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Yeah, but if someone read this board, they'd all be convinced that Rob Ryan is the love child of Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry.

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He isn't?

Are we talking about Gruden or Harbaugh?

Gruden does not live on the west coast.

The 49ers haven't hired a GM yet.

Yeah, West.

Mibad.

We forgive you. We did all have to pile on though.

Yeah, but you gotta admit, something needed to change with our offense,... At least Bradford and Shurmur won 7 games.

Just a thought... but what about Ryan? I wonder if he'll interview here too.

I thought he did a pretty good job, but I am not ready to make him the HC. But, I am selfish too. I'd like to see him remain as the DC, but my instinct is telling me that as a Mangini tribesman, he's gone.

I just wanted to pursue that a bit. I like looking at all the wrinkles. Where are we if Ryan goes, because hired out, or promoted, or whatever, Trying to see where we are with him in place, which I doubt; also if he is in charge; and finally, the unpopular option with many here. Maybe he goes too. We didn't score enough, he didn't win the tight ones, we gave up enough points to lose many more than we won, and the drivel like that can go on. MH must be considering offense mightily; and a decision about defense must be as well. Not sure where it ends up, but I like the 3-4, and I like parts of the way he runs it. With better personnel, maybe he runs it more wide open. I like the man and he got results. But I wouldn't give him a pass on this without a hard look at the caliber of his game, especially if I just fired a head coach, and most especially if I was considering him as the goner's replacement. He has expressed interest all season. Has it been reciprocated on the part of Lerner or MH?

With a decent offense, your defense doesn't have to work so damn hard either,....we need a couple of personnel upgrades, but I liked what Ryan did this year with the talent he had.

Most of the time, we didn't win because we couldn't score.

Also, the players really seemed to rally around Ryan, even though he was the DC...

jk

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Dennis Green?

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He is who we all think he is....and with that we shouldnt even interview him.

jc

I thought this was an interesting read about Carolina.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/04/panthers-unlikely-to-trade-top-pick/

They may not trade the top pick, but I'll be at least a little surprised if they take Luck. Clausen started showing a little at the end of the season. I don't really like Clausen, but they apparently did and I don't think they're ready to cast him to the side just yet.

I think they take Luck and don't look back...

I think if they pass on Luck, there will be a huge rush to trade up to no. 2. Like Ricky Williams type trades.

Which is exactly the reason there will be crazy trades.

plus with elway in the FO now...Elway, Harbaugh, Luck combo is just all to makes sense-y

Been reading all these coaching threads. Lots of names and qualifications and shortcomings and differences in opinion. I am overwhelmed. I would like to hear your priorities, preferably ranked in order of importance.
The new coach needs something different, something more. I think we need to be even tougher and more in your face than we managed. I also think an attacking vertical offense is needed. i also think more mental toughness on the field and a better gameplan on a weekly basis. I also think a HC willing to listen to and follow the Walrus closely. I am shooting for the HC response as to what we are shopping for, but some of this may also apply to the OC and DC. But whaty are the most vital, critical, crucial things to get us "there"?

I'm just going to sit and wait until the front office makes the decision. I'm tired of the process. I can have just as much fun rooting for my OU Bobcats with the same end result as what I've been seeing out of the Browns.

My best guess is that Holmgren will score big in the coaching department.

When a game plan is working I'd like a guy who doesn't abandon it.

Want a coach who can adjust the plan on the fly as well as at the half.

I want a coach who is not afraid to take a warranted risk but smart enough
to know when it's jut not the right thing at the moment.

He must know his talent and not plat LB's inside or out when they should be the exact opposite.

He must utilize time and timeouts in an error free manner.

Want a personable guy with fans and maybe, sometimes media but wants to knock the stew out of stupid players and the weekly opposition.

I fear I want want waaay too much!

It's nice to talk about characteristics and not names. Not a bad thread at all!!

I like your list except I'd replace Harbaugh with Brian Billick, and I'd eliminate the OC's and DC's. I don't want a college HC or newbie HC's. We've tried those routes enough, IMO.

Why do people want Bill Cowher? He's the last guy I would want. Well, 2nd to last. RichRod would be the last

But, my question is sincere. Why do people want this former Steelers legend?

I never understood the infatuation either. I don't want that slobbering crybaby anywhere near this team.

I like Cowher because he's an ex-Browns' player and coach, and because I liked the way his Steelers teams played the game.

Gruden is the 'sexy' choice - from the area, grew up a Browns fan, has won before, can be in your face...

Whoever they settle on, you are going to have to sell it to the fans and some of those names being thrown around do not exactly get me excited.

John Fox- I think the guy is a solid coach. Got victimized as Carolina has been punished by injuries, bad luck in drafts and their team aging. He's a model of consistency though and has extensive HC experience.

Jon Gruden- The only thing I don't like about him is his tendency to horde QBs. Most rumors swirling around is that he's not interested though.

Steve Mariucci- I've always had a soft spot for the guy. Good offensive mind that did good work in SF but had to endure Matt Millen and the Lions. Underrated I think.

Brian Billick- I hadn't even considered him until I saw his name in this thread. I think he'd be great. Aggressive, has a bit of a chip on his shoulder and when he has tools to work with is a good offensive mind (see the Vikings offense of the mid/late 90s).

At this point, I think my list would be

1. Billick
2. Gruden
3. Fox
4. Mariucci

People want someone like Cowher because he had success. Therefore, since he had success before, he MUST have success here. It doesn't matter that the players and organization are different. Simply hiring Cowher means we will win the Super Bowl.

Now, there are other fans who like how he approaches the game and his managerial skills, but I think most people like him because he won.

It's like people who have suggested we bring back players we had that are still in the league, or bring back coaches we've had in the past who were successful. People just don't realize that situations are different. Just because Marty had success here doesn't mean we'll have success again. I mean, if that argument held water, then we should try to bring back Braylon Edwards since had a good year once, therefore guaranteeing that he'll always have good years.

If people want Cowher because they feel he's the type of coach we need, so be it. Agree or disagree, that's fine. But people who want Cowher because he had success in the past are shortsighted, IMO.

My concern is that in order to make a seemless transition as possible from HC to HC we're going to need an impactful guy that is well established already in this league.......not sure who that might be at this point because in Cleveland MH is the face of the franchise and has total control. Most big name coaches want all or most of the control if they're going to start anew somewhere.

So that (I feel), will leave us with a much smaller pool of candidates. We're going to have to end up with a first time HC or someone who's been kicked around the league for a while with a bad track record but still holds some promise.

The guy we end up with will probably ... most people off because there will be so many ???? surrounding him.

At this point all we can do is hope MH doesn't f*&^@ this up.

My list is pretty short right now.

In no particular order as I'd be quite happy with both:

1. Jeff Fisher
2. Bill Cowher


That's it.

I do NOT want:
Gruden
Morninweg (sp?)
Fox
etc..

I'd be accepting of Mariucci as long as someone switches him to decaf.... watching him on NFL Network makes me want to take Thorazine shots.

Cowher - Would possibly be a good choice for the team, though not my personal favorite. He's as much as said, no f-ing way, I'm not coming to Cleveland. What can you really add to that other than, if he returns to coaching, he'll have much better options elsewhere.

Fisher - Will probably stay in Tenn. No reason to think he can produce a championship team here. He hasn't been able to do it in an "easier" division, and is embroiled a cluster-muck with his QB pick. Once upon a time he had the Steelers number, but that's gone by the wayside. In 17 years he's had 5 playoff wins, and has put together back to back mediocre seasons.

Fox - Don't know why we'd hire a guy coming off a 2-14 season, who's only claim is three playoff appearances in nine years and a loss in the SB his second year.

Gruden - No thanks. Besides the year he won a SB with a Dungy built team, he's only won two playoff games, and put together mediocre seasons the rest of the time. Has shown very little consistency as a coach, and seems to lose the respect of the players over time.

Dungy - Good choice, but don't see him returning to football to work for Holmgren.

Herm Edwards - No thanks. Mediocre is his hallmark. Two playoff wins in eight years amid six mediocre seasons. There's a reason his name hasn't been bandied about.

Billick - Interesting idea, and his five winning seasons in nine years is also interesting, given the division, but the division then isn't the division now. He's been out a long time, and has an enormous ego, once labeling himself, "The Smartest Man in Football". Don't see him coming back, don't see him coming here, and don't see him working well with our FO.

Morhinweg - May not be a bad fit here. The question hanging out there will always be, "When will he make another bonehead decision like he did against Chicago?" Would the fans and the press ever be able to let that go? Doubtful. But, he does have a decent offensive pedigree, and would be able to work well with MH & Heckert. (Strong possibility)

Mularkey - Another possibility that might not be a bad fit. He knows how to put up points, and with his recent time in Atlanta, may have become more seasoned as a coach. He knows our division, and isn't afraid to take chances offensively. (Highly likely, IMHO)

Jim Harbaugh - Probably would be my top pick, but no way in hell does he come here. Not with the San Fran, Denver & Miami jobs that will likely be available to him, at around a $6M/yr salary.

Ron Rivera - Good choice if were were looking for a defensive minded coach, but I don't think we are.

Rob Ryan - See above. Plus add the Mangini stigma. Although his hire would add fire, and help retain some much needed continuity. I'd be okay with this choice, but doubt he'll get much more than a polite interview out of respect.

Pat Shurmur - No real body of work to speak of. Even his time in Philly is suspect. His mediocre record in St. Louis among a division of weaklings certainly isn't very impressive, other than he did it with a rookie QB. May be a candidate, but don't think he'll actually land the job.

As for most other college coaches & NFL coords, who knows? They'd all be crap shoots.