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There are a couple of legitimate reasons to get McCoy into live action before this year is up
Aside from Preseason or *perhaps* garbage time in a complete blowout... I don't see a reason at all. Wallace is the #2, if anyone will need the additional time, it is him. McCoy is a 3rd stringer; he doesn't need it, he's going to be busy as hell watching Wallace run the scout team.
At this point in his career, where Wallace is now 30 (happy birthday, Senneca) he's about as good as he's going to get. He represents the present, not the future. Whether he's a starter or a backup for us, McCoy is part of the future, so getting him work is more important IMHO than Wallace as the year winds down.
Now keep in mind the context of my earlier statement. I said he should get work "before the year is up." My exact meaning is that once we're out of the playoff race and there isn't much to play for other than to get playing time for our younger players, that's when McCoy needs to get into the game. Not only will the coaches need to see how far he's progressed, but it's important for him to get at least a little time under center to get him acclimated to the pro game.
If it's mop-up time early in the year, I'm for Wallace getting those reps. If it's towards the end of the year, I'm for McCoy getting those reps.
I'm certain McCoy will get in the last month or so. I just don't see Holmgren forcing his will onto the organization by demanding McCoy in the 3rd, then not getting him some work during his rookie year on this specific team in this specific situation. Now if we happen to be contending down the stretch, that's a different story.
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While I totally understand your reasoning Toad, and infact it wouldn't suprise me if it happens. I really hope it don't. I really hope Holmgren sticks to his word about Mccoy not playing at all in the regular season this year. The kid needs to red shirt..he is not ready to play in the NFL regular season yet.
McCoy can compete for the starter job/2nd string next year..he needs time to learn, mature, and learn the plays. I am against putting him in this year because he may develop bad habits.
I am not against McCoy getting a lot of playing time in the preseason...he needs the reps there...but Mccoy should only play this year if both Wallace and Dellhomme hurt..otherwise l would prefer Mccoy be left padding the bench this year...
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I just hope that he doesn't get any significant time because he's needed.. If he gets any time, I want it to be to give him a taste.. not that we are relying on him for a boost...
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...once we're out of the playoff race and there isn't much to play for other than to get playing time for our younger players, that's when McCoy needs to get into the game. Not only will the coaches need to see how far he's progressed, but it's important for him to get at least a little time under center to get him acclimated to the pro game.
Under normal circumstances, this may make sense, but in a year where every win counts, the only way I see McCoy taking snaps in a seasonal game is if both Delhomme & Wallace are injured.
Also, given the schedule, and (hopefully) relatively decent play, it may be deep into the season before we are out of the playoff hunt. In other words, we could potentially be 6-6 at the end of the 3rd quarter, and seemingly out of the hunt, yet be 7-7 halfway through the 4th quarter and seemingly still be very much in the hunt. Unlikely as it may seem, starting the 4th quarter at 6-6 puts us very much in the hunt with wins against the Bills & squeelers, and either a win against the cats or the rats. Stranger things have happened in divisional games when the playoffs are on the line.
1st quarter: Bucs, Chiefs, Rats & Cats = potential (IMO most likely) 1-3 or 2-2
2nd quarter: Birds, squeelers, Saints & Pats = potential 1-7, 2-6, 3-5 or 4-4
3rd quarter: Jets, Jags, Panthers & Phins = potential 2-10, 3-9, 4-8, 5-7, or 6-6
4th quarter: Bills, Cats, Rats & squeelers = potential 3-11, 4-12, 5-11, 6-10, 7-9 or 8-8
So given either the best or worst case scenarios, (and anything in between,) no way can Mangini afford to play the rook in the final stretch, (last four games,) when every game matters as far as his job is concerned. IMHO, he doesn't have the luxury of giving McCoy playing time. Not this season.
Now, if by some chance, we have a repeat of two years ago, and both starters go down, then all bets are off and he gets his shot. But Mangini is most likely gone at the end of the season, we draft a QB in the first round, and McCoy's starts end up being back-up duty practice anyway.
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I see a lot of posters saying Mangini will be gone if we don't win a lot of games, but IMO the season would have to be a complete disaster for Mangini to get just one year under Holmgren.
And by "disaster" I don't just mean a scarcity of wins, I mean general dysfunction if not outright chaos, along with no sense that we are moving forward.
Luckily, most of the players who might have poisoned the locker room are now playing in other cities.
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If you remember two years ago, it was a disaster, especially coming off a 10-6 season. I don't want Mangini gone, I think we finally have something here, but I doubt he would fare any better than Romeo if we go 4-12, no matter how well the team plays. I seriously doubt that Holmgren's ego would allow it; scapegoat, press, uninformed fans, and all that.
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I understand where you're coming from, but in my opinion McCoy still needs to SHOW that he's a part of the future before we go giving him to gift of playing time - even in non-playoff garbage time. As it stands, he's still merely just a "maybe"; not "the future".
As it stands right now and for the foreseeable future - Wallace is FAR more a part of our next year and year after than McCoy. McCoy - right now - is just a draft pick that hasn't done a damn thing and hasn't proven a damn thing. He should only get the time he EARNS.
IF McCoy proves himself worthy between now and whenever, then - and ONLY then - could I agree with you.
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I understand where you're coming from, but in my opinion McCoy still needs to SHOW that he's a part of the future before we go giving him to gift of playing time - even in non-playoff garbage time. As it stands, he's still merely just a "maybe"; not "the future".
Hehehe............I'm totally with you on that one. I simply chose not to take the route of whether or not Colt has a future here.  I'd said my peace on that one in the past, and didn't want to go there. 
I'd seen McCoy play plenty here in Austin, but he may look very different surrounded by big boys. As a result, I really want to see him in some live game action before this year ends. I equate him very much to Frye, in that he's a mobile guy who's a "gamer" with a so-so arm that doesn't always throw tight spirals. I didn't like........ok........I HATED.........the selection of Frye, but wanted to see him in live action before I made up my mind he was a dud. When I did see him in live action, it took me no time to decide he was a bum. I want to see how McCoy looks against pro's. I think Holmgren and Co. will feel the same, IF we're not in contention. The situation Cal laid out would negate any feelings I have about him playing. Now would he be ready to look successful at the end of his rookie year? I seriously doubt it. However, McCoy is a guy who played a TON in college, so should be more ready than most guys. Quinn had a ton of experience so was more ready to show what he had early. What I saw of him showed me he wasn't all that. I think McCoy should be ready to go sooner rather than later, not only because of his experience, but because he's got the absolute best WCO guys in the entire league at his disposal.
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I think in our 4 preseason games Delhomme should start one, Wallace should start one, Ratliffe should start one and McCoy should start one and we can say we don't know who the starter is going to be then when the regular season rolls around, the defenses will be guessing and they won't know who to prepare for...
Can't they just use the professional method and flip a coin?
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I think in our 4 preseason games Delhomme should start one, Wallace should start one, Ratliffe should start one and McCoy should start one and we can say we don't know who the starter is going to be then when the regular season rolls around, the defenses will be guessing and they won't know who to prepare for...
Can't they just use the professional method and flip a coin?
Well sure if your gut feeling is undecided, then that is the preferred route.
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I've got a really good feeling about Colt. Dungy's stamp of approval does a bit to enhance those good feelings. I watched his interview (McCoy's) after day one of camp and one thing that jumped out at me was how he spoke of his expectations.
He said that, it's his expectations and the coaches expectations that he works hard, and that he improves with every opportunity he gets be it camp, pre-season or practice, etc. The thing that made me smile was how he didn't dance around it, and say he's going to try or he's going to make an efford. He straight up said that, that is what he was going to do. It's his expectations of himself that he gets better and puts himself in a position to take this team and show what he's capable of.
I really think he could surprise a lot of people. He's a very skilled player and a lot of people knock his arm strength but nothing I've read from camp reports even suggest that as a big issue. I think his rookie year is all about building a rapport with his teammates and learning the system as well as physically improving. If Colt's behind center and he knows he's got the respect of the team he's playing with. I would expect he would fare better than just some rookie being thrown into the wings (aka: Charlie Frye... Tim Couch)
I think McCoy will surprise a lot of people although it's truly too early to tell. Who knows what could happen this season. I think McCoy could get a shot, maybe late in the year if the team feels he's coming along well. I expect McCoy will do his best by his word, work hard to improve while he watches tape, studies the team and learns as much as he can while working to earn his shot at showing everyone he can be the future QB we all want.
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