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You don't think he would get them all championship crowns and introduce them as the new kings of the nba, do ya? 
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"I might not get rings," the Mavs' billionaire owner told NBATV. "Rings are old school. You've seen it before: There's guys who pick up the sweats and towels and they have these big, blingy rings. I'm like, 'Rings are done. It's time to take it to the next level.'"
The players are going to want rings. There is nothing you can buy them, cars, houses, etc that they can't buy for themselves.. they want the ring, that is the universal symbol..
As for the towel boys and whatnot, sure they probably don't need a giant ring so get them something more practical... like a car.
It is really cool that he is paying for the parade though.
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Hard lessons to be sure, but will this motivate him to work harder in his life all year every day to achieve his dream? Or will he continue down the same dead end road?
He doesn't need to work harder or get better, (I mean it's not a hole in his skills or his game that needs work) he needs to fix whats between his ears if he wants to transcend being a great basketball player into being one of THE great basketball players. His skills in the finals are the same as his skills in the first 3 rounds but his ppg average is about 8 or 9 points lower.. it's not because of his skills, its because in the regular season and the playoffs he takes the shot and drives the lane and in the finals he passes the ball... who knows why.
It's all one in the same to me, you can have all the skills in the world and still not be successful in reaching your goals if your head is not wear it needs to be.
It's never been a lack of abilities that have held him back from being a champion. I know he doesn't have or hasn't had the foundation <base> in his life to handle and work threw his failures in life. He has brought this on himself and it's going to take more then himself and his God complex to steer his way down the path to reach his goals. Dan Gilbert said it better then I can.
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A WWF title belt would be awesome. I wouldn't care either way. The ring itself doesn't mean as much as the actual job of finishing the championship anyway. I mean when I won my men's league championship last week, we didn't even get a friggin t shirt. Nothing. But beating that punk team was all i needed. Seriously this team we beat we comparable to the heat. It was a big LOL afterwards.
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Some great images pouring in... Nbr1 Nbr2 Nbr3 Nbr4 Nbr5 <- 2nd best Nbr6 <- THE BEST!
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Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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maybe i'm just a nerd, but that's my favorite
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as was said above, the biggest mystery in all of this is where is 2005-2008 LeBron? where is the guy who made sure the Wizards didn't knock us out, beat the Pistons, kept 2 games close against the Spurs when we should have gotten blown out 4 straight times. gave the Celtics all they could handle in 2008 (game7 was epic and he outdid Pierce...PJ friggin Brown). He gave the Magic all they could handle and we were a Delonte West rebound away from winning that one.
I don't know where that guy is, but hopefully he is gone. It was great seeing the Mavs win last night.
This isn't a big mystery, and I'm not sure why people think it is.
It's much easier to perform when you're not supposed to win anyway. It's much easier to step up and be a hero when if it doesn't work out, you're not supposed to win. The Cavs weren't supposed to beat the Pistons, they weren't supposed to beat the Spurs. If LeBron fails, he wouldn't have gotten blamed anyway so go down with no bullets in the gun. The Cavs were supposed to beat the Celtics last year and they were supposed to beat the Mavs. It's a different pressure when you're the favorite and when you're the underdog. When LeBron has the most to lose is when he tightens up and gets petrified. When win or lose he'll still get praised is when he is relaxed and plays aggressive.
By the way, Cowherd, who is a blowhard and diehard LeBron supporter, just ripped him a new one. Much of it is saving face for himself, but it was pretty entertaining. He's acting all surprised that LeBron tightened up last night ... as if there weren't any signs of that coming. What an idiot.
As for Bosh, I'll give him this. While completely overrated and somewhat of a baby, that guy faced the music with the media all series, all season, and gave honest answers. He faced the media alone while his partners in crime had to come to the podium holding hands (does anyone quite understand this? ... cause I don't). Bosh seems like a stand up dude. Not sure he'd be good for the Cavs, but he seems like a stand up dude. He'll never be the first or second best player on a championship team, but he could be a nice piece.
some support for this argument. LeBron has faced an elimination game in the playoffs 8 times. he is 2-6.
but, he has NEVER won a playoff series where he has faced an elimination game (Celtics W in '08 game6, then lost game7. Magic W in '09 game5, then lost game6)
if you back LeBron up against the wall, then he has never fought his way out. I didn't realize that until today.
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i think on top of the celtics last year and mavs this year, you could add the magic in 2009. The Cavs should have won that series and were favored to do so.
And honestly, the same thing happened in game 1 of that series that happened in game 2 of the Dallas one. Remember the Cavs were up 15-20 on Orlando, and they stormed back and stole the game?
Honestly if you have a great great player, you should never blow a lead like that. All you really need is a few plays to demoralize a team that is scratching to get back. I guess you could say that was the beginning of the end, even if the next game out lebron hit that ridiculous shot.
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Completely changed the momentum early in that series.
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Remember the Cavs were up 15-20 on Orlando, and they stormed back and stole the game?
Completely changed the momentum early in that series.
that and I think it took away the bit of swagger that those guys had. They were really rolling along until that game. 2 straight sweeps, 66 regular season wins. After that it was an uphill battle.
Even afterward it seemed like they never had it again. The rest of that Orlando series was ugly. The following year they beat the pants off of a mediocre Bulls team, and followed it up by losing the Boston series. Which they barely won the first game, blew the second game. alone stands game 3 which if you remember, was boston's worst home playoff lost in HISTORY, and we all know what happened after that.
Can say the same for Lebron this year. Crappy Philly team, old decrepid Celtics team, mediocre Bulls team that played about as well as they could have, only to run into a team that was up for a fight.
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Can say the same for Lebron this year. Crappy Philly team, old decrepid Celtics team, mediocre Bulls team that played about as well as they could have, only to run into a team that was up for a fight.
And they only beat that celtics team after breaking their PG's arm.
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LeBron is taking an absolute beating in the press today. It's unlike anything I have ever seen. No one seems to be coming to his aid. It is a complete tear down of a guy. It's so bad that I actually feel a little bad for him. Granted, he brought it on himself ... no doubt about it ... but he is just being destroyed right now.
When a player makes the "decision" he puts himself in the limelight.. When a Superstar player makes the "Decision" on national TV for one full hour, he becomes the light that everyone watches.
Lebron did this to himself. he set himself up and then didn't perform in the clutch. LBJ used to take control of games.. he didn't or couldn't do that in Miami,, not sure why that is, but it was pretty evident. Is he injured?
Anyway, he's getting trashed today because he deserves it. not for leaving cleveland. not for shunning the fans that supported him, not for being sneaky about it. But because of the WAY he did it.
And because of his comments after the game last night.
He basically said to everyone out there,, stuff it, I got mine and you little people still have to deal with your little lives.. (paraphrasing how I took it)
That's why he deserves it and he did it all to himself..
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I thought he stopped himself from saying basically "well you guys all have to get up and go to work at mcdonald's in the morning, while i will wake up in my mansion and roll around in a room full of gold coins and hundred dollar bills"
problem is he stopped himself from going that far but it was so obvious he was going there.
he honestly made no sense because he kinda cut himself off.
the other thing i wanted to get out, was i am tired of hearing about how it's all good for the heat, because they were ahead of schedule anyway.
maybe if you said yeah they'll lose the finals when the season started, but when they were up 15 with 7 minutes away from being up 2-0, that all went out the window. they celebrated and then obviously spun outta control.
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LeBron is the most self centered out of touch athlete I have ever come across.
The guy has never matured.
He clearly forgets where he comes from.
It wasn't long ago he was living a "miserable" life is South Akron.
Just remember you meet the same people on the way up as you do on the way down.
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jc Ooops Wrong team: Miami paper runs ad touting Heat victory in Finals MIAMI (AP) -- The Dallas Mavericks' win over the Heat is a huge upset for fans in Miami. Making matters worse, an ad in the local paper has mistakenly congratulated the Heat on winning. A full-page ad that ran in Monday's Miami Herald reads "Congratulations Miami" next to photos of Heat championship T-shirts and hats from Macy's. One T-shirt reads "Heat 2011 NBA Finals Champions" and the ad shows the Heat's logo on a hat with the words "NBA Champions." The ad ran under a story about the Heat's loss. The newspaper has issued a correction and apologized for any inconvenience. A Macy's spokeswoman called it an unfortunate error and apologized to Heat fans. The Mavericks beat the Heat 105-95 in game six of the NBA finals on Sunday in Miami. web page
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Well Cleveland fans are creating a stir around the country with our celebration of his defeat. I just read a tweet where this imbecile thinks we are crazy and will scare off any would be suitors in coming here to play, because of our small act of redemption for the "decision". Now it's all our faults a former son fell on his face...oh brother!
The truth is that outsiders will never understand our passion for our Cleveland sports franchises.
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first of all, i've heard bspn play that card before, some of their talking heads said stuff along the lines of "well now nobody is gonna want to go there" after stuff like gilbert's letter, and dec 2, etc..
never mind that they constantly painted the city in a bad light, always put it down when lebron was in cleveland. people aren't going there anyway. so why act like they will? if anything else, this whole thing shows the passion. some day, some great player will want to go there and be the guy to end that curse. think about how that would look for a "legacy" i did what lebron james couldn't do.
the other thing is, if the money is right, an athlete will go and play anywhere.
brian windhorst said on RBS months ago, that the attitude towards dan gilbert only goes so far. the night after the decision and gilbert's letter, rockets guard kyle lowry was on twitter saying how the letter was wrong and so on. not long after that he signed an offer sheet with the rockets (which was later matched, but honestly, he probably thought there was some chance that he'd sign that sheet and houston wouldn't match, so it wasn't him using cleveland really)
big time free agents probably won't come. but you can build through your draft, and make small signings, and hope you can land a star via trade.
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Speaking of the draft (I don't follow basketball like I do with Collage football).
We have the 1st and 4th picks in the upcoming draft.
How much help can we expect to add to the team with this years pool?
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I would almost not be surprised to see the Cavaliers take Williams at #1, then Kanter at #4. (If he's still there)
Grabbing a couple of high end bigs in this draft wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen to this team.
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Speaking of the draft (I don't follow basketball like I do with Collage football).
We have the 1st and 4th picks in the upcoming draft.
How much help can we expect to add to the team with this years pool?
pretty good help.
there's no superstar top 5, top 10 player by the look of it, but kyrie irving can be a franchise point guard. and you hope with #4, which can go many ways, that you can get another starter.
there's no instant all-star kinda guy right away. but there is some potential in these guys, i think especially with a few of the overseas group. and it's a wonderful feeling to know that dan gilbert and chris grant have put a lot of resources into that very department
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So would you say that Kyrie Irving is a shoe-in with our 1st pick? And who would be the best center?
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So would you say that Kyrie Irving is a shoe-in with our 1st pick? And who would be the best center?
kyrie irving is 99% gonna be picked first. I think i have read one guy who had the cavs taking derrick williams. it'll be irving. no way does byron scott not get his guy. I think he solidified his job in cleveland for a long time when the cavs got that pick.
i can't really comment on who the best center is, because there isn't a whole lot of tape on these guys. topdawg can probably tell you more about kanter than i can. i hear really really good things. there's a lithuanian kid that play too.
the cavs also have that trade exemption which they could use to land a player and/or get themselves another pick/move up
i think draft week for cavs fans is gonna be fun. it has been an afterthought for us for quite some time but now, just like we all do with the nfl draft, there will be excitement because the cavs have a chance to take a big step forward.
i feel really good with the people we have in place. They're gonna do it right this time. I think the whole organization learned from their mistakes early on with lebron all the way to his departure. We will do this right.
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The other thing is, when Dan Gilbert got into the league, he was compared to Mark Cuban. Self-made guy who has a thirst for winning. It's not just about the bottom line. Those guys truly want to win. I know Gilbert doesn't have quite the money Cuban has (Cuban is more than double in net worth) but you get my drift.
Cuban did it with one superstar who really wasn't even considered a top 5. He got a bunch of castoffs and has beens to come together and play like a team, and he did it with a guy who really flew under the radar. I have always been a big fan of Rick Carlisle's. He had that Detroit team ready to win that championship before he was canned for Larry Brown the year before. He's a solid solid coach.
I think the way that team was put together should bring hope to cavs fans. I still think the NBA is headed toward super teams even if a superteam failed miserably in the final.
Dallas laid the blueprint though. And don't think Dan Gilbert didn't take notice. I think they already have a pretty good coach in place, a few support pieces, some young talent.
With ownership + management + strong fanbase, I think they have a shot.
If nothing else the decision brought the fans and organization closer together. they were THIRD in the league in attendance. Yes, some of those tickets were bought before lebron left, but they outdrew miami on several nights this year. You have to be impressed.
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I agree with you and really coming into the finals almost everyone crowned the Heat.... really Miami should have won the series but LBJ laid an egg... if he would have played even close to how he played in the Chicago series then they would have won....
glad for Dallas though... I really like Cuban and am glad he got his title... hopefully Gilbert can bring one to Cleveland soon
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“At the end of the day, all the people that was rooting on me to fail – at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today,” James said. “They have the same personal problems they had today … Lebron James
So do you, Lebron. No rings.
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Z was a standout player and citizen of NE Ohio. He embraced the city like only a handful of pro athletes have. He earned the right to chase a title.
You are in the minority for laughing at Z 
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