. What has countered that from you and Prpl?? Speculation and conjecture. So don't be so condescending about it.

I am sure if the reporter in question instigated the situation there are clips from competing media sources with the REAL story...right? But all I am seeing from other news sources is 'no article talking about the incident' or the same AP story repeated. How high does this coverup go!!

Best I could find so far that wasn't from the reporter and wasn't the same AP article was from a UF fan:



Here is Fowler's comment on the period of time before the video...

"Players were not available after practice, but instead of coming to field questions about the workout, Meyer beelined toward me."

Has Urban banned the OS yet, surely if this is not true he will go nuclear...considering his reaction over a word for word quote. Did you see all the reporters in the video...I am sure one of them posted something to back up your '90 seconds before' claim.

Here's someone else's input:

Tim Tebow, speaking in West Palm Beach, defends comments by former teammate Deonte Thompson Jim Folsom's spot


Oh yes, I forgot...just to keep it light. Media changes around UF

Yes, that is in jest.

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O.k. so I'm not the only person on here with caveman thoughts . The absolute first thing that popped into my head was how bad that situation would have been had i been that reporter . Mr Meyer would be in the news for an altogether different reason . Maybe it's just me but when the coach turned and walked back toward the reporter I would have taken that as a challenge and it would not have gone uncontested . Everything about that confrontation bothered me .

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I didn't hear a threat.




I just saw the clip, and at the end he tells the reporter "You better be careful".

That's a threat.



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I just saw the clip, and at the end he tells the reporter "You better be careful".

That's a threat.




A threat? Okay - maybe. But a "I'm going to get you threat?" Hell no.

What he was saying - my take anyway - was "take it easy, or your butt is out of here."

And that's his right.

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It may be his right, but it's not right.

The reporter quoted exactly what the player said. I like Meyer, I really do, but he is WAY out of line here.

How about instead of going after the reporter that did nothing but quote EXACTLY what the player said, go to the player that said it, and talk to him about watching how he words things to the press.

Honestly, what was the reporter supposed to do? Write the article, quote the kid, then put "But I don't think that's what he meant".

Urban Meyer and the player need to hold a press conference, explain that the quote was taken out of context, and that should be the end of it.

It is NOT the reporters fault.



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Even though I personally think Urban Meyer is as big of a snake as Peter Carrol and Lane Kiffin. I see no "threat" but that's just me.

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Taken in the context of his statement Meyer said.

"If that was my son, we'd be going at it right now. Be very careful."

Which sounds like a threat of physical violence. Now that is open to interpretation, which is done by judges and not message board posters.

However this guy is just doing his job, and I believe Urban Meyer and Florida need the media more than the media needs Urban Meyer and Florida.

So far the most plausible (and it is speculation) theory I have heard ties into the sensitivity Meyer has regarding all the Tebow criticism. The statement that Florida did not prepare Tebow for the NFL can't help recruiting much and I think that is why Meyer flipped his wig. In the same article the Florida receivers coach made a harsher statement regarding Thompson that didn't get a peep from Urban.

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"If that was my son, we'd be going at it right now. Be very careful."





Here's my take. Urban Meyer is completely wrong in that quote. His players are supposed to be equal to his sons. That is the line coaches give parents at least during recruitment.

Urban Meyer doesn't care enough about his players to treat them like his own kids.


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