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So, I was thinking about this summer compared to last season. And losing in this years playoff is almost LeBrons fault. Had he committed to staying in Cleveland long term we could have gotten Ron Artest, or at least Trevor Ariza. And they could have guarded Rondo instead of watching Mo Williams/AP watch him blow past them.
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pretty much. ariza would have been a nice player to pair with lbj. good defender. pretty decent shooter. played a good role in that championship run.
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So, I was thinking about this summer compared to last season. And losing in this years playoff is almost LeBrons fault. Had he committed to staying in Cleveland long term we could have gotten Ron Artest, or at least Trevor Ariza. And they could have guarded Rondo instead of watching Mo Williams/AP watch him blow past them.
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And no coach will commit here until he decides too. The Cavs are a franchise in waiting. They can't really do much outside of trading for a big piece to set the other two things in motion (coach and Lebron). If they can't swing a big trade, the franchise is dead. Ha...no pressure Mr. new GM.
As some of you have given up on the Indians....I'm really close to giving up on the Cavs forever. We could be weeks away from the death of Cleveland basketball. Seriously. OR....weeks away from a Lebron/Bosh team coached by Byron Scott. Crazy!
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So, I was thinking about this summer compared to last season. And losing in this years playoff is almost LeBrons fault. Had he committed to staying in Cleveland long term we could have gotten Ron Artest, or at least Trevor Ariza. And they could have guarded Rondo instead of watching Mo Williams/AP watch him blow past them.
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And no coach will commit here until he decides too. The Cavs are a franchise in waiting. They can't really do much outside of trading for a big piece to set the other two things in motion (coach and Lebron). If they can't swing a big trade, the franchise is dead. Ha...no pressure Mr. new GM.
As some of you have given up on the Indians....I'm really close to giving up on the Cavs forever. We could be weeks away from the death of Cleveland basketball. Seriously. OR....weeks away from a Lebron/Bosh team coached by Byron Scott. Crazy!
or weeks away from the phoenix coyotes or atlanta thrashers coming to C town!
nah. something tells me i think we have a good chance at keeping lbj. this franchise can't do a damn thing because of the situation, and i have this feeling that lbj wouldn't put us in this spot unless he thought he was giving cleveland a great chance to retain him.
but yeah, if we land bosh, the mystery is over, and espn will crap themselves. they might just implode. spike lee might commit suicide.
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I agree Punch....the fortunes of this team can swing 180 degrees in a instant....though I don't think the GM will have any real part in that...at least a bad part....that all rests on James.
The guy has created a major pickle for the Cavs...it's almost as if he is waiting to see what the team does but his actions make it impossible for us to do anything more than we already have.
We can't hire a top coach until his intentions are clear, we can't sign a top player until his intentions are clear.....heck, we can't even sign mid level players until his intentions are clear because we might need to use the money spent on them to go after top players if James leaves.
Mr James isn't doing us any favors.
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Any word on us buying a pick for tonights draft??
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I cant wait for Spike, Steve Smiff, Jalen Rose, etc.. to all look like a bunch of fools. Their points for going there such as marketing (LMAO) are such BS. Every ESPN article/story always fail to mention the $30 million MORE he makes by staying in Cleveland. Its not even reporting anymore, its sensationalism. The Skip Bayless effect I like to call it.
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windy is reporting teams are asking for more than just $ for picks, so possibly a late, last minute deal.
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and i have this feeling that lbj wouldn't put us in this spot unless he thought he was giving cleveland a great chance to retain him.
That is a good point.....I hope you are right.
Not speaking as a Clevelander....if he does leave, his PR is going to have to take a big hit....lot's of people are going to realize how badly he jerked this team and city around.
Though I will say I am not as optimistic as you. I don't know what you consider a good chance, but I would say it is no better than 50/50.
If he does stay, it's a shame the guy is so stupid as to not understand how he has handicapped the team at this juncture.
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I've been saying for the past two seasons he stays and signs another 3 yr deal, which is what Windhorst has also been reporting for the last 2 seasons. I still think that is what happens.
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I'm wondering how the CBA goes. Can you trade a players rights, and match up contracts or does a FA have to sign a contract before you can trade him? I was thinking the Bosh trade could be huge, as if you can get his rights, then technically he would still be a free agent. You could convince Bosh to go with the deal, as if Lebron decides to go elsewhere, he wouldn't be tied down to Cleveland. And if Lebron stays, he would get the same larger contract that Lebron could get through Bird rights.
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no, he's gotta sign. meaning he's gotta want to come to cleveland, although on mike and mike this morning bosh didn't seem opposed to it when chris broussard asked...
what are my odds on lebron staying? better than 50/50, maybe 60/40.
i think he knows what this organization has done for him, they have bent over backwards. the practice facility, the money spent towards the payroll, going over the luxury tax...
brian windhorst reported last week that despite what some had thought, lebron and the cavs have been in contact through this last month, even face to face. so something tells me there may be something brewing behind closed doors.
but wow it would be so much better if lbj were recruiting some of these free agents who can sign and trade. i think we stand less than a 50/50 shot if lbj is just sitting back and seeing what these teams, including the cavs are doing.
but remember, he did try and recruit artest and ariza, as it was mentioned a few posts earlier. but if bosh comes here, it'll be on a 6 year deal most likely (wouldn it? he'd want that max money right?) maybe that would be the best case scenario to get lbj long term, i think 3 years will do nothing for the cavs but keep them relevant for 3 yrs)
i just can't see this guy leaving like this, after the game 5 debacle (would be his last home game) as well as this month of not saying anything. and to hook the fans by saying cleveland has the edge on larry king?
the guy would be the biggest non-owner jerk in cleveland sports history. don't think he wants to go out like that, in his hometown.
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With Cleveland sports history I'm starting to just assume the worst that LeBron is not coming back 
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Oh Boo Hoo, get over it already. Cleveland sports history, what a joke of an excuse/rationale that is. Might as well say Bill cowher's house in strongsville told you he is leaving.
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what a joke of an excuse/rationale that is
How is it a joke? We are the one of the most unlucky sports cities on the planet.
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How about you get over yourself.
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How is it a joke? We are the one of the most unlucky sports cities on the planet.
Yeah, we've all heard it before. The Cubs are saying the same thing. Bruins fans are saying it. Every city but one has an excuse every year, and I am tired of hearing it. "Unlucky" is not an excuse or a rationale reason as to why LBJ may or may not leave town.
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HEY! Look I can bring up tired old internet humor as old as Couch v Homcolmb to try and discredit you too!
-Brace yourself folks! I bet he comes back with another FAIL arguement point!
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HEY! Look I can bring up tired old internet humor as old as Couch v Homcolmb to try and discredit you too!
It's okay since I know you can't think of anything yourself to say back at me. I understand having anything that resembles an intelligent thought is difficult for you. Maybe I can give you some lessons if you're lucky.
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^ Did I nail that prediction or what?
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What exactly was I arguing about? That you can't think of anything intelligent to say back? There's no argument there, so sorry try again.
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why does OKC always get these trades (kurt thomas, etc)
There roster has mostly young guys who have cheap rookie contracts. Therefore making them the most "desirable" trade partner due to them having the most cap space to dump bad contracts on.
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daquan cook is hardly a bad contract. 1 year at $2.2mil for a guy who can shoot and defend. not a starter, but at that salary, doesn't need to be.
and the #18 pick as well?
dang. miami clears $3.5mil in cap space...they only have Beasely and Chalmers on their roster now and Beasely is being offered for free according to some.
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daquan cook is hardly a bad contract. 1 year at $2.2mil for a guy who can shoot and defend. not a starter, but at that salary, doesn't need to be.
I wasn't refering to DC. I just meant in general that's how OKC pulls off those kinds of trades. They're going to be a very scary team.
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Probably trying to grease the skids to get Amar'e in there, who's pretty much been quoted in saying he'd like to play in Miami.
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he's from miami right? i think he ends up there, maybe he stays in phoenix. can't see him elsewhere. don't think the cavs go down that road again. specially with kerr and ferry out. wonder if those 2 are sitting around having gm battles in 2k10...
that means beasley goes right? maybe a sign and trade. suns get beasley who could probably fit well in with that squad...
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Yea stoudemire lives in miami during the offseason. I see him or bosh going to miami for sure.
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D Wade with Bosh/Amare/Boozer still isnt a title team in my opinion. None of those guys play defense and Wade is due for another injury, not to mention they dont have any bench to speak of.
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none of these teams have depth/bench, chicago, new york, new jersey, miami, etc...
which makes me wonder, you sign a 3 yr deal (cause if lbj leaves no way do i see him signing for 5 without having the cavs contract and i can't see cleveland s/t'ing lbj)
could take 2-3 just to build a solid bench...
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Report: Blazers, LeBron's Advisors Are Meddling With Chris Paul
Jun 24, 2010 1:58 PM EST
Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports reports that most insiders believe that the Portland Trail Blazers have been "merciless" in trying to lean on Chris Paul to force his way out of New Orleans.
The report states that Maverick Carter and William Wesley, two of LeBron James' closest advisors, are also working hard to elbow their way into influence over Paul.
"The NBA lets LeBron's friends come and go as they please in multiple team matters that don’t involve them," writes Wojnarowski, "and they’re never held accountable for whatever complications they create."
Wojnarowski writes that even though LeBron James' representatives disputed Jalen Rose's announcement that James has all but decided to leave Cleveland, that is precisely the agenda that Wesley is pushing privately.
Wesley and Rose apparently have a close relationship.
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none of these teams have depth/bench, chicago, new york, new jersey, miami, etc...
which makes me wonder, you sign a 3 yr deal (cause if lbj leaves no way do i see him signing for 5 without having the cavs contract and i can't see cleveland s/t'ing lbj)
could take 2-3 just to build a solid bench...
except that if LBJ and Wade do team up in Miami (I don't see it for the numerous reasons I have posted in the past), then you will get many veteran discounts and the Heat would have more $$$ under the cap + the MLE and bi-annual exception.
Still, they'd only be starting with Wade, LeBron, Chalmers, Beasely, MLE, bi-annual, some cap $$$
they probably get Haslem cheap, maybe a Dampier or Haywood to fill out their starting 5. then try to find a bench.
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Oh those washington wizards. Dumb bastards just opened up the door for a dynasty to be created.... http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5324240and there's also talks of them trading Deng now. We are in trouble gentlemen. The bulls will then have enough money to sign bosh and lebron 
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Bulls to trade Hinrich and #17 to WSH for TBD. Wash doesn't have to trade any players because they will have cap space to absorb Kirk. Bulls now have room for 2 max players.
I think Washington would do that just to mess over the Cavs. Hinrich, Arenas AND Wall? Well, they should sign Felton as a FA just to corner the combo-guard market completely.
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yeah i don't understand the thinking behind that move.
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With no one outside of Wall having any desire to play defense.
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and washington has cap space, and with a plethora of players in this bunch, they could most likely land someone to pair with john wall...
i dunno, i believe it when it happens, seems a little to good to be true if your a bulls fan.
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I do believe Hinrich and Felton can play defense. Though Arenas lack may very well make up for the others.
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All this cap space and not enough players deserving of it. I think this is shaping up for a lot of disappointed fan bases. This could be like the Knicks of 2000 yr where they gave all that money to Alan Houston and some other guy. David Lee going to get Max money, Boozer? There arent enough LBJ/Bosh players to go aaround in this market.
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Amare and Joe Johnson and possibly Boozer will gladly lap up that $$$. I'm just wondering who Chicago ends up with now.
Even a lineup with Rose, JoeJ, Deng, Boozer, Noah is pretty darn good.
But, their fans would only see that it's not: Rose, Wade, Deng, LeBron, Noah
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