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but never that I can remember in the history of sports has a group of free agents colluded together in such a way to put them all in the same place at the same time to stack one team
Its interesting that you say this. If guys talked about doing this while under contract, and it could be proven, could this be considered tampering if a player is under contract and therefore an employee of a team? Just wondering.
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All heck will break loose when at 9:10 we find out that it's all been a decoy. LeBron resigns and they announce a Chris Paul trade or that CB really signed here! All his posse was in on it. The greatest diversion in sports history! Hopefully, at 9:11 I don't wake up and find it's a dream... 
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All heck will break loose when at 9:10 we find out that it's all been a decoy.
LeBron resigns and they announce a Chris Paul trade or that CB really signed here! All his posse was in on it. The greatest diversion in sports history!
Hopefully, at 9:11 I don't wake up and find it's a dream...
IMO it's a pipe dream. If they had the workings on a Chris Paul trade then we would know about it. New Orleans could care less about LeBron and his annoucement to hide these details from the world.
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Oh the insanity...
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/08/so-wait-lebron-is-staying/
So Wait, LeBron Is Staying? 7/08/2010 3:36 PM ET By Chris Tomasson
In 1780, I might not really have believed Benedict Arnold was signing with the British for the mid-level exception.
In 1912, I might not have confirmed the Titanic really was sinking until John Jacob Astor's wife left her diamonds behind.
It's 2010, and I'm still not convinced LeBron James is bolting to the Miami Heat.
I thought I was the only person in that category Thursday afternoon. Then I told Orlando general manager Otis Smith that I still thought James would return to Cleveland, and he said, "I think you're right.''
Now, I'm on a roll. I then dialed up somebody who is a definite insider when it comes to James and is not affiliated with Cleveland. This man, who is well known in NBA circles but said his name can't be used, believes James will announce Thursday night on ESPN that he's re-signing with the Cavaliers.
This isn't a "FanHouse-has-learned'' story, but this person does know more than most. And he offered some pretty good reasons why James will not abandon the team in his native Ohio.
"I think those reports are wrong,'' said the individual about reports James, a native of Akron, Ohio, is bolting to the Heat. "LeBron is not going to schedule a one-hour television show just to say that he's sticking it to his hometown. There's no way.''
Furthermore, the individual doesn't see James leaving Cleveland and turning down the extra money he could get by signing with the Cavaliers. Cleveland can give him a six-year, rather than a five-year contract, and 10.5 percent, rather than 8 percent raises.
"He's not going to leave $30 million on the table,'' he said. "I know LeBron.''
Then again, lots of people who know James are saying plenty of things these days. So who knows what he's going to do?
This just in: Somebody who is close to somebody who knows the King's cleaning lady believes he will join the Birmingham Barons to prove that, even if he might be six rings shy in basketball, he's definitely a better baseball player than Michael Jordan.
And FanHouse has just confirmed the Titanic did indeed sink.
Chris Tomasson can be reached at tomasson@fanhouse.com or on Twitter@christomasson
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AND pick which hot market I want to live in.. well hell that's the trifecta.. why would any star stay in Cleveland or Detroit or Milwaukee?
ive been saying that for years, if cleveland was a party city by the ocean, Bosh would have signed with us. Location location location. The playing field has never been level in pro sports. Cities like NY, LA, Miami will always have a better shot.
You think shaq would have played for the Heat if they played in North Dakota?
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Yes I think Shaq would have played in North Dakota. While he loves the camera as much as any athelete, Shaq was always about winning. If The North Dakota Sheep Hearders had a shot at the title, Shaq would show up and learn to shave em, ir apply to be a sheep dog deputy.
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All heck will break loose when at 9:10 we find out that it's all been a decoy.
LeBron resigns and they announce a Chris Paul trade or that CB really signed here! All his posse was in on it. The greatest diversion in sports history!
Hopefully, at 9:11 I don't wake up and find it's a dream...
While the Cavs fan in me would be happy.. I would still be of the opinion that is a crappy thing to do to another city like Miami.....
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While the Cavs fan in me would be happy.. I would still be of the opinion that is a crappy thing to do to another city like Miami.....
I agree, and I don't think Wade is the type to let his city (and possibly himself) be made a fool of, no matter who's doing the fooling. LBJ wouldn't do that w/out telling DWade, and Wade wouldn't just sit on it.
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They have Bosh and Wade ... they'll get over it.
I was thinking more along the lines of if the CB signing with them was an orchestrated part of the fake too...
Not to mention, I doubt you would get LeBron/Wade/Bosh to play nice on an international team if they did that to Wade.
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jadande Quote: Still hear Miami, but source says it changes every half hour." If LeBron does return to Cleveland it would be for 3-year deal. half a minute ago via web
This is flippen insane.............
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At this point it wouldn't shock me if he announced that he's signing with the T-Wolves.
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I'm personally betting on him going to Oklahoma City for a minimum contract.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Westbrook Harden Durant LBJ ( just play small ball like Orlando ) Aldrich (If trade goes through)
That's a nasty team going into the future.
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To quote a friend of mine's facebook status: "is predicting that the Lebron special on ESPN will leave you with the same feeling that Geraldo did after opening Al Capone's secret vault."  Wouldn't it be AWESOME if he came out and announced that he hadn't made his decision yet?
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To quote a friend of mine's facebook status:
"is predicting that the Lebron special on ESPN will leave you with the same feeling that Geraldo did after opening Al Capone's secret vault."
I felt used, abused and violated after that turd of a show! Yeah...you're right I probably will. 
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Ric Bucher: FWIW: disparate opinions among gms, agents, league HQ officials today about where LeBron is going, but consensus on 1 thing: it's not Mia WHAT THE )(%$(@$(@$(@($(@$@!!!!! When will it end?!!?!? 
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jadande Quote: Still hear Miami, but source says it changes every half hour." If LeBron does return to Cleveland it would be for 3-year deal. half a minute ago via web
This is flippen insane.............
At this point it's pretty much a horse race. People throwing their crap on the wall, playing the odds and hoping their horse/prediction was the right one ... that way they look like they scooped everyone else. 
Like I said before ... I really hope Lebron announces "Cleveland" ... then denounces everyone but Brian Windhorst for being a crap journalist, flips off the ESPN execs, hocks a luggie at the ESPN cameras and then goes all "Vanilla Ice" to their set.
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as much as i want him back, don't do it for 3 years. i don't wanna go through this bs again in 3 years. because you know it would be tough to bring in a true #2 with such a short commitment.
i think the only shot they have is to target chris paul in 2 years, just because he seems to like the area, he has a close connection with lbj, and he's now part of lrmr.
just do it for 6.
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i think the only shot they have is to target chris paul in 2 years, just because he seems to like the area, he has a close connection with lbj, and he's now part of lrmr.
We could also go after Dwight
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i think the only shot they have is to target chris paul in 2 years, just because he seems to like the area, he has a close connection with lbj, and he's now part of lrmr.
We could also go after Dwight
dwight ain't leavin' orlando for miami
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Good grief it's totally dominating the local newscast! Parties and whatnot going on all over, a countdown on the screen, Sheeeeesh! If this guy leaves tonight you'll see a "War of the Worlds" type panic! Mass suicides, weeping and gnashing of teeth etc.
He is gonna get off on all the love given him if/when he stays. It will feed the "king" size ego which may well be the plan. "Look, I'm the king of Ohio, no doubt about it boys!....Suckaaaas!"
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i think the only shot they have is to target chris paul in 2 years, just because he seems to like the area, he has a close connection with lbj, and he's now part of lrmr.
We could also go after Dwight
dwight ain't leavin' orlando for miami
What? 
I was refering to the cavs
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I think he means ... Dwight wouldn't want to leave Orlando for Miami ... why would he want to leave Orlando for Cleveland?
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Same here, where ever you go today, whether it is work, school, or a store, it's all about Lebron. I wonder what the viewership rating is going to be around 9PM tonight on ESPN.... 
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I think he means ... Dwight wouldn't want to leave Orlando for Miami ... why would he want to leave Orlando for Cleveland?
If we still had LeBron and cap room I'd think he'd reconsider
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You mean like Chris Bosh, Michael Redd and Ray Allen did? 
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haha, maybe i am the real lbj, my mind is already in mia 
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I think he means ... Dwight wouldn't want to leave Orlando for Miami ... why would he want to leave Orlando for Cleveland?
Because Cleveland isn't some Mickey Mouse town. 
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Something that kind of gets overlooked about that super 3 is that Orlando could still beat them. We all know LBJ and Wade would do there thing. However who's going to slow Dwight down inside? It sure as hell won't be bosh.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ian_thomsen/07/08/lebron.miami/index.html?eref=sihpread the anonymous reports that LeBron James will sign with the Miami Heat and I don't believe them. Until he says otherwise himself Thursday night, I will continue to believe this entire process will steer him back home to the Cleveland Cavaliers. I've been hearing all year long is that James alone will make this decision. He will listen to advice, he will take account of the different offers and opinions, and in the end he will make his own choice. This is what I've been told for a long time and it was spelled out most eloquently in a recent column by the Cleveland Plain Dealer's Brian Windhorst, who is plugged into James' camp. So when I read of unnamed sources saying that James is going to Miami, I wonder: Do they absolutely 100 percent know what he is going to say Thursday night? I also cannot understand why James' camp would arrange for this drum-roll proclamation on national television and then leak out word of the final result before the boss -- James himself -- can make his announcement. That makes no sense whatsoever. Do all of these reality TV shows -- Survivor or Big Brother -- want you to know who is going to be the winner before you watch the season-ending broadcast? The rule of reality TV is to advertise a surprising "twist" without letting viewers know what it may be. If people who really do know what James is thinking have been spreading word that he'll sign with Miami, then I view that as another way of creating suspense and surprise for the actual announcement to have maximum impact. If we all believe he's going to Miami, and he goes on TV to say he's going to Miami, then what was the point of the live TV show? If his own camp is leaking out the final result then there is ultimately going to be little drama to "The Decision," as the ESPN show has been titled. Here is the third reason to wonder if we're all being played. Going back to November, on the morning of James' only game this season at Madison Square Garden, I believe I was the first to firmly predict that this entire process was set up for him to return to Cleveland. This is what I wrote Nov. 6: I bet James already has the entire recruiting process planned out. He'll listen to the Knicks, the Nets and anyone else who wishes to speak with him. Then he'll hold a news conference on live TV and announce that he is staying with Cleveland. It will be the professional version of national signing day, when the top high school recruit announces the college of his choice. But it will be much bigger than that. An entire city will rejoice, and its people will speak of how proud they are of their LeBron James. Casual fans who would have booed him for going to New York will now be cheering for him because he stayed in Cleveland. By showing loyalty to his hometown, he'll have a chance to become a bigger force than he could have been on the world's greatest stage. He'll be the NBA's Family Guy. So now, as forecast here eight months ago, he is making the announcement on live TV. So far it has played out the way I thought it would. Is he really going to use this setting to say he's moving to Miami or Chicago? (And don't believe the last-minute Knicks talk -- New York has no chance.) If James uses the vehicle of a celebratory one-hour TV special to declare that he's abandoning the people of Akron and the fans of the Cavaliers, then he'll never be able to go back home again. The Akron/Cleveland area is the only place he has ever lived. It is everything he knows. I truly believe -- as do people who know him, the same people who are saying Thursday they still don't know his decision -- that if he was going to move to Miami or Chicago, then he would have arranged the least painful exit so as not to destroy his reputation at home. Instead, if he goes on live TV tonight to say he's walking out on the only place he's known, then he has done so in the most painful way imaginable. He has tortured millions of people who for months have had faith that he would stay -- and he has ruthlessly cut them off. Let's give James credit for intelligence, based on the extraordinary success of how he has positioned himself in the global marketplace as a 25-year-old. He is a smart guy, and everything he has said so far suggests that he will return to Cleveland. He constantly announces to crowds in Akron how much he loves them and his home city, and he has repeatedly said that Cleveland is in the driver's seat in the race to retain him. When he goes on TV on Thursday he'll be able to say truthfully that he himself has never indicated he was going to leave Cleveland. A lot of negatives will follow him to Miami. His people at home will feel betrayed. He will have to change his style of play -- sacrifice is the common term -- in order to fit in with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, even though James, by his own admission, has yet to peak as a player. Shouldn't he want to explore his own potential before he begins deferring to others? And how is that Miami team going to win a championship immediately with as many as seven roster spots to be filled by yet-to-be-identified veterans on minimum contracts? None of this Miami talk makes any sense to me. This extravagant charade is set up for James to go on TV Thursday to declare his loyalty to his hometown, to say he took a look around at more glamorous places and in the end decided there is no place better for him than Cleveland. And then he'll go into next season with a promising new coach in Byron Scott and a deep roster that has won 127 games over the last two seasons, and every time he puts on the Cavs uniform he'll be selling himself as a player who was ultimately loyal to his hometown and his franchise -- which is how every athlete who endorses products hopes to be viewed. Maybe I'll turn out to be wrong. But if I am, then it's James who has made the biggest mistakes by deciding to abandon his hometown in the ruthless setting of a national broadcast and then ruining the drama of his live TV announcement by leaking out news that he's going to Miami. He's staying in Cleveland, I say.
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I think I know what is going to happen tonight.
LeBron James will be sitting there, ready to announce. He'll start talking. Then boom, in comes Kanye West.
"Yo LeBron, Imma let you finish, but Michael Jordan was the best basketball player of all time!"
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I think we need not trash the guy at this point. Let's wait to see what he does.
There will be plenty of time to trash him after the fact if in fact he bolts.
I'm sure it's already been said in one of the 2 threads but the VERY WAY he is handling this FA situation stinks of Prima Donna BS drama that is not necessary.
A one hour special?
Methinks the "King" moniker has gone to his head.
I can remember many moons ago being trounced on the original board for speaking ill of Lebron and how he was coming into the league. I recanted my words later and said he seemed to be a good young man after all.
Guess my first instinct was right, and that goes for whether he stays in Cleveland or bolts.
Just got back from a afternoon out.....I don't disagree. A TV special to screw us over isn't the sign of a classy guy.
But then again, it isn't really screwing us over.....just tacky.
I wonder if our FO knows the decision at this point? It would be pretty crappy to make them sit there and wait for his decision to leave.
He is leaving....I actually hope so at this point. He could have signed with us at any point up to today.
Actually, saying he is staying is a bigger slap in the face then if he says he is leaving...I mean WTF....why do this to the city and team??
Up to this point...or a few days ago, he really couldn't say anything because in "theory" he didn't know if anybody was going to make him a offer.
What he hasn't said is all we need to hear.
What LBJ doesn't get is you don't go in to another mans house as a guest and sleep in his bed. That is Wades house.
LBJ always fancied himself as Jordon, but the reality is he is going to become Wades Pippin.
Oh well.....have a good life Mr Pippin.
Guess I just trashed the guy....oh well...
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Miami is also a beach to live in.
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I didn't think it was possible but LeBron has put a little bit of Brett Favre tarnish on his legacy and he's only 25.
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if anyone is interested they had art modell on the mike trivasano show. I couldn't stand listening to the man, but he claimed we need to get over Lebron leaving if he does. Also pointed out that Lebron wouldn't affect the city as much as people think. SAid cleveland had the best sports fans in the world. Was on about 30 minutes.
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