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The thing about Dwight Howard is, its ok if he gets 20+ against you as long as he's getting it on 15-20 attempts. Last year he had 1503 points on 834 field goal attempts, or an average of 1.8 pts/att. The Magic averaged 78 field goal attempts per game. I'd rather see Dwight's percentage of the Magic's total attempts be higher, because that means he's not kicking it out for threes. The caveat is that you have to foul him, and they have to be hard fouls to avoid and-1 situations. More touches for Dwight down low means fewer touches on the perimeter as well as more offensive fouls called on Dwight. I'm ok with that. I kept saying last year in the ECF that the Cavs needed to let Dwight get his and defend the perimeter, because all it takes is one guy collapsing on the double team and Dwight will kick it out and they'll pass it around the horn until they find the open jumper. And they will knock them down.
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what if shaq was interested in going to atl?
they need size, as they constantly get beat up down low.
joe johnson obviously wants out, he actually credited the cavs while ripping his own team earlier in the year...
you could do maybe a sign and trade, shaq gets his money, maybe only for 1-2 years, leaving atl flexibility.
Joe Johnson is Atlantas version of Mo Williams when it comes to the playoffs.
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that's true and why I included the number of attempts by most of those.
the problem with going through a few names (some I didn't include in my post) was that there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to when he has a good or bad game.
guys who you think can defend him can sometimes, and other times he just blows up on them. guys who you think couldn't defend him give up more rebounds it seems, but his points go up and down.
the scary thing about all that means that basically, the only thing holding Dwight back is probably Dwight. if he gets his focus/technique better, he will likely be near unstoppable.
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I have a question .......because I know little about how the NBA salary stuff works ......
Could LeBron sign a veteran's minimum contract for 1 year with the Cavaliers, allowing them to also sign a guy like Bosh to a max deal .... and then max him (LeBron) out next year?
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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Not without the Union whacking out.
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Not only this, but I looked at the Cavs salaries the other day and even if Lebron played for free, they wouldn't be far enough under the cap to sign a max free agent.
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That's what they keep saying on the radio,...why do these FA all have to sign for the MAX,...they could all get together with the Clippers and play for nothing and win a Title,...IF that's what it really is all about.
They all have too big an ego to admit they need each other. This is why salaries are high and overpriced. They are used as a measure of ego(s).
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that's true and why I included the number of attempts by most of those.
the problem with going through a few names (some I didn't include in my post) was that there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to when he has a good or bad game.
guys who you think can defend him can sometimes, and other times he just blows up on them. guys who you think couldn't defend him give up more rebounds it seems, but his points go up and down.
the scary thing about all that means that basically, the only thing holding Dwight back is probably Dwight. if he gets his focus/technique better, he will likely be near unstoppable.
it will depend on when the criticism really comes, i think it started a bit this year, because they should have done much better against boston. maybe boston was the better team but to dig your team into an 0-3 hole? unacceptable. at least the cavs, who's best player was hurt and their coach stubborn had a 2-1 advantage, but to start out 0-3 with all the rest in the world going in, when people start criticizing him for his lack of fundamentals, he'll get better. it seems that he's happy just being a physical freak and getting by on that.
with lebron the criticism has started. every year we got bounced it was about everyone else, after this year, it's starting on him (people are banging his cast, but that's to get him out of cleveland, because they are nowhere near as bad as bspn and other outlets make them to be) now people are questioning his game, bringing up kobe, valid arguments. and i think if lbj handles it correctly, the way jordan handled the criticism of his defense in his career, he can turn it around.
lbj will never win another mvp, unless his stats are more ridiculous and his team wins 65+,someone else will get the benefit of the doubt, until he wins a title.
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They all have too big an ego to admit they need each other. This is why salaries are high and overpriced. They are used as a measure of ego(s).
I disagree. I don't think the 'stars' salaries are overpriced. There are a very select few players as good as LeBron and Wade in the world. They generate a ton of $$$, so they should be paid accordingly.
I think the players that can easily be replaced are paid too much $$$, but the union tries to even things out in the salary structure to some extent to keep the majority happy, which can be good on some counts.
Anyway, they won't all take the minimum and play for one team because those championships would have an asterix next to them. LeBron couldn't win a championship without cheating by circumventing the cap and getting a bunch of stars in one place. And, imagine an injury and a couple bad calls derails their run? They would be ridiculed beyond belief.
Plus, as mentioned above, the palyers union would have a fit because it would completely undercut them in negotations for a new CBA (if LeBron and Wade are willing to play for the minimum, then why can't the rest of the players do it too?).
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I found something interesting on CP3's contract if he's traded:
http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/resources/09-10salaries.htm
Cavs send:
JJ Hickson 1.5 mil
Delonte West 4.5 mil (expiring)
S&T Wally Z 10 mil (Expiring)
2 future 1sts
NO Sends:
CP3 6.8 mil if used in trade
Okafer 10 mil ish
They get a budding young PF and a good combo guard with an expiring contract as well as another big expiring contract in Wally Z plus 2 future 1sts. I'm pretty sure Wally's 10 mil and Predrags 15 mil in expiring contracts could go a long way in helping them pull off a trade for some great talent considering that's 25 million in savings for a team.
Here's what the Cavs roster would then look like:
PG-CP3/Telfair
SG-Parker/Mo
SF-LeBron/Moon
PF-Jamison/Powe
C-Okafer/Varajao
Okafer wouldn't be a bad C for us as he'd play defense and be a consistent 10/10 which isn't bad considering we'd have CP3 and LeBron making people pay.
finally had a chance to play out the numbers if Dallas really wanted to trump any financial offer out there for CP3.
Recap: Paul because he is currently a BYC player meaning only half his salary counts in a trade. But, on July 1st, that changes and the full $13.5mil counts. Dampier has a $13mil non-guaranteed contract.
Dallas gets CP3, Okafor, Posey (just under $26mil counts towards trade)
NO gets Dampier, Stevensen's expiring $4mil, Roddy-B, Barea, 2010/2012 1st rounders
NO ships out ~=$32mil in contracts all of which are multiple years too.
NO gets back ~=$7mil in contracts and they might be able to buyout Stevensen further with only Roddy-B and 2 1st round picks beyond next year at worst.
Wow. That is how you save $$$ and get future financial flexibility.
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I hate to say it but Kobe may be better than LeBron. His mentality is just absolutely unparallel. He's on MJ level.
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Kobe will ALWAYS be better than LeBron until James gets "One." How many does Kobe have ? Five ?
This is isn't even a discussion, let alone an argument.
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I hate to say it but Kobe may be better than LeBron. His mentality is just absolutely unparallel. He's on MJ level.
Well to be fair, he is 6 years older and has played in 7 more playoff seasons. He's had the kind of experience that would give him that killer mentality. 
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Kobe will ALWAYS be better than LeBron until James gets "One." How many does Kobe have ? Five ?
This is isn't even a discussion, let alone an argument.
Robert Horry has seven, does that mean he's in the argument? I don't get why people thing "rings" are the be-all-end-all for "who's better" discussions.
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I hate to say it but Kobe may be better than LeBron. His mentality is just absolutely unparallel. He's on MJ level.
Well to be fair, he is 6 years older and has played in 7 more playoff seasons. He's had the kind of experience that would give him that killer mentality.
That's why I'm saying Kobe is better than LeBron right now. He's just kills it when his team needs him in the clutch.
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i'd like to calmly remind everyone that Kobe invited LeBron and Wade into the discussion for best player in the NBA in the first place.
it was during the time while he was whining about his team, quitting on them in the playoffs, and pouting like a petulant brat that the national media and fans turned from 'Kobe is the best in the NBA' to 'well, maybe it's LeBron or Wade'
magically, Kobe gained back that killer instinct once the Lakers landed Gasol(and later Artest) and were re-gifted Derek Fisher as well from a rival (don't blame Fisher at all because he was doing it for his daughter, but still a huge break for the Lakers)
just saying
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lebron has more talent, but kobe is the better basketball player.
if lbj had that mid-range game that kobe has, there wouldn't be anybody close to him, but that takes several offseasons to develop. wade has a great mid range game too.
honestly, i'd love to see lbj get that, but i think his low post game is where he should go first, then as he gets older and his body gets older, go for the mid range game.
and lolz at kg missing that layup. the celtics are not winning this series. absolutely not.
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It's kind of scary to think how good Kobe would have been with LeBron's athleticism.  Also LA fans suck I don't get the vibe of an NBA finals in there arena.
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definitely. i also agree that people are riding the kobe bandwagon, but how soon we forget when he pulled a similiar stunt that lebron did with that game 7 in phoenix where he just mailed it in.
and also, kobe is much more experienced. and as i was a mike brown guy, kobe has phil.
and the more you watch the finals, the more you ask yourself, if it's about championships with lebron, are the cavs, bulls, knicks, nets, and heat really championship caliber?
any of those situations lbj goes to, the lakers are still better. the celtics, as they are are still better although who knows how much time that team has left. and i think you can argue the magic are still probably a tad bit better.
where does that leave that situation?
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You also have to look at the talent on our team as well. We have a 34 year old Jamison who got punked vs KG. No center for next year. AP who was abused by Rondo. Then we have the legendary Mo Williams.... Well you all know how I feel about him. We'll have a new coach instead of potato head so that's a positive
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Kobe will ALWAYS be better than LeBron until James gets "One." How many does Kobe have ? Five ?
This is isn't even a discussion, let alone an argument.
Robert Horry has seven, does that mean he's in the argument? I don't get why people thing "rings" are the be-all-end-all for "who's better" discussions.
Good point on Horry,...OK,...but what else counts,....? Is Jordan the best ever with "no" rings. Doubtful.
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You also have to look at the talent on our team as well. We have a 34 year old Jamison who got punked vs KG. No center for next year. AP who was abused by Rondo. Then we have the legendary Mo Williams.... Well you all know how I feel about him. We'll have a new coach instead of potato head so that's a positive
jamison should have never been on kg. i don't know who you could have assigned him to, but i don't think it was fair to the guy to keep making him check kg. although how much worse would it be if he was guarding gasol? yikes.
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Good point on Horry,...OK,...but what else counts,....? Is Jordan the best ever with "no" rings. Doubtful.
it all gets factored in.
with Horry, how many championship teams was he a top2 option? maybe 2 (Houston) and that is a stretch especially the 2nd championship when they had Drexler
with SA and LA he was a 4th/5th option bit player, which is why he isn't in the discussion.
also, we can't just ignore the regular season. you can't dog it for 82 games and turn it on in the playoffs and be considered the greatest. you have to look at MVPs, PER, All-NBA-Defense, et cetera.
and that's why this is so fun because there is no real right or wrong answer. i have a tough time thinking that Magic isn't the greatest player of all time who just happened to have his career cut short by illness. others can say MJ, Kobe, or Wilt and make valid arguments. Someday, LeBron might be in the discussion.
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I loved Magic too,...but just got reminded by a radio braodcast within the last hour,...he came into LA with Norm Nixon, Jabbar, Wilkes, Rambis, Worthy (maybe later). That's an All-Time Team right there,....
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I loved Magic too,...but just got reminded by a radio braodcast within the last hour,...he came into LA with Norm Nixon, Jabbar, Wilkes, Rambis, Worthy (maybe later). That's an All-Time Team right there,....
yes, the Lakers and Celtics were absolutely loaded in the mid-80's. HOFers everywhere you looked (though in some cases they were HOFers because they were Lakers or Celtics)
but, the Bulls were loaded when MJ went on his championship runs, the Lakers loaded every year that Kobe has won, the Spurs when Duncan won.
so, it's a hard thing to really quantify between them (you also have to look at what stage each person's career was at). just watching them, I preferred Magic to MJ as overall best player I have seen. and I hate the Lakers (though I hate the Bulls as well).
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