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However they're gonna have 9 scrubs to fill out the rest of there roster. They'll sign guys like Mike Miller and a washed up Shaq. They have no center to stop a guy like Dwight Howard. They have no true PG to stop a guy like Rondo. The Lakers are still the defending champs and can probably repeat.
They won't get Mike Miller. He won't play for the minimum. They need guys to play for the absolute minimum. They'll get a few ring-chasers, but not guys who can make serious coin elsewhere.
Shaq? Not sure he's ready to go down that road again. I think he goes to the West, but it is a possibility.
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I think they already got Miller. Source I found says the deal is somewhere in the ballpark of 5yrs/$30 million. I have no idea how they're going to pay for all this.
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Did LeBron/Wade/Bosh leave a lot more $$$ on the table then?
How do they have another $4-5mil to give Miller next year?
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No idea. Last article I'd read, trading Beasley for nothing freed them up to give each guy a max contract with around $1.8 million left to spend. I suppose it could be that they're open to taking much less than the max, which I believe is the only way they could afford to sign Miller.
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They're playing for a buck ninety eight each?
I'd like to see a trio of baseball players try an pull this off! Talk about the union stepping in!
Can this effect what owners may offer stars in next years FA period? "Hey, those three are paying for this amount so we'll give you this amount".
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trade exemptions are for when you trade players, the article said they signed him though that would make sense and it's quite possible the article got it wrong.
oh, and while he's not great, I am a bit bitter that LeBron didn't at least force the Heat to give us Beasely and a couple draft picks. Leaving for absolutely nothing is great. Thanks (no Beasely and a couple draft picks really wouldn't hurt our cap situation and would give us more trade assets and young players in the future).
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I'd like to see a trio of baseball players try an pull this off! Talk about the union stepping in!
Can this effect what owners may offer stars in next years FA period? "Hey, those three are paying for this amount so we'll give you this amount".
what an argument.
2 of the top 3 or 4 players in the league, make x in miami.
all the rest of you, why should you make y amount?
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trade exemptions are for when you trade players, the article said they signed him though that would make sense and it's quite possible the article got it wrong.
oh, and while he's not great, I am a bit bitter that LeBron didn't at least force the Heat to give us Beasely and a couple draft picks. Leaving for absolutely nothing is great. Thanks (no Beasely and a couple draft picks really wouldn't hurt our cap situation and would give us more trade assets and young players in the future).
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Well if you watched his monument to self-love, at one point he talked about how him not trying for a sign and trade was somehow beneficial for the Cavs and a sign of respect. I guess we shouldn't be surprised, as this is the same guy who let his employer of seven years know he was leaving the same time as the janitor at the CitGo watching on a 9" set.
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Oh .... and I think that they should give #23 to the last player on the bench next season ...... and #6 to the guy next to him.
I think the Cavs should retire the #23...
.... in honor of MJ.
I was thinking the exact same thing last night ... what a slap in the face that would be.
Actually, They should make the last person on the bench wear #23...
Remember, Lebron was talking about changing numbers to honor MJ that way.. The Cavs should be under no obligation to do so.
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Heard it on the radio and checked....this is classic.... LeBron Fatheads price reduced to $17.41 The birth year of Benedict Arnold. http://www.fathead.com/search-results/lebron/http://detnews.com/article/20100709/SPORTS0102/7090431/1127/rss13LeBron Fatheads now carry not-so-coincidental price of $17.41 Vincent Goodwill / The Detroit News If you thought Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert might cool down after having a night to digest LeBron James' departure, think again. Fathead, the company owned by Gilbert that makes life-size wall graphics, has placed all James-related items on clearance. James' three life-size Fatheads, which were all priced at $99.99, have been trimmed down to $17.41 at Fathead.com. If that price strikes you as peculiar, you're not alone. American Revolutionary War general Benedict Arnold, a traitor who defected to the British, was born in 1741. From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20100709/SPORTS0102/7090431/1127/rss13#ixzz0tDI4oWyr
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Well if you watched his monument to self-love, at one point he talked about how him not trying for a sign and trade was somehow beneficial for the Cavs and a sign of respect. I guess we shouldn't be surprised, as this is the same guy who let his employer of seven years know he was leaving the same time as the janitor at the CitGo watching on a 9" set.
I agree, I will be pissed if sign and trade him. Miami has nothing I want and I don't want LeBron recieving another penny from us.
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Well if you watched his monument to self-love, at one point he talked about how him not trying for a sign and trade was somehow beneficial for the Cavs and a sign of respect. I guess we shouldn't be surprised, as this is the same guy who let his employer of seven years know he was leaving the same time as the janitor at the CitGo watching on a 9" set.
I agree, I will be pissed if sign and trade him. Miami has nothing I want and I don't want LeBron recieving another penny from us.
wouldn't be our money, but i know what you mean. to let him have his cake and eat it too (i hate that phrase but it's so fitting)
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D-Wade. 
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Wouldnt a sign and trade help them free up more cap space? Screw that! 
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Wouldn't a sign and trade actually be the best way to stick it to Miami? They would be on the hook to pay Lebron more and effectively eat up any remaining cap space.
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Wouldnt a sign and trade help them free up more cap space?
No, it would eat it up ... Cap is fixed. If Lebron is earning a "Bird-rights" contract with both Bosh and Wade, they would have nothing left except maybe the mid-level exception.
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The NBA is loving it. They'll create avenues for this trio to win. They need it.
Heck they are already pimping LBJ Heat jerseys on the NBA homesite.
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That is hilarious, Gilbert is the man.
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No, it would eat it up ... Cap is fixed. If Lebron is earning a "Bird-rights" contract with both Bosh and Wade, they would have nothing left except maybe the mid-level exception.
MLE is only for teams without cap space at the opening of FA. Heat should not be eligible for the MLE unless I misunderstand the rule.
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Whitlock's article is dead on.
I was afraid that some people outside of Ohio and espcially Cleveland would think that our fanbase is in the wrong here and Lebron did the right thing.
Those people that think that are morons.
I'm loving the fact that his ass is getting put in it's place by media EVERYWHERE. I haven't seen an article yet outside of Florida that has made the guy look good.
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I don't follow other teams rosters that closely. How does the big 3 in Miami differ from the big 3 in Boston?
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Something that kind of gets overlooked is this. He didn't just ... of clevelands media. New York, Chicago, New Jersey and hell some of Los Angeles are going to rip him to shreds now.
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I don't follow other teams rosters that closely. How does the big 3 in Miami differ from the big 3 in Boston?
if you mean in terms of how it affects the cap, then it's the fact that Allen and Garnett were traded for, which means the Celtics (already over the cap from extending their own players) were allowed to continue to go over the cap with them.
the Heat had to have room under the cap to get someone else's players.
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if you mean basketball wise, it would be that these 3 are in their prime and that 2 of them are among the top4 players in the NBA now. Bosh is somewhere in the 10-15 range.
you could also then point to the Celtics actually having a full team behind them though.
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They're playing for a buck ninety eight each?
I'd like to see a trio of baseball players try an pull this off! Talk about the union stepping in!
Can this effect what owners may offer stars in next years FA period? "Hey, those three are paying for this amount so we'll give you this amount".
what an argument.
2 of the top 3 or 4 players in the league, make x in miami.
all the rest of you, why should you make y amount?
the union must be fuming.
Especially with a labor agreement nearing its end .......
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Something that kind of gets overlooked is this. He didn't just ... of clevelands media. New York, Chicago, New Jersey and hell some of Los Angeles are going to rip him to shreds now.
If I was a betting man, I'd bet that the fact that some folks in Cleveland are burning his jerseys comes as no shock to him... the fact that fans in NY and Chicago are pissed probably comes as no shock to him...
I bet the letter from Gilbert is a shock but I'll bet the national media is the biggest shocking.. using words like narcisist, coward, etc... I'm betting he wasn't prepared for that national backlash..
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sorry, i should have clarified my question better. I saw some posts in this thread about who is going to guard howard, whats going to happen when lebron, wade and bosh take a breather etc. It got me thinking, how does this differ from Boston and their big 3? Did Boston have more talent outside of their big 3, where miami will just have their 3 and a bunch of scrubs?
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Did Boston have more talent outside of their big 3, where miami will just have their 3 and a bunch of scrubs?
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Kendric Perkins, Rondo, PJ Brown, Wallace, Posey
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sorry, i should have clarified my question better. I saw some posts in this thread about who is going to guard howard, whats going to happen when lebron, wade and bosh take a breather etc. It got me thinking, how does this differ from Boston and their big 3? Did Boston have more talent outside of their big 3, where miami will just have their 3 and a bunch of scrubs?
yeah, Boston had Rondo and Perkins. In '08, Perkins was the better player. He was the perfect Dwight stopper as he can handle him 1on1 and he abused Gasol/Odom vs. the Lakers on the defensive end. Rondo was more of a liability then, but he played better defense back then and went crazy after loose balls.
Then, they had a bunch of vet's who came through in the clutch like Eddie House and PJ Brown. Let's see...I believe Tony Allen was hurt for that run, but they still had pre-injury Powe and Glen Davis as well.
Miami may get some of the vets, but you never know for sure if they will come through for you when you need it most. And, outside of Chalmers, they really don't have nearly as much youth that may develop like that Boston team did.
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I hope you are right DC. I can't imagine how siding with two other superstars is going to help his "brand". I'm glad to see that my thinking seems to be shared by at least the articles I have seen so far. It won't be king James and Lebron, it will be all about whatever nickname the media decides to put on the three of them. Bosch will make out the best, this will probably boost Wade a little, or at least keep him where he's at. But James is all of a sudden one third of a brand in my opinion. And look out if they don't win on a nightly basis.
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Nobody knows for sure.. one thing Boston had was a young unproven Rondo who, as it turns out, is pretty darn good. They also had some talent on the bench.. Perkins, Powe, Posey, Big Baby Davis.. The thing was that Allen and Garnett were older and more mature, even Pierce was mature, they played as a team..
Literally nobody knows whether or not the guys surrounding The Three Me Egos will be scrubs or not because Miami hasn't signed them yet.. and nobody knows how Wade and LeBron are going to play together.... neither is a spot up shooter.. is LeBron going to drive and kick to Wade for the jumper? That's not Wades game. Is Wade going to drive and kick to LeBron for the jumper? That's not LeBrons game either.. so who knows, the players are very similar in their style and I think that could cause a problem...
The biggest difference is age, the Celtics guys were nearing the end, these 3 are all entering their primes.. if they can get it right, they should win a bunch of championships, though I hope fate and the Lord above keep that from happening.
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This is pretty complimentary ...... http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-chasing-celebrity-not-championships-070910This was Tiger Woods II, a wounded child star revealing the toll of celebrity and brand-building on his character, decision-making and self-awareness. As of right now, we have no clue if we’ll ever again see the old Tiger Woods, the ruthless, lethal golfer eclipsing Jack Nicklaus. Thanksgiving ’09 damaged that Tiger. The Summer of ’10 may have done irreparable damage to LeBron James. Thursday night, his LeBrontourage and ESPN enablers dressed him in a clown suit, topped it with a black hat and turned him into a buffoonish laughingstock and villain. Will he recover? For seven years, James seemed to delight in, court and fuel himself with universal adoration and respect. It’s gone now, and it’s not coming back. He’s a hero in Miami, a coward in New York, a spoiled, narcissistic punk most everywhere else and Black Modell in Ohio. Will he recover? For seven years, James seemed to delight in, court and fuel himself with universal adoration and respect. It’s gone now, and it’s not coming back. He’s a hero in Miami, a coward in New York, a spoiled, narcissistic punk most everywhere else and Black Modell in Ohio. Cavs fans burned his jersey in the streets. Police protected his house in Akron and a giant “Witness” banner in downtown Cleveland. Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert eviscerated LeBron’s reputation, telling the Associated Press that James quit in the playoffs, wouldn’t return phone calls or text messages for more than a month and described James’ televised reality-show exit self-promotional and cowardly. Maybe LeBron wants to be the NBA’s Bad Boy, a mix of Allen Iverson, Isiah Thomas and Bill Laimbeer. Maybe the venom directed LeBron’s way will motivate him, mature his competitive focus. Or maybe he’ll melt. Tiger looks guilt-ridden and less confident since his flaws were exposed, since his initial prisoner-of-war press conference turned him into Jay Leno and David Letterman fodder. “The Decision,” LeBron’s emotion-free, lovemaking session with Jim Gray, Stu Scott, Mike Wilbon, Jon Barry and Chris Broussard, is something sports fans will never forget. It was America’s first all-male, PG-13 celebrity sex tape. The problem is, LeBron’s handlers failed to warn him that sex tapes enhance the careers of female celebrities. The men, unless strapped like Tommy Lee and performing opposite Pamela Anderson, don’t get much bounce or they’re ridiculed. “I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James,” King James told Wilbon. “What LeBron James was going to do to make him happy.” Yep, his most memorable speaking line from LeDecision was delivered in third person. He’s a joke, and only the insanely dishonest will defend his performance and the decision to host LeBron-apalooza. LeBron and Maverick Carter, the King’s right-hand man, actually thought a $2.5 million check to the Boys and Girls Club and online scholarships to the University of Phoenix would clean up this mess, would ease the pain in his hometown. Can LeBron handle the mental abuse he’s about to endure? Will being reviled energize him the way being revered did? You can’t effectively fly insulting banners over NBA arenas, but you sure as hell can heckle and taunt with signs. The abuse some would like to heap on Tiger Woods on the golf course, they’ll be free to unload on the new, tattooed poster child for athletic self-indulgence and narcissism. Tiger operates in a PGA-fortified cocoon. LeBron works in the NBA’s boiling pot, ground zero for the culture war between hip-hop values and corporate sponsorship. He’s a target now. The preening and dancing and powder-throwing have a stench, a B.O., as in Bron Owens, the NBA’s Terrell Owens. Where was Nike? Why didn’t Phil Knight put a stop to this, get James to comprehend the risks? No one cares about LeBron giving the advertising dollars from “The Decision” to the Boys and Girls Club. James would’ve been better served cutting a personal check to a Cleveland/Akron charity and informing the Cavs he was leaving immediately after the playoffs. It appears Dan Gilbert is irate because he realizes LeBron made LeDecision long ago. This whole spectacle was a gigantic tease, a charade. The Cavs‘ offseason approach (draft, free agency, Mike Brown, Danny Ferry) might have been dramatically different had the organization known from the get-go James was leaving. LeBron owed Gilbert and Cavs fans a heads-up. “I wanted to do what was best for LeBron James,” he said. “What LeBron James was going to do to make him happy.” When James announced his decision, he didn’t say he was joining Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and the Miami Heat. LeBron said he was going to South Beach. He’s Tiger Woods, chasing a childhood celebrity stole. LeBrand, Maverick, Drama and Turtle are headed to South Beach to party with D.Wade and CB4. There’ll be more new baby-mamas than championships. OK .... maybe not that complimentary ....... 
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