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Actually the 3rd round is where you historically see those guys who played OT in college (but can't in the NFL because of feet) get drafted. Shawn has a chance to be a very good RG, but he's going to need a year or 2 because of technique.

I like this pick alot, and think he has a shot to be a starter in the near future.

these workout stats look good on paper.He is a strong dude and he will need to be strong. With a year or two of coaching maybe he will pan out hopefully not this generation's Isaac Sowells

an area of need was addressed.I won't be surprised if a back-up center is drafted today.

PS
the more I research this guy,the more I like him

He's gotta be a smart kid. He graduated in 2008 with a bachelor degree in education and is 6-9 credits away from his masters,.

The NFL classroom should be a breeze.

geez,
strong and intelligent

This guy was drafted to play guard.He may not be able tostart right away,but I'll bet he will be ready by this time next year.

I really liked Lauvao going in...for 1 of our 5ths though...but I guess late in the 3rd that's still better than picking some raw "projection" pick....I'm glad we avoided this

would have picked M.Johnson over him but Lauvao was more athletic and had a good offseason showing...he's an overachiever and I'm confident he can be decent RG someday but I doubt he will be much better than anything we go there he last years overall

That's my problem with our draft...we seem to always have RE-acted

in round 2 Allen is off the board, and we take the next best guy at S....later Tate gets picked, we move up to get the next best guy....Jerry gets taken by the Dolphins, we take the next best power-G prospect

I like thos 3 players, but we definately have reached for most of them and just seem to have missed the better prospect

j/c

The fact that he was rated in magazines as 10th or 12th best guard doesn't make him a bad selection. If he was playing at LT and these publications are projecting him to guard and rating him as such, that doesn't mean he can't be, at the very least, serviceable and with time, a potential starter.

My reading of him makes him sound like he just needs better technique/footwork and not being blessed with long arms he won't be able to handle NFL speed rushers at tackle.

Just a general reply:

first off the 305 weight is a falsehood. This is a big kid and his playing weight is probably 15 to 20lbs higher. He is a big strong kid that has a rep for being a mean nasty type of player.

He doesnt have the hips for LT. He can maybe one day work at RT but he is a guard. He played out of position and did surprisingly well despite not having the hips and feet to play in space.

If he had been guard only, he would have been one of those guards teams think well he is a great guard but maybe we can slide him out to tackle. Well he has already been worked out there u know he can be an emergency player but people seem to have forgotten how good he is when he plays his natural position.

Arizona state had so many injuries their line wasnt very good due to no chemistry and this kid has been undervalued. It is still a slight reach but not nearly as bad as Ward and Hardesty. I had Lauvao as early 4th so not much of a reach a in my opinion.

Scott Wrights opinion:



92 CLEVELAND BROWNS (f/NYJ): SHAWN LAUVAO, OG, ARIZONA STATE
Scouting Report

Athletic blocker who'll push Pork Chop Womack for the starting job at right guard.

It will suprise me if he does it in year 1, but next year I fully expect it.......maybe even at mid season. He's much more talented than Womack

next year we draft two guards.. gotta look for steiny's replacement soon...

and if Faneca gets cut.. You think he would want to come to Cleveland?

Faneca was released this morning. Ducasse is apparently the man.

Would love for us to sign Faneca, and put him at RG. That solidifies our OL, and puts us at a position of not having to rush SL into starting, and that's a real possiblility with a total BUM like FW at RG right now.

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just seem to have missed the better prospect

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Or just maybe its "YOUR" version of a better prospect.

You really think we reached JUST because someone picked a simulat player before us? Really?
MH said Hardesty was "OUR" guy we wanted all along. Not sure on the others but.....

Come on man!!!!!!

you know we are in agreement on Mike Johnson, but it's how the chips fall sometimes.

i haven't seen enough of Lauvao to have much of an opinion on him, but I definitely am glad we did not draft Petrus or Jerry. I think both of them are a bit soft in how they play and Petrus is especially sloppy in his technique.

hopefully, Lauvao gives us some depth on the OL for a few years, which is what a late 3rd round pick should do (if better, then great).

Only thing is "what is considered a reach?"

If you stick to your draft board and you take who (the the FO says TH set up) is the best in that slot....then "who" is to say that player is a reach?
Mayock?
Kiper?
The bozos on here who think they know whats best?

Who then?

You stick to your board (from what i have read we did) then you did not reach.

Mike said Hardesty was the guy we had targeted.....we took him.....NOT A REACH.

JMO

What are these worthless ratings you are throwing out here? Are they from a website or something?

Never the less, I think it's foolish to call someone a bad pick because of a rating from an online website. You should be old enough to know better than that.

You are a trip.

We have scouts who help set up the draft board according to coaching styles philosophies, interviews and yes talent.

They dont use your web site rating nor does any other team. They do their own scouting. I hate to shock you with that lil bit of info.

Southeast of Astabula.

No it's not...I moved it.

It's south of Saybrook and east of Harpersfield, by the Flying J.

j/k

I have heard this kid will know the playbook after two weeks, highly intellagent, excellent run blocker, needs to work on pass blocking not slow feet just placement / footwork. We need bigger guards with Ravens stocking up on big men in the middle, we need bigger guards, I myself like the pick, because we dont need him to start this year.

http://medinagazette.northcoastnow.com/2010/05/07/strongman-lauvao-flew-under-radar/

Strongman Lauvao flew under radar

By: Scott Petrak
May 7th, 2010 ·

Shawn Lauvao has never pulled a van, lifted a giant tire, flipped a log or done any of the other bizarre and entertaining events that make up the world’s strongest man competitions.

But the newest Browns offensive lineman, and 2005 Hawaii Strongest Teen, is open to the possibility.

“Maybe in the future,” he said over the weekend at Browns rookie minicamp. “It’s definitely a big hobby of mine. I enjoy lifting weights. I’m kind of strong.”

Lauvao was drafted in the third round at No. 92 overall. The pick came just seven selections after that of Texas quarterback Colt McCoy, so Lauvao has been largely an afterthought.

The afterthought has a much better chance of contributing this season.

Lauvao, who finished his Arizona State career with 33 straight starts, played left tackle as a senior, but at 6-foot-2, 315 pounds projects as an NFL guard. Veteran Floyd Womack is penciled in as the starter at right guard, but Lauvao could immediately push him for playing time.

“The biggest thing is I want to make the team and help the team any way possible,” said Lauvao, who grew up in Hawaii and whose parents live in Western Samoa. “Whatever the coaches see fit, I’m more than willing to do.”

If Lauvao gets on the field, his strength will be a significant factor. He can bench press 500 pounds, squat 700 and clean 350. He benched 225 pounds an impressive 33 times at the combine, and was disappointed he didn’t do more.

“Shawn came in strong, had a tremendous work ethic the entire time he was here and got much stronger,” Arizona State strength coach Ben Hilgart said. “What’s more impressive is that pound for pound he’s very good. He handles his body weight very well.”

Hilgart said Lauvao’s “relative strength” was obvious when the linemen did chin-ups. While plenty of 300-pounders struggle to do one, Lauvao ups the ante and doesn’t disappoint.

“We’ve got chains we use that weigh about 20 pounds apiece,” Hilgart said. “He’ll drape three of those around his back, kinda Mad Max style. It turns him into 375 pounds, 60 of which is dead weight, and he’ll bang out 10 chin-ups.”

If strength were enough to make a good NFL player, the behemoths from the strong man competition —Magnus and Andrus — would be raking in millions on Sundays. But that strength must be converted to operational power.

“There’s a lot of guys who can lift a lot of wait, who are strong, but not very athletic,” Lauvao said. “The biggest thing is playing with better leverage, better knee bend, dropping your hips more, having better reaction, as opposed to trying to run and smash people. You’ve got to do it in a more controlled manner.”

Hilgart’s seen Lauvao do that on the field, and he also saw it at the combine when Lauvao posted the best time of any offensive lineman in the short shuttle drill.

“It’s a great indicator of how a guy can change direction, burst off the line and drop his hips,” Hilgart said. “It shows versatility. He’s an athletic and strong kid. He’s not just a big, slow, strong kid.

“I’ve seen it in games and practices. When he gets hold of you, it’s lights out. I’ve seen him lock ’em out with one arm and just stone that person. That’s an application of where strength is translating to the football field.”

Lauvao earned his bachelor’s degree in interdisciplinary studies, specializing in education and sociology. He said he’s six to nine units from getting his master’s and would like to use the degrees to go into coaching.

The Browns targeted character and toughness in the draft, and Lauvao appears to bring both. As a senior, he was voted captain by his teammates and won the Hard Hat award, given to the MVP of strength training.

“It’s not about the strongest person, it’s who’s working the hardest, doing the little things right and motivating people in the weight room,” Hilgart said. “He just happened to also be our strongest guy.

“He’s a great football player, a hard worker and a great person. All that stuff’s legit. All that stuff’s authentic.”

The coaching staff worked Lauvao at both guard spots during rookie minicamp, and he said they want him to master guard before expanding his repertoire.

“He’s tough, he’s physical,” coach Eric Mangini said. “One of the things that you like about watching offensive linemen or something that always jumps off the screen to me is guys that clean the pocket. Which means when they are not blocking somebody, they go and help somebody else out and it’s usually one of those hits that defensive linemen remember.

“There were quite a few of those with him. You appreciate that.”

Lauvao had a simple explanation for what Mangini spotted on film.

“I like to knock heads,” he said. “If I don’t have anything to do, I’m going to go see if I can smash somebody else.”

Did you know that Shawn Lauvao is only the 2nd OG Drafted by the Browns in the "modern era" with a top 100 selection.
The other being Ed King 2nd round 1991.

Imo......we were long over due and history will support my feelings on the subject.
The best OL's over the years were with teams who did not forget to draft OG's as well as C and OT.

One thig I noticed in MH's draft history, is a tendancy to address the trenches in most every draft. He understands that the game is won and lost in the trenches.

Our seconday has been a very weak link in the chain so the draft this year addressed that unit more than anything. But under H&H I think we'll see both trenches addressed much more than with former regimes since our return.

Something I'll be very happy to see with some regularity. We have guys who "get it" now running things and as such, I feel we will see it expounded in future drafts.

And ya gotta love that IMO

I have always been one to think you build a OL from the middle out.


The shortest distance to a QB is straight up the middle. Put a solid starting 3 in front of the QB and he is going to be able to do something.

the more I hear about this player the more I like the pick.

Strong, smart, agile

Mangini, Heckert, and Holmgren, all of our top 3 brass have a consistent history of adressing the lines in nearly each and every draft for each and every team they have been a part of.

with the beatings you take in the trenches, you never stop drafting OL.

just look at Pitt...they had a solid OL just a couple years ago, but age and injuries have weakened it while they have been busy drafting WRs and RBs in the top rounds lately (until this year)