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curiosity got the best of me. from a personal standpoint, i'd be disappointed on draft day if it played out with Fairley going 1 spot ahead of our trade down.

and majorly disappointed if we then picked a RT.

but, if we nabbed Cam Jordan or Watt there at 10, then that wouldn't be too shabby picking up stock for next season.

apparently, the guys who did that mock though really want us to be a high scoring team that needs to keep up with the other team. RT & WR with our first 2 picks? this board would go nuts.

I would do it just because the top guys on my board (Peterson, Green, Dareus, and Miller) are gone and then i have Quinn, Jones, Fairley, Jordan all rated about the same and 1 of them is bound to be there, in this case Jordan would be my pick.

I agree that Smith shouldn't be on our radar at that point. Personally I don't think he should be on anybodies radar that high. I think he should go in the low 20's for value but it sure sounds like Dallas likes him a lot and will take him at #9 assuming Peterson is gone. and I still think they take Prince if he is available when they pick.

We might actually be in a much better spot to trade down than I initially thought ...


if Peterson and let's say Gabbert are both there ... not only do we have (potentially of course) Dallas and Washington wanting to move up .... we have 2 division rivals trying to move up to the same spot.

"Really Jerry? You want Peterson? Well washington is giving us a 2nd a 5th to come up and you don't want them to land that potential franchise QB do you...?

Hey Dan / Shanny ... Jerry just bumped the offer up to a 2nd rounder and a 2nd next year as well ... what do you got in the bank? "

Well, that would be a short argument. Washington has a 1st, 2nd, 2 5ths, a 6th, and 2 7ths. That's it.

Next year's picks also... or get cute overall .. We could take their 1st, 2nd, and both 5ths and kick back a 7th ...

the point is if we get two teams to negotiate (or even think that they are negotiating) against each other ... that makes it just *that* more important of a pick

Yeah, if we could get this and next year's two, I'd be pumped. Especially if it was Washington's and not Dallas'.

The more I think about it the more I think that Peterson is the right pick. This is now a passing league.

The Jets beat the Patriots and Colts by throwing 7 cornerbacks on the field.

The Packers won the Super Bowl with two very good corners in Tramon Williams and Charles Woodson. They allowed the Packers to play man a lot of the time.

I think we probably should take Peterson if he's there. But I also think the system Holmgren comes from says you should take care of your quarterback.

With all that said, it would be very hard to trade down if Peterson, Green, or Julio Jones are on the board. And I am usually one of the first to say trade down.

j/c
The Browns drafting Peterson is IMO like cleaning up after an Alpaca = Awesome!

The Dallas one and two would be bare minimum and I'd have to think about it.

To the casual interest draft guy like me, search out Petersons highlight reels. Its worth the effort. The one I liked best was called Peterson Arise. What a ball hawk! Very impressive. Easy to see why Jones would be after him.I had to wonder if he could play some offense too.

I have to admit I agree with your whole statement... I just arrive at a different conclusion.

I just think that if we draft peterson ... I would be pumped. BUT ... knowing that we could trade entirely hypothetically ....

let's say our first and second would be peterson and maybe a guy like Marvin Austin without trading down ...

that means we could trade down to 9th or 10th and walk away still picking up (entirely hypothetically) Robert Quinn or Cam Jordan in the first (maybe even Julio Jones?), still scooping up Marvin Austin in the second ... then coming right back with washington's or dallas' 2nd rounder and either drafting a brandon harris out of miami or rahim moore to help the secondary .. or maybe go the route of allen bailey or sam acho and (more or less) sealing the defensive line while hoping that wright/haden/brown can hold it down for just one more year?

And that's only counting netting an additional second. What if we could gamble them up to a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year?? That is definitely some flexibility to build now by sacraficing a big name guy as well as continuing to stockpile picks for the future as well!

I think if Peterson or Gabbert (and possibly Green) fall to #6 we could get really get a sweet trade package to move down 2-3 spots.

We have had a lot of discussion about trading down. Here is a question: Is there anybody that you want so badly that you would trade up to get him? If so, what would you be willing to part with to make it happen?

The only guy I might consider trading up for is Dareus but I wouldn't give much more than one of our 6th round picks. I might throw in a 7th rounder. Of course no way would that be enough to move us up.

Nah. If we stay at 6, we're going to get a really good player (perhaps even a really good DT or DE). We'd have to spend too much to move up 4-5 spots and we have lots of holes to fill. Moving up wouldn't make any sense to me at all.

This is the only reason I advocate trading down. I don't know if there is any one player that would make a significant difference over any other 1 player (except maybe AJ but we could potentially still be a solid team in the WCO with Julio).... BUT ... if we find a way to trade down and add a mid round 2nd and a later 6th (or so) ... that still puts us at 10 total picks with 3 being in the top 70 or 72.

To me that means adding in 2 DL early, a WR early and a DB (safety or legit corner) early. Those 4 would all be top 3 round picks. We could still add a quality starter in the 4th (probably a linebacker or maybe a safety or OL) while still being able to draft another RB, CB, RT, DT, DE ... the overall foundation of plugging holes would be much better to me than picking ANY top player.

I love peterson, I love green, I love dareus ... but by the time next year rolls around I don't want to still have 4 holes in the defensive front 7, a hole at corner, and still need to upgrade certain positions. By the time the 2012 draft rolls around, Steiny will be 33, Womack will be going on 34 (so hopefully Lauvao steps up), and we will still have question marks heading into the 2012 draft concerning possibly our entire linebacking core?

I would much rather load up on the developmental guys for another year, then take the big namers a season from now.

I would be extremely tempted ... especially because any ONE of those multiple second rounders could then be dealt for a first in next year's draft, especially if a team like Minnesota or whoever wants to move up and draft mallet, ponder, locker or another top QB who slips into the second round.

I only mention Minnesota because that could be an early second round pick for a top 5 to 10 or so pick in the 2012 draft .... which could definitely help us.

Well in any case ... whether it was the 17 and 33 or the 28 and 33 plus a pick later or in the 2011 .... that would give us

1 first rounder, 1 from new england in the second round, 1 from dallas in the second round, plus our second rounder. ... package a few of the 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6ths ... and two or three of those could become another mid to late round second .... I wouldn't mind a draft with a late first and 4 to 5 second rounders ....

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Not only that, but I have a feeling that the Cowpokes really want "The Prince"! If Peterson is gone, they or another team will have to deal with Us to get ahead of #7. JMHO Go Brownies!!!