Or we're not going to break the bank, we're going to only bring in people who can truly help, not just the big names, and we're going to build through the draft.
Quote: Like a kid in the candy store, some of these teams are going to go all out and be broke before the signing period is finished and with less bidders we could be sitting in the cat seat.
...bird... cat-bird seat...
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
Is there such a thing as a cat-bird, or is that the seat that the cat sits in while watching the bird? Questions like this really bother me.
Haven't seen anything on Roth signing anywhere. I know the prevailing opinion is that he won't help much in a 4-3, but right now he is one of our better players on D.
Quote: Like a kid in the candy store, some of these teams are going to go all out and be broke before the signing period is finished and with less bidders we could be sitting in the cat seat.
...bird... cat-bird seat...
I stand corrected
There are a hand full of teams with lots of money under the cap (like TB) and I haven't heard from their camp yet either, so I expect that the news wire will be lighting up sooner than later.
I honestly don't expect any big moves - the combination of:
1.) new cap, 2.) long term deals (can spread bonuses over 5 seasons) 3.) reduced rookie deals 4.) minimum spending rules
mean that a lot of teams are spending like mad on some pretty marginal talent. This makes sense if you think you are a player or two away -- but the browns aren't.
We should pick up some cheap mid level guys, and in a year or two, we'll have a lot of cap room to spend when everybody else is against the wall.
Still, I'd like to get an RT and a WR to help groom our young QB.
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Judging by some of Heckert's statements, I've tempered my excitement. Just getting anxious seeing other teams making moves and not a word from the Browns.
Hopefully Holmgren and Heckert have something up their sleeve.
I imagine a good part of our cap will go to giving some of our guys long term deals (JT) but I also think we'll grab one of the bigger name FA's (Ray Edwards is my guess) and then some average veterans for depth
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
We should pick up some cheap mid level guys, and in a year or two, we'll have a lot of cap room to spend when everybody else is against the wall.
All teams must spend a minimum, but imo those mid level players you get from FA usually are over paid for what return you get from them and your turn over is too frequent.
It's true we are not a few players away from being a consistently dominant team, but we could do with a shot of real talent and this year might be the year to do just that, because there are so many young players available. More so then in typical years I think.
I'm not saying we should change our philosophy on FA, but we can make some exceptions.
I agree. If we could land a guy like Scrabbles (I like typing that so much better than his name, since I can't spell it), a guy who would be a known talent who is just reaching his prime, I'd be for it.
But I don't want to pay big money for an FA just because he used to be good and/or well-known.
Spend big money when it's going to get you something, not just because you've got it sitting around.
I agree with everything you said except for one thing.
Quote: If we could land a guy like Scrabbles (I like typing that so much better than his name, since I can't spell it), a guy who would be a known talent who is just reaching his prime, I'd be for it.
Asomugha just turned thirty years old. So he has been in his prime for a couple of years now. Signing a thirty-year-old to a long term deal for a poo ton of money doesn't seem very wise for a team that is rebuilding.
Quote: I imagine a good part of our cap will go to giving some of our guys long term deals (JT) but I also think we'll grab one of the bigger name FA's (Ray Edwards is my guess) and then some average veterans for depth
presD2... ...DE Ray Edwards would be a great addition and it makes a lot sense to take care of some of our guys, like JT, for the long term.
I know he bombed in Dallas, but I assume he's ganna come somewhat cheap (having bombed in Dallas) and i've heard he's great when it comes to short intermidiate routes, aka, the WCO...
Just checkin.
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
Roy Williams? He couldn't do anything in an explosive Cowboys offense and he's going to go to Cleveland and produce. I don't think so. And to top it off he's a knucklehead. I'd much rather let our young guys play and see what happens than give Williams a shot.
Quote: a young Donovan McNabb with a Magic Johnson smile.. lol.
Nice Highlights.. He has a heck of an arm.. even on the run.
I thought we were going to draft Brown last year. His lack of experience is I think the single biggest reason why he didn't end up getting drafted.
He had an outstanding pro-day and most experts thought he would go to us in the Draft, because of how the FO really seemed to be genuinely interested. (Drafting Colt was probably why we did not draft Brown)
We know that he went on to sign with the 9ers, as an UDFA (later to be cut in Sept.) in part because we signed Wallace and Delhomme, but also because we drafted Colt McCoy.
When Heckert got the chance to add a QB to the roster he snagged him up.
Even though he only got to start one year he showed his abilities enough to show that he has the tools to play at this level. His stats were not so telling, although he did have a 63% completion % and ran for 450 yards. To go with a strong quick arm. Oh yeah he has some good quick's too running a 4.54 40:
I think Jarrett Brown showed high character by fulfilling his commitment to WV even though he knew Pat White (Who?) was their starter.
He showed high football IQ at his pro-day and was prepared for whatever the scouts tried to do to him defensively. He had a better workout then many other drafted QB's of last years class.
Brown has a lot to learn about the pro game, but I think he could be a diamond in the rough.
Maybe EA Sports can use that to make contracts and salary caps realistic in Madden this year... Ya know, so everyone doesn't start out with 50 mil in cap space...
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Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
Anybody know if Deunta Williams is still a free agent? I haven't seen anything.
Guy was supposed to be a 2nd rounder this year and went un-drafted and still hasn't been picked up as far as I know. His broken leg must have been a pretty serious issue if that's the case.
Quote: Roy Williams? He couldn't do anything in an explosive Cowboys offense and he's going to go to Cleveland and produce. I don't think so. And to top it off he's a knucklehead. I'd much rather let our young guys play and see what happens than give Williams a shot.
Completely different offense. He did well in WCO in Det with Joey Harrington and John Kitna throwing to him.
That being said, Breaston would be my preference - good route runner, good slot guy, would be a perfect fit IMHO.
steve smith is coming off microfracture surgery and apparently not even the standard type but a new-fangled crazy version and his doctors don't even know how well he will recover.
Quote: Completely different offense. He did well in WCO in Det with Joey Harrington and John Kitna throwing to him.
Williams last above-average NFL season was 2007 when he had 838 yards and 5 TD's. His most successful season came when Mike Martz was the offensive coordinator. I don't think Martz runs the West Coast Offense. So Williams is a knucklehead whose last good season was four years ago and he's now thirty-years-old. I wouldn't touch him.
You're right. I was thinking back to the first years of Joey being in a WCO. I think that died with Sherm Lewis in 04 or 05, can't recall which was Mooch's last year. As such, that means his best years were in the more down the field offense of Martz. I'll blame it on all the 85+ hour weeks lately.
Quote: the guy that stands out of that list is Steinbach. 49.5? For what? Not saying at 20 mil i wouldnt hold onto him, but 49.5?
theres a reason J.Thomas goes to the pro bowl every year, 1. He dosent have to worry about picking up the left guard responcibilities 2. Eric is solid 3. Remember the O-line in the Butch Davis years.... 4. We have one of the Best O-lines in the NFL (Center to the left) we need some work on the right. 5. Stieny has been worth every penny of what we payed him...i'd do it again.
I'd spend a large portion of my cap money on O-lineman and Def. Lineman...It all starts in the trenches...
Looks good, but I'm not sure he'd be able to do that kinda stuff in the Pros... Must be the case with all NFL teams.. they passed on him in the draft... Gotta ask why?
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