Please look at a couple of things here.
1. Heckert drafted Gocong in the third. The powers that be in Philly obviously don't feel the same way about Goceng as Heckert does/did.
2. Let's say Gocong ends up being a situational LB'er and ST. Are you saying a fifth round pick is overpaying for that? And what are the odds of a fifth round player making the roster in the NFL?
3. You know as well as I do that players fit and play better in different systems. I asked this of Hew with no response so now I'll ask it of you........Do you know wheather they plan to play Goceng inside or outside? Do you know if Goceng will be more productive in "our D scheme"?
4. You do know that Phil Savage is a player personnel consultant for the Philadelphia Eagles now didn't you? So I take Philly's "assesment" of players with a little more of a grain of salt now.
Now let's address Brown.
1. If Hayden doesn't fall to us at #7, what quality is there in the second or third round at CB? I mean now that the CB position requires far more money ( ie... as far back as the Henry signing with the Boys), once you have a run on CB's who would be left there for us?
2. You do understand that this is an uncapped year. So how does front loading his contract not help us? We both know he'll be replaced over the next two or three years so it leaves us with no dead weight or count against the cap to let him go at that point. You don't think that's smart?
3. And I believe you know that
there were NO FA's this year unless they were cut due to the bargaining agreement. As was mentioned, he gets the same money as he did on his old contract, which you claimed he would command a lot more. You were wrong there. Now that you were wrong there, you're back tracking to say even the same money is silly.
4. Can you give me an example of any NFL team getting a starting CB during this years market for less or at a more reasonable cost than we did for Brown?
5. Last year was statisticly one of Browns best years. So why do you continue to question the deal?
As far as the personal stuff? You have pretty much been raising hell over every move, or the vast majority of moves this FO has made. And in most cases, not all, you have went to great lengths to pound it into the ground.
Yet these same guys, both Holmgren and Heckert have pretty good track records at drafting and in Holmgrens case actually building franchises. That's no gauruntee and I understand you may be a little leary, but it's gotten blown out of context IMO
Not trying to be personal here, but from the perspective of reading your posts, it almost appears as an obsession or hatred on your part.
I'm not trying to say that every move they have made is something out of this world, but for a starting CB that we needed so desperately, in the current market we did not overpay. If you believe we did, please show me a better deal somewhere, anywhere during this off-season.
We gave average CB pay to an average to above average starting CB who played one of his best seasons last year. We front loaded it in an uncapped year which is financialy smart looking ahead for the future when the salary cap will be in effect.
Toad hit the nail on the head! Philly is "in the position with their talent" to cut players over 30 and replace them with younger, cheaper players they already have signed and developed. We do NOT have that luxury. We need "players" that can play now.
I'm not dismissing every point you have made. But we do need a core of veterans that "know something of this or a very similar system". If you look at it, since Gini has been here, we have gutted our salary. BE, KW2, Wimbley.
Considering our "need" at the CB position and front loading an "average price" for a starter, I think we addressed that need in a financialy responsible manner.
And I do know you "wanted another CB" besides Brown.

Don't know how much that plays into all of this but I think that may be a part of it.
jmho