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I just posted them so he could see them in case there was something wrong with his system.


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Those are the 3 from above ...... just in case anyone wonders.

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• Offensive lineman Joel Reinders stood on the sidelines in a walking boot.

This was news to me. I hope for his sake it's not too serious


• Leading receiver on the day was tight end Evan Moore, who caught six passes for 62 yards from Wallace, including those of 15 and 10 yards.

• Josh Cribbs played one play at safety and said there might be more where that came from. He blitzed and said he would've gotten to the quarterback if it were a game.




Cribbs @ Safety,.....I didn't see that one coming. Maybe he can punt too

The more I hear about Moore, the more I am starting to think he could be an integral part of our offense, maybe even our leading pass catcher.

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The more I hear about Moore, the more I am starting to think he could be an interracial part of our offense, maybe even our leading pass catcher.







Integral, perhaps?

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Integral, perhaps?



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• Offensive lineman Joel Reinders stood on the sidelines in a walking boot.

This was news to me. I hope for his sake it's not too serious




They are preparing his "season ending injury" so he can work for a year without being exposed.

Watch a trip to the IR coming up any day now ......


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There were a bunch on the sidelines. others included...
Coleman, Schaffering, Rodgers, Hillis, Bowens, Francies, Zastudil and Hardesty


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• Offensive lineman Joel Reinders stood on the sidelines in a walking boot.

This was news to me. I hope for his sake it's not too serious




They are preparing his "season ending injury" so he can work for a year without being exposed.

Watch a trip to the IR coming up any day now ......




LOL.....you took the words right out of my mouth


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Same here


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SI.com has dispatched writers to report on the 32 NFL training camps across the country. Here's what Damon Hack had to say about Browns camp in Berea, Ohio, which he visited on Aug. 6. For an archive of all camp postcards, click here.

Setting the Scene
"Is it Buh-RAY-A or Buh-REE-A?" I ask the man in the hotel parking lot. "It's Buh-REE-A," he says. I thank him and point my rental Fusion toward the home of the Browns and the Cuyahoga County Fair, the latter which began in 1893. A sign on Bagley Road says that the Pink Floyd tribute band "Wish You Were Here" will be playing the fair this year. Between Pink Floyd and the fluorescent cotton candy, it might be fun to stick around town for a few days. I could catch the Hall of Fame game in Canton and the PGA Tour in Akron, too. In the meantime, I continue onto Lou Groza Boulevard for a peek at the Browns.

Three Observations
1. The Browns are a happy bunch, pulling in the same direction for a change. A year ago, in Eric Mangini's first training camp with the team, that was not always the case, as some players questioned his tough coaching tactics and the team opened the season 1-11. "Often times there's a case where you get to know somebody and you need to understand why they do things and you get more comfortable in any relationship," Mangini said. Added linebacker D'Qwell Jackson: "It's familiarity and stability. You know what to expect from the guy. Last year's team was a combination of Romeo's [Crennel] guys and [Mangini's] guys. This year we have a better fit of his style of player. I feel good about this year." A lot of the smiles began last season, when the Browns ripped off four wins to close the season, a run that team president Mike Holmgren says showed a lot about Mangini. "Often times when you're having a season like that, all of the sudden the bags are packed, the cars are running, and they're playing it out," Holmgren said. "That didn't happen here. That told you a lot. That's a credit to Eric, his coaching staff and certainly the players." Mangini gave the Browns a day off from practice Tuesday, earlier than he did last summer. "It was lovely," said linebacker David Bowens.

2. Linebackers are crucial to the success of any a 3-4 defense, and the Browns are piecing together a feisty, intelligent corps. In March, they signed free-agent Scott Fujita, who played outside linebacker for the Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints. In April, they traded for Philadelphia Eagle Chris Gocong (along with cornerback Sheldon Brown). "One of the things that you need is smart guys," Mangini said. "You need to be able to adjust and you need to get everybody lined up. Chris was a guy I liked in college. Scott was a I guy I kind of followed. Two really bright guys that are talented coming into the system and have played multiple positions. Then you can mix and match. David Bowens has played inside and out. Eric Barton's played Mike and Will. [Jason] Trusnik's played inside and out." Mangini also pointed out Matt Roth, whom the Browns signed off of waivers. "He's like the enforcer in hockey," Mangini said. "I'm excited about that group."

3. If the Browns are going to win in the bruising AFC North, they have to run the football effectively. Cleveland didn't score a rushing touchdown until the 13th game of the 2009 season. Odds are, it's coming much earlier in 2010. After releasing Jamal Lewis in February and drafting Montario Hardesty in April, the Browns were left with an intriguing mix of runners and plenty of competition for carries. "One thing I learned from this league is, don't expect anything," running back Jerome Harrison said when asked if he thought he earned the starting spot last season. "After last year was over, it was over."

One thing Harrison said he wants to see carryover in 2010 is the play of the offensive line at the end of the year. "That was a huge finish for us," Harrison said. "My offensive line dominated across the board, from tight ends all the way to the backside guard. I think we are ahead of schedule. I think we're on pace and I think we have a real good feel for each other now."

New Face, New Place
The Browns brought in veteran Jake Delhomme to calm a quarterback position that has been unsettled and unproductive. Can Delhomme, at 35 and coming off an 8 TD, 18 interception campaign in Carolina, still get it done? Is he out to prove critics wrong? "That's not something that makes me get up every day," Delhomme said. "I've been a part of successful teams in the NFL, I know what it takes, and I want to be part of a winner again. I want to be a part of helping to turn this around." The Browns believe his 2010 season was an aberration rather than a sign of decline. "I know that he's a consistent performer and I believe that's what we'll see as opposed to some of what we saw last year," Mangini said. "In watching the tape, there were more picks than touchdowns and it was a high number, but there are a lot of reasons why a ball gets intercepted. You're behind, protection, running the wrong route, there are a lot of asterisks next to some of those [interceptions]."

Rookie report
While the starters won't be named for awhile, cornerback Joe Haden, the seventh pick over all, may push veteran Sheldon Brown (from the Eagles) and Eric Wright (in his fourth season in Cleveland) for playing time. He could also end up seeing time in the nickel package and on special teams. "Ever since I've been here I knew the expectations were going to be for me to be on the field and play," Haden said. "Ever since the first rookie minicamp, I've been trying to work hard and show that I deserve to be here."

Haden says if his duties extend to kickoff and punt teams, he will be ready. "Coach [Urban] Meyer had his best players on special teams, so I played every special teams when I was there," he said. On inking his rookie contract, Haden said: "Now that I have the money, I'm just trying to show that I deserve the money, too."

Hardesty, who earned huge praise during minicamps, tweaked his right knee during the rookie portion of training camp and has yet to return to practice.

Memorable Image
I've been to many NFL offices, but Mike Holmgren's might be the tops. You could land an Embraer jet in there, for starters. It's big. Then there are the details. A huge picture of Cleveland Browns stadium, lit up at night, on one wall. A huge picture of Holmgren and the Packers winning Super Bowl XXXI on another wall. My favorite touch was a bank of shelves with three NFL team helmets. From bottom to top, the Packers, the Seahawks and the Browns - Holmgren's last three NFL stops.

On the Menu
The Browns provided us reporters with Caesar salad wraps, potato chips, chocolate chip cookies and a refrigerator stocked with soft drinks. I limited myself to one wrap, one bag of chips, two cookies, a Diet Pepsi, and a promise to have a vigorous week at the gym.

Parting shots
1. The versatile Josh Cribbs expects to line up all over the field this season -- including under center. "My role is just going to expand dramatically," he said. "A lot of things are going to happen where me and Seneca [Wallace] and Jake are all rotating and hopping in and out of there. We added a lot of diversity to the offense."

2. Losing Braylon Edwards -- despite his drops -- leaves the Browns' receiving corps with questions. Mohamed Massaquoi, Brian Robiske and Chansi Stuckey must answer them.

3. David Bowens on playing in the AFC North: "Snowy games. Everyone in our division has a cold game. It's not like we have to travel far. We're all in each other's backyard. We're all in the same gated community."






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Odd...they work for me. They did last night because I read them when they were posted and still work this morning.


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The PFT links still do not work for me, even with YTown reposting them. I've tried two different browsers, their server rejects the URL in each case.




Purp,.....Speaking of problems with links and sites.

I can't pull up the Browns home page. It says I need iframes, yet I have the Roster separately book marked and it allows me to load the page???

still is weird that it worked for some and not for others......I can only speculate that it might be a security issue with the browser settings???


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It's good to read an outsiders perspective.

"The Browns are a happy bunch"

So much of football is emotion and attitude and I hope it will translate to the field.

I love the quote where Mangini said that Roth was the enforcer of the group.

Our first couple games I think on paper are win able, but if we are without Rodgers and Smith for those games.
Then I have concerns that the defense can be exploited, because other then Rubin there is a definite drop off in talent there with the Dawgs.


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It's good to read an outsiders perspective.

"The Browns are a happy bunch"

So much of football is emotion and attitude and I hope it will translate to the field.

I love the quote where Mangini said that Roth was the enforcer of the group.

Our first couple games I think on paper at least are win able, but if we are without Rodgers and Smith for those games.
Then I have concerns that the defense can be exploited, because other then Rubin there is a definite drop off in talent there with the Dawgs.


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I wouldnt say that...but the depth would definitely be lacking...however...

I think a DL of Coleman, Rubin, and Mosley would be quite serviceable for a few games...the depth would be bad though, Schaefering? Danso? Geathers? who else is there?


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That line will/would get dominated. Mosely is awful, and Coleman isn't great by any means.

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i think they could tread water for a time...

Coleman and Mosley are both well versed in Mangini's system, and Rubin is great in the middle...also, i think our LBs could mask the weaknesses to a point for those two...

I think with Rubin at NT the DL would look better than youd expect


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You vastly overrate both our linebackers and all of our defensive linemen. Rubin is far from an elite nose tackle, and even the best nose in NFL history couldn't make those ends look good.

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I think if we can run the ball even effectively ... then we will have a defensive front seven that will be GREAT when they arent as tired .. heck we could look dominant if we were fresh and only had the D on the field 20 minutes a game ...


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You vastly overrate both our linebackers and all of our defensive linemen. Rubin is far from an elite nose tackle, and even the best nose in NFL history couldn't make those ends look good.




either that or you vastly underate them...


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Don't know about you guys, but I would love to have heard the conversation between Mangini and McDonald after that flip........you KNOW it was addressed, I actually wouldn't be surprised if some veteran players had the talk instead of Mangini.

Curious as to your guys opinion.


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Article on B-Mac
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Here's a not so flattering article on BMac. Seriously why doesn't he keep his mouth shut?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/terrell-owens-amused-by-twitter-trash-talk

T.O. amused by profane Twitter war

Terrell Owens said he had no idea that Brandon McDonald was a Cleveland Browns cornerback.

He does now.

On his Twitter account, McDonald posted an obscenity-filled message about Owens 12 days ago after the wide receiver had agreed to contract terms with the Cincinnati Bengals.

The post reads: "TO to da Bengals huh??? Yessss, another piece of p**** fa da Browns secondary to (slang term referring to either group sex or gang rape) ... Let's Goooo!!!! ITS TRU"

While not relayed the exact message, a reporter asked Owens on Sunday morning whether he had heard about the trash-talking tweet McDonald had sent. Owens initially responded "Who?" before adding "I don't even know who he is. Is he Ronald McDonald?"

"I really don't care if he has something to say," said Owens, who will face McDonald in Cleveland in Week 4 of the regular season. "Obviously, you have to back it up. I'm not afraid of competition, a challenge or whatever. We play the Browns so he'll see us ... I'm not worried about it."

Entering his fourth NFL season, McDonald started 10 of 16 games in 2009 for the Browns. One of those starts came against Buffalo when Owens was playing for the Buffalo Bills. Owens caught four passes for 44 yards in a 6-3 Bills loss. Owens also played for Dallas against the Browns with McDonald as a starter in 2008. Owens caught five passes for 87 yards with one touchdown in a 28-10 Cowboys win.

McDonald's account is verified with Twitter and filled with re-posts and messages from Browns teammates. Most teams warn NFL players about the use of Twitter and what should be posted in a public setting. New York Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie was fined $2,500 last year when playing for San Diego because he complained about the team's "nasty food" during training camp.

A Browns spokesman declined comment on McDonald's tweet. McDonald wasn't immediately available for comment Sunday through agent J.R. Rickert.

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McDonald is just another clueless athlete. He'll be lucky if he's a Brown in a months time.
Roger Goodell has to start taking computers away from some of these goofs.


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Geesh...

I am told that when B-mac had his pick six yesterday, he kinda jumped or flipped into the endzone and when asked about it, mangini said he doesn't go for that and will have a conversation later.

Mangini isn't going to like this action either.. neither will Holmgren.. B-mac did a good think with the pick but then follows it up with childish actions..

Grow up B-mac...


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I will be amazedif B Mac is here at the beginning of the season. This isnt the first time he has opened his mouth and shoved his foot in it. He is immature and definetly not a Mangini player

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I will be amazedif B Mac is here at the beginning of the season. This isnt the first time he has opened his mouth and shoved his foot in it. He is immature and definetly not a Mangini player




He embarrasses himself on Twitter. Would be nice if he could spell the majority of his words correctly...ITS TRU. (as he says it)

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I remember a couple years ago when he was benched after being beat constantly. He was a rookie sitting on the bench with a skull cap with "shutdown" written on it. The guy is a joke IMO. He has had good games to a certain extent, but to me he is not that good.


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yeah he sounds like an idiot, but..... he's a hell of a number 4 corner. he WAS our number 2.

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yeah he sounds like an idiot, but..... he's a hell of a number 4 corner. he WAS our number 2.




and there it is,, he's under contract.. a cheap one by NFL standards and he's a pretty good CB as long as you aren't asking him to be your number 1 or 2.

he'll be here unless he really blows up..


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Like Lawson blowing up and getting arrested for DUI, hit and run.


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Like Lawson blowing up and getting arrested for DUI, hit and run.




Yeah, like that. Exactly


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Like Lawson blowing up and getting arrested for DUI, hit and run.




I thought you were making a point that McDonald would need another DB to do something stupid to hang on to a job... until I saw that Lawson really did get arrested for DUI and hit-and-run.


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Like Lawson blowing up and getting arrested for DUI, hit and run.




I thought you were making a point that McDonald would need another DB to do something stupid to hang on to a job... until I saw that Lawson really did get arrested for DUI and hit-and-run.




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Terrell Owens said he had no idea that Brandon McDonald was a Cleveland Browns cornerback.


Neither did I...

While not relayed the exact message, a reporter asked Owens on Sunday morning whether he had heard about the trash-talking tweet McDonald had sent. Owens initially responded "Who?" before adding "I don't even know who he is. Is he Ronald McDonald?"


No just a egg McMuffin.. hey dude ..guess what?
At some point you're going to have to make a play on TO..and I know whats going to happen..I know McDonald's doesn't serve french toast but I suspect you will be..

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My friend was the reporter who asked T.O. the question.

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Yay?


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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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