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Greenwich is over an hour from Bristol.. if he's going to do that then why not just have it at Bristol where they have the cameras, the facilities, and the security already in place?


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can't remember the guys name, but he also said gun to his head lbj stays.

it's not like it was peter vecsey or knick fan who's had his fake lebron jersey for 4 years now talking, this guy seemed very level headed.

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Greenwich is over an hour from Bristol.. if he's going to do that then why not just have it at Bristol where they have the cameras, the facilities, and the security already in place?




not sure, but the guy mentioned that there is an airport close to greenwich so maybe he doesn't wanna drive over an hour

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also, apparently windy found out the number that lebron could make extra by staying home is right near 38 mil.

that's a ton of money. i can't believe bosh is gonna pass that up.

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Greenwich is over an hour from Bristol.. if he's going to do that then why not just have it at Bristol where they have the cameras, the facilities, and the security already in place?




not sure, but the guy mentioned that there is an airport close to greenwich so maybe he doesn't wanna drive over an hour




I think LeBron should have done the special from the space station. i mean, if you are going big, go all out.


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That is a ton of money to be throwing away to play in Miami on a mediocre team.


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live from the space station...

"alright, after weeks of speculation, rumors, and whatnot, i have decided to sign with the bzzzzzz"

aw crap we lost the feed.

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also, apparently windy found out the number that lebron could make extra by staying home is right near 38 mil.

that's a ton of money. i can't believe bosh is gonna pass that up.




No kidding ... not to mention the Cavs have a roster in place, and Miami is going to be starting from scratch. He must REALLY love South Beach.

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Which NY Knicks beat writer? Sports writers in NY have about as much cred as petey.




Ouch, low blow. You Cavs fans are so sensitive. So I don't know all the ins and outs of your team, I was just stating what I saw in the playoffs over the past couple years, and what I've seen of your team this season. Outside opinion, that's all. But very informing for me on the sad situation of the Cavalier team. But I do hope you guys keep Lebron

Otherwise, I hope he comes to NYC Baby!


But yeah, I dunno, Bristol's like 1.5 hours from Greenwich, so it's not THAT close. He'd be better off doing it in Bristol and then catching a flight out of Hartford if that was the case.......... (But yes, there is an airport near Greenwich, Westchester Airport, 20 min away which would be very convinient)

Boys and Girls Club of Greenwich - Good spot. I played on a badminton team there when i was in elementary school, lol. The Hawks. Competitive Badminton, haha. I will admit I did have a lot of fun

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live from the space station...

"alright, after weeks of speculation, rumors, and whatnot, i have decided to sign with the bzzzzzz"

aw crap we lost the feed.




Buzz? Oh no, Buzz Aldrin is from NJ. We're toast


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Don't worry bout it now Pete...It's DONE...

U guys can sugar -ass this all u want...

Dirk stays in Dallas...
Wade in Miami...
Bosh (SCREW U) in Miami...
Amare in NY...
Boozer a Bull...

Bosh has just joined Modell as the MOST HATED in Cleveland...NOT Bron's fault...

Bron's GONE folks...I'd be SHOCKED if he stays now...Screw U BOSH...


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Nearest big airport to Bristol CT is Bradley and its quite a small airport, I lived 10 min from Bristol for almost a year and when I would fly out of Brad it was almost an hour drive, usually 90min+ with the hartford traffic enroute.

If theres an airport 20min to greenwich it makes sense because espn doesnt have to travel far to cover it and LBJ can easily get in and out. Wouldn't surprise me if espn is covering his fare too.


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Bosh has just joined Modell as the MOST HATED in Cleveland...NOT Bron's fault...



I agree that it's not LeBrons fault but I think this is a little over the top... I'm upset but Bosh never played here... ever. If I was a Raptors fan I might hate him... If LeBron leaves because of this my anger will still be directed at LeBron, not Bosh.


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Oh every time he close his eye,
he sees his name in dollar signs, oohh yeah heh
a different city thursday night oooh I
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Bosh has just joined Modell as the MOST HATED in Cleveland...NOT Bron's fault...



I agree that it's not LeBrons fault but I think this is a little over the top... I'm upset but Bosh never played here... ever. If I was a Raptors fan I might hate him... If LeBron leaves because of this my anger will still be directed at LeBron, not Bosh.




Have u even watched this past 7 days????


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umm, have you considered:


umm...if Bosh and Wade have signed in Miami, leaving them $12mil cap room.

and Boozer has signed in Chicago, leaving them $14mil in cap room

and Amare has signed with NYK (starting at $20mil since he has a higher max number), leaving them $14mil in cap room

LeBron can't even get the non-Cav max from either without help from Gilbert/Grant

any talking head mentioned this? that he's stuck now if all this is true (unless he wants to be a Clip or a Net?). so he'd be losing even more $$$ to go?


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No, lots of folks are still acting like LeBron to Chicago or Miami or their city of choice is a done deal, regardless of how highly improbable it is.

A guy who does ESPN Radio down in Miami was on Rizzo's show today talking about how LeBron is coming to Miami on a three year deal to "learn how to win" from Pat Riley, and then he would go back to Cleveland after his contract with the Heat was up.

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Oh every time he close his eye,
he sees his name in dollar signs, oohh yeah heh
a different city thursday night oooh I
I swear, the world better prepare
for the LeBron the Billionaire





If Lebron should choose beautiful South Beach
then my little ditty will not be a reach
LBJ'll go the way of the great Tiger woods
as he's busted delivering a beach bunny the goods
He'll lose the house the kids and the wife
twill be the demise of LeBrons good life.
So alas young man stay in your beloved Cleveland
and satisfy any urge, WHAM, with a right hand!

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Bosh has just joined Modell as the MOST HATED in Cleveland...NOT Bron's fault...




It's hard to find fault with a guy who is true to his priorities. Bosh's first priority is obviously where he lives, not playing with the best player or making the most money. It's hard to be mad at someone who is honest with himself.

Having said that, it was a pretty big slap in the face for the city of Cleveland.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Bosh has just joined Modell as the MOST HATED in Cleveland...NOT Bron's fault...



I agree that it's not LeBrons fault but I think this is a little over the top... I'm upset but Bosh never played here... ever. If I was a Raptors fan I might hate him... If LeBron leaves because of this my anger will still be directed at LeBron, not Bosh.




Have u even watched this past 7 days????



Yea, why?


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Having said that, it was a pretty big slap in the face for the city of Cleveland.




Eh, all that will subside when Miami is no better off than they have been the past few seasons. Bosh isn't going to average the 24 ppg he did in Toronto because he's now the #2 scoring option. He might get 18 and 10 a night, which are slight improvements over what they got last year from Jermaine O'Neal (14 and 7) but hardly game-changing. Then they have Beasley and Chalmers and...that's it. They have to fill out the rest of their roster with scraps. That includes a center, because Bosh said he doesn't want to play the 5. Maybe they'll bring back Shaq...

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Breaking News:

LeBron James to sign 2 year deal with the Toronto Argonauts of the CFL!

He will be playing WR, to form a deadly duo with newly acquired QB Brett Favre.



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I don't understand all the hatin' on LBJ right now. He hasn't even said where he's going yet.

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umm, have you considered:


umm...if Bosh and Wade have signed in Miami, leaving them $12mil cap room.

and Boozer has signed in Chicago, leaving them $14mil in cap room

and Amare has signed with NYK (starting at $20mil since he has a higher max number), leaving them $14mil in cap room

LeBron can't even get the non-Cav max from either without help from Gilbert/Grant

any talking head mentioned this? that he's stuck now if all this is true (unless he wants to be a Clip or a Net?). so he'd be losing even more $$$ to go?




Nice post ... although I'm curious where you got your NY numbers from. From what I heard, they still have room for one more max contract, while Chicago and Miami would now have to do something creative with trades to wiggle Lebron under the cap.

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I've never wavered on the opinion that he stays.

He'll stay.

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I didn't think that there were any teams that could outright sign three max deals, and the only ones that could sign two max deals were teams that already had Bird rights to one of them, but its very likely that I could be wrong about that. Knicks had a little over $34 million before Amar'e, so whatever his deal takes away from that.

If I'm Dan Gilbert, no way in hell do I do a s&t with LeBron. I understand the idea of getting something instead of nothing, but none of these teams have anything I'd want, unless Chicago is going to give us Derrick Rose.

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umm, have you considered:


umm...if Bosh and Wade have signed in Miami, leaving them $12mil cap room.

and Boozer has signed in Chicago, leaving them $14mil in cap room

and Amare has signed with NYK (starting at $20mil since he has a higher max number), leaving them $14mil in cap room

LeBron can't even get the non-Cav max from either without help from Gilbert/Grant

any talking head mentioned this? that he's stuck now if all this is true (unless he wants to be a Clip or a Net?). so he'd be losing even more $$$ to go?




Yes I have...And U GOT IT...


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I don't understand all the hatin' on LBJ right now. He hasn't even said where he's going yet.



People are just tired and frustrated from being yanked around for weeks... months... years.. about this. And, being Cleveland fans, it's only natural to assume this won't end well for us.


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umm, have you considered:


umm...if Bosh and Wade have signed in Miami, leaving them $12mil cap room.

and Boozer has signed in Chicago, leaving them $14mil in cap room

and Amare has signed with NYK (starting at $20mil since he has a higher max number), leaving them $14mil in cap room

LeBron can't even get the non-Cav max from either without help from Gilbert/Grant

any talking head mentioned this? that he's stuck now if all this is true (unless he wants to be a Clip or a Net?). so he'd be losing even more $$$ to go?




Nice post ... although I'm curious where you got your NY numbers from. From what I heard, they still have room for one more max contract, while Chicago and Miami would now have to do something creative with trades to wiggle Lebron under the cap.




well, we've all seen the 5year/$100mil from Woj.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-stoudemireknicks070510

some sites say starting at $19mil, some say $18mil. noone really knows since he can't sign his contract just yet.

Amare would have to start at $17.4mil to fit another $16.6 contract on their books (they had room for 2 max contracts if they were both starting at the LeBron/Wade/Bosh level, Amare is above that).

let's see if we can get to $100mil from $17.4 (I didn't do the math before based on the 8% max raise per year)
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q46

$17.4
$17.4 * 1.08 = 18.792
* 1.08 = 20.295
* 1.08 = 21.919
* 1.08 = 23.673

total = $102.078mil



So, I take back what I said about the Knicks. Math works out that Amare is starting around $17.4mil and they have enough for a $16.6 contract.


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Right now its all speculation as they haven't even made the announcement whether Bosh is going there as a free agent or whether Miami and Toronto are going to work out a sign and trade. There is a video on espn.com that says if Wade/Bosh/LeBron all go there for the max deal, they have to trade Beasley which leaves them one other player under contract and less than a million to fill out the roster. I'm not a cap guy and I know LeBron/Wade/Bosh would be as great as Pierce/Allen/Garnett... but can that trio win with less than a million dollars worth of support? I don't think so.


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I don't understand all the hatin' on LBJ right now. He hasn't even said where he's going yet.



People are just tired and frustrated from being yanked around for weeks... months... years.. about this. And, being Cleveland fans, it's only natural to assume this won't end well for us.




It's "only natural,"...wow, but the truth, and it still stinks. It has pretty much boiled down to, the Cavs have no cap room, and there are no "supporting cast" all-stars to be had,.....

He's GONE.

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Same here, watching pretty much everyone else freak out is kind of entertaining though :P


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I will admit one thing, I was totally wrong in that I thought LeBron was the biggest domino in the game and that he would fall first and then the world would sort itself out around him... turns out almost all of the other pieces have fallen and now LeBron can sit back and make a perfectly informed decision about where he wants to go and who he wants to play with... I guess I should have seen that coming.


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Nor can they coexist averaging 18-20 points a night.

Zero depth on the bench.

No chance of 3-peat for MVP for James.

splitting the adoration of the fans 2 or 3 ways.

Sorry, that move aint gonna happen.

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i hear boozer's deal was backloaded so they could still get lbj, however i also hear lbj did not come out impressed with their meeting saturday.

i think its nyc v cle

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I will admit one thing, I was totally wrong in that I thought LeBron was the biggest domino in the game and that he would fall first and then the world would sort itself out around him... turns out almost all of the other pieces have fallen and now LeBron can sit back and make a perfectly informed decision about where he wants to go and who he wants to play with... I guess I should have seen that coming.




This is why my money is on Miami. Yes, he might have to take a big pay cut. Would the Union stop him ? I think NY is out of the question. There is nothing there, basketball-wise. Amare ? Maybe,...

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oldmutt.. this is my thought as far as his "legacy" goes.. LeBron knows he needs championships if he ever wants anybody to take him seriously when mentioned with MJ.. heck when mentioned with Kobe... but is he going to get that winning a couple championships on a stacked team? Are people going to elevate his status in the greatest ever debate if he wins a couple championships with not one but TWO other superstars on his team? What has it done for KG's status? Not much.

MJ had very good people around him when he won championships but the only one that could even be in the discussion as being "great" is Pippen..

Kobe won with Shaq but people still questioned him until he won WITHOUT Shaq...

So how much will it help LeBron if... IF... he wins championships on a team with Wade and Bosh?


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i hear boozer's deal was backloaded so they could still get lbj, however i also hear lbj did not come out impressed with their meeting saturday.

i think its nyc v cle




you can't really backload deals much in the NBA. see link above. 108% raise is the most you can get.

Bulls had about $30mil in cap room

that means Boozer starts at $13.4mil. need to get to $80 in 5 years.

13.4
13.4*1.08 = 14.47
*1.08 = 15.63
*1.08 = 16.88
*1.08 = 18.23

total = $78.6mil


dangit. i underestimated how much the 8% increase could affect these contracts. goodbye to my post.

(but, I still doubt Wade/Bosh give back major $$$ to appease LeBron to get him a max deal in Miami)

$84.47mil


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