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Clinton also benefitted from Newt Gingrich's republican congress that sort of acted like conservatives are supposed to act.
 You can't be serious.
Acted like conservatives are supposed to act.
Gingrich and his boys practically invented pork spending as we know it (while denouncing it, of course). Dude actually stood on the floor in the summer of '96 and urged the GOP to get as much pork spending through as possible to win favor with constituents (4 years after claiming he was going to rid Congress of it).
You do realize that Gingrich single-handedly made his district one of the largest recipients of pork bills for the better part of a decade? And it happened when he and his boys made a push to give money to their constituents to win elections.
How a conservative is supposed to act ... where did that idea come from? A.M. radio?
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In a Bloomberg survey, 70 percent of voters said reducing unemployment is more important than reducing the deficit. But only 47 percent said Congress should reauthorize extended benefits, which in some states provided the unemployed with up to 99 weeks of checks.
A poll commissioned by the National Employment Law Project in June found that 74 percent of voters think helping the unemployed is more important than reducing the deficit.
Extended benefits for the long-term unemployed lapsed at the end of May because Republicans and some Democrats in Congress insisted that the cost of the jobless aid not be added to the deficit.
Well according to that survey.. Republicans ARE in tune with a good portion of the American Voters..... It's just the author of the article and you fail at Reading Comprehension...
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In a Bloomberg survey, 70 percent of voters said reducing unemployment is more important than reducing the deficit.
70% do believe that we should be helping the unemployed....
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But only 47 percent said Congress should reauthorize extended benefits,
Only 47% think Congress should reauthorize extended benefits... So it looks like most voters WANT to help the unemployed, but they don't think extending the unemployment benefits is the way to do it... 47% is not a majority...
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TLBorlando...don't be surprised if all the "anti American worker" Republicans on this board,
Anyone posting on this message board, about the "reality" of today's employment situation, is immediately classified as "a lazy, no good democrat".
Republicans on this message board believe deficit financed tax cuts for the wealthiest, is a good thing...that trickle down economics is the only economic model this country should consider.
We just lived through 8 years of trickle down economics that rewarded the richest Americans...after living through 8 years of Democratic economic policies that focused on raising taxes on the richest and targeting tax cuts toward the working class....
...yet the GWBush Republicans on this message board will tell you that the Bush tax cuts should be extended...
Republicans cannot face reality...trickle down economics failed (again) and many Americans seeking work live with that reality, today...Americans like Dawgtalker TLBorlando...
TL...welcome to the board and thanks for adding your comments.
...note: I have no idea if TL is a democrat or republican...folks need to realize, many "republicans" are unemployed too!
You cannot simply look at the policies of Clinton and the policies of Bush II and say they are the reasons why the economies were the way they were.
Clinton years, we experienced a huge booming economy made out of thin air through the Tech bubble where the web create a lot of millionaires based off of invisible assets.. Clinton raising taxes on the rich had NO EFFECT whatsoever in the direction of the economy... But eventually around 2000 the tech bubble started to burst just in time for Bush II.
Bush years was up and down, though the economy still chugged along along the coattails of the Tech Bubble Burst.. it was still going along despite 9/11/2001 on the new bubble based on bad loans.. the Housing Bubble, where we saw everyone clamoring for real estate and even buying it up and flipping it... All this on the basis that "it's Real Estate.. it NEVER goes down in price..." Unfortunately, that bubble burst and put our economy on a downward spiral. Tax cuts for the rich DID NOT HAVE ANY AFFECT on this..
But as far as the unemployed today goes, we ,unfortunately, simply cannot support them on and on and on.. They have already received 7 extensions and we simply don't have the money to throw at it and get nothing accomplished. Throwing money at the unemployed may give them money, but it DOES NOT give them jobs..
If you want to keep on believing that Republicans are anti-american workers, than you are mistaken them with the Democrats who want add and keep more non-Americans in the workforce via Illegal Immigration, but you don't want to see that because it puts a bad light on your Gods in the Democratic Party.
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Neither party cares about the average worker one way or the other, outside of preying on their preconceived notions to win elections.
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PDR,
If everyone was able to say this, we wouldn't have these cyclical arguments all the time.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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If everyone was able to say this, we wouldn't have these cyclical arguments all the time.
well the problem is that you have people like mac who are too entrenched in their party's gods..
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I am unemployed in Central Florida with a B.S. in Marketing and I have over 4 years of post college business experience. This is heartbreaking. My savings is dwindling while it seems like my bills are going up - and I'm trying to trim them down. I can't find any suitable type of work anywhere in Central Florida. I'm underqualified, I'm overqualified - I have heard it all. Just remember, there are other dawgtalkers out there that are in dire straights.
I completely understand, same thing happened to me. I couldn't find anything in Ohio, I still can't. So after 4 months of working in Wyoming, I am now working in Missouri. You have to break out of your comfort zone in these times.
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I am unemployed in Central Florida with a B.S. in Marketing and I have over 4 years of post college business experience. This is heartbreaking. My savings is dwindling while it seems like my bills are going up - and I'm trying to trim them down. I can't find any suitable type of work anywhere in Central Florida. I'm underqualified, I'm overqualified - I have heard it all. Just remember, there are other dawgtalkers out there that are in dire straights.
Then move!! Look elsewhere for your employment. I've done it before.
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I am unemployed in Central Florida with a B.S. in Marketing and I have over 4 years of post college business experience. This is heartbreaking. My savings is dwindling while it seems like my bills are going up - and I'm trying to trim them down. I can't find any suitable type of work anywhere in Central Florida. I'm underqualified, I'm overqualified - I have heard it all. Just remember, there are other dawgtalkers out there that are in dire straights.
Then move!! Look elsewhere for your employment. I've done it before.
Best thing that ever happened to me - job wise that is - was getting fired from a job I was good at, and thought I loved.
Having been fired, I found a job...........that I hated. And then what I do know found me. (I can't say I found it - it found me). Haven't been happier, job wise, in my life.
It is getting tough though. And it will get tougher I'm sure.
Losing a job isn't anything. After all, no matter who you are, you were looking for a job when you got the last one, weren't you?
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I am unemployed in Central Florida with a B.S. in Marketing and I have over 4 years of post college business experience. This is heartbreaking. My savings is dwindling while it seems like my bills are going up - and I'm trying to trim them down. I can't find any suitable type of work anywhere in Central Florida. I'm underqualified, I'm overqualified - I have heard it all. Just remember, there are other dawgtalkers out there that are in dire straights.
Then move!! Look elsewhere for your employment. I've done it before.
Sorry Erik but that is just silly. It sounds great, but it really is silly. If there were a lot of unemployed people in Central Florida moving would be a solution, but you can't just tell everyone everywhere to move...there has to be a place with a ton of open jobs hiring people in order to make sense to move.
The good news is jobs are opening up, it may take awhile to really make an impact but it is happening.
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The good news is jobs are opening up, it may take awhile to really make an impact but it is happening.
I'm curious as to where you get this info.
Jobs are NOT opening up. Jobs are getting tougher to find.
Partly due to the tax increase everyone will see - well, half of us will see - in Jan. And partly due to the health care bill.
Jobs are NOT increasing - unless you count gov't. jobs.
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The good news is jobs are opening up, it may take awhile to really make an impact but it is happening.
I'm curious as to where you get this info.
Jobs are NOT opening up. Jobs are getting tougher to find.
Partly due to the tax increase everyone will see - well, half of us will see - in Jan. And partly due to the health care bill.
Jobs are NOT increasing - unless you count gov't. jobs.
1) More jobs available means jobs are opening up, it is silly to discredit them because they are government jobs, low paying... I could see if they were all temporary, like Census jobs. But businesses are starting to hire now.
2) My comment is based on the fact that my 'network' is starting to hire, starting to get hired, know of jobs that are starting to fill. Does this mean it is all over...no. But it does mean that while telling someone to move to get a job is silly now there is hope that some areas will be opening up soon and employing again.
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Sorry Erik but that is just silly. It sounds great, but it really is silly.
How is it silly? If you are unable to find work where you live, you have to go to where you can find work. Why do you think the mexicans come here? They can't find work where they are. I've done it. I was unable to find employment for almost a year after the tech crash in 2002. The DC area was flooded with people that worked in my field, and there were 10,000s of them out of work. I has applied for positions that were as far away as 2 hours from my home, but the competition was so great that no one would hire someone from that far away. It was the worse employers market I've ever seen.
I gave up. I sold my house, found someone that would rent me a home without a job, and moved to a better area. I paid a year's rent up front, and eventually found employment in a better market. Yes, it was a huge risk, but I would have lost my home before too much longer anyway. I liked that house.
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Perhaps where you live businesses are hiring - if so, that's great!!
Overall, in the country? Businesses are not hiring. They are still cutting back.
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Perhaps where you live businesses are hiring - if so, that's great!!
Overall, in the country? Businesses are not hiring. They are still cutting back.
That was the point I was making to Erik in a way, in a widespread job issue simply moving won't put you in an area to find work.
However my statement on jobs picking up was simply based on many recruiters in several areas around the nation who are seeing more of a demand for workers. Not every sector has begun, but a some have. What technically means jobs are opening up.
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How is it silly? If you are unable to find work where you live, you have to go to where you can find work. Why do you think the mexicans come here? They can't find work where they are. I've done it. I was unable to find employment for almost a year after the tech crash in 2002. The DC area was flooded with people that worked in my field, and there were 10,000s of them out of work. I has applied for positions that were as far away as 2 hours from my home, but the competition was so great that no one would hire someone from that far away. It was the worse employers market I've ever seen.
2002 was a different time. Unemployment never went above 6%, which is at the high end of what is considered "healthy" unemployment. There were enough jobs nationwide (in general, not in a specific sector) to go around.
Today, there aren't enough jobs to go around for everyone.
14.6 million unemployed.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
3.2 million job openings.
http://www.bls.gov/jlt/
You can move all around the country, be willing to do anything, and be willing to take a huge pay cut, but all this doesn't change the numbers. I know unemployment will never go to zero, but even if we want to take it to 5%, we would have to employ 7 million people with only 3.2 million job openings.
This is why there is a big push to extend unemployment; what else are people who are left without a job going to do? The government can either hire people who there isn't a job for, or send them a minimum wage unemployment check. It's likely cheaper to just send them a check.
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I am unemployed in Central Florida with a B.S. in Marketing and I have over 4 years of post college business experience. This is heartbreaking. My savings is dwindling while it seems like my bills are going up - and I'm trying to trim them down. I can't find any suitable type of work anywhere in Central Florida. I'm underqualified, I'm overqualified - I have heard it all. Just remember, there are other dawgtalkers out there that are in dire straights.
Then move!! Look elsewhere for your employment. I've done it before.
Sorry Erik but that is just silly. It sounds great, but it really is silly. If there were a lot of unemployed people in Central Florida moving would be a solution, but you can't just tell everyone everywhere to move...there has to be a place with a ton of open jobs hiring people in order to make sense to move.
The good news is jobs are opening up, it may take awhile to really make an impact but it is happening.
Lex there is no place with a ton of jobs and what Erik is saying is not that everybody in Central Florida should move. What he is saying is that individuals need to be prepared to move, they need to be as flexible as they can in what they will do and where they will do it. His degree is in marketing, maybe there is a good marketing job in Atlanta or Charlotte or Mobile... maybe an engineer from Charlotte might have to move to Central Florida to find a job....
Nobody is debating its tough right now, extremely tough, but his comment about living and looking in Central Florida made it seem like that is the only place he was willing to look for a job... Neither I, nor anybody else, can tell a person how flexible they need to be but the more flexible you can be the greater your chances.
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In his defense, if he is in marketing, then besides NYC or LA, I think Orlando would be a great place to be when it turns, as I would think Orlando would be a mecca for marketing jobs with all the tourism there.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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In his defense, if he is in marketing, then besides NYC or LA, I think Orlando would be a great place to be when it turns, as I would think Orlando would be a mecca for marketing jobs with all the tourism there.
Maybe it is, maybe it is also saturated with other people looking for jobs who think that way.. I don't really know one way or the other... the purpose of my comment was not to imply that I know what the answer is or where there is a job for him.. my comment was that if he is limiting himself to Central Florida, for whatever reason, then he is going to have a harder time than if he could open that up to other parts of Florida, the Southeast, the east coast, etc...
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Lex there is no place with a ton of jobs and what Erik is saying is not that everybody in Central Florida should move.
If there isn't a place where employment is likely then moving may be a bad choice, don't you think. The advice isn't strong advice to give to someone without a lot of background knowledge of the situation. (Which Erik may have to be fair)
It may be good for a single person in a starter home that didn't make a lot of money and is in a field that may rebound early. You may be able to sell your home quickly, more expensive homes may take a lot longer to move...if at all. Selling your home and relocating may be the worst scenario, compared to contacting the company that has your mortgage and seeking hardship assistance.
If you move to an area where you have better support, the idea isn't as bad...but that really doesn't fit the 'Then move!' advice as much as "Move to somewhere where you have better contacts". In certain areas of the country I know people who can offer input, advice and maybe even ideas of what positions are opening up first. Some people may only get that type of help from friends and family where they live...and moving may make it more difficult for them to get any information/support. And with the use of the internet a person can find a job elsewhere with out the need to 'just move'. Perhaps 'Broaden the area of your job search' would have been better advice, or "Look into moving to Atlanta, they have marketing positions open" would have hit me better than "Then Move!" I guess.
Edit: To be fair and clear, this is obviously opinion. It worked for Erik so it sounds like a good idea to him.
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Lex, you are reading way too much into my comments. I'm not telling anybody to move without a job lined up. From his original post I took it to mean that he was only looking for a job in Central Florida... if he is and he has a reason for doing that then fine... but if he can broaden his search, he increases his odds of finding something... that's it, that is the beginning and the end of my "advice".. be as flexible as you can and broaden your search as much as you can.... 
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Do you people really think I moved without researching the situation? The job market was dead for people in my field in DC. I'm a network engineer. In late 2001 through 2002, Sprint, AOL, Nortel, Cable&Wireless, Telus, MCI Worldcom, Alcatel, Lucent, and even Cisco laid people off in the DC area. MCI Worldcom closed it's doors and kicked out everyone. There were ads in the paper for CCIEs (Cisco's PHd of networking) offering $30K. CCIEs usually make 100K just for having that cert. The market was completely an employer's market.
I did my research, and moved to an area chock full of military bases. The economy works differently around the military. They are insulated against unemployment due to a resession, due to the need of contractors and the money the contractors and military spend. Was the economy as bad as it is now? In my field, I'd say yes. I had to move to find employment, but I already had plenty of resumes out and a few interviews in my new area. If you think I'm telling you to pack up the cats and pick a direction, you'd be stupid if you took that advice.
If you are unable to find employment and are to the point that you might lose everything, it's time to make a stand. Either reinvent yourself into a new profession, or find where your current profession is thriving. I considered everything from moves out of the country, to contracting out of the country, to contracting across the country, bringing my family (5 kids, 3 dogs, 1 wife), or living in a hole and sending them money. The government won't be able to pay your bills forever, and they will eventually find a way to kick you off their pursestrings. You'd better find the best way to take care of you and your's while you can still afford to change things in your life.
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Eric and DC apologies if I ruffled feathers, to me the last two replies sound more helpful. I took the earlier messages as "No jobs where you live then move" as pointless as there are no jobs in a lot of areas.
And I agree that sometimes you need to 'reinvent' yourself, while I just got a new job in my field I am also going to learn Spanish to alllow me to open more doors and find hopefully more stable jobs. (And most likely me learning Spanish will then cause the demand in this country to plummet...)
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AT LONG LAST RELIEF
Unemployment Extension Bill Clears Hurdle, Standoff Likely Over Until November
The Senate voted 60-40 on Tuesday to move forward with reauthorizing unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless, 2.5 million of whom have missed checks since the end of May as Republicans and conservative Democrats filibustered several bills to renew the aid. After a final Senate vote, the bill goes to the House, which will vote on Wednesday.
"It shouldn't take a supermajority to help families afford the bare necessities while unemployment is rising," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) after the vote. "It shouldn't take the slimmest of margins to do what is right."
Defeating the filibuster clears an easy path toward the president's desk this week. People who missed checks will be paid retroactively; people who exhausted all weeks of benefits available before the lapse will not get anything.
The great debate pitting deficit reduction against jobless aid is over -- until November, when it is certain to return. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Monday that the president will push for an additional extension of benefits when the current one expires shortly after the midterm congressional elections.
"I think it is fair and safe to assume that we are not going to wake up and find ourselves at the end of November at a rate of employment one would not consider to be an emergency," Gibbs said, in one of the most affirmative statements from Democrats about their plans for the next lapse in benefits.
Historically, Congress has never allowed federally-funded extended benefits to lapse when the national unemployment rate has been above 7.2 percent. The current rate is 9.5 percent, and few projections show it coming down any time soon.
Republicans in the Senate, along with Nebraska Democrat Ben Nelson, had blocked the bill because its $33 billion cost was not "paid for." For 49 days after the benefits lapsed, Republicans and Nelson complained that deficit spending would worsen the economy, and many wondered whether extended benefits don't actually make people too lazy to look for work -- though the official line from Republicans has been that the cost of the benefits needed to be offset by taking funds from the 2009 stimulus bill.
"Republicans support extending benefits to the unemployed," said Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), the Republican leader in the Senate. "As the president himself said yesterday, we've repeatedly voted for similar bills in the past. And we are ready to support one now. What we do not support -- and we make no apologies for -- is borrowing tens of billions of dollars to pass this bill at a time when the national debt is spinning completely out of control."
Maine Republicans Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins joined Democrats in breaking the filibuster; Ben Nelson stuck with the GOP. Democrats' previous attempt failed by one vote after the death of Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) in June. His replacement, Carte Goodwin, gave the Democrats the 60 votes they needed.
The lapse caused plenty of anxiety and hardship for people who've been out of work for more than six months. "What a shame that it had to drag on so long, especially in light of the fact that it was only a matter of time before it was passed," said Judy Conti, a lobbyist with the National Employment Law Project. "Even retroactive checks won't make up for the people who have had their cars repossessed in the last month, who have been evicted from their apartments or houses, or who have faced other atrocities because of this unconscionable delay."
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"I think it is fair and safe to assume that we are not going to wake up and find ourselves at the end of November at a rate of employment one would not consider to be an emergency," Gibbs said, in one of the most affirmative statements from Democrats about their plans for the next lapse in benefits.
Good, they have 4 months to figure out what to cut and how to pay for it.. or I fully expect to have this same argument again.
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How about just using some unspent stimulus money? Afterall Pelossi said extending unemployment was a stimulus.
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They need to hold onto that unspent stimulus money so they do their best to flood the market with it in 2011 to try to buy votes... errrr... I mean ... stimulate the economy. Sorry, I just like this bumper sticker.. 
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Apparently O is already conceding that the gov't. can't create jobs no matter how much they steal from workers - as in, "...he will push for an additional extension once this one runs out".
Hell, before you know it, we'll all be on unemployment.
What about the half of the "stimulus" money that hasn't been spent yet?????????????? You know, the "stimulus" package that absolutely, positively needed to be passed within 24 hours????
Anyone remember that? And yet, here, almost a year and a half later, the money hasn't been spent - half of it that is - to stimulate anything.
How stupid does O, and congress, think we are? Oh, I know, there's a lot of stupid people - but come on.
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We sure could use those millions of manufacturing jobs lost, outsourced, off-shored...to China and other slave labor wage countries... during the GWBush years...couldn't we?
The country is paying the price for 8 years of GOP/GWBush trickle down (on) economics. High unemployment and the loss of millions of manufacturing jobs has hit the backbone of the American economy...the working/middle class.
As for paying for future unemployment benefits...those Bush tax cuts will be expiring at the end of this year.
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We sure could use those millions of manufacturing jobs lost, outsourced, off-shored...to China and other slave labor wage countries... during the GWBush years...couldn't we?
Sure could. But anyone with half a brain realizes Bush didn't export the jobs. Now, nafta, on the other hand.........sure played a huge part, didn't it?
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The country is paying the price for 8 years of GOP/GWBush trickle down (on) economics. High unemployment and the loss of millions of manufacturing jobs has hit the backbone of the American economy...the working/middle class.
Bush didn't help a whole lot - although the tax cuts to every tax paying citizen definitely prevented things from being worse.
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As for paying for future unemployment benefits...those Bush tax cuts will be expiring at the end of this year.
Those tax cuts have nothing to do with unemployment. Are you that dense? Honestly? Do you think employees pay unemployment insurance tax?
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Now, nafta, on the other hand.........sure played a huge part, didn't it?
arch...you do know the "history" of NAFTA?
Which administration came up with and pushed NAFTA?
OR...do you just remember when it was ratified?
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Bush didn't help a whole lot - although the tax cuts to every tax paying citizen definitely prevented things from being worse.
Bush didn't do anything to discourage off-shoring, did he?
Matter of fact, Bush attempted to defend his record of off-shoring American jobs to India and China, did he?
Bush attempted to sell Americans the GOP belief that "service" sector jobs would replace manufacturing jobs. Now we know just how wrong Bush and the GOP were/are...that service sector jobs do not provide enough jobs nor pay a wage that compares to manufacturing type jobs.
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Those tax cuts have nothing to do with unemployment.
I was simply anticipating the GOP argument, that extending unemployment must be paid for. Once Bush's tax cuts expire at the end of the year, rather than extending them, the Dems should use those funds to pay for the extension of unemployment benefits after they expire in Nov.
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arch...you do know the "history" of NAFTA?
Which administration came up with and pushed NAFTA?
OR...do you just remember when it was ratified?
Bush did push it. The thing is it would not have been ratified if Clinton didn't sign off. It would have never happened without Clinton. Are you willing to admit it?
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arch...you do know the "history" of NAFTA?
Which administration came up with and pushed NAFTA?
OR...do you just remember when it was ratified?
Bush did push it. The thing is it would not have been ratified if Clinton didn't sign off. It would have never happened without Clinton. Are you willing to admit it?
The push for NAFTA began under Ronald Reagan...was pushed by BushSr who wanted it ratified before he left office, but ran out of time. Under Clinton, side agreements were made to address the concerns about the environment and from organized labor.
Organized labor was 100% right about NAFTA as were environmentalists. The side agreements Clinton made were not worth the paper they were written on, because they were not enforced by Mexico or the USA.
It sure is great to see Republicans agree that NAFTA was a horrible idea.
Hopefully RWers can now see that "off-shoring" to slave labor countries such as China and India for example...only undermines the strength of the US economy.
The loss of the manufacturing jobs hurts America's middle/working class...when America's middle/working class lose jobs, it damages the entire United States economy.
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But one day you people will stop pointing fingers at the other sides politicians and trying to defend your own sides politicians,and come to realize that they have ALL played a part in screwing us all. Not the Dems,not the Repubs, ALL of them.
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As usual you are unable to lay blame on a Democrat. Go figure.
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I would just like to point out that all of us do not always point fingers at the other side. I am more then happy to post my displeasure with anyone i have an issue with no matter what party they are from or if I voted for them or not.
Mac is just our whipping boy because all he does is take shots at Republicans, even if democrats vote with them. What is worse is how he feels any ill in this country (like racism) is due to right wingers. By right wingers he means anyone who is the slightest bit conservative. Since he doesn't understand the difference between conservatives and Republicans he lumps Libertarians in as Republicans
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the loss of manufacturing jobs hurts
I hope you realize that manufacturing jobs have been leaving the US even before Bush II took office, right?
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the loss of manufacturing jobs hurts
I hope you realize that manufacturing jobs have been leaving the US even before Bush II took office, right?
Hell no he doesn't understand that - haven't you seen his posts? To say that would be saying that a dem. (clinton) saw jobs leaving, and there's no way in hell mac says something bad about a dem.
On a side note, once the tax increases take effect - well, maybe 6 months after - I can't wait to see the headlines: "Jobs Plummet" "Unemployment Skyrockets"..........yet old macie will be happy.
He's one of those "screw what's good for the country, I want to punish people that make more than me" kind of people.
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the loss of manufacturing jobs hurts
I hope you realize that manufacturing jobs have been leaving the US even before Bush II took office, right?
Hell no he doesn't understand that - haven't you seen his posts? To say that would be saying that a dem. (clinton) saw jobs leaving, and there's no way in hell mac says something bad about a dem.
On a side note, once the tax increases take effect - well, maybe 6 months after - I can't wait to see the headlines: "Jobs Plummet" "Unemployment Skyrockets"..........yet old macie will be happy.
He's one of those "screw what's good for the country, I want to punish people that make more than me" kind of people.
I have no problem with higher taxes on the better off, but only in economic boom times. It will not work now though.
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Sadly, it's probably because he was raised that way and never thought for himself, like many people in this country are politically.......
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