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it's tricky though. you want to get back something for it if you can, but you don't want to handcuff yourself with a bad contract just because you felt you had to use it.

teams aren't looking at shedding salaries as much this year, so I'm not sure how valuable it will be.

(it expires exactly 1 year after issue date. so it is available until the trade deadline, and then again from the draft through July 7th)


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It's pretty much deffering a salary dump till next year.

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it's tricky though. you want to get back something for it if you can, but you don't want to handcuff yourself with a bad contract just because you felt you had to use it.

teams aren't looking at shedding salaries as much this year, so I'm not sure how valuable it will be.

(it expires exactly 1 year after issue date. so it is available until the trade deadline, and then again from the draft through July 7th)




However, if we're going to build a young team over the next few years, we could take on a "bad" contract with 3 years left ..... IF we get a bunch of draft picks to go with it.

It does look like teams aren't looking to dump a lot of salaries .... but we can still hope that something works out this year.


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Wow .... watching the Tonight Show, and the Cavaliers have already been the butt of 2 jokes tonight.


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Explain this exemption....I'll be honest, I don't follow the NBA all that much.

I know we got one now that it was mentioned....how does it work??


At any rate, we need picks, and we need to win that lottery.


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It means that we can take on a max salary without having to give anything back even if it puts us over the cap.


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This.

Because salaries have to match in every trade in the NBA, the trade exception is basically money to make those numbers line up. The other thing is, if I'm not mistaken, that it doesn't have to all be used at once.

What's our trade exception...isn't it somewhere in the neighborhood of $14-15 million? Basically they can bring in a player of that salary without giving up anything (other than the future use of the trade exception) in return.

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It means that we can take on a max salary without having to give anything back even if it puts us over the cap.





Thanks.

I assume that exemption lasts as long as the contract of the player brought in under the exemption.


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It means that we can take on a max salary without having to give anything back even if it puts us over the cap.





Thanks.

I assume that exemption lasts as long as the contract of the player brought in under the exemption.




No, it's a one year deal.

The reason we got the exemption is because we lost a top end free agent. Re-signing him would have put us over the cap, but since he was our free agent we could have done it.

The next year we would go back to being over the cap just as we would have before we lost our free agent. (James) (If we would have been over the cap)


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23 in a row. Can we forfeit the rest of the season and save ourselves the embarrassment? It's probably going to be a good 5+ years before we even sniff a .500 season.


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23 in a row. Can we forfeit the rest of the season and save ourselves the embarrassment? It's probably going to be a good 5+ years before we even sniff a .500 season.




Well .... let's get the record for ourselves tonight .....

Man I hope we manage to draft a bunch of great players with high picks, and the extra picks we get from the James trade. I hope we can manage to find new homes for guys like Jamison and Williams, and pick up an extra couple of picks there too. We could even take back a 2 or 3 year "bad" contract with the exemption if we got a few picks with it ... becaue it's going to be at least a few years before we're good.


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I'm watching perry jones.

The guy sucks at rebounding. However he does things you can't teach. He is as good as advertised in athleticism. He should definitely be a SF. He is unselfish but that is also kind of his weakness. When he is aggressive he is hard to stop. His defense is average. Not terrible but he's not a lock down player. He needs to add some muscle and he should be able to rebound better.

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He's still a freshman isn't he?

You can teach a lot of things, but you can't teach size, speed, athleticism, and flat out talent.


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He's still a freshman isn't he?

You can teach a lot of things, but you can't teach size, speed, athleticism, and flat out talent.




Yup.

Thats why we should draft him. Ridiculous potential that is very coachable.

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Right now I just want them to trade Jamison and cut Moon. Then get what you can for Mo Williams. I'm soooooo tired of watching Jamison jack up 3 after 3 and miss a hell of lot more than he is making, that stupid ass toss up shot in the lane kills me also.

Why was Moon on the court last night for so long? Was Manny Harris hurt? Our lineup should be all youth right now, just to see if we have any players for the future instead of watching Jamison, Parker, and Moon!

PG: Ramon Sessions
SG: Manny Harris
SF: Christian Eyenga
PF: Samardo Samuels
C: JJ Hickson

6th: SG Alonzo Gee - Harris slides over to PG
7th: SF Joey Graham
8th: Ryan Hollins / Leon Powe when he comes back healthy soon
9th: Daniel Gibson when healthy
10th: Jamiason, Parker, Moon, and Williams for garbage time

Hell why not, we have lost 23 IN A ROW!!!

How good would we look right now if we had drafted DeJuan Blair and Sam Young like so many of us thought was going to happen that draft night in 2009.

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Heck if we don't like some of our younger players there are plenty of good ones in the NBA D-League:

Terrence Williams 28 ppg, 11 rpg, 10 apg, SG 6'6" 220 lbs Louisville
Joe Alexander 20 ppg, 10 rpg, 3 aspg, PF 6'8" 230 lbs West Virginia

These are just two guys I could see getting a shot, not sure how you can sign one though. Here is the list of top 30 D-League guys:

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/D-League-Prospects/

Don't know why either one of these guys aren't on the list!

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Right now I just want them to trade Jamison ... I'm soooooo tired of watching Jamison jack up 3 after 3 and miss a hell of lot more than he is making, that stupid ass toss up shot in the lane kills me also.




LOL...Jamison is putting up 17 points a game and hitting 35% from outside the arc.

And you want to start 6'9" JJ Hickson, easily the most underachieving player on the roster, at center?

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Im kind of glad the suns suck. Those doushebags should have given us amare. They wouldn't be as screwed as us right now.

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Yeah, would've been nice for Steve Kerr to throw his old team and two-time teammate a bone.

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Right now I just want them to trade Jamison ... I'm soooooo tired of watching Jamison jack up 3 after 3 and miss a hell of lot more than he is making, that stupid ass toss up shot in the lane kills me also.




LOL...Jamison is putting up 17 points a game and hitting 35% from outside the arc.

And you want to start 6'9" JJ Hickson, easily the most underachieving player on the roster, at center?



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I HATE Jamison, and in the grand scheme of things he does not help this team in 2011, 2012, 2013, and beyond except for trading him and getting picks and young players.

And for starting Hickson at C, he already starts there!!! Not my decision, Coach Scott believes he can play there so he does. I've watched the last 4 games from start to finish and he has not been overmatched.

vs L. Aldridge (20 and 10) Hickson 11 and 6
vs M. Gasol (6 and 1) Hickson 31 and 15
vs R. Hibbert (13 and 10) Hickson 10 and 3
vs Z (12 and 14) Hickson 14 and 9

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i read from some nba writer, i think it was one of bspn's, that jamison was the #1 player likely to be traded.

and i ask how? who would take him? he's basically one small injury away from being done for the year, he's not even that good healthy, and he's got one more year of big time money after this one. i would love to see someone take him from the cavs.

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Exactly. Nobody is going to take Jamison because of his age and his contract.

As for JJ, he's starting at center now because the alternative is Ryan Hollins. JJ is not a 5, and should not play any sort of significant time at that position, partially because it doesn't play to his strengths and partially because he cannot defend legit NBA centers (of which Marc Gasol and father time Z are not). Lamarcus Aldridge is a forward and put up 20 and 10. JJ is too undersized and doesn't have the defensive ability of a guy like Kendrick Perkins to make up for his lack of size against 7-footers.

Cavs need a legit NBA starter at the 5.

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Exactly. Nobody is going to take Jamison because of his age and his contract.

As for JJ, he's starting at center now because the alternative is Ryan Hollins. JJ is not a 5, and should not play any sort of significant time at that position, partially because it doesn't play to his strengths and partially because he cannot defend legit NBA centers (of which Marc Gasol and father time Z are not). Lamarcus Aldridge is a forward and put up 20 and 10. JJ is too undersized and doesn't have the defensive ability of a guy like Kendrick Perkins to make up for his lack of size against 7-footers.

Cavs need a legit NBA starter at the 5.




you never draft by need with your first pick in the nba draft, but with the second round pick, they almost are going to have take a big guy.

i'm not saying don't pick a big man with your first pick, with THE first pick, but just take the best player.

i thought we'd have a plethora of picks, but we don't for a little bit. from what i read, we get 2 of miami's 1st round picks. starting in 2013 and ending by 2017, i guess the cavs get to pick when.

we also get a second round pick next year from them.

if things go bad in miami, the 3 all have early termination clauses for 2013, so miami could realistically be downright horrible and the cavs could be sitting unbelievably pretty. i think the possibility of that thing getting ugly has a decent shot. wouldn't bet on it, but i wouldn't call it a longshot either.

something tells me we will make a deadline move or two, so we will probably have a pick or a few picks by the end of the season.

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Yeah, I'm not saying to take a 5 with the first pick (unless he's BPA)...just that the Cavs sorely need one.

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i'm bpa in just about everything, but nba is a no brainer. football i can see drafting for need but i am still bpa guy.

i can't wait for the tournament. on top of ohio state having a good shot to make the final four again, we are going to get a good look at all the great players the cavs are going to have a shot at. they haven't had a top 4 pick since lbj.

doesn't seem like there is any franchise changing players out there, but i am certain there are some all star caliber players who will be out.

i'm hoping the bpa is a point guard. i think it will be the best way to re-do the cavs.

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Heck if we don't like some of our younger players there are plenty of good ones in the NBA D-League:

Terrence Williams 28 ppg, 11 rpg, 10 apg, SG 6'6" 220 lbs Louisville
Joe Alexander 20 ppg, 10 rpg, 3 aspg, PF 6'8" 230 lbs West Virginia

These are just two guys I could see getting a shot, not sure how you can sign one though. Here is the list of top 30 D-League guys:

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/D-League-Prospects/

Don't know why either one of these guys aren't on the list!




I always liked Terrence Williams in college. He was an amazing defender and could finish at the rim in a myriad of ways.

Problem is, something happened in NJ. He had all kinds of trouble, missing games the team didn't feel he was injured, always showing up late, not practicing hard, and the team sent him to D-League.

Now, he's technically on the Rockets 15-man, so we couldn't just sign him. But, I don't even know if he's played in a game with them.

Kid is ridiculously talented, the problem is that you need to have things clear between the ears too and he doesn't seem to have that aspect.


(Joe Alexander looked terrible for the Bucks, but no idea on his present situation)


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I've watched Jones play 3-4 times this year. Everytime he plays better the last. I'm starting to become a believer in him. To me I hope we get one of 3. Jones/Irving are my top with Sullinger being 3rd behind both.


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LOL at Dirk Nowitzki throwing a punch at the back of Ramon Session's head. Real tough guy there.

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25 in a row, a new record. I guess the bright side is were going to set a losing streak so big no other team will ever be able to beat it.


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Atr least the team, as completely outmanned as it is, is still competing.

They had no right being in tonight's game, yet they were.


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I could care less about moral victories. Cleveland just got on the books for another lousy record.


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Look at who we have available to even put on the court right now.

Moral victories are about all we're going to get at this point.


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The dude can root for who he wants - it's a free country, but in the midst of a 25 game losing streak ya mayyy not want to talk about the pain of your Steelers losing the SuperBowl, lol.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2011/02/mark_cuban_to_cleveland_basket.html

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Scott said he wasn't able to make it to the game, but enjoyed watching it on television in Dallas.

"I don't want to talk about it," Scott moaned. "The wrong team won."

Said Cuban: "I was bummed till I got home. Then I said, 'When do the Mavs play?'"

A handful of Mavericks players, including Dirk Nowitzki, attended the game.


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Look at who we have available to even put on the court right now.

Moral victories are about all we're going to get at this point.




I agree. This season has broken down into several "parts" for me so far...

1. Season starts - I'm all in with the team and look at them as "my" team and it's us against the world.
2. December 2nd - The abortion of a game with LeBron back in town revealed the true charachter of a couple guys - namely Anderson and Boobie. And really, Scott. At that point the team completely lost me. I literally have no use for Anderson or Boobie now or any point in the future - they're losers, they're weak - I want them gone now or ASAP.
3. Over the past week or two the team has actually played like they care. The borderline developmental league type talent catches up in the end or you're left with old man river Jamison or Moon taking a shot at the end - that's just never going to work out well. Still, if the team looks like they give a damn and actually play a game I can still watch/pay attention.

We're clearly not winning the Finals this or next year - maybe ever - but as a team act like you care and try as a man and I'll be there. That's all I have right now for this team.

And I will say again - I hope I never see AV in a Cleveland uniform again. Boobie can go ASAP and Williams/Jamison right after that.


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Callin my shot.

The streak ends tonight... Cavs win by 6.


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I am tired of hearing about how bad the Cavs are and this is why Lebron left. How could Cleveland expect him to win with this group. It was all Lebron. Blah, blah, blah. That is all hear on radio, tv and internet blogs.

Seriously, We also lost Shaq, Z, and Delonte. Our starting Center, Back up center and first guard off the bench.

We took Andy, who was our best off the bench Forward and made him our starting center. Clearly he has played Center before but it isn't his natural position. And then he went down for the year.

Also both Mo and AP (our starting guards) have been nagged with injuries this year and AJ is another year older.

I'm just tired of hearing the pundits claim proof of the Cavs woes that it was only Lebron here and the rest of the team were scabs. As if adding Lebron to this team we would have the league leading record.

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I am too, but at the same time, I'm happy we have the league's worst record. It is what we need in order to regain hope for our team (stocking up the youthful assets, etc).

I would really like to get involved with any possible Melo deal as a potential 3rd wheel (take on a medium contract to make the $$$ workout for them while picking up an extra 1st round pick)


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I am tired of hearing about how bad the Cavs are and this is why Lebron left. How could Cleveland expect him to win with this group. It was all Lebron. Blah, blah, blah. That is all hear on radio, tv and internet blogs.

Seriously, We also lost Shaq, Z, and Delonte. Our starting Center, Back up center and first guard off the bench.

We took Andy, who was our best off the bench Forward and made him our starting center. Clearly he has played Center before but it isn't his natural position. And then he went down for the year.

Also both Mo and AP (our starting guards) have been nagged with injuries this year and AJ is another year older.

I'm just tired of hearing the pundits claim proof of the Cavs woes that it was only Lebron here and the rest of the team were scabs. As if adding Lebron to this team we would have the league leading record.

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yup. typical bspn garbage. they just want to justify pushing him out of cleveland the last 7 years.

heard mike tirico on espn playing that card. that guy is the biggest tool in the sports media. how that guy got the mnf job is beyond me. he's the worst announcer ever. ian eagle thinks he's not a very good announcer.

i know i bag on espn, so i obviously have a bias against them, but i think they played into lebron leaving. not as much as lbj played into lbj leaving, but they were a factor. pushing him out, always making it look like he had nobody around him. the constant stories. don't get me wrong, lbj being non commital and building up to july 2010 was the main factor, but i lost a lot of respect for espn after the way they treated the situation, and then being the forum for one of the most unnecassary stunts in sports history.

i mean, what's the point of having espn ny, espn boston, espn chicago, espn los angeles? isn't it kind of redundant.

up next: espn red sox versus yankees.

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also.

thank God for all the sports leagues having networks.

i can watch nba tv for highlights of the nba and not just the heat and lakers highlights while you get a whole 5 seconds-1 highlight from a blazers/jazz game.

mlb network is also down the same path. you can see everyone's highlights and not just all things red sox and yankees. if they aren't playing each other at the moment, it's build up for when they do.

and the nhl channel, which is by far the best of any league network. you get a 3 or 4 minute package of highlights on every single game (plus you get games during the week live and hockey night in canada on saturday)

because bspn treats hockey like a novelty. even though the league is probably the most fun of the 4 major. but since there are no off the ice stories like there are in the other 3, it's not appealing to bspn. who wants to be more like cnn and less like the old days of actual sports on the field being played by the athlete.

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