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Well said [censored]. what? the board won't let me say ben stiller's first name in meet the parents?lololol

I would Sign Joey Porter in a heartbeat...backload his contract then cut him in a few years...

That's what I've been hearing on pittsburgh radio. That his production didn't eqaul his asking price. Something on the lines of his position requiring more production.

Porter would be a nice addition to the Browns. I'm sick of worrying about attitude - I want guys who can play!

Isn't one reason the Steelers let him go was there change in defensive schemes with the new head coach.

jc...

I saw Porter playing craps at the Palms on Tuesday night. He had a table reserved all to himself. Seemed like he knew what was coming and was drowning his sorrows...

I thought it was kind of jerk move to not let anyone else play at the same table too. But hey, when you have that much money, I guess you can do those kind of things...

everyone is in the chat room lol

j/c

lincoln

Porter interests Browns
Friday, March 02, 2007

Mary Kay Cabot
Plain Dealer Reporter

Steelers linebacker Joey Porter has been one of the Browns' biggest enemies, but could become a close personal friend.

Browns coach Romeo Crennel, before an autograph session at the Greater Cleveland Auto Show Thursday night, said the Browns are interested in Porter, who was released by the Steelers on Thursday in a salary-cap move.

Porter, a ninth-year pro and three-time Pro Bowler, was due to make $4 million in 2007 and a $1 million bonus early this month.


"Well, of course [we're interested]," said Crennel. "Everybody should be interested in Joey, particularly 3-4 [defensive] teams. But along with that, you also have to look at what it's going to cost for some of these guys, and Joey's coming out late [in the free-agent sweepstakes]. He's into it late, so we'll have to see how that plays out and see how he would fit with the team."

Crennel, referring to 2006 top pick Kamerion Wimbley, said, "On that right side, we do have a young player that we like quite a bit on our team right now, but we might be able to put him over there [on the left] or put Joey over there."

In the Steelers' Christmas Eve 2005 rout, Porter had three sacks and two forced fumbles in the 41-0 victory over the Browns.

This season, he was fined $10,000 for calling Kellen Winslow Jr. a derogatory gay term and in 2004 he was ejected before a game for fighting with William Green.

Porter's agents could not be reached for comment. Crennel said the Browns are not ruling out anybody right now, even running back Jamal Lewis, who was released by the Ravens.

"Everybody is on the radar screen," said Crennel. "Even though Reuben [Droughns] is on our team, and he's done a good job for us and we're not looking to replace him. We're looking for competition. We're trying to get the best players and put them on the team."

Crennel said the Browns will act quickly and could have a player or two signed by today. Top two targets are guard Eric Steinbach, who is expected to visit today, and cornerback Nate Clements.

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

mcabot@plaind.com, 216-999-4670

Well, of course [we're interested]," said Crennel. "Everybody should be interested in Joey, particularly 3-4 [defensive] teams. But along with that, you also have to look at what it's going to cost for some of these guys, and Joey's coming out late [in the free-agent sweepstakes]. He's into it late, so we'll have to see how that plays out and see how he would fit with the team."



Well everyoner I ask U ..worried about attitude?
Who BETTER to get jacked up to play Pukesburgh than Porter?

man.. this is gay..

he said the Browns are interested in ANYONE who could help the team out and fill some holes!!!

the media named certain people...

Porter.. O'Hara.. the list goes on.. the interview is on the main website.. check it out.. What is he gonna say no??!!

GAY???
Dude..WE don't talent..period..we don't have [players who punish people and are intimidators...I know you don't like him and frankly I can't stand his tude..I'm not enamored with Winlow's tude..catch my drift?
They're FOOTBALL players...

First of all, Cowher had a tough time getting this guy to shut his mouth. Do you think Crennell would do any better? He'd be a great mentor for Braylon! LOL.

Secondly, one of my buddies follows the Steelers as closely as anyone I know, and he said there was some feeling in Pittsburgh that Porter has basically hit a wall as far as production and certainly wouldn't be worth the money he wanted. My buddy also said that Wisenhunt was quoted as saying something to the same effect.

On the field, I think he'd be an upgrade over McGinnist, but I think his attitude sucks. And I'd say that even if he played for the Browns.

What is the media starting in this instance?
This is hated dispised player form a rival we can't even stand up to?
I don't blame Rac for commenting..Romeo is talking about signing a lot of free agents and he better hope they get good solid ones - because he needs all the players he can get this year. Pressure is on.... get that brotha a bucket of chicken...hez stressed out...

Has anybody taken a step back and wondered why they really hate Joey Porter? Is it because what he says is actually right (except for the gay slur obviously) and the truth hurts?

He's just a arrogant loud mouth intimidater..thats about it..trick is we don't have anyone like that..
If we did..that stuf wouldn't affect us so much..

No everyone hates him here because he has been kicking our reat for years. If he was a browns player all that BS from him would be tolerated.

Anybody who doesnt think at the right price that Porter would make the perfect book-end OLB for the 3/4 is crazy.

If having a winning team means having to have a roster full of crystal clean character guys, who everybody likes, than you people better get ready for a super bowl sometime next millenium.

Phil should check it out.

I agree!!

We should be welcoming that kind of attitude on our defense. Get them pumped up and mean!

Yup. Sorta like KW2. If he weren't a Brown a lot more peple here would hate him than we currently have.

Personally, I don't see why more people don't want Porter? Sure, the guys is a freakin [censored] but this is FOOTBALL. You want guys that rub the other team the wrong way. I know one thing, Porter wouldn't let Andra Davis half *** it and get drug 8 yards downfield. He would put his foot up his ***. I guess I don't see how that's a bad thing given the losing culture we've been cultivating since our return.

Also, don't you think that would expediate Kellen's recovery if he knew he could try and take Porter's head off every day in practice? LMAO

For the right price, I would love to have him.

If there is no extra baggage with him, count me in.

All this talk of Steelers & steroid troubles though.... not sure I would want to be bringing that mess in house. I'm sure it's already there, but you don't want to drag that spotlight to your own lockerroom.

Browns, Bengals and Dolphins among first teams in Porter hunt
Saturday, March 03, 2007

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


Teams lined up quickly by yesterday to enter the Joey Porter sweepstakes, including two of the Steelers' AFC North Division rivals.

Cincinnati and Cleveland were among those who talked to Porter's agent, Jeff Sperbeck, along with Miami and others.

"We're weighing the various levels of interest and where the terms of the contracts are," Sperbeck said yesterday.

No visits by Porter are scheduled and likely won't happen until next week "when we have it narrowed down and decide who has the most interest and the fit that's best for him," Sperbeck said.

Porter would like to top the $5 million salary he was to receive this season from the Steelers before they released him Thursday in what Kevin Colbert, their director of football operations, labeled a salary-cap move.

The Steelers cut Porter five days before he was due a $1 million roster bonus, but they paid a $1 million roster bonus to guard Alan Faneca that came due yesterday as part of his $4,375,000 salary in the final year of his contract.

And, while they were busy extending defensive end Aaron Smith's contract earlier in the week, there has been no such progress made with their All-Pro guard who has been to the past six Pro Bowls. There does not appear to be a new contract for Faneca on the horizon.

Colbert admitted releasing Porter left the Steelers thin at outside linebacker, but they did nothing as free agency began yesterday to try to fill the gap and likely won't for a while.

The Steelers planned to take their usual methodical steps in free agency, preferring to concentrate on their players and the draft rather than make a big splash into the free-agent pool.

"History will probably repeat itself," Colbert said. "There's not a lot of great players available. Even at that, you still have to let this thing settle in a little bit because there will be other players getting terminated, just as Joey was terminated."

If they do sign an outside linebacker in free agency, it would more likely be a younger player who would not cost much. They also took a big interest in the outside linebackers and defensive ends at the combine workouts in Indianapolis last week and could make one their first draft choice. New coach Mike Tomlin has not said whether the Steelers will stay with a 3-4 defense or switch to the one he has coached throughout his NFL career, the 4-3. They also could play both.

Tomlin has said the talent on the team will determine the structure of the defense.

Absent another signing or a rookie stepping in, James Harrison likely would move into Porter's job at right outside linebacker, unless Clark Haggans is switched from the left side. Harrison has played in 44 games and started eight in his three-year career.

Arnold Harrison is the only other outside linebacker on the roster with NFL experience, and he gained it briefly in his first season in 2006 with two starts before he went on the injured-reserve list Oct. 31 with a knee injury.

Starting inside linebacker James Farrior played a season on the outside with the New York Jets.

The Steelers also pretty much took themselves out of the market to sign another running back after they came to terms with Najeh Davenport on a two-year deal Thursday for $2 million. It's more likely they will draft a halfback than sign a free agent.

One of the surprise moves they did not make came when they kept punter Chris Gardocki on the roster. He is 37 years old and has a $1 million salary in 2007.

As for Porter, if his play slowed down last season, his emotions did not, and a team might value that. His leadership as part of the package, especially if he were to go to a team such as Cincinnati.

Porter, though, is suited more for a 3-4 defense, which the Bengals do not run. But they do run it in Miami and Cleveland, teams against which Porter had big games last season.

"Well, of course [we're interested]," Browns coach Romeo Crennel told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

"Everybody should be interested in Joey, particularly 3-4 teams. But along with that, you also have to look at what it's going to cost for some of these guys, and Joey's coming out late. He's into it late, so we'll have to see how that plays out and see how he would fit with the team."

The Browns started first-round 2006 draft choice Kamerion Wimbley in the spot Porter played with the Steelers.

"On that right side, we do have a young player that we like quite a bit on our team right now," Crennel said, "but we might be able to put him over there [on the left] or put Joey over there."

lincoln

It looks like Joey wants to play in the warm weather for a title contender. I doubt San Diego gives him $5million a year though.

from kffl.com
Chargers | Porter interested in team?
Sat, 3 Mar 2007 06:45:55 -0800

Mike Sullivan, of the North County Times, reports free agent LB Joey Porter (Steelers) is interested in playing for the San Diego Chargers, according to sources.

I think you might be talking off your rocker on the WInslow thing there man.

aye... to put it in perspective, it's the surgery that Courtney Brown had that had eeryone wondering if he'd even play again.

isn't it also the same surgery roman oben had before he played in the super bowl?


also.........

Browns, Bengals and Dolphins among first teams in Porter hunt
Saturday, March 03, 2007

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



Teams lined up quickly by yesterday to enter the Joey Porter sweepstakes, including two of the Steelers' AFC North Division rivals.

Cincinnati and Cleveland were among those who talked to Porter's agent, Jeff Sperbeck, along with Miami and others.

"We're weighing the various levels of interest and where the terms of the contracts are," Sperbeck said yesterday.

No visits by Porter are scheduled and likely won't happen until next week "when we have it narrowed down and decide who has the most interest and the fit that's best for him," Sperbeck said.

Porter would like to top the $5 million salary he was to receive this season from the Steelers before they released him Thursday in what Kevin Colbert, their director of football operations, labeled a salary-cap move.

The Steelers cut Porter five days before he was due a $1 million roster bonus, but they paid a $1 million roster bonus to guard Alan Faneca that came due yesterday as part of his $4,375,000 salary in the final year of his contract.

And, while they were busy extending defensive end Aaron Smith's contract earlier in the week, there has been no such progress made with their All-Pro guard who has been to the past six Pro Bowls. There does not appear to be a new contract for Faneca on the horizon.

Colbert admitted releasing Porter left the Steelers thin at outside linebacker, but they did nothing as free agency began yesterday to try to fill the gap and likely won't for a while.

The Steelers planned to take their usual methodical steps in free agency, preferring to concentrate on their players and the draft rather than make a big splash into the free-agent pool.

"History will probably repeat itself," Colbert said. "There's not a lot of great players available. Even at that, you still have to let this thing settle in a little bit because there will be other players getting terminated, just as Joey was terminated."

If they do sign an outside linebacker in free agency, it would more likely be a younger player who would not cost much. They also took a big interest in the outside linebackers and defensive ends at the combine workouts in Indianapolis last week and could make one their first draft choice. New coach Mike Tomlin has not said whether the Steelers will stay with a 3-4 defense or switch to the one he has coached throughout his NFL career, the 4-3. They also could play both.

Tomlin has said the talent on the team will determine the structure of the defense.

Absent another signing or a rookie stepping in, James Harrison likely would move into Porter's job at right outside linebacker, unless Clark Haggans is switched from the left side. Harrison has played in 44 games and started eight in his three-year career.

Arnold Harrison is the only other outside linebacker on the roster with NFL experience, and he gained it briefly in his first season in 2006 with two starts before he went on the injured-reserve list Oct. 31 with a knee injury.

Starting inside linebacker James Farrior played a season on the outside with the New York Jets.

The Steelers also pretty much took themselves out of the market to sign another running back after they came to terms with Najeh Davenport on a two-year deal Thursday for $2 million. It's more likely they will draft a halfback than sign a free agent.

One of the surprise moves they did not make came when they kept punter Chris Gardocki on the roster. He is 37 years old and has a $1 million salary in 2007.

As for Porter, if his play slowed down last season, his emotions did not, and a team might value that. His leadership as part of the package, especially if he were to go to a team such as Cincinnati.

Porter, though, is suited more for a 3-4 defense, which the Bengals do not run. But they do run it in Miami and Cleveland, teams against which Porter had big games last season.

"Well, of course [we're interested]," Browns coach Romeo Crennel told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

"Everybody should be interested in Joey, particularly 3-4 teams. But along with that, you also have to look at what it's going to cost for some of these guys, and Joey's coming out late. He's into it late, so we'll have to see how that plays out and see how he would fit with the team."

The Browns started first-round 2006 draft choice Kamerion Wimbley in the spot Porter played with the Steelers.

"On that right side, we do have a young player that we like quite a bit on our team right now," Crennel said, "but we might be able to put him over there [on the left] or put Joey over there."

Who's got more left in the tank, Porter or McGinest?

Who lights a fire under a team's ass better, Porter or McGinest?

Who wants to stick it to their former team? Porter or McGinest?

Not saying we'd release Willie outright, but I can envision several pass rush packages using Wimbley, McGinest and Porter.

We need a vocal leader on defense, someone to get you energized.

That being said, I don't think it'd be likely to get Porter and I definitely DON'T wanna give him an Adalius-like deal. But how sweet would that be? Sticking it to Pittsburgh AND Cinci?

Porter would probably be an on-the-field upgrade over McGinest at this point, but that's it. He couldn't carry McGinest's jock in any other capacity, especially in the professionalism, intelligence and maturity department.

If I have to choose between the two of them for the coming season, I choose McGinnest as his impact on the young linebackers is going to be long lasting whereas I believe Porter would be a detriment.

I disagree whoreheartedly. we've seen what willie has given us on the field. not a whole lot to be honest. I don't know what his sentimental value is as far as teaching the young guys becuase I'm not there to see it. to me it's all about production. porter was one of the true leaders on the steelers super bowl run a year ago. he called the colts out last year for being soft, he got his team believing the were the better team .we need that same type of self promoting bravado on our team. football is an emotional game.

hell if he was such a detriment to the steelers cowher would've cut him long time ago. in my opinion cowher loved porter.

well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

I look at the personality of Porter and then that of Wimbley, DQ & Leon and I can only think of Oil & Water... they couldn't be more different. the personalities of Wimbley and the other youngsters are much more in line with that of McGinnest and McGinnest is 100x the professional that Porter is.

The way I see it, Porter is just a media mouthpiece with a 'me' attitude. I'd still take him on this team as I have said (as long as there is no extra 'baggage' coming with him), but choosing between him and McGinnest, I'll take the value of McGinnest mentoring over the on-field impact of Porter for the coming season. I feel McGinnest's impact will be longer lasting and impacting more players. That has a lasting and growing impact in teaching them how to be professionals, which they then will teach to those that follow them. All I've seen that Porter has to offer is how to get a camera on him for him to talk some trash. Not the kind of leadership our young crew needs in my opinon.


p.s. While there are certainly emotions in this sport, you win and are a long-term member of this league with physicality, toughness and what is between your ears. Emotion is only situational and cannot be sustained... all those others apply at all times.

It goes far beyond production.

You have to analyze things:
Kamerion Wimbley had a tremendous rookie season and he and all the rookie linebackers have credited McGinest's knowledge in helping their grasp of the game. McGinest is very mature, focused, and intelligent.

Porter, on the other hand, has production by numbers, but he completely vanishes in big games. He talks trash when the rest of his teammates do all the work. We've all seen his production against quarterbacks, yes, but that's about it. I've seen him knocked on his fanny a few times against Droughns, Winslow, Johnson, Lewis.