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Brownoholic posted this in the last thread. http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Practices/North-127.phpNORTH Boise St. WR Austin Pettis had a nice touchdown catch in which he elevated and over Joe Lefeged and snatched the ball out of the air. San Diego St. WR Vincent Brown has been fantastic all week and today was no different. On one play Brown extended to snare a Ricky Stanzi pass over the middle. Indiana OT James Brewer had an average day. Brewer held his own physically against rushers like Jeremy Beal and Christian Ballard when they did not get proper leverage, but he got beat by a power move from Cameron Jordan inside. Looked like a right tackle, not left tackle. Wisconsin OT Gabe Carimi had another solid day. Carimi has shown great power and uses his hands well. Stonewalled Ian Williams once in one-on-one’s. Boston College OT Anthony Castonzo had another okay day, but he wasn’t great. Castonzo certainly knows how to use his hands and he is fine if he gets good leverage from the start. Had a battle with Ryan Kerrigan at one point and won. Wisconsin OG John Moffitt had another nice day. Moffitt gets good leverage but needs to work on feet a bit more. As a whole, Moffitt impressive. Pittsburgh OT Jason Pinkston was beat twice by Casey Matthews when Matthews was put through defensive end drills. Pinkston idn’t have a very good day and showed he may be more of a backup type. Michigan OG Stephen Schilling was average. Didn’t get beat quickly, but never completely stopped another player throughout practice. Colorado OT Nate Solder had his best day yet. Since players were not in full shells, most did not get very physical with him. Dominated Herzlich in the defensive end drills and looked extremely athletic. Nebraska DE Pierre Allen didn’t stand out. Allen has good lower body strength and used it in 11-on-11’s to drive Kowalski back. Iowa DT Christian Ballard had another very good day and looked powerful. Ballard has extremely quick feet and keeps them churning. Overpowered Stephen Schilling at one point and beat Pinkston on another play with a swim move. Stanford DT Sione Fua did not flash today. Fua seemed to eat up space well, but did not get penetration. Got pushed back by Brandon Fusco in one rep. California DE Cameron Jordan continues to dominate. Unstoppable. Uses a variety of moves and beat Solder, Castonzo, Pinkston, and Brewer. Purdue DE Ryan Kerrigan Got good leverage. Kerrigan beat Gabe Carimi using power and forced a hold. Gets to the edge very quickly, but sometimes goes too long. Notre Dame DT Ian Williams tried to use more pass rush moves today, but struggled. Brandon Fusco held him in check three plays in a row. John Moffitt drove him back at one point in 11-on-11’s. South Florida DT Terrell McClain did well for his first day of practice. He used a great swim move to beat Kevin Kowalski. John Moffitt got the best of him and drove him back in one-on-one’s and appeared to be in his gap in 11-on-11’s consistently. Oklahoma’s Jeremy Beal got some work at outside linebacker today and didn’t look out of place. In fact, Beal looked downright comfortable playing standing up. Michigan St. ILB Greg Jones had a ton of trouble in coverage. Not only did Jones show poor awareness when he lost a ball while running with DeMarco Murray, but he also fell down while trying to stick with Mike McNeill. Boston College OLB Mark Herzlich isn’t great in coverage but he did a solid job on Da’Rel Scott, keeping up with the smaller, speedier player. I also liked how when the ball was in the air Herzlich started flashes his hands in front of Scott’s face, which was quite heady. North Carolina CB Kendric Burney was todays star, intercepting two passes, one from Locker and one from Stanzi, but he dropped a third from Kaepernick. Colorado CB Jalil Brown isn’t even considered to be the top corner prospect out of Colorado this year but he may be the best cover guy in Mobile. Brown held his own against Titus Young today and that is no small feat. http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Practices/South-127.phpSOUTH South Alabama WR Courtney Smith made a few great catches with good body control, but he isn’t overly fast and is just very raw. Looks like a late round pick. TCU WR Jeremy Kerley didn’t do much in practice today. Kerely did some off his outstanding quickness in drills, but really wasn’t targeted much. USC WR Ronald Johnson had a very good day at practice today. "RoJo" howed off some great hands. He did drop a touchdown pass in the red zone drills, but made up for it by beating teammate Sharece Wright for a touchdown catch later. Drops his hips very well and doesn’t round off his routes. Slot guy at the next level. Miami (FL) WR Leonard Hankerson had an amazing catch tapping his feet on the sideline. However, "Hank" did have one drop in the endzone. Hankerson continued to find holes in the zone and after he caught passes would turn it upfield immediately. Really abused DeMacrus Van Dyke in the two-minute drill. Hawaii WR Greg Salas isn't flashy, but he continued to catch nearly everything. Salas had a great catch in the back corner of the end zone over Marcus Gilchrist. Baylor OG Danny Watkins continued to look strong and also looked excellent when on the move or pulling. After practice Watson was pulled aside to be coached up and run through some center drills. Watkins struggled at times but that is to be expected since it’s something new for him. Miami (FL) DE Allen Bailey stood out as much as he has all week, consistently generating a good amount of pressure. Arizona DE Brooks Reed flew by Alabama OT James Carpenter in 11-on-11’s then later used that same speed to get the best of Auburn’s Lee Ziemba. Mississippi St. DE Pernell McPhee beat Auburn’s Lee Ziemba in 11-on-11’s. Texas DE Sam Acho batted down an Andy Dalton pass inside the ten yard line during 11-on-11’s. Acho may not have the ideal physical tools you look for but after a rough start he has just found a way to make plays. As I've said all week, Acho is such an impressive young man that if he isn't playing for an NFL team he may eventually own one. Auburn ILB Josh Bynes showed some quick feet and decent closing speed, but not much past that shown. North Carolina State ILB Nate Irving had a great day of pass coverage. Broke up a pass in the end zone in the red zone drills where he leapt in the air to bat down an Andy Dalton pass. Still had some trouble shedding blocks, but looked like a starter. Miami OLB Colin McCarthy showed a nice back pedal in coverage drills and looked improved at this practice. Instincts are still a bit suspect at time and had trouble adjusting to the run game. LSU OLB Kelvin Sheppard continued to be impressive. He showed major range despite his size. Playing in the zone, he reacted very well to runs and even got behind the line of scrimmage when Greg McElroy decided to run in a red zone drill. Mississippi State ILB Chris White was in good position against the run, but was often eaten up and simply not effective. Looks like more of a late round selection. Florida S Ahmad Black has performed well all week but the focus today was on his hips. Black’s hips aren’t perfect, but he was able to turn himself in coverage with relative ease. They appear to be good enough to at least consider a move to corner. Texas CB Curtis Brown had the best day of any defensive prospect. After struggling to adjust to the ball early, Brown made some great plays. He had a great break-up against Dwayne Harris and got in front of Ronald Johnson in the end zone and nearly intercepted a ball. He looked like he finally “got it” after the week of practice and showed off his athleticism. Auburn S Zac Etheridge looked pretty good in the box, but lacks the hips to flip in coverage. Just didn’t quite match up in coverage. Clemson CB Marcus Gilchrist was fairly average today. Gave up a few plays when playing man-to-man and seemed to do better in zone. Hips looked very stiff. Clemson S DeAndre McDaniel had a very good day today. Had great closing speed on runners and receivers. Looked very good against the run game. He shed some blocks and got into the backfield a few times. Had a nice play to contain Charles Clay in red zone drill. Miami CB DeMarcus Van Dyke had another average day. Was beat by Leonard Hankerson a few times in 2 minute drill. Seemed to have some mental mistakes in coverage and could not anticipate what the receivers will do. USC CB Sharece Wright did alright. The physical ability is there, with fluid hips and a good backpedal, but Wright was often out of position which sometimes led to shaky coverage in 11-on-11’s of Trojan teammate Ronald Johnson. Wright just seemed one step too late in many instances. All that is left now is Friday’s walk-through and then on Saturday it is game time. Most scouts have already gone home but those still in Mobile were treated to gorgeous weather, a lot of talent and some high-quality football. The question now becomes whether the North squad can take what they’ve learned this week and carry it over into the game. If that happens the South will have their hands full. When the final whistle blew on this session the hay was basically in the barn for both the North and South squads, with only the walktrhough on Friday and the game on Saturday before the 2011 Senior Bowl week is officially in the books. As with the North squad, it seemed as though there were some uneven performances throughout the week of practices. Certain players would look good one day, then not so good the next. Perhaps the actual game will serve as the tie-breaker.
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How was Locker projected to go possibly #1 Overall last year.... and this year he's suddenly talked about as one of the worst QB prospects?
Is Titus Young even going to BE THERE when we pick in the second round?
CBA needs to get DONE so we can actually plan on Free Agency and the Draft...
Who's going to pass on Cam Newton due to his fathers large shadow?
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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The draft will be around no matter what.
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I'm aware of that.
But without FA, the draft is effected...
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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could influence draft strategy, though... see more teams going BPA then addressing needs in FA after the draft.
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TL, Wr's just by reading up a little on websight associated with draft and hopefully some common sense AJ Green and Julio Jones because they're the top 2 in projections but will cost alot of money. 3 Leonard Hankerson ( Miami, Fl) 4 Austin Pettis, Boise st 5 Randall Cobb, Ky 6 and the one I really want, Vincent Brown ( San Diego st. )  If they find a way to get Austin Pettis, ( or Leonard Hankerson,) ... but if they find a way to get Austin Pettis and Vincent Brown in Orange Helmuts next year,
I'LL BE GLOWING LIKE A SOUTHERN BELLE ! What's it read? Brown has been fantastic all week and today was no different ????? What else would you expect from a player who had ELEVEN 100 yd games in TWO years? Pfft! Austin Pettis ? Who wants a player who had 39 touchdowns in 4 years when you can get a guy who only had 15? sarcasm
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Here's the rosters for todays Senior Bowl at 4PM EST on The NFL Network (dammit!). I won't see it - don't get NFLN - but maybe some of you talent scouts can watch and tell us who you'll be watching, and who stood out.
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Name Position HT/WT School
95 Allen, Pierre DL 6-3 7/8 / 273 Nebraska
46 Ballard, Christian DL 6-4 1/8 / 288 Iowa
45 Beal, Jeremy DL 6-2 3/8 / 268 Oklahoma
73 Brewer, James OL 6-6 1/4 / 323 Indiana
23 Brown, Jalil DB 6-0 1/4 / 202 Colorado
80 Brown, Vincent WR 5-11 / 184 San Diego State
8 Burney, Kendric DB 5-9 / 181 North Carolina
68 Carimi, Gabe OL 6-7 1/8 / 315 Wisconsin
20 Carter, Quinton DB 6-0 5/8 / 211 Oklahoma
74 Castonzo, Anthony OL 6-7 1/8 / 305 Boston College
25 Forbath, Kai K 5-10 5/8 / 191 UCLA
40 Foster, Mason LB 6-1 1/8 / 241 Washington
92 Fua, Sione DL 6-1 3/4 / 307 Stanford
79 Fusco, Brandon OL 6-4 1/8 / 302 Slippery Rock
28 Hagg, Eric DB 6-1 3/8 / 206 Nebraska
17 Harris, Dwayne WR 5-9 7/8 / 200 East Carolina
20 Helu Jr., Roy RB 5-11 3/8 / 216 Nebraska
90 Henery, Alex P 6-1 1/8 / 178 Nebraska
44 Herzlich, Mark LB 6-3 5/8 / 250 Boston College
51 Homan, Ross LB 6-0 3/8 / 229 Ohio State
24 Hunter, Kendall RB 5-7 1/4 / 199 Oklahoma State
5 Jarrett, Jaiquawn DB 5-11 7/8 / 196 Temple
53 Jones, Greg LB 5-11 7/8 / 240 Michigan State
97 Jordan, Cameron DL 6-4 1/8 / 287 California
10 Kaepernick, Colin QB 6-4 5/8 / 225 Nevada
84 Kendricks, Lance TE 6-3 1/8 / 240 Wisconsin
91 Kerrigan, Ryan DL 6-3 7/8 / 255 Purdue
69 Kowalski, Kevin OL 6-3 1/8 / 300 Toledo
26 Lefeged, Joe DB 5-11 1/4 / 208 Rutgers
10 Locker, Jake QB 6-2 1/4 / 228 Washington
48 Marecic, Owen RB 6-0 3/8 / 246 Stanford
55 Matthews, Casey LB 6-0 3/4 / 232 Oregon
94 McClain, Terrell DL 6-3 / 310 South Florida
44 McNeill, Mike TE 6-3 3/4 / 232 Nebraska
70 Moffitt, John OL 6-4 / 314 Wisconsin
7 Murray, DeMarco RB 6-0 / 214 Oklahoma
25 Paul, Niles WR 6-0 7/8 / 225 Nebraska
1 Pettis, Austin WR 6-2 1/2 / 205 Boise State
71 Pinkston, Jason OL 6-3 3/8 / 313 Pittsburgh
8 Sanzenbacher, Dane WR 5-11 1/8 / 181 Ohio State
52 Schilling, Stephen OL 6-4 1/8 / 302 Michigan
33 Scott, Da'Rel RB 5-10 7/8 / 205 Maryland
22 Searcy, Da'Norris DB 5-10 5/8 / 216 North Carolina
7 Sherman, Richard DB 6-2 3/8 / 193 Stanford
16 Smith, Lee TE 6-5 7/8 / 269 Marshall
78 Solder, Nate OL 6-8 1/4 / 314 Colorado
12 Stanzi, Ricky QB 6-4 1/8 / 221 Iowa
96 Williams, Ian DL 6-1 3/8 / 311 Notre Dame
48 Wilson, Lawrence LB 6-0 3/4 / 225 Connecticut
2 Young, Titus WR 5-11 1/4 / 174 Boise State
54 Yount, Christian DS 6-0 / 241 UCLA
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81 Acho, Sam DL 6-1 3/4 / 257 Texas
82 Aiken, Danny DS 6-4 1/2 / 246 Virginia
18 Allen, Anthony RB 5-11 3/4 / 223 Georgia Tech
57 Bailey, Allen DL 6-3 1/4 / 278 Miami
35 Black, Ahmad DB 5-9 3/8 / 183 Florida
60 Boling, Clint OL 6-4 7/8 / 310 Georgia
3 Brown, Curtis DB 5-11 5/8 / 180 Texas
17 Bynes, Josh LB 6-1 3/8 / 239 Auburn
77 Carpenter, James OL 6-4 3/4 / 313 Alabama
9 Clay, Charles RB 6-3 1/8 / 239 Tulsa
14 Dalton, Andy QB 6-2 / 213 TCU
27 Devine, Noel RB 5-7 / 160 West Virginia
85 Dial, Preston TE 6-2 1/8 / 238 Alabama
4 Etheridge, Zac DB 5-11 1/2 / 201 Auburn
76 Gilbert, Marcus OL 6-6 1/2 / 329 Florida
12 Gilchrist, Marcus DB 5-9 7/8 / 193 Clemson
86 Hankerson, Leonard WR 6-1 5/8 / 205 Miami
17 Henry, Chas P 6-3 3/8 / 220 Florida
62 Hudson, Rodney OL 6-2 1/4 / 291 Florida State
56 Irving, Nate LB 6-1 1/4 / 242 NC State
30 Jasper, Josh K 5-10 / 173 LSU
99 Jenkins, Jarvis DL 6-3 7/8 / 309 Clemson
8 Johnson, Ronald WR 5-11 1/8 / 186 USC
84 Kerley, Jeremy WR 5-9 1/4 / 188 TCU
66 Kirkpatrick, Jake OL 6-2 1/4 / 301 TCU
20 Locke, Derrick RB 5-8 1/8 / 186 Kentucky
65 Love, DeMarcus OL 6-4 5/8 / 318 Arkansas
46 McCarthy, Colin LB 6-1 1/4 / 235 Miami
2 McDaniel, DeAndre DB 6-0 1/8 / 213 Clemson
12 McElroy, Greg QB 6-1 3/4 / 222 Alabama
90 McPhee, Pernell DL 6-2 7/8 / 274 Mississippi State
40 Miller, Von LB 6-2 5/8 / 237 Texas A&M
91 Neild, Chris DL 6-1 7/8 / 313 West Virginia
61 O'Dowd, Kristofer OL 6-4 1/4 / 303 USC
29 Patrick, Johnny DB 5-10 1/2 / 185 Louisville
7 Ponder, Christian QB 6-2 1/8 / 222 Florida State
15 Powell, Bilal RB 5-10 3/8 / 204 Louisville
42 Reed, Brooks DL 6-2 1/2 / 257 Arizona
1 Salas, Greg WR 6-2 / 210 Hawaii
28 Sanders, Jock WR 5-7 / 179 West Virginia
11 Sheppard, Kelvin LB 6-2 1/8 / 250 LSU
79 Sherrod, Derek OL 6-5 5/8 / 312 Mississippi State
6 Smith, Courtney WR 6-5 / 230 South Alabama
88 Stocker, Luke TE 6-4 7/8 / 255 Tennessee
98 Taylor, Phil DL 6-3 1/2 / 337 Baylor
53 Thornton, Cedric DL 6-3 5/8 / 299 Southern Arkansas
16 Van Dyke, DeMarcus DB 6-1 / 168 Miami
59 Watkins, Danny OL 6-3 1/2 / 312 Baylor
50 White, Chris LB 6-2 7/8 / 244 Mississippi State
45 Williams, D.J. TE 6-1 7/8 / 236 Arkansas
34 Wright, K.J. LB 6-3 1/8 / 246 Mississippi State
24 Wright, Shareece DB 5-11 / 182 USC
73 Ziemba, Lee OL 6-6 / 317 Auburn
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Proabally my final mock before combine Coaches:Mike Shurmur - Already hired so don't have to say much Jimmy Robinson - The only one who hasn't been hired yet but he makes a lot of sense. Since the offensive coordinator won't be calling plays (at least at first), this position is going to be harder to fill. However, making the switch from a wide receiver's coach to an offensive coordinator is still a big step in the right direction. The Packers run a similar offense to what the Browns will be running and Green Bay has some great, young wide receivers, even though they haven't spent a first-round pick on one. Jennings is a top 5-10 receiver and was a second-round pick. Jordy Nelson was taken in the second round and James Jones in the third round. Dick Jauron - Already hired Free Agency:James Jones - On most teams, Jones would be at least a #2 wide receiver. However, the Packers are stacked at wide receiver so that's not the case for Jones in Green Bay. Jones decides to go to the Browns where he'll see a lot more balls thrown his way. His only problem thus far in his career is lack of concentration. If he can work on that, then he could become a very, very good wide receiver. Ryan Harris - Locks down RT spot Daniel Fells - Another Shurman disciple. Has a big body and replaces Royal. Fells would be a solid signing. He had 41 receptions and 391 yards this year under Shurmur, so he'd definitely be an upgrade as the #3 TE behind Watson and Moore. Tyler Thigpen - With Delhomme gone, a quarterback is needed. Thigpen seems to be an ideal fit for the WCO and I don't think he was ever given a fair shake in Kansas City. I fully expect McCoy to be the long-term answer at quarterback for the Browns, but if not, maybe Thigpen can be. At the very least he'll be a good backup. Draft:1. Da'Quan Bowers, DE Clemson, HT: 6-4 - WT: 280  - Can be a dominating force in any style of defense. He's as good a combination of size, speed and quickness as there is at defensive end in this draft. His size is well, almost too good. I love the fact that he's a solid fit 280lbs, but there's a part of me that thinks he could play with less stiffness and more top end speed if he played slightly lighter. The added bulk and the strength with it really helps him play the run. The big negative I see on Bowers in terms of the technical parts of his game is counting too much on his physical advantage and not being more aware of his leverage. He's got a good football IQ and does a nice job breaking the play down and working to the ball. 2. Jonathan Baldwinn, WR Pittsburgh, HT: 6-5 - WT: 225  - Deep threat for us. 6'5 and runs a 4.4 forty. It's not hard to believe Baldwin will run a sub 4.4. Anyone remember Jared Cook? He was larger and ran a sub 4.5. I also will not be surprised if he runs a 4.6. These guys with long legs have incredible top end build up speed. If they get their technique right at the start line, they can run incredible 40 yard dashes that never translate to the field like Darrius Heyward-Bey. The character concerns come from him bashing the crap out of his old coaching staff and teammates at Pitt after he decided to leave for the draft, talking about how horribly the program was run, and how it would never get off the ground. However it was an emotional time, the same day the Wanny firing was sprung on the kids. They all loved him , but baldwin was frustrated with the offensive playcalling and the QB. Understandable with the QB, you really had to watch the games to realize how bad he was. He's all potential right now. If he's coachable, he can be dominant. But it's hard to be all in on him as an early 2nd round or higher WR prospect. If it is found that he has a natural blocking ability. He does have big, soft hands and he's got very dangerous potential as a possession receiver who can dissect zone-coverage to find holes and produce YAC as well as be a legit red zone target. However he does have above average body control and high pointing the ball, which boosts him above just you're normal possession guy. 3. Lawrence Guy, DT Arizona State, HT: 6-5 - WT: 300  - Pretty athletic and plays with solid leverage. Embodies what we love in Cleveland: Chases the ball, team leader, active, hard worker, good motor, good character. Can be slow to locate the ball. Needs to improve versus the run. Will have to be part of a rotation to start his NFL career. 4. Greg Romeus, DE Pittsburgh, HT: 6-6 - WT: 270  - Romeus is so interesting to me. Prior to this year he was a top 15 lock. Then he injured his back, recovered from that and then the week he came back he tore his ACL. You could essentially be getting a Trent Cole like steal in the 4th round, or you could be drafting a bust due to injuries. I love the prospect of taking a chance on him in the 4th personally. Very good athelete and has a good frame. Very solid bull rush, solid swim and push-pull moves. Does a nice job stacking blockers. Sheds reasonably well. Plays the run reasonably well 5. Kendric Burney, CB North Carolina, HT: 5-9 - WT: 181  - Good speed for the position. Very good at recognizing run and getting in position to make a play. Aggressive and feisty, likes to stick his nose out and fight to get to the ball carrier. Plays with intensity and passion for the game. Size is really a major factor in run defense, makes the effort, but simply gets outmuscled at times. Is below-average in press coverage, mostly plays off the ball, not very physical in man coverage. 6. Alex Henery, K Nebraska  - I am starting to think Phil Dawson is done here and wants to just play for a superbowl contender. Henery is one of the best kickers in NCAA history Final Roster:QB Colt McCoy, Tyler Thigpen, Jarrett Brown FB Lawrence Vickers RB Peyton Hillis, Montario Hardesty, Mike Bell WR1 James Jones, Jonathan Baldwinn, Carlton Mitchell WR2 Mohamed Massaquoi, Brian Robiskie, Joshua Cribbs, TE Benjamin Watson, Evan Moore, Daniel Fells LT Joe Thomas LG Eric Steinbach, C Alex Mack, Billy Yates RG Shawn Lavao, Floyd Womack RT Ryan Harris, Tony Pashos DE Da'Quan Bowers, Jason Trusnik NT Ahtyba Rubin, Travis Ivey, Derreck Robinson DT Lawrence Guy, Shaun Rogers, Brian Schaefering DE Greg Romeus, Marcus Benard, Jayme Mitchell OLB: Scott Fujita, Chris Gocong MLB: DQ, Eric Barton OLB: Kaluka Maiva, Blake Costanzo LCB Joe Haden, Eric Wright RCB Kendric Burney, Sheldon Brown SS T. J. Ward, Mike Adams FS Able Elam, Ray Ventrone K Alex Henery LS Ryan Pontbriand P Reggie Hodges
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Don't want to pick on you, but...
Mike Shurmur?
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Nice draft....I'd be happy with it but I think a little too liberal with slotting rookies into starting spots...
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Some thoughts from the senior bowl
I only have a few big jumpers in terms of really bolstering or growing their stock - and a few others that solidified what I had as tenuous stock that was threatening to fall from under them.
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Rodney Hudson - He solidified his stock just by showing up and measuring at what is actual interior OL size for the pro level. He boosted his stock by showing that that added bulk did little if anything to inhibit him being one of the more technically sound IOL of this draft class.
Phil Taylor - I'm not sure anyone made near the jump that he potentially made this week. If he can clear the background check during private interview with staffs, he's probably just jumped himself from 3rd round prospect to Top 10 2nd rounder at worst.
Von Miller - Short of posting a 3+ sack outing, he did everything he could have to improve his stock in this game if by nothing else than showing that he's scheme diverse. If a team doesn't snatch him up in the Top 10 as a 3-4 OLB (you can't just say that he would fit any and every 3-4 scheme, but he can fit several), I wouldn't be surprised to see a blitz-heavy 4-3 team snatch him up - Tennessee, for instance, if there isn't a QB that fits their bill. I get the feeling he's this year's equivalent to CJ Spiller... someone may well just take him figuring him to be BPA anywhere in the Top 15.
Kerrigan - He's found his niche and used it to start fueling his hype machine which he's going to need if he's going to compete with the likes of the underclassmen in this class at the top of the 4-3 DE prospect list.
Kaepernick - I'm not going to go so far as to compare him to Josh Freeman because he doesn't deserve it... but if the right QB coach gets his hands on him and has a chance to work with him for a year or so before being forced to put him on the field, I could see CK turning into a similar type of player with a parallel ceiling.
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Love - I might even venture to say that I think that Demarcus Love's stock fell a full round with this game and this week. For all the talk of his possessing the athleticism to be a pro level LOT, he was abused and his feet did him no favors playing ROT. His best position may be at LG at this point, and he's going to have to show leaps and bounds of improvement between now and the conclusion of the combine to merit anything close to the 2nd round stock he'd been getting prior to this.
Allen Bailey - It sucks to say, but I think with as tight as the competition among the defensive linemen at the top of this draft is, I think Bailey needed this game and missing it due to injury does him no favors. We all know he's going to blow up the combine, because that's what he does. He still lacks a statement game though - this could have been it.
Anthony Costanzo - He took one for the team and shifted inside to play guard with Solder playing out at tackle. That said, this is the time of year when being selfish helps. For being undersized, one of Costanzo's better selling points was that he was still an effective technical run-blocker - and the effectiveness as a whole of the BC OL last season in spite of inexperienced QB play - and playing an unfamiliar position did him no favors and really showed that that's one position he really shouldn't be playing which does - to an extent - ding his stock.
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hey.. quick question.. Anyone know much about Armon Binns of Cincinnati? He has had two 1000 yard seasons, with atleast 10 TD's in both of those seasons... He is predicted to go day 3, but most likely UDFA.. just wondering why with those kinds of stats?
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We have TWO picks in the 6th, candyman....
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Don't know much about him but i read somewhere the other day that he struggled catching the ball at the East-West Shrine Game.
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With us going to the 4-3 defense AND running the WCO, I'm doing a Tampa Bay via 2010 draft and going D-line with my first two picks. The depth at DE and DT this year is insane and you can easily get a 1st round talent with your 2nd round pick. I'd then work the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds on some skill position players on offense and/or CB, OG, OT.
If worse comes to worse and you hit on the first 2, you've got your d-line figured out for the next 5-7 years assuming we re-up Rubin.
I really wish we were staying with the 3-4 though as I would love to go Von Miller at #6 to fill one OLB spot then go DE in round 2. Since I think Von Miller is too small to play 4-3 End and his skills would be not be utilized as a 4-3 OLB, I'd probably go something like this:
Round 1: Dareus (DT), Quinn (DE), Jordan (DE) or Bowers (DE)
Round 2: Liuget (DT), Nevis (DT), Heyward (DE/DT), Watt (DE/DT), A. Smith (DE), Bailey (DE/DT), Taylor (DT), M. Wilson (LB)
Round 3: Titus Young (WR), Randall Cobb (WR), Austin Pettis (WR), Hankerson, Moffitt (OG), Gilbert (OT), Ballard (DE), Sheppard (LB), Acho (DE)
Round 4: Kerley (WR), Shorts (WR), Matthews (ILB), Sash (S), Burney (CB), D. Lewis (RB)
Round 5: Mark Dell (WR), Hagg (S), J. Brown (CB)
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This made me happy!
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i like pettis a lot. big body, seems like a "complete package" kinda player. not just a guy who will be good at just running one route. i think he would actually fit the browns quite well. i don't think he's the overall talent of green, but i think he could fit us just as nice.
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j/c,.....
--Top-- (5)
prospect ranking
DB, Patrick Peterson
[LSU]
DT, Nick Fairley
[Auburn]
DE Da'Quan Bowers [Clemson]
WR, AJ Green
[Georgia]
Von Miller
[Texas A&M]
--My targeted prospects for the Browns.
1 - 6;
WR, AJ Green [Georgia] or
DE, Cameron Jordan [CAL] or
trade down
Robert Quinn should be available, but I see his value this high at #6, more of a 34 OLB then at DE in our new 43.
WR Julio Jones will most likely be the highest rated WR on the board at # 6, but I think we could draft down possibly with Dallas at #9, if feel they need to move up to draft DL, Marcell Dareus.
2 - 37;
WRF, Torrey Smith* [Maryland] or
DT, Stephen Paea± [Oregon State] or
DT, Marvin Austin [North Carolina]
There is a good chance a WR we might like won't fall to us even Torrey Smith at #37, but there should be good value at DT on the board.
3 - 70;
LB, Mason Foster [Washington] or
LB, KJ Wright [Mississippi State] or
LB, Bruce Carter± [North Carolina] or
DT, Jarvis Jenkins [Clemson] or
CB, Curtis Brown [Texas]
I think this is a good time to draft a LB if some or any of the above mentioned prospects are on the board.
4 - 101?,
OT, James Brewer [Indiana] or
WRP, Austin Pettis [Boise State] or
RB, Kendall Hunter [Oklahoma State] or WR/RS, Jeremy Kerley [TCU]
I think this could be a pick that we look at our top prospects and see who is left on that list offensively...starting up front.
5 - 134?;
QB, Greg McElroy [Alabama] or
DE, Greg Romeus± [Pittsburgh] or
CB, Curtis Marsh [Utah State] or
FS, Deunta Williams± [North Carolina]
QB, Greg McElroy I think showed scouts at the Senior Bowl that he has what it takes to be successful at the next level and would be a good fit in a 'WC' system.
We need to have some depth behind McCoy and McElroy has a similar game. I don't think he will last until the 6th round.
6 - 163? <(From Denver);
LB, Casey Matthews [Oregon] or
OT, Chris Hairston [Clemson]
Okay this is my homer pick, but I think Casey will make a good nickel LB.
6 - 165?;
^any of the above and or
PK Josh Jasper [LSU] or
PK, Alex Henery [Nebraska]
It looks like we will be needing a new kicker and there are some good ones who will get drafted this year.
± = has been injured
*= if AJ Green is not selected in the 1st round.
DE, DT, LB, OT, QB, LB and PK.
If and when there is another FA period.
I would make WR my top priority after the Draft.
Then I would look for some veteran 43 LBers and some UDFA DB's.
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No way Casey lasts till the 6th round...
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Maybe not, but he would not have the highest value any earlier for us.
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Good Lord man, say it aint so ?  There aren't 11 rounds in the draft anymore, if the Browns draft a kicker.  I don't like Baldiwn, WR I don't like him in the 2nd the 3rd the 4th the 5th and anything more I dunno. I don't like him green eggs and ham.  not for a Browns draft pick, maybe a UDFA and see if he can play. Well I don't like him, but I like him better than my 10th 11th 12th, 12b. or 13th recevier
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The Boise State kid (regardless),...the Nebraska PK, or Jasper. I doubt we will pay to keep Dawson,...gotta think long term at some point anyway.
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Good Lord man, say it aint so ?
There aren't 11 rounds in the draft anymore, if the Browns draft a kicker.
I don't like Baldiwn, WR
I don't like him in the 2nd the 3rd the 4th the 5th and anything more I dunno.
I don't like him green eggs and ham. not for a Browns draft pick, maybe a UDFA and see if he can play.
Well I don't like him, but I like him better than my 10th 11th 12th, 12b. or 13th recevier
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There aren't 11 rounds in the draft anymore, if the Browns draft a kicker.
well, since all those 6th/7th round WRs are working out so well for us 
I see a ton of value in selecting a kicker in that range. You guarantee that he will be coming to your camp and pretty much that he will be your starter next season. How many 6th/7th round picks become that teams starter their rookie year?
That said, I hope it doesn't happen because I really like Phil (both as a player and person).
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2011 NFL Mock Draft, Version 6.0: Post-Senior Bowl Edition
30th January, 2011 - 11:39 pm
Jeff Risdon/RealGM - By Jeff Risdon
One more postseason all-star game remains, the NFLPA game in San Antonio this coming weekend. The talent pool there is hoping to lap at the bottom of mocks like this, and I’ll be there most of the week to ascertain if any are worthy.
My usual two disclaimers:
-- Do not mistake the selections here for the choices I would make. I am trying to forecast what the given team would do with the given pick, not tell you what I would do with the same pick.
-- I am more focused on matching the player with the draft slot, not necessarily the team currently in that slot. This is especially true in picks 25-50, where over half the picks get traded every year. If you think I’m intoxicated and/or asinine because I put a player with a team that you think doesn’t need him, you might be right…but it’s more about the player and draft slot. Try and pay less attention to the team aspect.
1. Carolina Panthers: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn. The Panthers need an interior force more than they need a pass rusher. Keep in mind Charles Johnson bagged 12 sacks and they have other promising young talent at DE/OLB. The only DT under contract right now for next season is Andre Neblett. The door is open for Cam Newton to “wow” them.
2. Denver Broncos: Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson. John Fox begins the massive and long-needed defensive overhaul by taking Bowers, the closest thing to Julius Peppers since Fox had him in Carolina. I think Peterson and Miller will both be highly tempting, but Bowers athleticism at his position is freakishly hard to ignore.
3. Buffalo Bills: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU. Corners almost never go in the top 5, but Peterson has the measurables and big-play ability to qualify as an exception. The Bills almost invariably go best talent available and they need impact playmakers across the board regardless of position.
4. Cincinnati Bengals: Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M. Even though Carlos Dunlap finished with a major flourish, upgrading the pass rush is a priority for Marvin Lewis & Co. Their LB play took a major decline in 2010, and Miller has emphatically shown he is more than just a pass rusher.
5. Arizona Cardinals: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn. I’ll be honest.. I actually believe Newton will go higher than this; he’s the most dynamic offensive presence to hit the draft since Michael Vick. He’s not necessarily the best QB right now, but his upside is Ben Roethslisberger's size and guts paired with Steve Young’s athleticism. The Cardinals sure seem like a strong candidate to roll the dice, even if they also court a veteran QB.
6. Cleveland Browns: A.J. Green, WR, Georgia. The Browns are acutely aware they sorely lack a playmaking threat to help Colt McCoy. Green is the complete package, and his impact on Georgia’s offense with and without him was stunning. That kind of dynamic presence is tough to ignore for a WR-desperate franchise.
7. San Francisco 49ers: Robert Quinn, LB, North Carolina. Quinn is a big risk, as he has not played since November 2009. But he’s also a big potential reward as a speedy pass rusher with a physical style, both of which will play very well with the Niners new staff.
8. Tennessee Titans: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri. It’s a foregone assumption the Titans are taking a QB here, and I won’t fight that in this edition. The coaching change could be the best thing to happen to Gabbert, who has a lot of potential but a long ways before he gets there. Less pressure to win means he won’t be rushed and can learn from Kerry Collins.
9. Dallas Cowboys: Nate Solder, T, Colorado. The first tackle comes off the board later than any year since 2005, when Jammal Brown went #13 overall. Solder is still growing into the position, as much as a 6’8”+, 314 pounder can still be growing, but his potential is higher than any other tackle and he’s not far away from achieving that potential.
10. Washington Redskins: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama. Quick, active, big, and not shy to flash a nasty streak. Sounds like Albert Haynesworth, a guy the Skins must regrettably replace. Dareus fits the bill and his heeling under Nick Saban helps mitigate some of the risk for a player that registered 3 tackles or less in 17 of his 23 college games.
11. Houston Texans: Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, Missouri. Making the switch to a 3-4 defense requires a lot of new faces, and Smith has the potential to make a big impact as an edge rusher that they’ve never had.
12. Minnesota Vikings: Anthony Castonzo, T, Boston College. Built like a professional wrestler, he’s more agile and also more versatile than their two current tackles, but could also play guard if they need him there more.
13. Detroit Lions: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska. Getting the reputation as a “safe” pick, which hasn’t always been for the best (think Aaron Curry). But the Lions need a “safe” corner, and his very high talent floor and ability to tackle will fit well in Coach Schwartz’s defense.
14. St. Louis Rams: Julio Jones, WR, Alabama. Last year they hit pay dirt with their franchise QB and very good LT. Now Sam Bradford gets a legit receiver to help him. There are concerns about Jones’ top-end speed and frequent minor injury history, but he is a great physical presence capable of taking over a game.
15. Miami Dolphins: Cameron Jordan, DE, California. Mr. Wake, meet Mr. Jordan. He will help you lead the league in sacks next year too, along with getting a handful of his own and being a general menace with his quickness. His intelligent aloofness will play well in their locker room.
16. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado. I have a feeling he will go higher than this, but Smith winds up in a place that sorely needs a physical DB presence. I’m sure they would prefer one of the above pass rushers, however.
17. New England Patriots (from OAK): Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State. Heyward has the mantra of a Patriot already--tough, smart, able to rise up when needed but confident enough to sublimate himself when it helps his teammates rise up. Of course the Patriots will not be staying here; maybe this will be the year where they actually move up and go for a premier talent instead of trading back and getting 4 merely functional pieces. They are scarily lacking in premier talent right now.
18. San Diego Chargers: Gabe Carimi, T, Wisconsin. He’s not without his detractions, but Carimi is the top run blocking tackle in this draft. His physical style and ability to lead the charge at the second level will bring a missing edge to the Chargers already potent offense.
19. New York Giants: Tyron Smith, T, USC. Smith’s draft stock is still highly variable, and perhaps no player needs a better weigh-in day at the Combine than the undersized tackle. He’s got a lot of Joe Staley in him, but there’s a lot of Tony Ugoh on display too.
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue. The Bucs know they must improve their pass rush if they want to catch the Saints and Falcons. Kerrigan is an accomplished edge rusher that lived in opposing backfields at Purdue, and his quickness gave the top Senior Bowl tackles fits.
21. Kansas City Chiefs: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor. It’s one thing when fans demand a team get bigger and tougher up the gut, but when the coach and defensive coordinator volunteer that information, you know they’re going to address it aggressively. Taylor is the top immovable object in this draft, with the potential to be as good as a motivated Shaun Rogers…who could also find his way to KC.
22. Indianapolis Colts: Rodney Hudson, C/G, Florida State. Jeff Saturday can’t play forever, and none of their guards can play anytime soon. Hudson fits the Colts profile--extremely athletic, undersized, and loaded with football IQ. His ability to play guard or center will allow him to contribute right away.
23. Philadelphia Eagles: Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA. His size (258 pounds) is what makes Ayers appealing to the Eagles, but what makes him a 1st rounder is his ability to move and play in space at his size. He’s a strong blitzer as well.
24. New Orleans Saints: JJ Watt, DE, Wisconsin. Evaluators are still trying to figure out just where he fits best in the NFL at 6’5” and 290 pounds, but the Saints have had great success using big Will Smith as a pass rushing end. Watt has some juice off the edge but his power is a refreshing changeup against a league turning towards smaller offensive tackles.
25. Seattle Seahawks: Jake Locker, QB, Washington. I’m not sold that Locker will wind up in the first round, and I’m not sold he’s a Pete Carroll kind of guy. But I like the “local” angle, and I see him more like Brady Quinn than Jimmy Clausen in terms of “once highly touted QB that plummets on draft day”. Quinn fell to this range, and I think Locker ultimately winds up in the mid-20s as well. It might as well be Seattle.
26. Baltimore Ravens: Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois. In 2009 I went to an Illinois game and was intrigued by Liuget’s ability to crash the line, but his stamina and base strength were substandard. He got himself in great shape in 2010 and was often Haloti Ngata-like in the OL-rich Big Ten. What’s better for Baltimore fans than one Nagata? How about Ngata-lite playing next to him as Kelly Gregg’s career winds down.
27. Atlanta Falcons: Danny Watkins, G, Baylor. Some will be turned off by his age (he’s 26), but his maturity and strong technique despite being inexperienced mean he’s game-ready for a contending team like the Falcons.
28. New England Patriots: Justin Houston, OLB, Georgia. Again, the odds the Pats keep this pick are about the same as me waking up next to Rachel Weisz, but he brings an added dimension of fast-twitch athleticism to a stolid young Pats defense.
29. Chicago Bears: Mike Pouncey, G/C, Florida. Mike Tice did a nice job molding an under-talented collection into a reasonably functional OL, but if the Bears are going to improve offensively, they need a legit studhorse up front. Mike’s not quite his Pro Bowl twin brother, but he’s close enough to really help Chicago.
30. New York Jets: Jarvis Jenkins, DT, Clemson. Jenkins fits the Rex Ryan profile--aggressive, pugnacious, verbose, and probably better at his job than often credited. He can play end in a 3-4 or tackle when they move to a 4-man front.
31. Green Bay Packers: Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa. The Packers have the playmakers already, but could use some talented supporting cast members. Clayborn is a solid football player and strong athlete that doesn’t need to make lots of plays to make a big impact.
32. Pittsburgh Steelers: Derek Sherrod, T, Mississippi State. His athleticism is ahead of his technique at this point, but he’s an accomplished “recovery blocker”, something that blends well with Big Ben’s QB style.
Round 2
33. New England Patriots (from CAR): Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
34. Denver Broncos: Quinton Carter, S, Oklahoma
35. Buffalo Bills: Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame
36. Cincinnati Bengals: Mikel LeShoure, RB, Illinois
37. Arizona Cardinals: Greg Jones, LB, Michigan State
38. Cleveland Browns: Demarcus Love, T, Arkansas
39. San Francisco 49ers: Titus Young, WR, Boise State
40. Tennessee Titans: Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State
41. Dallas Cowboys: Brandon Harris, CB, Miami FL
42. Washington Redskins: Stefen Wisniewski, C, Penn State
43. Houston Texans: Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple
44. Minnesota Vikings: Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
45. Detroit Lions: Martez Wilson, LB, Illinois
46. St. Louis Rams: Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
47. Denver Broncos (from MIA): DeAndre McDaniel, S, Clemson
48. Jacksonville Jaguars: Rahim Moore, S, UCLA
49. Oakland Raiders: Dontay Moch, LB, Nevada
50. San Diego Chargers: Jerrel Jernigan, WR, Troy
51. New York Giants: Luke Stocker, TE, Tennessee
52. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Curtis Brown, CB, Texas
53. Kansas City Chiefs: Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State
54. Indianapolis Colts: Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
55. Philadelphia Eagles: Ben Ijalana, T/G, Villanova
56. New Orleans Saints: Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech
57. Seattle Seahawks: Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
58. Baltimore Ravens: Davon House, CB, New Mexico State
59. Atlanta Falcons: D.J. Williams, TE, Arkansas
60. New England Patriots: Colin McCarthy, LB, Miami FL
61. Chicago Bears: Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami FL
62. San Diego Chargers (from NYJ): Jordan Todman, RB, UConn
63. Green Bay Packers: Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech
64. Pittsburgh Steelers: Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma State
Round 3
65. Carolina Panthers: Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada
66. Denver Broncos: Jabaal Sheard, OLB, Pittsburgh
67. Buffalo Bills: Kenrick Ellis, DT, Hampton
68. Cincinnati Bengals: Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh
69. Arizona Cardinals: Marcus Cannon, T/G, TCU
70. Cleveland Browns: Drake Nevis, DT, LSU
71. San Francisco 49ers: Shane Vereen, RB, California
72. Tennessee Titans: Richard Sherman, CB, Stanford
73. Dallas Cowboys: James Carpenter, T, Alabama
74. New Orleans Saints (from WAS): Brandon Burton, CB, Utah
75. Houston Texans: Orlando Franklin, G/T, Miami FL
76. New England Patriots (from MIN): Andy Dalton, QB, TCU
77. Detroit Lions: Mason Foster, LB, Washington
78. St. Louis Rams: Tandon Doss, WR, Indiana
79. Miami Dolphins: Jacquizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon State
80. Jacksonville Jaguars: Christian Ballard, DT, Iowa
81. Oakland Raiders: Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware
82. San Diego Chargers: Jeremy Beal, OLB, Oklahoma
83. New York Giants: Bruce Carter, LB, North Carolina
84. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Tyler Sash, S, Iowa
85. Kansas City Chiefs: Kelvin Sheppard, LB, LSU
86. Indianapolis Colts: Vincent Brown, WR, San Diego State
87. Philadelphia Eagles: Robert Sands, S, West Virginia
88. New Orleans Saints: Allen Bailey, DE, Miami FL
89. San Diego Chargers (from SEA): Quan Sturdivant, LB, North Carolina
90. Baltimore Ravens: John Moffitt, C/G, Wisconsin
91. Atlanta Falcons: Clint Boling, G/T, Georgia
92. New England Patriots: Jaiquawn Jarrett, S, Temple
93. Chicago Bears: Terrell McClain, DT, South Florida
94. New York Jets: Kenny Tate, S, Maryland
95. Green Bay Packers: Jason Pinkston, T, Pittsburgh
96. Pittsburgh Steelers: Kendrick Burney, CB, North Carolina
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If Rahim Moore is available in the 2nd round and we don't take him I will be upset.
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I was actually thinking something like this would happen in the 1st two rounds..
1) WR
2) RT
No need to draft O-line if they can't potentially be a starter. Drafting a RT that high should put them in a position to start right away, or just after a few games. If we pick the right guy, Colt is standing up right most of the time, and not on the ground in pain.
Free Agency may be key in getting the defensive front 7 solidified.. Not to mention, you can get a quality MLB in Casey Matthews, Nate Irving (Who I like) in the 4th/5th round area. Same goes for DE.. Someone like Greg Romeus who's injury status will drop him in the draft could be had around the 4th...
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I don't anything against Cam Newton (I just don't think he is that great of a pro prospect). But this doesn't seem like a good idea... Quote:
Cecil Newton is scheduling his son, Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Cam Newton, to have a workout in front of the media in San Diego on Feb. 10, his quarterback coach George Whitfield told ESPN.
The Auburn quarterback arrived in San Diego over the weekend and finished his fourth day of working with Whitfield on Thursday. Much of the emphasis has been on getting Newton, who had played primarily out of the shotgun formation in a spread offense in college, acclimated to working from under center and throwing in rhythm while improving his footwork. The results have "blown away" Whitfield, as well as the elder Newton.
"Cam is ready arm-wise and footwork-wise," Whitfield said Thursday night. "We've had a heckuva of regimen, but he has really made some giant strides in getting this routine from under center down. His dad is seeing that, and saying let's go public before the [NFL] Combine."
Whitfield, who last year worked with Ben Roethlisberger while the Steelers quarterback was suspended by the NFL, said the Feb. 10 workout, tentatively scheduled for Cathedral High School, will last between an hour and 90 minutes. "He'll do a lot of drops, a lot of perimeter throws, a lot of things from in the pocket -sliding and moving from pressure and a lot of things in rhythm and taking some snaps from under center, where he'll take the five and seven [-step drops.]"
In addition to working with Whitfield, Newton also has trained with a speed coach and a trainer in San Diego. "He weighed in at 250 with six percent body fat," said Whitfield. "Cam's been game for everything we've thrown at him. I'm amazed at some of the things he can do athletically."
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According to the draft above, James Carpenter and/or James Brewer may be available in the third round. Both would be good choices at RT. I don't think the quality of RT available at the top of the 2nd will be that much higher than one of these two guys.
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Would have been easier to post who you don't like. 
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If we get Nevis in the 3rd we just owned the rest of the NFL
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If Rahim Moore is available in the 2nd round and we don't take him I will be upset.
Why exactly? FS is about need #12 on our team right now. Also, if you REALLY wanted Moore there's a decent chance he'll still be available with our pick in the 3rd.
Heck I've seen more than one place have him not even in the Top 100. So maybe even our 4th round pick.
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Jauron runs a cover 2 scheme so we need a ball hawk to compliment TJ.
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Any site that doesn't have him in the top 100 is crazy.
I think he is a top 15 player, comparable to Earl Thomas.
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Jauron runs a cover 2 scheme so we need a ball hawk to compliment TJ.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, Elam was given the transition tag last year. He'd have to be re-signed anyway.
FS is definitely high on my needs. I kind of want us to just draft BPA.
My top two guys are AJ Green and this Patrick Peterson. Peterson would be great to put alongside Haden. I did read an article about Sheldon Brown saying he just wants to play (and would consider moving to safety). Eric Wright, who I believe is a FA or upcoming one, could be re-signed or let go depending on his value.
I guess I figure we should try to fill a lot of our holes in FA. May be we could get Matt Roth on the franchise tag and see how he does at DE for us. People keep talking about this need for D-Line, but I've seen us pick two D-Linemen who didn't work out. I saw us pick Joe Haden, and it worked out great. Peterson might be able to bring the same thing to the team.
I can't guarentee those D-Linemen will be good, but I can guarentee that this Peterson guy will be. He's a top-notch corner who has proved himself through his college career against good competition, just like Haden.
So yeah, my top two: Green (first choice) and Peterson (second choice). Both those guys will be very good NFL Players
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The following players have been confirmed to participate in the 4th Annual NFLPA Game, formerly known as the Texas vs Nation Game, Saturday February the 5th:
NATION
QB Enderle, Nathan – Idaho
QB Yates, TJ – North Carolina
QB Van Camp, Jeff - Florida Atlantic
RB Spann, Chad – Northern Illinois
RB Berry, Damien – Miami
RB Draughn, Shaun - UNC
FB Chapas, Shaun - Georgia
FB/RB Payne, Keith – Virginia
WR Newsome, Jamar - Central Florida
WR Holmes, Andre - Hillsdale
WR Johnson-Koulianos, Derrell - Iowa
WR Morgan, Joe - Walsh
WR Durham, Kris – Georgia
WR Spencer, Owen – North Carolina State
TE Smith, Andre – Virginia Tech
TE Hardy, Daniel – Idaho
TE Oordt, Schuylar - Northern Iowa
OT Young, DJ – Michigan State
OL Kilgore, Daniel - Appalachian State
OL Smith, Willie – East Carolina
OL King, Jarriel - South Carolina
OL Davis, Josh – Georgia
OL Porter, Curt - Jacksonville State
OC/OG Thorson, Brad – Kansas
OG Johnson, Carl – Florida
OL Hendrickson, Pete - Tulane
OL Taylor, Zane – Utah
DE Marshall, Craig - USF
DE/DT Levingston, Lazarius – LSU
DE White, Markus - Florida State
DE Nurse, Clay – Illinois
DT Kearse, Frank – Alabama A & M
DT Graves, John - Virginia Tech
DT Ajiboye, Ladi - South Carolina
DT Ellis, Kenrick - Hampton
LB Smith, DJ - Appalachian State
ILB Harvey, Mario - Marshall
OLB DE Addison, Mario – Troy
OLB Moten, Adrian - Maryland
OLB Thomas, JT – West Virginia
OLB Hunter, Jeremiha – Iowa
OLB/DE Gee, Mike – Indiana PA/Virginia Tech
CB Maxwell, Byron – Clemson
CB Cuff, Vance – Georgia
CB Brinkley, Niles – Wisconsin
CB Torrence, Devon – Ohio State
CB Gaitor, Anthony – Florida International
S Legree, Mark - Appalachian State
S Rolle, Maurice – University of Louisiana - Lafayette
DB Walters, Anthony - Delaware
DB Abdul-El Quddus, Isa – Fordham
P/K Bosher, Matt - Miami (FL)
K Rogers, Jacob – Cincinnati
KR/WR/RB Saunders, Jock – West Virginia
LS Adams, Corey – Kansas State
TEXAS
QB Potts, Taylor - Texas Tech
QB Portis, Josh – California PA/Maryland
QB Colburn, Ryan – Fresno State
RB Asiata, Matt – Utah
RB Fannin, Mario-Auburn
RB Finley, Jay – Baylor
FB/RB Hughes, Robert – Notre Dame
FB Bartlett, Justin - Carroll - MT.
WR Burton, Stephen -West Texas A&M
WR Lockett, Ricardo - Fort Valley State
WR Adams, Kris - UTEP
WR Moore, Denarius – Tennessee
WR Matthews, Chris - Kentucky
WR Harris, Marcus – Murray State
WR/KR/PR Ross, Jeremy - California
TE Housler, Robert – Florida Atlantic University
TE Graham, Cameron – Louisville
TE Skelton, Stephen - Fordham
OT Newton, Derek - Arkansas State
OG Stewart, Chris - Notre Dame
OL Turner, Trevis-Abilene Christian
OL Person, Mike-Montana State
OG Thompson, Isaiah-Houston
OL Hughes, Kevin-SE Louisiana
OC Barnes, Tim-Missouri
OL Dominguez, Ray – Arkansas
OC Kirkpatrick, Jake - TCU
OL Bell, Bryon- New Mexico State
DE Chinasa, Ugo - Oklahoma State
DE Jones, Eddie – Texas
DE Anthony, Christian – Gambling State
DE/OLB Daniels, Wayne – TCU
DT Whitlock, Colby - Texas Tech
DT Bryant, Corbin – Northwestern
DT Patterson, Lucas – Texas A & M
DT Lumpkin, Ricky – Kentucky
OLB Williams, Jabara - Stephen F. Austin
OLB Davie, Quentin – Northwestern
OLB/ DE Lattimore, Jamari- Middle Tennessee State
OLB Paysinger, Spencer - Oregon
ILB Duncan, Brian – Texas Tech
ILB Baptiste, Tressor - Texas A&M Kingsville/Hofstra
CB Jones, Ryan - Northwest Missouri State
CB McGee, Andrew - Oklahoma State
CB Rutland, Kevin – Missouri
CB Skrine, Buster - UT Chattanooga
CB Hagan, Darian - California
S Gomes, DeJon - Nebraska
S Hagg, Eric – Nebraska
DB Gatlin, Josh - North Dakota State
DB Sherman, Richard – Stanford
P Epperson, Derek - Baylor
K Weber, Thomas - Arizona State
KR/CB Rembert, Reggie - Air Force
LS Flaherty, Harry – Princeton
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sweet, that highlight video of chad spann got me all amped up. looking forward to seeing him play this weekend. Gotta set the DVR!
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sweet, that highlight video of chad spann got me all amped up. looking forward to seeing him play this weekend. Gotta set the DVR!
yea.. when I saw it I was like WOW!! So determined to get the most out of every play!
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Jauron runs a cover 2 scheme so we need a ball hawk to compliment TJ.
Completely agree with you,but Jauron also runs a 4-3. We need 3 DLinemen and 2 LB as starters (not just depth). Oh and we don't have any NFL caliber starting WR. And we only have 2 CB on our roster. And we need a RT. And we need a backup RB behind Hillis....
Can't fix everything at once when you have that many "needs". For me, in order of importance we need
1) WR x 2
2) DE43 x 2
3) OLB43
4) CB x 2
5) RT
6) RBC
7) MLB43
8) DT43
9) FS
Elam may have to work for a year. But that's JMO.
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