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Cleveland Browns have second 'minicamp' today at Baldwin-Wallace College,
By Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer The Plain Dealer
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CLEVELAND -- Browns players are beginning their second player-organized "minicamp'' today at Baldwin-Wallace College in Berea, a league source told The Plain Dealer.
The first one, organized by quarterback Colt McCoy, was last month at the University of Texas, McCoy's alma mater. The camps are designed to prepare the players for the season despite the NFL lockout.
McCoy told The Plain Dealer last week that a second camp was coming soon, but that he wanted to keep the date and location quiet. The first one lasted about three days.
About a dozen offensive players attended "Camp Colt'' in Austin, and McCoy said he focused mainly on teaching the players the fundamentals of the Browns new West Coast offense. He received a playbook from the Browns several months ago and is well-versed in the new scheme.
The initial camp included receivers Brian Robiskie, Mohamed Massaquoi, Josh Cribbs, Jordan Norwood, running back Peyton Hillis and tight end Evan Moore.
McCoy said he contacted the Browns draft picks and invited them to the second camp. He said they were expected to attend, including receiver Greg Little and tight end Jordan Cameron. He said fullback Owen Marecic might not be able to come because he's still in classes at Stanford.
The first session included workouts, meetings, position drills and passing situations. The players also bonded in other ways, dining together and visiting a ranch.
The current camp, which is a players-only session, will probably also last about three days. Mohamed Massaquoi tweeted Monday that he was back in town, but didn't mention the camp.
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He said fullback Owen Marecic might not be able to come because he's still in classes at Stanford.
I'll bet Marecic knows that that is really where he needs to be in the long run.
Stanford degree ? Good to go. NFL ballplayer first, WITH a Stanford degree = world by the balls.
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Pat Shurmur, Cleveland Browns coach, engages crowd in Canton Published: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 10:00 AM Updated: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 11:25 AM The paint is still fresh on the artistic work done by the Cleveland Browns in the NFL Draft, and coach Pat Shurmur is still gushing about the picks and the future picks. ''I think we did great,'' Shurmur said. ''I don't care what anybody says. But we obviously started off the draft by making a historic trade, probably one of the greatest trades in draft history, when we traded with [the] Atlanta [Falcons] — our sixth pick to get to [No.] 27, eventually up to [No.] 21 — because we felt like we needed help in areas and based on the talent, based on what other teams around us were gonna do and based on what we needed, we felt like that was the perfect thing to do.'' When it comes to quarterback Colt McCoy, it sounds like Shurmur believes he's the real McCoy. ''I feel like he's got it,'' Shurmur said. ''He makes good decisions. He's an accurate thrower. He's mobile. He's got great command of the huddle. He's a leader. He's a guy that I think can be the guy to lead our organization, so I'm looking forward to getting to work with him.'' One of the best lines from the event wasn't from Shurmur, it was from a fan in the audience who thanked Shurmur for his speech, but now he wanted the truth. The crowd roared with laughter, and Shurmur's face turned bright red as he chuckled. Aside from that awkward moment, Shurmur appeared to be much more comfortable than he had been in other public appearances since being hired Jan. 13. web page
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" But we obviously started off the draft by making a historic trade, probably one of the greatest trades in draft history, "
''He makes good decisions. He's an accurate thrower. He's mobile. He's got great command of the huddle. He's a leader. He's a guy that I think can be the guy to lead our organization, "
Are you feeling a wee bit enthused coach?
We've tried sour,bland,autocratic and just plain bad coaches,whynot try enthusiastic.
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He is excited about Colt but he should be. Just a great fit for Shurmur's offense.
I tell ya though the guy is a confident coach. No excuses, no blaming Savage, Davis, Policy, Mangini or Kokopuffs. He seems to genuinely believe he is going to win a lot of football games this year. Now if he can just convince this team that they can win lol.
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''He makes good decisions. He's an accurate thrower. He's mobile. He's got great command of the huddle. He's a leader. He's a guy that I think can be the guy to lead our organization, "
Are you feeling a wee bit enthused coach?
We've tried sour,bland,autocratic and just plain bad coaches,whynot try enthusiastic.
lol, right on. 
I'm just glad he didn't say "our draft was, eh" and did the tilty hand thing.
And "Colt is pretty good, but he'll never be more than mediocre."
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May 9, 2011 Shurmur confident, comfortable as Browns wait on real work by Zac Jackson CANTON, Ohio — I think Browns fans are going to like Pat Shurmur. I think Shurmur thinks so, too. And I think that's a good thing. The Browns' new head coach spoke Monday at the Hall of Fame Luncheon Club in Canton, a place that loves its football. With the NFL still officially closed for business, there wasn't much he could say in the way of specifics. But Shurmur was comfortable, much more so than he was in limited public appearances in his first couple months on the job. And he was engaging. And he didn't go the route of past Browns coaches in hinting that he was going to reinvent anything or be a whole lot smarter than the last guy(s) who had his office. Shurmur's never been a head coach before, but he seems to know what the Browns mean in these parts. And he seems to know he'll be popular right up until the Browns lose a game. That's the business, and he's been a lifer. Past Browns coaches have failed for many reasons; popularity isn't high on that list. The Browns have had too much change, made too many draft-day mistakes, lacked more than their share in the way of good luck and a lot in the way of good players. Because of the lockout, Shurmur is yet to actually coach a player. But the Browns added a bunch they hope will be good in the draft a little over 10 days ago and positioned themselves to add even more good players with two first-round picks next year. Shurmur started his address Monday by saying the Browns made a "historic trade, one that will probably one of the greatest trades in draft history." That would qualify as an attention-grabber. The Browns already have more than enough sales guys on the payroll. They need someone to give them something legitimate to sell. That's why Randy Lerner writes those really big checks to Mike Holmgren, which led the Browns to Tom Heckert, who made sure Shurmur was the choice as the team's new head coach. Shurmur said he and his staff have been busy, even with no players to coach. They're studying opponents and getting to know each other. He voluntarily talked up the assistants he kept on from the Mangini Regime. The rest of the staff has a heavy Holmgren influence, a heavy West-Coast offense influence and the influence of guys who have coached against Shurmur in the past. "We didn't have to get to know each other," Shurmur said. "We didn't have to decide what practice was going to look like or what our team was going to look like." He let on that the players they'll be coaching are better than the rest of the league thinks they are, and that he's not afraid to play a bunch of rookies if they earn their jobs. For the first time in a long time, it feels like the Browns have a plan they're planning to stick with. "The systems we are teaching are proven," Shurmur said. "They have won multiple Super Bowls." Some of the rest of what Shurmur was selling Monday… **He's quick to list what he loves about Colt McCoy, repeating that McCoy is probably the Browns player he knows best because of the time they spent together in the 2010 pre-draft process when Shurmur was with the Rams. **He's going to call his own plays, which means he's going to answer his own questions on late Sunday afternoons and Monday mornings when they don't work. He knows if McCoy works, everything will work. He said he believes the passing game is the best way to score enough points to win in today's NFL, but he noted that successful West Coast systems often rank high in rushing stats and that the Browns have Peyton Hillis "and a pretty good run-blocking offensive line." **He hinted that the Browns will be active in free agency — whenever it begins. "We know who we want," he said, "I just can't talk about it quite yet." **He seems to "get" Cleveland — and Canton, and parts in between. He raved about the insiders tour of the Pro Football Hall of Fame he got before his speech. He called football the greatest game in the world and says he loves it here because "football is more than a sport, more than a game. I understand the responsibility and I think we're setting things up the right way." The hope, of course, is that he's right. And that two years from now no one will worry about Shurmur's lack of head-coaching experience, Holmgren's shadow or McCoy's growing pains. The plan includes the Browns being a playoff team, one Shurmur guides and one that thrives in those proven systems. Shurmur said what he said Monday like he means it. Maybe he does. For now, let's believe him. He is undefeated. So far, he hasn't even screwed up a play call in practice. Eventually, the Browns are going to get back to work. Next year, Heckert and Shurmur will have a chance to really make that trade one of the greatest in history. For now, all Shurmur can do is sell it as such. And all Browns fans can do is buy in. web page
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Couple good quotes in there that I love ... especially concerning free agency. At least we aren't hearing some sort of "we think we are going to be ok without FA this year..." crap ...
I really do believe that Shurmur likes McCoy though. He's got a very young kid with a great history to bring into HIS version of an offense ... but while the kid is extremely young and raw ... he has also stood up and gotten just a wee bit of experience against some of the best in the league. Colt is only a year into his career, and who would really have thought a year ago at this time that we would have a West Coast offense with Colt McCoy heading it up. AND that he has already logged *starts* against The Patriots, Ravens, Jets, and Steelers ... and Also on the road against Pittsburgh, New Orleans, and Cincy?
Not bad for a rookie audition ...
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If I could give one piece of advice to Mr Shurmur it is to take chances on offense, and go for the touchdown rather than punt or fg, and wait on your defense to make a stop and get the ball back.
I think we've seen enough of the fg, or punting and waiting for the defense who never gets the ball back over the last 4 years, to last a decade!
If they're going to lose, lose going for the big play, we can live with that, we haven't seen that in a while.
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Or the kneel down beyond icing last series.
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And don't kick an 18-yd field goal. That should almost NEVER be on a stat line unless it gives you a win.
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Colt received a playbook several months ago.... I'd be keeping that info private.
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They've already been fined for it.
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They've already been fined for it.
They are appealing it too, and think that they will win. They asked the league if they could provide him with on, then were fined. I think whoever told them it was ok was wrong.
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They've already been fined for it.
They are appealing it too, and think that they will win. They asked the league if they could provide him with on, then were fined. I think whoever told them it was ok was wrong.
Well, if they were wrong, I have doubts that a fine will stick.. But what the hell do I know. This whole thing is just crazy.
What I do know is this, I'm lovin that some of the guys are getting together on thier own to do what they can with what they got. There seems to be a mentality among the players (at least some of them) that getting in some work is the route to go.
I applaud them.
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Holding those workouts and getting everyone together shows just what kind of leader McCoy is. I think he has made a tremendous impression on Shurmur. Sounds like he had already made an impression on him during the predraft scouting ventures.
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My only worry remains to be colt's arm strength. I rewatched the 2nd cincy and Balt games yesterday and he was throwing some pretty limp passes. Hopefully it was just his shoulder left over from the injury and hopefully that shoulder is better like he said.
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I agree. He appeared to have dead arm pretty much since the game in which he injured his ankle. I dont think he had anything left after that.
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Hasn't he admitted this? He said something like his shoulder injury from college and ankle injury sapped all his arm strength.
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Agreed. Sell a ticket to me just to watch the practice and hang out NEAR these leaders. Getting frustrated waiting to see who wins this financial derby. Black eye for The Game. 
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Yes, he has admitted this was a problem last season. Remember, he wasn't expected to see the field last year at all,,,
Also, I think I'm right about this, but a WCO doesn't require a guy with a rocker launcher for an arm?
He's smart, accurate, mobile and a leader, isn't that the defination of a WCO QB?
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he doesn't need a rocket-launcher, but his arm needs to be strong enough to keep a defense honest.
last year raised some doubts on that. we will see if it was really an injury or if it's just who he is this season (or whenever we get to play again). hopefully, it was just a nagging injury for him.
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Also, we have to remember that rookie seasons are tough from a physical standpoint. These guys never have time off between their college season, the combine, the draft, and minicamps, then right on into the season.
Colt may have just hit a wall.
Now, maybe he will never have the arm strength. We'll see about that. But I'd rather have an accurate guy who can't throw the ball 70 yards than a guy like Kyle Boller who could wing the ball far but couldn't do jack squat otherwise.
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I find it interesting that they are holding these work outs at BW. For those that dont know, BW is literally within shouting distance of Browns headquarters,and i do mean that literally. Finnie STadium and surrounding lots is where you park for camp and walk down to the Browns facilities about a 5 minute walk down Beech Street.
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you aren't suggesting that coaches would look out their window and observe the practice, are you? they are just looking at the pretty flowers and the squirrels playing.
just because they happen to drop a few notes that their dog-walker picks up and that dog walker accidentally drops said notes (before they can return them to the coach) near the field doesn't mean anything. really.
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Also, Jordan Cameron is at the camp while Greg Little is not.
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did Cameron Jordan also get an invite by mistake 
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you aren't suggesting that coaches would look out their window and observe the practice, are you? they are just looking at the pretty flowers and the squirrels playing.
just because they happen to drop a few notes that their dog-walker picks up and that dog walker accidentally drops said notes (before they can return them to the coach) near the field doesn't mean anything. really.
given the location of the two facilities, no, they can't look out the windows and watch the guys practice. 
But if Mike, Pat and some of the coaches decided to take a walk, you know, just to stretch thier legs, they could probably walk down Beach street and maybe decide to just walk aroundthe BW Campus,, You know,, just to kinda stay in shape. they might get a glimpse of the guys..... 
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I totally missed that,, where did you get that info?
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Never mind, I found the info: Quote:
Jake Delhomme joins Colt McCoy at Cleveland Browns players-only workout
Published: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 6:58 PM Updated: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 7:00 PM
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Joshua Gunter / The Plain DealerJake Delhomme joined Colt McCoy in helping the Browns' offensive skill players get some work in learning the new West Coast offense on Wednesday at Baldwin-Wallace.
BEREA, Ohio -- Quarterback Jake Delhomme and rookie tight end Jordan Cameron were among the new faces at the Browns' second player-organized minicamp being held this week at Baldwin-Wallace College in Berea.
Rookie receiver Greg Little was invited but was unable to attend. Rookie fullback Owen Marecic was also believed to still be in classes at Stanford and unable to participate.
Many of the other players in attendance also were on hand for the first installment of "Camp Colt," as Josh Cribbs dubbed it. That session was held last month at the University of Texas, McCoy's alma mater.
Working out on the field at Finnie Stadium in T-shirts and shorts on Wednesday were McCoy, receivers Brian Robiskie, Mohamed Massaquoi and Carlton Mitchell and tight ends Evan Moore and Ben Watson.
McCoy said recently that Moore and Watson will be great mentors for Cameron, who played only full season at the position at USC. McCoy and Delhomme threw passes to the receivers, and the players also did position drills.
Inside, they worked out in the weight room, had meetings and watched film. McCoy has had a playbook for several months and said after the first camp that the primary goal is to get the players acclimated to the new West Coast offense.
It's uncertain if the Browns will conduct a camp at Kent State, something Golden Flashes alum Cribbs was hoping for. KSU director of football operations Casey Wolf said Wednesday that the school is fully prepared to host if and when the Browns players choose to train there.
So far, McCoy has chosen to keep the camp low-key and has declined interview requests.
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Meh, I wouldn't read into it too much. He probably has school related stuff as well.
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I kid you not, I read that as Coach Delhomme.
sounds funny, but i am actually thrilled to have jake there. for something so unorganized, it is huge to have jake there. i mean its like having SOME kind of coach there. its colts team obviously, and jake knows that. i bet he is having some fun
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This is just nuts. I really wish we had business as usual and knew who was FA, who was draft, who was UDFA and what time did camp start.
It's boggling to me that people cannot divide the pie
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This speaks (of unrepeatably vulgar) volumes,....?
It's not reported WHY he was unable to attend. I wouldn't think too much into it. . .
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It's not reported WHY he was unable to attend. I wouldn't think too much into it. . .
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I'll bet Marecic knows that that is really where he needs to be in the long run.
Stanford degree ? Good to go. NFL ballplayer first, WITH a Stanford degree = world by the balls.
You go Owen. Get here when you can,...
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In all honesty though .... Marecic is probably close to graduation. He strikes me as the kind of kid who will get his degree, even if he has to take a few off-season classes to do so.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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