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This weirdo's threatening to kill himself if his benefits are cut. He's obviously got problems, but where do you draw the line when deciding who to provide a living for? Do we pay anyone that says they'll kill themselves?
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Senator questions benefits to ‘adult baby’

Coburn sees possible fraud

A key senator has asked the Social Security Administration to investigate how people who live their lives role-playing as “adult babies” are able to get taxpayer-funded disability payments — after one of them was featured on a recent reality TV episode wearing diapers, feeding from a bottle and using an adult-sized crib he built.

Sen. Tom Coburn, Oklahoma Republican and the Senate’s top waste-watcher, asked the agency’s inspector general to look into 30-year-old Stanley Thornton Jr. and his roommate, Sandra Dias, who acts as his “mother,” saying it’s not clear why they are collecting Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits instead of working.

“Given that Mr. Thornton is able to determine what is appropriate attire and actions in public, drive himself to complete errands, design and custom-make baby furniture to support a 350-pound adult and run an Internet support group, it is possible that he has been improperly collecting disability benefits for a period of time,” Mr. Coburn wrote in a letter Monday to Inspector General Patrick P. O'Carroll Jr.

The request comes at a time when members of Congress are struggling to cut budgets and weed out waste to try to bring down the staggering deficit, and comes just days after Social Security’s trustees released a grim assessment of the program’s long-term financial health.

SSI is run by Social Security and pays out benefits to aged, blind and disabled people who have little or no income.

The inspector general’s office didn’t return a message seeking comment.

In an email response to The Washington Times, Mr. Thornton threatened to kill himself if his Social Security payments are taken away, and said the television episode showing him doing woodwork oversold his abilities.

“You wanna test how damn serious I am about leaving this world, screw with my check that pays for this apartment and food. Try it. See how serious I am. I don’t care,” the California man said. “I have no problem killing myself. Take away the last thing keeping me here, and see what happens. Next time you see me on the news, it will be me in a body bag.”

Mr. Thornton was featured in early May on National Geographic Channel’s “Taboo” program along with Miss Dias, a former nurse who feeds him a bottle and otherwise attends to his needs when he is dressed in diapers.

In the episode, he shows off the adult-sized crib he built and sleeps in, and the cameras follow him to the hardware store where he buys wood for his latest do-it-yourself project — an elevated high chair that is capable of holding his ample frame.

He said he has been living at least a partial adult baby lifestyle since his teenage years, though he does wear adult clothes when he goes out, fearing embarrassment otherwise.

Mr. Coburn said Mr. Thornton “is cognizant that his choice to live as an adult baby violates social norms,” though, and through both his projects and the adult baby support website he runs, www.bedwettingabdl.com, he appears to have the skills to hold down a job. That, the lawmaker said, should make him ineligible for disability payments.

Mr. Coburn also questions why Miss Dias, as a former nurse, collects SSI benefits, “since she is able to provide childcare” to Mr. Thornton.

In an extensive biography on his web page, Mr. Thornton says he worked as a security guard for a year and a half but said trauma stemming from childhood abuse, combined with other mental problems, made it impossible for him to hold the job, and he has been receiving SSI payments for most of the last 10 years.

In his email to The Times, Mr. Thornton said he is not capable of working. He said running the website only takes four hours a month, and he said his craftsman skills were overstated by the program, which showed him working on his adult-sized high chair.

“What you saw on camera being drilled was pre-assembled the day before. All I did was drill six holes for the camera,” he said.


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In an email response to The Washington Times, Mr. Thornton threatened to kill himself if his Social Security payments are taken away




Take them away!


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I'd say to either go ahead and either call his bluff, or start cutting me checks for thousands a month so I don't off myself.

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What this jack doesn't understand is this: It's abuse like his that makes others fume and want to cut the program. The abuse is rampant.

Too many looking for a free ride. And the people paying for it are sick of it. And if getting his s.s. check is all that's keeping him alive - I say take it away. I have $50 the guy doesn't kill himself - and actually goes out and finds a job. But, the "free ride" is easier.

He's smart enough to dress normally when he goes out so as not to get embarrassed? No more checks.

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I saw this guy on that show, whatever it was, one night. Dude looked like a big baby, no joke. He wore a diaper, slept in a crib, played with baby toys, and sat in a high chair while his "mother" fed him baby food.

It was seriously whacked. What kind of grown man would prefer to be treated like a baby. Definitely a weirdo.







His "mother" has some grotesquely big dirty pillows.....


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I could only watch about 1 minute, extremely disturbing.

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It's a complete scam,...as long as he "acts" like he is mentally disturbed, he is then by SSI definition, "disabled;" and then, "entitled" to those benefits.

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There was a time when somebody like that would be institutionalized.

I think it is time for that to happen again.

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It's a complete scam,...as long as he "acts" like he is mentally disturbed, he is then by SSI definition, "disabled;" and then, "entitled" to those benefits.

Build it, and they will come.




I got news for you. This guy is the exception to the rule. Getting SSI for a mental disability is very tough and is easy to lose. Most mental disability claims are denied. Sure some people can cheat the system but it takes years to do it.


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Why? He can go to a hardware store and buy the materials necessary to construct furniture, and he can construct and maintain a website. He's certainly not mentally infirm. Take away his meal ticket and watch him either be forced to get a real job or make good on his threat to kill himself. My money is on the former.

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He can contact a tv show and sign a contract and be on it.
Stop giving this nut case our money.


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It's a complete scam,...as long as he "acts" like he is mentally disturbed, he is then by SSI definition, "disabled;" and then, "entitled" to those benefits.

Build it, and they will come.




I got news for you. This guy is the exception to the rule. Getting SSI for a mental disability is very tough and is easy to lose. Most mental disability claims are denied. Sure some people can cheat the system but it takes years to do it.




It takes a while to get it, but it's not easy to lose as long as you stay linked with a CMHC and keep your follow up appointments. Given what we know, this guy doesn't meet requirements for any disability.


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This and that other story where the guy wins the lottery and keeps getting welfare ... me off. My wife and I are working and struggling and yet we have these jokers playing the system. What I'm also peeved about is that I was on SSI before for a legitimate reason, and yet 10 years later the come to me and force me to pay back $4000 of it that they said I was overpaid. And still, we have these jokers gaming the system. They need to be found out for the frauds that they are and be forced to pay back every single dime of the money back.


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There was a time when somebody like that would be institutionalized.

I think it is time for that to happen again.




True.....but then again it is cheaper to pay the SSI then it is to house him in a state mental institution.

Maybe we should just mail him a body bag with his last check??


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“You wanna test how damn serious I am about leaving this world, screw with my check that pays for this apartment and food. Try it. See how serious I am. I don’t care,” the California man said. “I have no problem killing myself. Take away the last thing keeping me here, and see what happens. Next time you see me on the news, it will be me in a body bag.”




And this is a threat to me how, exactly?

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Agree,...my tax bill goes down as a result. (Well, it SHOULD, but it won't -- we'll just call it a reduction of the National Debt)

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Not to mention eliminating the risk of him breeding ...

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There doesn't seem to be. It's really sad. These social programs were meant to be a help to those who fall on hard times... I get that.. I bet the most hardnosed Tea Party person would agree that there are folks that really need our help and that we should give it. Willingly.

But damn it, when I see things like this and the story about the guy that won 2 million bucks in some kinda lottery type game and while not welfare, giving money to other countries, I go nuts..

Why in the hell should my tax dollars take care of any of them..

I wonder what our countries financial picture would look like if we get this guy, the guy that won a couple of million and everyone that cheats the system, off the public dole?

My guess, they'd find a way to survive that doesn't require our tax dollars to be spent. AND, we'd save the country Billions. Probably enough to turn things around here overtime.


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Seems to me they should revamp the show titled, "The Biggest Loser", and drop the format for weight and have them profile people who are sucking from the governments teat. Then at the end of the show, allow the viewers to decide whether they get to continue receiving SSI.


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But who cares what this guy is collecting, when big oil is making huge profits tax free, his collections are small potatoes.

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You wanna test how damn serious I am about leaving this world, screw with my check that pays for this apartment and food. Try it. See how serious I am.




Yes, I want to see how serious you are . I want you and the drain you put on your fellow man to cease to exist .

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Maybe we should just mail him a body bag with his last check??




Ha ha ha ha....that would be a big body bag and cleanup too. Might just be cheaper to keep paying.


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But who cares what this guy is collecting, when big oil is making huge profits tax free, his collections are small potatoes.

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