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Most of the comparisons that I've seen this year are to Jureviscious.... and I'd gladly take that in a heartbeat. Every team could use a Joe J, but this team desperately needs another one.
I'm not being so quick to give up on Robiskie to fill that role. Sure, Moore's got better height and grabs passes off-balance, but Robiskie used his body and positioning about as well as any receiver of the last five years in college. Guy knows how and when to jump, too. I think he'll be solid now that he'll likely see the field consistently this year.
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Most of the comparisons that I've seen this year are to Jureviscious.... and I'd gladly take that in a heartbeat. Every team could use a Joe J, but this team desperately needs another one.
Think Jay Novacek
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I just hope that he has a decent year for us. I'll wait for him to establish himself a little bit more before I break out the comparisons to Ozzie ..... or Joe J ...... or Novacek ...... I mean .. he's got potential ....... but he's still only caught the ball 12 times as a pro ......  Let's let him get to 50 or so before we anoint him .....  lol
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I just hope that he has a decent year for us.
I'll wait for him to establish himself a little bit more before I break out the comparisons to Ozzie ..... or Joe J ...... or Novacek ......
I mean .. he's got potential ....... but he's still only caught the ball 12 times as a pro ......
Let's let him get to 50 or so before we anoint him ..... lol
Okay,.....Let me rephrase.
He has the potential to be the next Jay Novacek.
JJ I think had better speed and was 20 lbs lighter. Yes he did line up in the slot, but to my knowledge he was never lined up @ TE.
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Just a question. If we carry an extra TE, can they be converted or used well in a slot or double slot. Saw us line up and run a toss sweep. So, methinks to meself, maybe some good edge blockers would give us a great corner to run. Moore and Royal look good. Any thoughts? PS I REALLY like the outside running game. It and the TE and vertical passing attack have been gone too long. So keep up the new and improved offense, get a decent dose of some misdirection, and we will be much better than the Three and Out Club we fielded last year.  
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Just a question. If we carry an extra TE, can they be converted or used well in a slot or double slot. Saw us line up and run a toss sweep. So, methinks to meself, maybe some good edge blockers would give us a great corner to run. Moore and Royal look good. Any thoughts?
PS I REALLY like the outside running game. It and the TE and vertical passing attack have been gone too long. So keep up the new and improved offense, get a decent dose of some misdirection, and we will be much better than the Three and Out Club we fielded last year.
Moore could be a good slot receiver....not sure Watson or royal have the quicks to be very effective in that role.
The only problem you have sticking any of them out there with the real intent on being a blocker to seal a edge is it is wide open get get called for a crackback block. Those guys aren't allowed to come back and block from the blind side. They more or less are only allowed to get in the way so you are about as well off having a "traditional" slot player.
Once those guys split out past in-line blocker position, the whole method of blocking changes, taking away much of their blocking ability
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The only problem you have sticking any of them out there with the real intent on being a blocker to seal a edge is it is wide open get get called for a crackback block. Those guys aren't allowed to come back and block from the blind side. They more or less are only allowed to get in the way so you are about as well off having a "traditional" slot player.
Once those guys split out past in-line blocker position, the whole method of blocking changes, taking away much of their blocking ability
That's only half true. The only thing you can't do is block a guy below the waist who's currently engaged by another blocker. I guess you can't block from behind as well but everyone knows that.
But bringing a wideout in motion to seal the OLB or DE to that side happens every single game. And it's legal.
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Thanks, Peen. Not being difficult, but you can make the block legally. Overloading an edge for a numbers mismatch in blockers can gum up flow to the outside. So a "swinging gate" gives you a paper advantage; do not need to block everyone, just the people to seal the edge. The tight end delay straight up field and quick toss type of pitch sweeps seem to favor us. I hope to see more of it. Especially liked the idea of running the bad guys side to side a bunch in the first half so they can't load up the middle so much. But that is old school ball. Appreciate the fine point info as to alignment and what's illegal. Thanx! 
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No doubt it can be done legally..I said it opens you up for more of those calls, and it would as in line blockers are trained from the beginning to be real blockers rather than the mamsy pamsy blocking most receivers perform.
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We've always been rather fortunate with our receivers and their willingness and ability to block in the running game. Hell, even Braylon run blocked fairly well!
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Just wanted to say I met Moore at camp last night and the guy is incredibly nice - signed for just about anyone that wanted his auto and plenty of pictures, esp w/ the kids. He was about to head in and someone yelled for him and 30 mins later he was still out there signing and taking pictures.
I hope he does well b/c it's nice to have guys like that on the team. Just kept saying thanks for coming out to everyone. Realizes that he's in a great situation here and that people actually love to come out to watch them practice.
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It wasn't always like that.
Northcutt, Morgan, KJ, etc.... I would argue that most of them weren't very willing blockers.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Jurevicius always blocked well, Braylon actually blocked amazingly well considering how big of a diva he was, Robiskie is a solid run blocker, Cribbs can lay some good blocks, Furrey could block, those are just off the top of my head real quick.
I didn't say all of our receivers blocked well, just that we seemed to have more receivers who can block than the norm. I think thats true, and we've been lucky. Or maybe its a skill we desire and look for in signing receivers.
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Well, no.. you said "We've always been rather fortunate with our receivers and their willingness and ability to block in the running game."... and I was pointing out that no, we have not always been fortunate like that. It is most definitely a recent development for us.
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Don't forget MoMass. He really impressed me last year with his blocking.
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Jurevicius always blocked well, Braylon actually blocked amazingly well considering how big of a diva he was, Robiskie is a solid run blocker, Cribbs can lay some good blocks, Furrey could block, those are just off the top of my head real quick.
I didn't say all of our receivers blocked well, just that we seemed to have more receivers who can block than the norm. I think thats true, and we've been lucky. Or maybe its a skill we desire and look for in signing receivers.
BE had to do something to earn his paycheck and he did not start off as a willing blocker here if you remember correctly.
It was something he had to learn to except as part of being a receiver here and to his credit he did improve this facet of his game.
I wouldn't go as far as stating that he was a good blocker by any means.....he was a willing blocker, but he was also penalized on a number of occasions for offensive pass interference and holding.
JJ,.....was probably the best blocker as far as WR's go that I can remember on our team, in part due to his size, with Cribbs being a close second imo.
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Northcutt, Morgan, KJ, etc.... I would argue that most of them weren't very willing blockers.
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