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Absolutely love this pick!

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you had a good run Hank.
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Well I have to give this entire draft a nice big fat captial A.

Would have liked to go in a few other directions but over all I am loving this draft.

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From National Football Post:

Mitchell is a big, long-armed wideout with a supreme athletic skill set for his size. He showcases an impressive initial burst off the ball with the straight-line speed to consistently run by corners and stretch the field vertically. He's a powerful route runner who's tough to knock off balance and bring down after the catch. But he isn't the most natural receiver and is still learning how to break down and cleanly get out of his breaks. He has a tendency to round off his routes when changing directions and struggles to gather himself in jump-ball situations. Mitchell isn't a natural plucker and will struggle to adjust and come up with the grab. Still, he possesses an immense upside and looks like he could develop into a legit No. 1 wideout at the next level.

Scouting report provided by National Football Post.

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Absolutely love this pick!




happy it's a WR - need to learn more about him


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ME TOO!!!!!!!

I wanted him in the 5th,

Awesome. Again it addresses a need. He has the ability to make this team.


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I like it! He doesn't have very good hands, but he has awesome potential.

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Ok, I'm glad they got a wideout... But why not dez briscoe?

I hope selvie is next. Or Calloway.


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The so called geniuses had him at #1 on their board (at least McShay did)
and Mel had high praise on the pick.

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Agreed Deep. I would be surprised if he dosent see alot of PT this year.


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I like it! He doesn't have very good hands, but he has awesome potential.




I've heard his misses are few and far between!

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Definitely a project, but as one of the few Big East football fans on the planet, I have watched him beast as a serious deep threat. If he develops, he could be a real steal.

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He's actually faster and bigger than Leon and doesn't have the inferiority complex...I'm sorry, cockiness of Leon.

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Overview

A physical receiver in the mold of Denver's Brandon Marshall, Mitchell became the Big East Conference's premier deep threat as a junior, despite missing several games with an ankle sprain. He played in just 37 games for the Bulls, but he set both the school career (1,648) and season (706 in 2009) records for receiving yardage.

"Carlton can flat fly," USF wide receivers coach Phil McGeoghan stated recently. "He has all the tools, all the ability. He is very diligent in his route running and his assignments. He is getting better, I see him improving everyday. He comes out here, works early and stays late. Carlton Mitchell is just a very talented guy who is big, tall, athletic, and has all the gifts you want in a receiver."

What surprised many within the Bulls organization was Mitchell's decision to forgo his senior season to enter the 2010 NFL Draft. With his injury issues and playing in a run-oriented offense at USF, the talented split end has never caught more than 40 passes in any season, or scored more than four touchdowns in a campaign. He reached his decision before USF had fired coach Jim Leavitt, so the two transactions aren't directly related.

No one can question his athletic bloodlines. Mitchell also performed on the USF track team, competing in the 400 meters and the long jump during the 2007-08 outdoor campaign. His father, Carl Mitchell played professional basketball in Europe. Even his mother, Angela, has long ties to the sports industry. She presently serves as the "cut man" for professional boxer, Antonio Tarver.

Mitchell lettered three times in football and basketball at Gaither High School. He garnered All-County honorable mention from the Tampa Tribune and was a member of the Class 5A All-District V team during his senior season with the Cowboys. He was rated the 19th-best player in Tampa Bay area by the St. Petersburg Times.

The senior was ranked 64th-best player in the state of Florida by Rivals.com, placing 55th among the nation's receivers. Scout.com ranked him as Florida's 87th-best prospect, even though he played in a ball controlled offense that limited him to nine catches for 207 yards as a junior.

Mitchell spent the 2006 season at the University of South Florida performing on the scout team. Even though he started just five games in 2007, he set the school freshmen season-records with 37 receptions (led the team) for 537 yards (rank fifth on the USF annual record list), as his four touchdowns were one shy of another freshman mark. He was the only player on the team to gain over 100 yards receiving in a game in 2007, accomplishing that feat twice.

Mitchell had a "sophomore slump" that relegated him to just three starting assignments in 2008. He placed fourth on the team with 28 catches, gaining 405 yards (14.46-yard average) with one touchdown. He added a pair of solo tackles and produced at least one reception in 10 games, including his final seven.

Mitchell received All-Big East Conference third-team honors in 2009. He led the team with 40 receptions for a school season-record 706 yards (17.65-yard average), that included four touch-downs. He suffered a left high ankle sprain vs. West Virginia that forced him to miss the Rutgers and Louisville contests, seeing limited action vs. Miami upon his return.
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Release: Gets to top speed much faster than expected for his height, eating up cushion and blowing by corners without great speed. Can hesitate to lull defender to sleep, then accelerate to get separation. Is not pressed much because of his size and speed, but seems comfortable giving a shake and using his hands to free himself from the jam.

Hands: Inconsistent hands and traps the ball against his chest more often than not on short to intermediate throws. Tracks balls over his shoulder, able to secure the catch when stretched out on deep balls or throws to the sideline. Excellent red-zone threat. Better adjusting to high throws than low ones, but can get down to make the grab if given room to do so. Loses concentration on easier passes at times.

Route running: Will round off routes at times, but sinks his hips coming in and out of routes pretty well for a 6-4 receiver. Stop and comeback routes are sudden, a dangerous combination with his potential as a deep threat. Uses a head fake to sell routes. Willing to find holes in zones over the middle.

After the catch: Not many tall receivers are used on quick screens, but his surprising quickness and length allows him to succeed. Turns on the jets after the catch, with his long strides making it difficult for defenders to catch him. Can be elusive on screens but fails to avoid defenders when on a dead run. Height makes him a target to be chopped down in the open field by better corners.

Blocking: Has the desire and length to take defenders out of the play when he knows the run is coming, but a failure to break down and mirror his man allows them to avoid his grasp. Runs hard and extends his arms to keep safeties at bay while blocking for fellow receivers downfield. Resorts to ineffective cut blocks at times despite have the size advantage on the edge.

Intangibles: Tough player who bounces up after the big hit. Confident, well-liked in the locker room who has worked hard to be more than a track star playing football.




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MH said he wanted a guy that could stretch the defense......

He got him!!!!!!


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He is what you typically find in the 6th round at WR ...... a project with great measurables ..... and some flaws.

The hardest adjustments for a college WR to make .... according to some NFL talking head I saw yesterday or the day before, are route running and the fact that they are rarely open by 10 yards. In college, the guy who runs poor routes and catches with his bodty can often get away with it because the defender isn't immediately on top of him. That's not the case in the NFL.

Sounds about right to me. Hopefully he can develop and not be Phil Hubbard Part Deux.


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Love the pick...........good value in round 6, and that is what we should be looking for here.

Very good 3rd day of the draft so far.


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Mitchell brings a rare combination of size and speed to this draft. He could definitely use another year in college but will be attractive to teams that are looking for a vertical passing attack thanks to his downfield speed and size. He shows a good burst coming out of his speed cuts but will chop down too much and waste steps on hard cuts for underneath routes. He has huge hands and can catch the ball in one hand at times but will try to catch too many passes in his body when he can. He is willing to go across the middle and catch the ball in traffic and is a physical blocker on the perimeter.


I hate reading the part in bold. Reminds me too much of QM


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Thats always a worry with late WR. His ceiling is Brandon Marshall type which is at this point more than Hubbard would have ever thought of.

His stock fell for reasons but the potential is of early round types.

Thats what you look for late in the draft.

Him and Hardesty could be nice surprises.


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I like it! He doesn't have very good hands, but he has awesome potential.





Don't know a thing about the kid,, but on ESPN they were saying that he rarely drops the ball.... Dont' know where you get your info.. don't know who's right,, you or them...


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looks like NFLdraftscout.com had him ranked 8th overall for WRs and expected him gone in the 2 or 3 round...


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At the worst he is a 6th round Braylon.

That aint too bad.


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Love the pick, was just texting a friend an hour ago about landing him before we did..... great pick up in the 6th here. Great value for this guy's upside.


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Dude can flat out fly. Dude looks like a hell of an athlete, he coming out now out of his junior year looks like he might have a high ceiling... I hope I'm right.

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I got my info by watching him. He is a bodychatcher.

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Wonder where ESPN and a few other places got thier info.. I mean, he either catches with his body or he doesn't..

Not questioning you,, just wondering how people could see something like that differently..


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Its more like certain passes and what i am saying is it depends on where the ball comes into you at.

I was a receiver that was always considered to have great hands yet i caught balls that was thrown right at me with my chest more so. A real no no for a TE.
For a NFL WR you must catch every throw awat from your body because of the corners ability to slap away the ball before it gets into your body.

Ita not that he catches all into his body its just more like ceratin passes such as over the sholder throws or like Braylon who jumps to catch it against his body when he needs not too.

Yet it is very correctable if he has VERY GOOD hands anyway.

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thanks,,,, I get it now..


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Good grief, after 5 seconds of that god awful rap I was looking for a length of rope and some rafters!

Looks promising!!!

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LOL I had to turn the sound down,, couldn't take the music...

Kid has some skills,, looks freaky fast.. and certainly has the size.. hope he pans out....


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lol, sorry I meant to put a music disclaimer on there!


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I like it! He doesn't have very good hands, but he has awesome potential.




Practice Squad Fodder...As MOST 6th and 7th boys r...

Doesn't have very good hands???...LMAO...U guys r humoring me...Deep...HOW can u possibly connect those 2 thoughts together???...BAD HANDS???...AWESOME PO???...I'm not pickin' on u chief...I'm really not...I admire your desire to do this...But u need to LEARN ALOT...

I'm with u on what you're trying to do man...I really am...But comments like this are making me think u r reading bad sites and talking to the WRONG folks...

Clue #1...And this is a FACT JACK...

Wide Receivers that come to the NFL game with a penchant of BAD HANDS WILL NEVER CHANGE...They will KILL u on third and 7 with a DROP...CONSTANTLY...They'll be WIDE OPEN down the sidelines with a PERFECT PASS and they will DROP IT...

Put this is your rep...If the dude can't catch...He has NO POTENTIAL...Mark my words...U will be 90% successful breaking down WR's if u go with the guys that have SOFT HANDS...Screw SPEED and Route running...If u can't catch a ball that u can TOUCH consistently...U ain't squat...


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Braylon Edwards did fine in 2007 despite dropping plenty of balls.

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Braylon Edwards did fine in 2007 despite dropping plenty of balls.




Deep...If you're gonna play this game of scouting...U better come up with better "One-Liners" than that man...

Edwards was a #3 pick in the NFL...He's EXPECTED TO BE A STUD...And where is he now???

We're talking about a 6th rounder...


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DiD, it's not that he cannot catch, it's that he sometimes has problems with body catching.

Carlton Mitchell has very good hands, he just is not natural RIGHT NOW. However, with some coaching, he can very easily become a #1 WR in the NFL. This guy is going to be very good, very quickly. He's going to be our Colston.


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You really aren't making sense DnD. You say that if a player has bad hands, they can't have good potential. First and foremost, there are tons of examples that are in direct contradiction to that. I don't care where Braylon was drafted. He had problems with drops, yet he still produced. I think everyone on here would be ecstatic if Mitchell ended up like Braylon, and that is possible.

And like was said, his main problem is that he is a body catcher. It's not necessarily that his hands are bad; he just doesn't use them.

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How do you know for certain whether or not he is practice squad fodder? Just asking.....Of course the odds are against him because he was picked late in the draft, but that doesn't mean anything at all, just look at colsten.


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lol, sorry I meant to put a music disclaimer on there!





should have put a profanity disclaimer on it too...


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Agreed..Heckert said the WR group wasn' that good..and it really wasn't but there were some late round prospects and they found one..

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